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Date: 08 Apr 2007 17:51:03
From: annika1980
Subject: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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Even I had to laugh at that Tiger outburst on #17. Had I been there
I'd have said, "Zach Johnson just won a new coat."
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 11:39:25
From: greers
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 9, 10:00 pm, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> frank ross <f...@net.net> wrote:
> > Dene wrote:
> >> On Apr 9, 12:46 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >>> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
> >>>> something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
> >>>> the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
> >>> Which Lord?
>
> >> The one you're worried about....
>
> >> -Greg
>
> > That seems to say that you have a choice of them. I think there's only
> > one choice.
>
> Oxymoron. Nothing that's predetermined can be a choice; nothing that's
> a choice can be predetermined.
>
> I *reeeeeeeeeeallly* strive to stay out of religious discussions, as
> everyone has a right to his own beliefs as a matter of basic human
> respect. But I'll say this. Any belief system that expects humans to
> exercise the reason and discriminating behavior of sheep is not for me.
> I do not believe that Yeshua Ben Miriam taught such beliefs, either,
> but I'll be damned (heh) if you don't seem to be saying here that
> humans should shut up, get in line, accept Jesus and be good little
> angels. Personally, I find the idea of living in such a belief structure
> to be extremely depressing.
>
> --
> Chris Bellomy
> C-List Charter Memberhttp://clist.org/- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
But you haven't got it yet. There is no "religion" being discussed in
this thread. It is about human psychology and the game of golf.
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 06:50:52
From: greers
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 9, 3:46 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com> wrote:
>
> >You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
> >something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
> >the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
>
> Which Lord?
> ___,
Any of them. In this case, the one that Tiger chose to blaspheme.
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 19:42:48
From: Dene
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 9, 7:00 pm, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> frank ross <f...@net.net> wrote:
> > Dene wrote:
> >> On Apr 9, 12:46 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >>> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
> >>>> something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
> >>>> the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
> >>> Which Lord?
>
> >> The one you're worried about....
>
> >> -Greg
>
> > That seems to say that you have a choice of them. I think there's only
> > one choice.
>
> Oxymoron. Nothing that's predetermined can be a choice; nothing that's
> a choice can be predetermined.
Personally I don't believe God predetermines much within our lives or
that of mankind. I think He's watching the play unfold, knowing
aspects of the beginning, middle (His Son's life), and ending. He
intervenes at times on a real time basis.
> I *reeeeeeeeeeallly* strive to stay out of religious discussions, as
> everyone has a right to his own beliefs as a matter of basic human
> respect. But I'll say this. Any belief system that expects humans to
> exercise the reason and discriminating behavior of sheep is not for me.
Agree, wholeheartedly. Christianity at it's core (unmerited grace) is
about liberty. It's about people realizing they are a child of God.
When it's realized, then the behavior changes freely and naturally.
Whereas, the dry religion you well describe, mandates the behavior
first in the hopes of reward later.
> I do not believe that Yeshua Ben Miriam taught such beliefs, either,
> but I'll be damned (heh) if you don't seem to be saying here that
> humans should shut up, get in line, accept Jesus and be good little
> angels. Personally, I find the idea of living in such a belief structure
> to be extremely depressing.
It is depressing.....I used to live/believe that way in my youth.
It's a difficult way to live and think. The net result is
frustration, dishonesty, and self righteousness.
-Greg
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 20:17:14
From: The World Wide Wade
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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In article <1176172968.567095.26050@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> Christianity at it's core (unmerited grace) is
> about liberty.
What an incredibly silly statement.
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 19:31:31
From: Dene
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 9, 6:27 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:56:14 -0500, frank ross <f...@net.net> wrote:
> >Dene wrote:
> >> On Apr 9, 12:46 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >>> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
> >>>> something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
> >>>> the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
> >>> Which Lord?
>
> >> The one you're worried about....
>
> >> -Greg
>
> >That seems to say that you have a choice of them. I think there's only
> >one choice. Otherwise you're lost.
>
> >Frank Ross
>
> And if there are many, and you made the wrong choice? It all boils
> down to one word, and it isn't absolute, it's belief.
Well said.....
-Greg
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 19:29:50
From: Dene
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 9, 5:56 pm, frank ross <f...@net.net > wrote:
> Dene wrote:
> > On Apr 9, 12:46 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com> wrote:
>
> >>> You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
> >>> something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
> >>> the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
> >> Which Lord?
>
> > The one you're worried about....
>
> > -Greg
>
> That seems to say that you have a choice of them. I think there's only
> one choice. Otherwise you're lost.
>
> Frank Ross
It was a tongue in cheek comment. Probably should have put the old
smiley face on it.
Regardless, my view is that there is one choice, one Lord, but
fortunately salvation is not conditioned on man figuring it out.
Salvation is God making the choice to save us, not the other way
around.
-Greg
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 14:54:22
From: Dene
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 9, 12:46 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com> wrote:
>
> >You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
> >something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
> >the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
>
> Which Lord?
The one you're worried about....
-Greg
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 19:56:14
From: frank ross
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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Dene wrote:
> On Apr 9, 12:46 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
>>> something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
>>> the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
>> Which Lord?
>
> The one you're worried about....
>
> -Greg
>
That seems to say that you have a choice of them. I think there's only
one choice. Otherwise you're lost.
Frank Ross
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 02:00:08
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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frank ross <fross@net.net > wrote:
> Dene wrote:
>> On Apr 9, 12:46 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>>> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
>>>> something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
>>>> the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
>>> Which Lord?
>>
>> The one you're worried about....
>>
>> -Greg
>>
> That seems to say that you have a choice of them. I think there's only
> one choice.
Oxymoron. Nothing that's predetermined can be a choice; nothing that's
a choice can be predetermined.
I *reeeeeeeeeeallly* strive to stay out of religious discussions, as
everyone has a right to his own beliefs as a matter of basic human
respect. But I'll say this. Any belief system that expects humans to
exercise the reason and discriminating behavior of sheep is not for me.
I do not believe that Yeshua Ben Miriam taught such beliefs, either,
but I'll be damned (heh) if you don't seem to be saying here that
humans should shut up, get in line, accept Jesus and be good little
angels. Personally, I find the idea of living in such a belief structure
to be extremely depressing.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 21:41:31
From: MoiMoi
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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In article <5805muF2fecpiU1@mid.individual.net >, fross@net.net says...
> Dene wrote:
> > On Apr 9, 12:46 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
> >>> something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
> >>> the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
> >> Which Lord?
> >
> > The one you're worried about....
> >
> > -Greg
> >
> That seems to say that you have a choice of them. I think there's only
> one choice. Otherwise you're lost.
>
> Frank Ross
Well, you mean Allah or Jesus?
MM
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 01:27:58
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:56:14 -0500, frank ross <fross@net.net > wrote:
>Dene wrote:
>> On Apr 9, 12:46 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>>> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
>>>> something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
>>>> the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
>>> Which Lord?
>>
>> The one you're worried about....
>>
>> -Greg
>>
>That seems to say that you have a choice of them. I think there's only
>one choice. Otherwise you're lost.
>
>Frank Ross
And if there are many, and you made the wrong choice? It all boils
down to one word, and it isn't absolute, it's belief.
My last post on this very personal subject.
___,
\o
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 13:16:15
From:
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 9, 12:25 pm, "greers" <gre...@scfworld.com > wrote:
> You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
> something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
> the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
Sorry, but bad = being a refugee in Darfur; good = being lucky enough
to be playing golf in your spare time.
Get some perspective. If there is a God, do you really think he's be
concerned about the wind blowing a little ball, or the fact that his
people always seem to be killing each other somewhere in His creation,
and they never learn.
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 21:43:22
From: MoiMoi
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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In article <1176149775.319897.311400@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com >,
rastafarians2002@yahoo.com says...
> Get some perspective. If there is a God, do you really think he's be
> concerned about the wind blowing a little ball, or the fact that his
> people always seem to be killing each other somewhere in His creation,
> and they never learn.
Oh, I dunno. He seems to care equally regarding both.
Meaning, not at all about either.
MM
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 12:25:15
From: greers
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 19:46:52
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <greers@scfworld.com > wrote:
>You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
>something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
>the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
Which Lord?
___,
\o
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 21:21:00
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2007 12:25:15 -0700, "greers" <greers@scfworld.com> wrote:
>
>>You taketh the Lord's name in vain, even unintentionally, and
>>something bad always happens. Believe me I should know. Things like
>>the wind doesn't work like it's supposed to and such.
>
> Which Lord?
This is a golf newsgroup, so it's Lord Byron. Please keep up.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 05:19:59
From: dsc
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 9, 12:25 am, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net >
wrote:
> "Chicago shorty fan" <youralmightylordandfat...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2007040821373316807-
>
> > I have said the same thing several thousand times, usually during the
> > same round. I love it when the pros shoot as bad as me. It allows me
> > to say, "Hell, Even I can do that!"
>
> It is the beauty of a tought track for a PGA tour event.
>
> The best thing that can happen is for the winner to shoot 1 over par for the
> week and the bottom of the field flirt with bogey golf so the rest of us can
> relate.
>
> It's good for golf.
>
> It's also fun to watch the best in the game struggle just like the rest of
> us.
>
> Otto
This years Masters and particularily the last day of it was about the
best it's been in several years. There were 8 or 10 people still with
a chance to win until very late in the day and a couple people (other
than ZJ) that still had a shot at it into 16, 17, 18. About the only
thing that could have made it better would have been a a 3 way playoff
decided on about the 4th hole just as dark was settling in.. :)
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 21:29:04
From:
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 8, 10:23 pm, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> texasg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Apr 8, 6:59 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
>
> >> Not even Zach Johnson thought Zach Johnson was going to win The Masters
> >> today.
>
> >> I mean, did you see how that blue shirt he was wearing clashed with his
> >> fancy new green jacket?
>
> >> Someone needs to explain color schemes to that boy.
>
> > Are you the queer one at your local course?
>
> Why, are you looking for a hookup?
No thangths Chrithy.
>
> --
> Chris Bellomy
> C-List Charter Memberhttp://clist.org/
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 04:37:22
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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texasgate@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 8, 10:23 pm, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
>> texasg...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Apr 8, 6:59 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Not even Zach Johnson thought Zach Johnson was going to win The Masters
>> >> today.
>>
>> >> I mean, did you see how that blue shirt he was wearing clashed with his
>> >> fancy new green jacket?
>>
>> >> Someone needs to explain color schemes to that boy.
>>
>> > Are you the queer one at your local course?
>>
>> Why, are you looking for a hookup?
>
> No thangths Chrithy.
Generally, the first one to bring up gayness is the one who likes
to take it up the ass. You must be the exception, though.
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Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 21:02:55
From:
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 8, 6:59 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com > wrote:
>
> Not even Zach Johnson thought Zach Johnson was going to win The Masters
> today.
>
> I mean, did you see how that blue shirt he was wearing clashed with his
> fancy new green jacket?
>
> Someone needs to explain color schemes to that boy.
Are you the queer one at your local course?
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 22:08:32
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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<texasgate@gmail.com > wrote ...
> On Apr 8, 6:59 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not even Zach Johnson thought Zach Johnson was going to win The Masters
>> today.
>>
>> I mean, did you see how that blue shirt he was wearing clashed with his
>> fancy new green jacket?
>>
>> Someone needs to explain color schemes to that boy.
>
> Are you the queer one at your local course?
Just because your wife has to dress you, it's not something to brag about.
Randy
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 04:23:49
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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texasgate@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 8, 6:59 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not even Zach Johnson thought Zach Johnson was going to win The Masters
>> today.
>>
>> I mean, did you see how that blue shirt he was wearing clashed with his
>> fancy new green jacket?
>>
>> Someone needs to explain color schemes to that boy.
>
> Are you the queer one at your local course?
Why, are you looking for a hookup?
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 19:40:45
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Apr 8, 9:50 pm, "Tom K" <tkani...@optonline.net > wrote:
> "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1176079863.864450.286420@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Even I had to laugh at that Tiger outburst on #17. Had I been there
> > I'd have said, "Zach Johnson just won a new coat."
>
> What happened is the first step in what also happened to great athletes like
> Michael Jordon, Wayne Gretzky, Joe Montana, Rod Laver....
>
> They're not just going against their fellow athletes... they're also going
> up against Father Time.
>
> Tiger doesn't have to like it... but that doesn't mean it's not happening.
>
> But what may actually happen is that Tiger becomes even more popular...
> since he comes across as human, rather than as a machine. Stars like Jack
> Nicklaus and Jimmy Connors became much more popular as they aged and were
> still able to win vs. when they were young and won all the time.
>
> --Tom
Really? Wow, it seemed like just last year when he won two majors and
dominated the tour. Oh, wait, it was!
I wouldn't say time has caught up with him quite yet, either in the
physical way or in the "He's human" way. He's played as well over the
last nine months as he has any time except during his Tiger Slam.
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 21:37:33
From: Chicago shorty fan
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On 2007-04-08 19:51:03 -0500, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > said:
> Even I had to laugh at that Tiger outburst on #17. Had I been there
> I'd have said, "Zach Johnson just won a new coat."
I have said the same thing several thousand times, usually during the
same round. I love it when the pros shoot as bad as me. It allows me
to say, "Hell, Even I can do that!"
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 00:25:29
From: Otto
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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"Chicago shorty fan" <youralmightylordandfather@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:2007040821373316807-
> I have said the same thing several thousand times, usually during the
> same round. I love it when the pros shoot as bad as me. It allows me
> to say, "Hell, Even I can do that!"
It is the beauty of a tought track for a PGA tour event.
The best thing that can happen is for the winner to shoot 1 over par for the
week and the bottom of the field flirt with bogey golf so the rest of us can
relate.
It's good for golf.
It's also fun to watch the best in the game struggle just like the rest of
us.
Otto
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 01:57:04
From: Da Ringer
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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If you would have played the ANGC in 25mph winds.... nobody in RSG would
have come close to breaking 100.
DaRinger
"Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote in message
news:BejSh.29872$_a1.15366@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Chicago shorty fan" <youralmightylordandfather@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> news:2007040821373316807-
>> I have said the same thing several thousand times, usually during the
>> same round. I love it when the pros shoot as bad as me. It allows me
>> to say, "Hell, Even I can do that!"
>
>
>
> It is the beauty of a tought track for a PGA tour event.
>
> The best thing that can happen is for the winner to shoot 1 over par for
> the
> week and the bottom of the field flirt with bogey golf so the rest of us
> can
> relate.
>
> It's good for golf.
>
> It's also fun to watch the best in the game struggle just like the rest of
> us.
>
> Otto
>
>
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 17:25:05
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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Da Ringer <DaRinger@home.net > wrote:
> If you would have played the ANGC in 25mph winds.... nobody in RSG would
> have come close to breaking 100.
I don't know about *that*. Somebody like Bret who can really roll
the rock could probably keep it in the 90s. But I wonder if I could
break 100 at ANGC from the tips with the temperature at 72*F and
the wind lying completely down. I doubt it.
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Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 02:49:42
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 21:37:33 -0500, Chicago shorty fan
<youralmightylordandfather@yahoo.com > wrote:
>On 2007-04-08 19:51:03 -0500, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> said:
>
>> Even I had to laugh at that Tiger outburst on #17. Had I been there
>> I'd have said, "Zach Johnson just won a new coat."
>
>I have said the same thing several thousand times, usually during the
>same round. I love it when the pros shoot as bad as me. It allows me
>to say, "Hell, Even I can do that!"
Bradley Dredge shot the highest score at Augusta today, 83. You can
do that? Doubtful. You might be able to match the 7 that Fuzzy made
on the par 4 11th though. :-)
___,
\o
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 22:48:18
From: Chicago shorty fan
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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On 2007-04-08 21:49:42 -0500, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > said:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 21:37:33 -0500, Chicago shorty fan
> <youralmightylordandfather@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2007-04-08 19:51:03 -0500, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> said:
>>
>>> Even I had to laugh at that Tiger outburst on #17. Had I been there
>>> I'd have said, "Zach Johnson just won a new coat."
>>
>> I have said the same thing several thousand times, usually during the
>> same round. I love it when the pros shoot as bad as me. It allows me
>> to say, "Hell, Even I can do that!"
>
> Bradley Dredge shot the highest score at Augusta today, 83. You can
> do that? Doubtful. You might be able to match the 7 that Fuzzy made
> on the par 4 11th though. :-)
> ___, \o
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 21:50:59
From: Tom K
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1176079863.864450.286420@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Even I had to laugh at that Tiger outburst on #17. Had I been there
> I'd have said, "Zach Johnson just won a new coat."
>
What happened is the first step in what also happened to great athletes like
Michael Jordon, Wayne Gretzky, Joe Montana, Rod Laver....
They're not just going against their fellow athletes... they're also going
up against Father Time.
Tiger doesn't have to like it... but that doesn't mean it's not happening.
But what may actually happen is that Tiger becomes even more popular...
since he comes across as human, rather than as a machine. Stars like Jack
Nicklaus and Jimmy Connors became much more popular as they aged and were
still able to win vs. when they were young and won all the time.
--Tom
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 00:22:37
From: Otto
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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"Tom K" <tkanitra@optonline.net > wrote in message
news:1_gSh.276$5M.81@newsfe12.lga...
> What happened is the first step in what also happened to great athletes
like
> Michael Jordon, Wayne Gretzky, Joe Montana, Rod Laver....
>
> They're not just going against their fellow athletes... they're also going
> up against Father Time.
>
> Tiger doesn't have to like it... but that doesn't mean it's not happening.
>
> But what may actually happen is that Tiger becomes even more popular...
> since he comes across as human, rather than as a machine. Stars like Jack
> Nicklaus and Jimmy Connors became much more popular as they aged and were
> still able to win vs. when they were young and won all the time.
Might work except I think Johnson is older than Tiger.
Wtf?
Otto
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 20:59:31
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote ...
> Even I had to laugh at that Tiger outburst on #17. Had I been there
> I'd have said, "Zach Johnson just won a new coat."
Not even Zach Johnson thought Zach Johnson was going to win The Masters
today.
I mean, did you see how that blue shirt he was wearing clashed with his
fancy new green jacket?
Someone needs to explain color schemes to that boy.
I wonder what kind of odds Vegas is giving for a Grand Slam this year
compared to the odds they were giving the last few years when the Masters
winner was Mickelson or Woods.
Frankly, once it appeared Tiger wasn't going to be very Tiger-like today, I
was rooting for Retief. He's a fine player, and I could totally see him
winning The Masters.
I wonder what that Iowa boy will be serving at next year's Champion's
Dinner. Chicken Pot Pies and corn-on-the-cob with a class of "pop?"
Randy
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 16:17:33
From: Bill
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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.
>
> Frankly, once it appeared Tiger wasn't going to be very Tiger-like today,
> I was rooting for Retief. He's a fine player, and I could totally see him
> winning The Masters.
>
>
Some players would look great in green and agree Retief would be one of them
and I would have liked to see him win.
Bill
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 21:06:41
From: Long Drive
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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Hey, I grew up in IOWA and we always drank POP from a "Glass" with "Class"
and knew how to spell both words too!
Corn-on-the-cob, come on, did Stephen Ames even make the cut??? Now that guy
has got some choppers!
Give Iowa a break - Between U of I, ISU, Drake and UNI college football,
basketball and most other sports are in the tank.
Congrats Zack Johnson, short knockers can win at Augusta...
""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:uv6dnWvbUa5XEoTbnZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote ...
>> Even I had to laugh at that Tiger outburst on #17. Had I been there
>> I'd have said, "Zach Johnson just won a new coat."
>
>
> Not even Zach Johnson thought Zach Johnson was going to win The Masters
> today.
>
> I mean, did you see how that blue shirt he was wearing clashed with his
> fancy new green jacket?
>
> Someone needs to explain color schemes to that boy.
>
> I wonder what kind of odds Vegas is giving for a Grand Slam this year
> compared to the odds they were giving the last few years when the Masters
> winner was Mickelson or Woods.
>
> Frankly, once it appeared Tiger wasn't going to be very Tiger-like today,
> I was rooting for Retief. He's a fine player, and I could totally see him
> winning The Masters.
>
> I wonder what that Iowa boy will be serving at next year's Champion's
> Dinner. Chicken Pot Pies and corn-on-the-cob with a class of "pop?"
>
> Randy
>
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 22:33:20
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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"Long Drive" <edsup@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:3ridnRvxv68CAoTbnZ2dnUVZ_sGqnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Hey, I grew up in IOWA and we always drank POP from a "Glass" with "Class"
> and knew how to spell both words too!
> Corn-on-the-cob, come on, did Stephen Ames even make the cut??? Now that
> guy has got some choppers!
> Give Iowa a break - Between U of I, ISU, Drake and UNI college football,
> basketball and most other sports are in the tank.
> Congrats Zack Johnson, short knockers can win at Augusta...
I didn't notice that he had knockers.
I think you're thinking of Mel Phickelson.
Randy
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 20:23:08
From: Long Drive
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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okay - got me there!
""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:-JKdnS1b1t1aOITbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "Long Drive" <edsup@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:3ridnRvxv68CAoTbnZ2dnUVZ_sGqnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Hey, I grew up in IOWA and we always drank POP from a "Glass" with
>> "Class" and knew how to spell both words too!
>> Corn-on-the-cob, come on, did Stephen Ames even make the cut??? Now that
>> guy has got some choppers!
>> Give Iowa a break - Between U of I, ISU, Drake and UNI college football,
>> basketball and most other sports are in the tank.
>> Congrats Zack Johnson, short knockers can win at Augusta...
>
>
> I didn't notice that he had knockers.
>
> I think you're thinking of Mel Phickelson.
>
> Randy
>
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 01:15:31
From: mssl
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:uv6dnWvbUa5XEoTbnZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote ...
> I wonder what that Iowa boy will be serving at next year's Champion's
> Dinner. Chicken Pot Pies and corn-on-the-cob with a class of "pop?"
>
> Randy
>
Corn-on-the-cob might be an option, but as a former midwesterner, chicken
pot pies are not a staple. Maybe 'loose meats' or breaded pork tenderloin
sandwiches. I never saw a chicken pot pie until I moved to California.
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 21:25:18
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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"mssl" <mssl@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:TsgSh.8012$YL5.304@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>
> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
> news:uv6dnWvbUa5XEoTbnZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote ...
> > I wonder what that Iowa boy will be serving at next year's Champion's
>> Dinner. Chicken Pot Pies and corn-on-the-cob with a class of "pop?"
>>
>> Randy
>>
>
> Corn-on-the-cob might be an option, but as a former midwesterner, chicken
> pot pies are not a staple. Maybe 'loose meats' or breaded pork tenderloin
> sandwiches. I never saw a chicken pot pie until I moved to California.
Having grown up a midwesterner (KC), pot pies were always fairly familiar to
my family.
Especially after my mom died and the only cook left was my dad. :-)
Randy
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 00:21:25
From: Otto
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:6Y-dndEDVohLCITbnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Having grown up a midwesterner (KC), pot pies were always fairly familiar
to
> my family.
>
Maybe in KC but Iowa is hog country.
Otto
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 01:14:54
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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"\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote:
> Frankly, once it appeared Tiger wasn't going to be very Tiger-like today, I
> was rooting for Retief. He's a fine player, and I could totally see him
> winning The Masters.
I thought he played the best, actually. He burned so many edges and
got zero good bounces. How many players would have killed yesterday
to get the ball to stay on the shelf at #16? I still can't figure out
how it stopped there.
> I wonder what that Iowa boy will be serving at next year's Champion's
> Dinner. Chicken Pot Pies and corn-on-the-cob with a class of "pop?"
Do Iowans import Runzas from Nebraska?
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 22:54:20
From: The World Wide Wade
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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In article <4T40eoslIvbN34@redshark.goodshow.net >,
Chris Bellomy <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> I thought he played the best, actually. He burned so many edges and
> got zero good bounces.
Well he got a good break on 18 when a poor second shot stayed short of
that bunker. I guess Jesus kept him out of it.
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 02:12:24
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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The World Wide Wade <aderamey.addw@comcast.net > wrote:
> In article <4T40eoslIvbN34@redshark.goodshow.net>,
> Chris Bellomy <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I thought he played the best, actually. He burned so many edges and
>> got zero good bounces.
>
> Well he got a good break on 18 when a poor second shot stayed short of
> that bunker.
I was referring to Goosen.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 19:34:31
From: The World Wide Wade
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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In article <5T40hgnnIik7N34@redshark.goodshow.net >,
Chris Bellomy <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> The World Wide Wade <aderamey.addw@comcast.net> wrote:
> > In article <4T40eoslIvbN34@redshark.goodshow.net>,
> > Chris Bellomy <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> I thought he played the best, actually. He burned so many edges and
> >> got zero good bounces.
> >
> > Well he got a good break on 18 when a poor second shot stayed short of
> > that bunker.
>
> I was referring to Goosen.
Sorry, my mistake. I also thought Goosen was going to win; he was
playing brilliantly.
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 22:07:06
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: "Seriously, what the Hell just happened here?"
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"The World Wide Wade" <aderamey.addw@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:aderamey.addw-F0389C.22542008042007@newsgroups.comcast.net...
> In article <4T40eoslIvbN34@redshark.goodshow.net>,
> Chris Bellomy <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I thought he played the best, actually. He burned so many edges and
>> got zero good bounces.
>
> Well he got a good break on 18 when a poor second shot stayed short of
> that bunker. I guess Jesus kept him out of it.
Although I'm not so sure that bunker shot would have been much more
difficult. Would have depended on the stance. If it had just trickled in
and left him with a stance outside the bunker, it might have been awkward.
But even still, that wouldn't have been a terribly difficult bunker shot.
Just get it out, and it would feed down to the hole.
Randy
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