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Date: 24 Oct 2006 17:30:30
From: Ben.
Subject: TOUR Championship: To spot for ABC or to photograph??
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OK,
So the original plan was to go over to the TOUR Championship with a
colleague from Atlanta for the practice rounds on Tuesday/Wednesday so
I could test out the 70-200 VR lens. So that would be really cool.
Had no intentions of staying for the tooniment - I like practice rounds
much better than the actual competitive rounds.
Well, tonight my colleague called me and his uncle has asked him and
another person to be spotters for ABC for the event.
The description of the duties are as follows:
SPOTTER=E2=80=99S GUIDELINES
As a spotter you are a vital part of the production/presentation of the
golf tournament to the viewing public (TV Audience). The information
provided by you is used to feed the Broadcast Commentators. Therefore,
it is important not to get distracted by other issues or activities
going on around you during your assignment. Also, remember you are
representing ABC Sports during the performance of your assignment, and
anything you say or do reflects directly back to ABC Sports.
While following your assigned group or pairing, you have the ability to
perform those duties =E2=80=9Cwithin the ropes=E2=80=9D (within the boundar=
ies of
the course layout) as necessary. This means you can cross the fairway
to get to the other side; move up and down either side of the
fairway/rough; and follow down the actual fairway in appropriate
instances (ie: bridge crossings, or performing distance tabulations).
However, if your assignment does not require it, you are advised to
stay out of the way of the players, use proper golf etiquette in
maintaining silence, stay out of their line of sight (don=E2=80=99t be a
distraction), which includes avoiding their peripheral vision while
preparing to hit their ball on the course. Do not initiate contact or
conversation with the players, or their caddies, unless you have been
specifically asked to do so on behalf of ABC Sports (this will be
unusual and rare). [do not request player autographs while actively
working for ABC Sports =E2=80=93 wait until you have completed your
assignment, and are not wearing your headsets and =E2=80=9Cinside the
ropes=E2=80=9D pass]
During the round you might not be asked for any information; may be
asked to provide information =E2=80=9Conly when requested=E2=80=9D; or you =
may be
instructed to provide the information on a continuous basis. This
generally is based on how well your player(s) are scoring, but it may
be due to player =E2=80=9Cname recognition=E2=80=9D (such as Tiger Woods, D=
avis
Love III, or Ernie Els) regardless of how they are scoring.
You need to be prepared at all times to respond with the information
requested. The type of information you normally will provide is as
follows:
=EF=83=98 Begin the day=E2=80=99s coverage by making note of what distingui=
shing
clothing (color of shirt, or pants, or cap/visor) each of your players
is wearing. (this allows you to readily pick them out at a distance).
=EF=83=98 If you are catching up to your group already on the course, make
note of what their current score is through the last completed hole.
(after that, you need to keep your own record of scoring for the
remainder of the round)
=EF=83=98 At the earliest opportunity, note which player has =E2=80=9Chonor=
s=E2=80=9D on
the tee. (you need to keep up with this throughout the remainder of the
day).
=EF=83=98 At the time your players are hitting from the tee, you should be
ahead of them in, or near, the =E2=80=9Clanding zone=E2=80=9D for that shot=
. (This
applies to second and/or approach shots as well.) You will need to know
the hitting order for the next shot.
=EF=83=98 At the greens, you need to know the hitting/putting order, as well
as what stroke each player is preparing to make [ie: 3rd or 4th shot
(if off the green); or putting for eagle/birdie/par/bogie as may be
appropriate] an example of providing the information would be:
=E2=80=9CWoods for birdie on 11th green=E2=80=9D.
=EF=83=98 Once you have obtained the information needed at the green, move
far enough from the players to allow clearly speaking into your
microphone without being heard by them. (don=E2=80=99t take the chance of
disturbing the players, or not being clearly understood on the radio.
However, stay in position to still see the green, to determine
continued putting order and scores.)
=EF=83=98 As soon as you determine the scores from the green, move ahead as
quickly as possible to reach the =E2=80=9Clanding zone=E2=80=9D of the next=
hole,
and be prepared to provide tee hitting order.
=EF=83=98 REPEAT ABOVE STEPS (3RD thru 7TH) FOR ENTIRE ROUND.
This is simple stuff. Don=E2=80=99t be intimidated by it. Just stay alert a=
nd
enjoy your day on the course. These guys are good !
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This seems like a pretty cool deal, though OTOH, I really want to get
some photos. Perhaps take the camera and shoot after the rounds at the
range or in the clubhouse...thoughts?
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 19:20:28
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: TOUR Championship: To spot for ABC or to photograph??
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David Sneddon wrote:
> > Hey Ben, Salma Hayek called, and she wants me to come over and give
> > her some hot monkey love, but I'm watching the ball game. What do you
> > think I should do?
>
> Do her from behind and you can watch the game at the same time.
>
> Next question.......
I could do her between pitches.
-Annika ---- > built for speed
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 15:46:35
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: TOUR Championship: To spot for ABC or to photograph??
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On Oct 25, 9:44 pm, multi <m...@asm.org > wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2006 17:30:30 -0700, "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >thoughts?Here's my thought: it sounds like a cool thing to do one time, and I
> wouldn't blame anyone for crowing about it. But to pretend you're
> asking for our advice is just pathetic.
>
> Hey Ben, Salma Hayek called, and she wants me to come over and give
> her some hot monkey love, but I'm watching the ball game. What do you
> think I should do?
I think you should stay on the bench, Meat. You don't have the back
for that.
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Date: 25 Oct 2006 19:44:00
From: multi
Subject: Re: TOUR Championship: To spot for ABC or to photograph??
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On 24 Oct 2006 17:30:30 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:
>thoughts?
Here's my thought: it sounds like a cool thing to do one time, and I
wouldn't blame anyone for crowing about it. But to pretend you're
asking for our advice is just pathetic.
Hey Ben, Salma Hayek called, and she wants me to come over and give
her some hot monkey love, but I'm watching the ball game. What do you
think I should do?
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 08:16:14
From: David Sneddon
Subject: Re: TOUR Championship: To spot for ABC or to photograph??
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multi wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2006 17:30:30 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>thoughts?
>
>
> Here's my thought: it sounds like a cool thing to do one time, and I
> wouldn't blame anyone for crowing about it. But to pretend you're
> asking for our advice is just pathetic.
>
> Hey Ben, Salma Hayek called, and she wants me to come over and give
> her some hot monkey love, but I'm watching the ball game. What do you
> think I should do?
Do her from behind and you can watch the game at the same time.
Next question.......
David
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Date: 25 Oct 2006 06:18:52
From: Weekendshooter
Subject: Re: TOUR Championship: To spot for ABC or to photograph??
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Hello Ben,
Ben. wrote:
> OK,
>
> So the original plan was to go over to the TOUR Championship with a
> colleague from Atlanta for the practice rounds on Tuesday/Wednesday so
> I could test out the 70-200 VR lens. So that would be really cool.
> Had no intentions of staying for the tooniment - I like practice rounds
> much better than the actual competitive rounds.
> <snip>
> This seems like a pretty cool deal, though OTOH, I really want to get
> some photos. Perhaps take the camera and shoot after the rounds at the
> range or in the clubhouse...thoughts?
I think you're in a win-win deal. Take pictures during the practice
round, and work the tournament.
Being a spotter sounds similar (not exactly the same work but similar
conduct) as when we did the Flying Squad job and hole shalls during
the TOUR Championships in Houston...
An inside the ropes job is pretty neat. The "duty cycle" is sporadic
(periods of lull and suddenly, you need to be on the ball). What was
tough when working with the players (protecting them from mobs,
guarding their wayward balls, etc.) was judging just how much eye
contact to make with the players -- Some really didn't mind a friendly
smile or two (i.e. Nick Price, Lehman & Elkington) and some clearly had
them laser beam stares.
Regarding the camera, I say if you've a job to do *during the
tournament*, packing along a huge camera would be tacky/impractical.
Running back and forth to the car for your rig would be a hassle too
and therefore simply suggest a pocket camera for the days you're
working.
Working a tournament does make for long days and doubt I'd want to do
it for a living. Not sure what kind of stamina you've got but I'd do
it... It provides a nice perspective of the game and something to
chat about years down the road.
Best!
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Date: 25 Oct 2006 16:19:04
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: TOUR Championship: To spot for ABC or to photograph??
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Kenn Smith wrote:
> If you're only working one group you will only be tied up for 4 - 4 1/2
> hours out of about a 10 hour day. You could stash your camera in the
> ABC engineering or production trailer, do your thing, and still have a
> lot of hours to shoot.
Fraid not. He wouldn't be allowed to shoot without the proper
credentials.
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Date: 25 Oct 2006 11:05:45
From: Kenn Smith
Subject: Re: TOUR Championship: To spot for ABC or to photograph??
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If you're only working one group you will only be tied up for 4 - 4 1/2
hours out of about a 10 hour day. You could stash your camera in the
ABC engineering or production trailer, do your thing, and still have a
lot of hours to shoot.
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Date: 25 Oct 2006 06:01:05
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: TOUR Championship: To spot for ABC or to photograph??
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Ben. wrote:
>
> This seems like a pretty cool deal, though OTOH, I really want to get
> some photos. Perhaps take the camera and shoot after the rounds at the
> range or in the clubhouse...thoughts?
Don't worry about the photos. I got that covered.
See if you can score me a PHOTO badge and I'll even get some during the
final round for ya.
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Date: 25 Oct 2006 12:28:39
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Bush's Most Honest Speech Ever
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:19:53 -0400, William A. T. Clark wrote:
> In article <1161707015.738271.206300@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Chris Bellomy wrote:
>> > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > : Chris Bellomy wrote:
>> > :> Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com> wrote:
>> > :> : Which US citizens have been denied the right of HC?
>> > :>
>> > :> Jose Padilla.
>> > :
>> > : One of out 300 Million...not bad.
>> >
>> > When the Nazis came for the communists,
>> > I remained silent;
>> > after all I was not a communist.
>> >
>> > When they locked up the social democrats,
>> > I remained silent;
>> > after all I was not a social democrat.
>> >
>> > When they came for the trade unionists,
>> > I did not speak out;
>> > after all I was not a trade unionist.
>> >
>> > When they came for me,
>> > there was no one left to speak out.
>>
>> When it gets to 1000, we'll talk again. Until then, you've injected
>> Nazi's...thread closed.
>
> Changing the subject and protesting too much doesn't let you off the
> fact that you were proved wrong. Couldn't expect you to admit it, though.
Tex never admits his many mistakes. Like Larry, when he gets caught
pulling some lie out of his ass he usually runs away to the next thread
and starts again. If he ever does respond, it's usually with some moronic
ad hominem, such as suggesting your brain is fried by drug (but not
alcohol) abuse or that he had sex with some member of your family, etc. He
apparently thinks he's funny, which is revealing in itself.
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