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Date: 23 Mar 2007 13:02:52
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Subject: Replacing ball in bunker
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I just caught the tail end of a player who was allowed to k his
ball, then rake the area in the bunker and replace his ball with no
penalty. I've always figured you never touch a ball in a hazard
without penalty. Can any who saw it please explain. This all happened
minutes ago at the Blue Monster in Miami/CA Championship.
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Date: 24 Mar 2007 18:07:51
From: Mister Hand
Subject: Re: Replacing ball in bunker
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On 23, 9:55 pm, "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 23, 3:02 pm, bigoldc...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> > I just caught the tail end of a player who was allowed to k his
> > ball, then rake the area in the bunker and replace his ball with no
> > penalty. I've always figured you never touch a ball in a hazard
> > without penalty. Can any who saw it please explain. This all happened
> > minutes ago at the Blue Monster in Miami/CA Championship.
>
> I didn't see it, but if two balls end up so close together in a bunker
> that the shot of the first player alters the conditions that the
> second
> player had, he is allowed to recreate those conditions, which may
> require raking the bunker.
That's exactly what happened. The previous player's shot from the
bunker caused Stenson's ball to move. He reported it to the officials
and the ball was replaced.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 18:55:01
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: Replacing ball in bunker
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On 23, 3:02 pm, bigoldc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just caught the tail end of a player who was allowed to k his
> ball, then rake the area in the bunker and replace his ball with no
> penalty. I've always figured you never touch a ball in a hazard
> without penalty. Can any who saw it please explain. This all happened
> minutes ago at the Blue Monster in Miami/CA Championship.
I didn't see it, but if two balls end up so close together in a bunker
that the shot of the first player alters the conditions that the
second
player had, he is allowed to recreate those conditions, which may
require raking the bunker.
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Date: 24 Mar 2007 08:32:33
From: david s-a
Subject: Re: Replacing ball in bunker
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bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just caught the tail end of a player who was allowed to k his
> ball, then rake the area in the bunker and replace his ball with no
> penalty. I've always figured you never touch a ball in a hazard
> without penalty. Can any who saw it please explain. This all happened
> minutes ago at the Blue Monster in Miami/CA Championship.
>
I didn't see it, but it may have been a case of him re-creating the
conditions that existed when his ball originally came to rest, such
conditions having been disturbed by some other activity.
If he happened to have been taking an 'unplayable lie' (Rule 28) relief
in the bunker then he IS authorised to touch the ball, in fact he is
required to actually identify it as 'his' before taking Rule 28 relief.
(See Decision 28/1 and 15/4);"...even if the ball lies in a bunker..."
This doesn't explain why he was raking the bunker though!
cheers
david
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 21:52:24
From: Watson deMeneux
Subject: Re: Replacing ball in bunker
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david s-a wrote:
> bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I just caught the tail end of a player who was allowed to k his
>> ball, then rake the area in the bunker and replace his ball with no
>> penalty. I've always figured you never touch a ball in a hazard
>> without penalty. Can any who saw it please explain. This all happened
>> minutes ago at the Blue Monster in Miami/CA Championship.
>>
>
> I didn't see it, but it may have been a case of him re-creating the
> conditions that existed when his ball originally came to rest, such
> conditions having been disturbed by some other activity.
>
> If he happened to have been taking an 'unplayable lie' (Rule 28) relief
> in the bunker then he IS authorised to touch the ball, in fact he is
> required to actually identify it as 'his' before taking Rule 28 relief.
> (See Decision 28/1 and 15/4);"...even if the ball lies in a bunker..."
>
> This doesn't explain why he was raking the bunker though!
>
> cheers
> david
I believe it was the other player's caddie raking an other player's
mess. Both were in he same bumker.
--
Jack Skwaht
“Every time you tell me you don’t know, I’ll kill you.”
Knapp--victim recovery specialist on Kidnapped, holding a gun to the
head of a bad guy who (‘til now) refuses to talk.
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