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Date: 05 Oct 2006 08:27:24
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: TPC at River's Bend Report
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Misc thoughts in no particular order:
I knew what kind of course I was going to find the instant I turned
into the driveway. Immediately to the left of the entrance was a pond
with a fountain and waterfalls. Man made and contrived.
It was a typical housing development type course. If you missed the
fairway by more than 10-15 yards you were OB.
The facilities were excellent. A huge driving range, large putting
green, and very nice short game practice area. (Though one gripe
about the driving range -- they had Pinnacle rock hard range balls.
That's one thing that drives me nuts about ranges in general. The
balls are like rocks.)
The course would be very difficult to walk. It is not particularly
hilly but the distances between some of the greens and tees were
extremely long. Expecially from 9 to 10 at the turn past the
clubhouse.
The landing areas on the driving holes were extremly hard. Drives and
punch outs would land hard, take big bounces, and run a long way.
However, once you got within about 30 yards of the greens the ground
was very soft and it was next to impossibly to run shots or bounce
shots onto the greens. There were lots of large collection areas
around the greens though we weren't in them much because of the
softness around the greens themselves.
It seemed like the course, one hole in particular, was designed to
encourage slow play. I'm not kidding. The #2 handicap hole, that has
OB on one side and a lateral on the other, then a lateral all around
the front and left of the green. The dumbest thing about this hole
was, in order to get over the greenside lateral and onto the green,
you have to cross a bridge that is about 80 yards IN FRONT of the
green. So, when you are done, you have to walk BACK up the fairway
and across the bridge. Talk about slowing things down. Insanity.
Here's the hole. You can see the bridge in the front of the green.
http://tinyurl.com/jkzas
It was a nice course to play and I played well. Shot an 88 (ESC 87)
with a few three putts and a few brain-dead double bogeys.
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jvdp
Myke Plough-in-skee is not mentioned in this thread.
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com/files/OH_2006_make_a_putt.avi
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 09:54:26
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: TPC at River's Bend Report
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> Tex
Buttercup, I've never known anyone named Tex that wasn't a fudge packer.
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 06:05:01
From: Tex
Subject: Re: TPC at River's Bend Report
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Miss Anne Thrope wrote:
> John, reports about the consistency of your bowel movements would be
> more interesting than this report of yours.
For an ass lover like yourself, I can understand your viewpoint.
Tex
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 08:38:20
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: TPC at River's Bend Report
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John, reports about the consistency of your bowel movements would be
more interesting than this report of yours.
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 04:32:37
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: TPC at River's Bend Report
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On 5-Oct-2006, John van der Pflum <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com > wrote:
> The landing areas on the driving holes were extremly hard. Drives and
> punch outs would land hard, take big bounces, and run a long way.
> However, once you got within about 30 yards of the greens the ground
> was very soft and it was next to impossibly to run shots or bounce
> shots onto the greens. There were lots of large collection areas
> around the greens though we weren't in them much because of the
> softness around the greens themselves.
I hate that crap! overly watered around the greens or was it the design?
If they are going to keep things fast it should be the whole course.
And what's up with the #1 hcp hole being #1? That's just wrong!
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bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 07:13:17
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: TPC at River's Bend Report
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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:32:37 GMT, "bill-o" <assimilate@borg.org > wrote:
>I hate that crap! overly watered around the greens or was it the design?
>If they are going to keep things fast it should be the whole course.
>And what's up with the #1 hcp hole being #1? That's just wrong!
A #1 handicap hole should be the hole which scratch players play much
better than bogey players. I wonder if bogey players tend to fail
to clear the sand bunker, or whether the dog leg is the problem.
The #1 handicap hole should be relatively easy for scratch players.
I noticed that it's the #3 handicap hole for the ladies.
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 10:47:45
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: TPC at River's Bend Report
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 07:13:17 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:
>On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:32:37 GMT, "bill-o" <assimilate@borg.org> wrote:
>
>>I hate that crap! overly watered around the greens or was it the design?
>>If they are going to keep things fast it should be the whole course.
>>And what's up with the #1 hcp hole being #1? That's just wrong!
>
>A #1 handicap hole should be the hole which scratch players play much
>better than bogey players. I wonder if bogey players tend to fail
>to clear the sand bunker, or whether the dog leg is the problem.
>
>The #1 handicap hole should be relatively easy for scratch players.
>
>I noticed that it's the #3 handicap hole for the ladies.
I hit a three wood off that tee and didn't have a problem with the
second shot. I think I hit a 5 iron. The hole really isn't all that
hard.
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jvdp
Myke Plough-in-skee is not mentioned in this thread.
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com/files/OH_2006_make_a_putt.avi
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 08:00:40
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: TPC at River's Bend Report
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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 04:32:37 GMT, "bill-o" <assimilate@borg.org > wrote:
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>On 5-Oct-2006, John van der Pflum <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> wrote:
>
>> The landing areas on the driving holes were extremly hard. Drives and
>> punch outs would land hard, take big bounces, and run a long way.
>> However, once you got within about 30 yards of the greens the ground
>> was very soft and it was next to impossibly to run shots or bounce
>> shots onto the greens. There were lots of large collection areas
>> around the greens though we weren't in them much because of the
>> softness around the greens themselves.
>
>I hate that crap! overly watered around the greens or was it the design?
>If they are going to keep things fast it should be the whole course.
>And what's up with the #1 hcp hole being #1? That's just wrong!
I don't know whether it was the design or just watering around the
green. There was some moisture around a few of the greens when we
played (late in the afternoon and there hadn't been any rain) so I
suspect it was the latter.
We kind of thought the same thing. To be honest, I don't know why
that hole was so hard. #15 should be the #1 handicap, IMHO.
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jvdp
Myke Plough-in-skee is not mentioned in this thread.
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com/files/OH_2006_make_a_putt.avi
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 05 Oct 2006 21:58:42
From: warren montgomery
Subject: Re: TPC at River's Bend Report
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"John van der Pflum" <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com > wrote in message
news:alt9i2lmdndj2a16ug5n2e9qa4pnkodhnd@4ax.com...
> Misc thoughts in no particular order:
>
> I knew what kind of course I was going to find the instant I turned
> into the driveway. Immediately to the left of the entrance was a pond
> with a fountain and waterfalls. Man made and contrived.
>
Hmm, Man made, contrived, unwalkable, lots of houses and OB, and a design
that encourages slow play. Looking at the web site I guess this must be a
private club. Not sure why I'd want to join. Like I said, it's fun to play
these kinds of places every once in a while, and always fun to get a chance
to play a course the tour plays, but I have a lot more fun (and can afford a
lot more golf) on those small town natural courses that someone just carved
out of some forested hills (or better yet some beachside dunes).
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Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
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Date: 05 Oct 2006 20:35:37
From: long&left
Subject: Re: TPC at River's Bend Report
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warren montgomery wrote:
(snip)
> Hmm, Man made, contrived, unwalkable, lots of houses and OB, and a design
> that encourages slow play. Looking at the web site I guess this must be a
> private club. Not sure why I'd want to join.
same reason all of us belong to private clubs...to be able to hit in to
those slow SOB's in front of you and have an attorney in your foursome :)
Dave
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