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Date: 30 Sep 2006 21:08:33
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Pro V1 vs. V1x
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The subtitle of this topic is
"Dave, tell me again just exactly how long it took you to figure this out
for yourself??"
I'm finicky about golf balls and, in particular, how they react on short
pitch shots. I like balls that will (for me) check up pretty strongly on
(for example) LW'es or SW'es that carry 20'ish yards (or less - particularly
the LW). Not many balls out there 'work for me' given that criteria - a few
that have met that criteria are:
* Strata Tour Ultimate (great ball but had the durability of wet tissue
paper)
* 2002/3 vintage Pro V1's (occasionally too spinney on full SW/LW shots)
* Callaway HX Red and HX Blue (Blue was a bit short and almost too spinney
across the board). I really liked the Red.
* Current vintage Pro V1
Among the balls that didn't make the cut was the Pro V1x. I didn't find any
of these balls to be particularly short or long, other than maybe the HX
Blue.
I recently changed back to the Pro V1 and have been less than enthralled
with its response off the tee - something that I'm not usually so picky
about and something that I don't recall objecting to back in 2002/3. I had a
handful of Pro V1x'es laying around and decided to give them a try on the
course this week.
My impression of these balls for quite some time was that I just don't have
the swingspeed to hit them longer than the Pro V1, etc. My driver SS is
somewhere in the high 90's and a 250 yard drive on flat/watered fairways is
a very good, but not unheard of, drive for me. And other than a barely
noticeable loss of yardage with the HX Blue, I had never noticed a distance
change when switching balls.
I was close to astounded at some of the drives that I was hitting on
Wednesday. It was a reasonable day for hitting long balls (been relatively
dry and temps were high 70's - no wind), but nothing special. I can derive a
surprising amount of information from the relatively small amount of data
that I collect on the course. Simply stated I had the longest driving day
(technically it was tied with my longest driving day) that I have recorded
in the last 170 rounds (when I started this particular data collection
methodology. My average drive length on holes that I deem 'driving
comparison holes' was 20 yards longer than 'normal' for me.
While this was a good ballstriking day for me, I only get to '10 yards
longer than normal' about 10% of my rounds. One round hardly proves
anything, but it sure looks like I might well be getting 10+ extra yards out
of the Pro V1x vs. the other balls that I've played regularly.
So I'll be a Pro V1x user for a while. It will definitely change my play
around the greens as this ball (for me) does not act like either the HX Red
or Pro V1 on shorter pitch shots hit with a SW or LW.
dave
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Date: 01 Oct 2006 08:21:58
From: david s-a
Subject: Re: Pro V1 vs. V1x
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Dave Lee wrote:
> So I'll be a Pro V1x user for a while. It will definitely change my play
> around the greens as this ball (for me) does not act like either the HX Red
> or Pro V1 on shorter pitch shots hit with a SW or LW.
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> dave
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I have found the same with the Pro V1's. Some days they are particularly
hot...others they don't fly at all well.....OTOH the Pro V1x's display
similar characteristics but a little further up the 'hot' scale.
I sense that ambient conditions are quite critical...warm dry days thay
all fly well yet anything below about 15°C (59°F), and humid, they are
quite variable. I understand that they are are all basically the same
ball with a 'cut-off' compression/elasticity test in production dividing
the two types. I could be wrong there, it is only hearsay. The range of
quality is quite wide and I have found that one sleeve of Pro V1's can
be particularly 'hot' compared with another bought on quite a different
occasion, which must have been at the bottom end of the continuum.
Just my opinion, but I wonder whether others have found the same thing.
cheers
david
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Date: 30 Sep 2006 14:39:39
From: dsc
Subject: Re: Pro V1 vs. V1x
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How do you rate teh Nike one black?
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Date: 30 Sep 2006 22:10:02
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Pro V1 vs. V1x
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"dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu > wrote in message
news:1159652379.170533.231790@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> How do you rate teh Nike one black?
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I tried out (around the greens only) whatever Nike's high end ball was back
in the spring of 2005. I just don't remember the exact model. It didn't have
the kind of around the green performance that I like. But then again neither
does the V1x, which I'm playing right now :-)
dave
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