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Date: 19 Dec 2006 07:20:53
From: Jimbo
Subject: Skycaddie Disappointment
My wife bought me a skycaddie, and I have been "trying it out"

In spite of subscribing to membership in skygolf, and downloading several of
the "4 star" courses in the area (Hilton Head, SC), I am underwhelmed

The manual says it can show up to 400 "targets", such as bunkers, water
hazards, etc, displaying distances and carry distances. However, in all the
courses I look at, only about 20% of these are shown.

I have experimented with the advanced settings, to no avail

Is there something I am missing or doing wrong ?

TIA

JM






 
Date: 21 Dec 2006 05:04:11
From: mike_0_007@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment

sfb wrote:
> He might have been a ordinary land surveyor remeasuring the course along the
> line of play. All the modern golf course design and land surveying is being
> done with GPS. I saw one course under construction where they had a
> permanent differential GPS station mounted on a post.
>
> I can't find photos on the Internet, but I've see the Sky Caddie mapping
> gizmo and it looks like something from a NASA space walk with a couple of
> antennas, a backpack, and a laptop computer hanging off a shoulder harness.
>
> <mike_0_007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1166651131.678672.195590@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
> >I was playing a local course about 3 weeks ago (Stow, MA) and there was
> > a sky caddie person there mapping the course. He had some kind of GPS
> > device with him and a notebook, and mostly he was walking straight down
> > the middle of the fairways. He easily caught up to our 2-some and we
> > let him go through. He didn't seem to be spending much time hunting
> > about bushes or other landks on the holes, but obviously doing
> > something as he was walking the whole course.
> >
> > later in the day, a helicopter zipped over at least 3 fairways. No idea
> > if that was related, but it may have been.
> >

I asked, and he told me he was working for sky caddie. but he didn't
have much equipment and he basically was walking straight down the
middle of the fairways.



 
Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:45:31
From: mike_0_007@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment
I was playing a local course about 3 weeks ago (Stow, MA) and there was
a sky caddie person there mapping the course. He had some kind of GPS
device with him and a notebook, and mostly he was walking straight down
the middle of the fairways. He easily caught up to our 2-some and we
let him go through. He didn't seem to be spending much time hunting
about bushes or other landks on the holes, but obviously doing
something as he was walking the whole course.

later in the day, a helicopter zipped over at least 3 fairways. No idea
if that was related, but it may have been.



  
Date: 20 Dec 2006 17:04:42
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment
He might have been a ordinary land surveyor remeasuring the course along the
line of play. All the modern golf course design and land surveying is being
done with GPS. I saw one course under construction where they had a
permanent differential GPS station mounted on a post.

I can't find photos on the Internet, but I've see the Sky Caddie mapping
gizmo and it looks like something from a NASA space walk with a couple of
antennas, a backpack, and a laptop computer hanging off a shoulder harness.

<mike_0_007@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166651131.678672.195590@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
>I was playing a local course about 3 weeks ago (Stow, MA) and there was
> a sky caddie person there mapping the course. He had some kind of GPS
> device with him and a notebook, and mostly he was walking straight down
> the middle of the fairways. He easily caught up to our 2-some and we
> let him go through. He didn't seem to be spending much time hunting
> about bushes or other landks on the holes, but obviously doing
> something as he was walking the whole course.
>
> later in the day, a helicopter zipped over at least 3 fairways. No idea
> if that was related, but it may have been.
>




 
Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:30:19
From: iowagolf
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment

Jimbo wrote:
> My wife bought me a skycaddie, and I have been "trying it out"
>
> In spite of subscribing to membership in skygolf, and downloading several of
> the "4 star" courses in the area (Hilton Head, SC), I am underwhelmed
>
> The manual says it can show up to 400 "targets", such as bunkers, water
> hazards, etc, displaying distances and carry distances. However, in all the
> courses I look at, only about 20% of these are shown.
>
> I have experimented with the advanced settings, to no avail
>
> Is there something I am missing or doing wrong ?
>
> TIA


I don't have a skycaddy,but Last ch I was at Hilton Head,SC for a
week< Palmetto dunes,loved it > and rented a car from Savannah airport
with a GPS System,was an absolute disaster on the island,could not get
a single route correctly, I do not know if the GPS and skycaddy relate
in anyway, but maybe it's being on the island that messes up the info



  
Date: 20 Dec 2006 14:15:13
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment
It isn't the island. GPS lands airplanes on the center of runways. GPS
systems are only as good as the maps.

"iowagolf" <suleimanmd@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1166639419.369997.231740@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>
> Jimbo wrote:
>> My wife bought me a skycaddie, and I have been "trying it out"
>>
>> In spite of subscribing to membership in skygolf, and downloading several
>> of
>> the "4 star" courses in the area (Hilton Head, SC), I am underwhelmed
>>
>> The manual says it can show up to 400 "targets", such as bunkers, water
>> hazards, etc, displaying distances and carry distances. However, in all
>> the
>> courses I look at, only about 20% of these are shown.
>>
>> I have experimented with the advanced settings, to no avail
>>
>> Is there something I am missing or doing wrong ?
>>
>> TIA
>
>
> I don't have a skycaddy,but Last ch I was at Hilton Head,SC for a
> week< Palmetto dunes,loved it> and rented a car from Savannah airport
> with a GPS System,was an absolute disaster on the island,could not get
> a single route correctly, I do not know if the GPS and skycaddy relate
> in anyway, but maybe it's being on the island that messes up the info
>




 
Date: 20 Dec 2006 05:32:56
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment
sfb wrote:
> "A Brick in the Wall" <NoSpam@NoThanks.com> wrote in message
> news:4587b3b2$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
> > news:9fmdnXBS-fvMeRrYnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> "Jimbo" <jjmatthews@davtv.com> wrote in message
> >> news:em8lfa0b0e@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >>> My wife bought me a skycaddie, and I have been "trying it out"
> >>>
> >>> In spite of subscribing to membership in skygolf, and downloading
> >>> several of the "4 star" courses in the area (Hilton Head, SC), I am
> >>> underwhelmed
> >>>
> >>> The manual says it can show up to 400 "targets", such as bunkers, water
> >>> hazards, etc, displaying distances and carry distances. However, in all
> >>> the courses I look at, only about 20% of these are shown.
> >>>
> >>> I have experimented with the advanced settings, to no avail
> >>>
> >>> Is there something I am missing or doing wrong ?
> >>>
> Aren't corners on doglegs and fairway bunkers part of distances off the tee?
>
> >> Sky Caddie is only as good as the course mapping. It is possible that
> >> stuff wasn't mapped because the mapper was lazy or the stuff really
> >> doesn't matter. Too much information may be as bad as too little. You
> >> really are only looking for a few basic distances. Off the tee, 2nd shot
> >> son par 5, and distances to the pin.
> >
> > I guess I come from the other school of thought -- I want to know how far
> > the trees are on that dogleg, or how far to carry a bunker or pond.
> >
> It really is very simple. Distances off tees to doglegs, carrying or
> avoiding fairway bunkers, and driving through the fairway. Second shots on
> 5s. To the pin on 3s, second shots on 4s, and third shots on 5s. If you need
> 400 targets, then sell the Sky Caddie and take some lessons.

This presumes all shots come off perfect. The times I find these
kinds
of devices the most useful are for extremely bad shots. You know the
ones, like the shot from adjacent fairways, the skulled shot that
goes 100 yards off the tee on a par 5, the shot that lands on some
non-descript piece of land between two retention ponds, that kind of
thing. There are no kers there, and new and strange hazards
come into play that otherwise don't generally need distance references.
Heck, I've seen caddies on TOUR walking off distances because their
pro has landed in some strange place that has no references on their
yardage book.



 
Date: 19 Dec 2006 12:08:54
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment
"Is there something I am missing...?"

Well besides gonads, fashion sense, likeability, and spirit.......I
can't seem to think of anything.



 
Date: 19 Dec 2006 08:08:32
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment
Sky Caddie is only as good as the course mapping. It is possible that stuff
wasn't mapped because the mapper was lazy or the stuff really doesn't
matter. Too much information may be as bad as too little. You really are
only looking for a few basic distances. Off the tee, 2nd shot son par 5, and
distances to the pin.

"Jimbo" <jjmatthews@davtv.com > wrote in message
news:em8lfa0b0e@enews4.newsguy.com...
> My wife bought me a skycaddie, and I have been "trying it out"
>
> In spite of subscribing to membership in skygolf, and downloading several
> of the "4 star" courses in the area (Hilton Head, SC), I am underwhelmed
>
> The manual says it can show up to 400 "targets", such as bunkers, water
> hazards, etc, displaying distances and carry distances. However, in all
> the courses I look at, only about 20% of these are shown.
>
> I have experimented with the advanced settings, to no avail
>
> Is there something I am missing or doing wrong ?
>
> TIA
>
> JM
>




  
Date: 19 Dec 2006 08:17:34
From: A Brick in the Wall
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment

"sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote in message
news:9fmdnXBS-fvMeRrYnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@comcast.com...
> Sky Caddie is only as good as the course mapping. It is possible that
> stuff wasn't mapped because the mapper was lazy or the stuff really
> doesn't matter. Too much information may be as bad as too little. You
> really are only looking for a few basic distances. Off the tee, 2nd shot
> son par 5, and distances to the pin.
>

I guess I come from the other school of thought -- I want to know how far
the trees are on that dogleg, or how far to carry a bunker or pond.

> "Jimbo" <jjmatthews@davtv.com> wrote in message
> news:em8lfa0b0e@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> My wife bought me a skycaddie, and I have been "trying it out"
>>
>> In spite of subscribing to membership in skygolf, and downloading several
>> of the "4 star" courses in the area (Hilton Head, SC), I am underwhelmed
>>
>> The manual says it can show up to 400 "targets", such as bunkers, water
>> hazards, etc, displaying distances and carry distances. However, in all
>> the courses I look at, only about 20% of these are shown.
>>
>> I have experimented with the advanced settings, to no avail
>>
>> Is there something I am missing or doing wrong ?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> JM
>>
>
>




   
Date: 19 Dec 2006 13:49:14
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment
Aren't corners on doglegs and fairway bunkers part of distances off the tee?

It really is very simple. Distances off tees to doglegs, carrying or
avoiding fairway bunkers, and driving through the fairway. Second shots on
5s. To the pin on 3s, second shots on 4s, and third shots on 5s. If you need
400 targets, then sell the Sky Caddie and take some lessons.

"A Brick in the Wall" <NoSpam@NoThanks.com > wrote in message
news:4587b3b2$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
> news:9fmdnXBS-fvMeRrYnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Sky Caddie is only as good as the course mapping. It is possible that
>> stuff wasn't mapped because the mapper was lazy or the stuff really
>> doesn't matter. Too much information may be as bad as too little. You
>> really are only looking for a few basic distances. Off the tee, 2nd shot
>> son par 5, and distances to the pin.
>>
>
> I guess I come from the other school of thought -- I want to know how far
> the trees are on that dogleg, or how far to carry a bunker or pond.
>
>> "Jimbo" <jjmatthews@davtv.com> wrote in message
>> news:em8lfa0b0e@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>> My wife bought me a skycaddie, and I have been "trying it out"
>>>
>>> In spite of subscribing to membership in skygolf, and downloading
>>> several of the "4 star" courses in the area (Hilton Head, SC), I am
>>> underwhelmed
>>>
>>> The manual says it can show up to 400 "targets", such as bunkers, water
>>> hazards, etc, displaying distances and carry distances. However, in all
>>> the courses I look at, only about 20% of these are shown.
>>>
>>> I have experimented with the advanced settings, to no avail
>>>
>>> Is there something I am missing or doing wrong ?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> JM
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




    
Date: 19 Dec 2006 18:46:41
From: A Brick in the Wall
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment

"sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote in message
news:KNmdnaIbJbq2qRXYnZ2dnUVZ_sC3nZ2d@comcast.com...
> Aren't corners on doglegs and fairway bunkers part of distances off the
> tee?
>
> It really is very simple. Distances off tees to doglegs, carrying or
> avoiding fairway bunkers, and driving through the fairway. Second shots on
> 5s. To the pin on 3s, second shots on 4s, and third shots on 5s. If you
> need 400 targets, then sell the Sky Caddie and take some lessons.
>


1. I don't have one.

2. The courses I play -- for the most part do not give that information

3. YMMV


> "A Brick in the Wall" <NoSpam@NoThanks.com> wrote in message
> news:4587b3b2$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>
>> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
>> news:9fmdnXBS-fvMeRrYnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Sky Caddie is only as good as the course mapping. It is possible that
>>> stuff wasn't mapped because the mapper was lazy or the stuff really
>>> doesn't matter. Too much information may be as bad as too little. You
>>> really are only looking for a few basic distances. Off the tee, 2nd shot
>>> son par 5, and distances to the pin.
>>>
>>
>> I guess I come from the other school of thought -- I want to know how far
>> the trees are on that dogleg, or how far to carry a bunker or pond.
>>
>>> "Jimbo" <jjmatthews@davtv.com> wrote in message
>>> news:em8lfa0b0e@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>>> My wife bought me a skycaddie, and I have been "trying it out"
>>>>
>>>> In spite of subscribing to membership in skygolf, and downloading
>>>> several of the "4 star" courses in the area (Hilton Head, SC), I am
>>>> underwhelmed
>>>>
>>>> The manual says it can show up to 400 "targets", such as bunkers, water
>>>> hazards, etc, displaying distances and carry distances. However, in all
>>>> the courses I look at, only about 20% of these are shown.
>>>>
>>>> I have experimented with the advanced settings, to no avail
>>>>
>>>> Is there something I am missing or doing wrong ?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> JM
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




     
Date: 20 Dec 2006 07:53:19
From: Jimbo
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment
Thanks for your replies

I have tried several courses, all of which Skygolf.com has rated as
"4-star", including Harbourtown, and they are all missing critical info -
like how far to reach/carry a fairway bunker or advise you of a "hidden"
water hazard

Since I already have a Bushnell rangefinder, that is more accurate than the
Skycaddie, if I am not doing something wrong, I will return the Skycaddie

Thanks again


"A Brick in the Wall" <NoSpam@NoThanks.com > wrote in message
news:45884741_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
> news:KNmdnaIbJbq2qRXYnZ2dnUVZ_sC3nZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Aren't corners on doglegs and fairway bunkers part of distances off the
>> tee?
>>
>> It really is very simple. Distances off tees to doglegs, carrying or
>> avoiding fairway bunkers, and driving through the fairway. Second shots
>> on 5s. To the pin on 3s, second shots on 4s, and third shots on 5s. If
>> you need 400 targets, then sell the Sky Caddie and take some lessons.
>>
>
>
> 1. I don't have one.
>
> 2. The courses I play -- for the most part do not give that information
>
> 3. YMMV
>
>
>> "A Brick in the Wall" <NoSpam@NoThanks.com> wrote in message
>> news:4587b3b2$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>>
>>> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:9fmdnXBS-fvMeRrYnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Sky Caddie is only as good as the course mapping. It is possible that
>>>> stuff wasn't mapped because the mapper was lazy or the stuff really
>>>> doesn't matter. Too much information may be as bad as too little. You
>>>> really are only looking for a few basic distances. Off the tee, 2nd
>>>> shot son par 5, and distances to the pin.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I come from the other school of thought -- I want to know how
>>> far the trees are on that dogleg, or how far to carry a bunker or pond.
>>>
>>>> "Jimbo" <jjmatthews@davtv.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:em8lfa0b0e@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>>>> My wife bought me a skycaddie, and I have been "trying it out"
>>>>>
>>>>> In spite of subscribing to membership in skygolf, and downloading
>>>>> several of the "4 star" courses in the area (Hilton Head, SC), I am
>>>>> underwhelmed
>>>>>
>>>>> The manual says it can show up to 400 "targets", such as bunkers,
>>>>> water hazards, etc, displaying distances and carry distances. However,
>>>>> in all the courses I look at, only about 20% of these are shown.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have experimented with the advanced settings, to no avail
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there something I am missing or doing wrong ?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>> JM
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




    
Date: 19 Dec 2006 22:57:37
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Skycaddie Disappointment
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:49:14 -0500, "sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote:

>Aren't corners on doglegs and fairway bunkers part of distances off the tee?
>
>It really is very simple. Distances off tees to doglegs, carrying or
>avoiding fairway bunkers, and driving through the fairway. Second shots on
>5s. To the pin on 3s, second shots on 4s, and third shots on 5s. If you need
>400 targets, then sell the Sky Caddie and take some lessons.

We already have kers we can use when our ball is on the fairway.
But I've found that the kers on the adjoining fairways aren't much
help.