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Date: 04 Apr 2007 05:07:45
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Pressel and Wie
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Compliments for Pressel and constructive criticism for Wie.
By Amy Alcott, Special to Yahoo! Sports
April 3, 2007
I was fortunate enough to be near the 18th green at the Kraft Nabisco
Championship when Morgan Pressel came through.
"Go knock it in," I said to her after she crossed the bridge heading
to the green. "There's a place on the walkway of champions with your
name on it."
It wasn't going to happen soon enough, she told me.
"You'd be surprised, and you never know when it's going to happen," I
told her.
Pressel made the putt and when everyone else faltered down the
stretch, she won the tournament to become the youngest major champion
in LPGA Tour history.
For Morgan, this is only the beginning. She's going to win a lot more
tournaments and I'm convinced she'll win more majors. I'm excited for
her.
I'm also excited for women's golf.
I have nothing against the great players from all over the world, but
seeing an American - a young, charismatic, feisty American - capture
such a prestigious event fills me with enormous hope for the future of
our sport. The vast majority of tour events are played in this
country, and if Pressel, who is only 18, and other Americans play
well, it might generate larger galleries and, conceivably, generate
larger endorsement dollars.
I greatly admire Morgan's commitment to the game. While other players
of her generation seem more consumed at times with marketing
themselves, she recognizes that true success in her sport, in any
sport, is measured by only one standard - victories, especially in the
big events.
No doubt, the others are very talented and serious about doing well,
but perhaps they should put their priorities away from the course on
hold for a little while, at least until they win a few more
tournaments. This game is way too difficult to split your focus with
other professional demands.
In golf and throughout our society, so many young people want to brand
themselves to stick out and be visible. Look at YouTube. Look at
American Idol. Everyone feels they have something to show the rest of
us. I know I sound like a traditionalist, but people just seem to be
too impatient to be noticed. Well, to me, the best way to be noticed
is to perform.
I think Michelle Wie, perhaps more than anyone, should take a big
lesson from Pressel's win. Nobody is a bigger fan of Michelle Wie than
I am. I think she is remarkable, and there's no limit to the records
she could set on the LPGA Tour. The key, though, is the LPGA Tour.
A few years ago, when Michelle tried to make the cut at the men's
tournament in Hawaii, I was behind her 100 percent. But, like many, I
think it's time she devote all of her energy to our tour. If she
establishes herself as a consistent winner, which I'm sure she can do,
then at that point it will be time for her to test her game against
the men. It will be very exciting, but first things first, Michelle.
Focus on being the best you can be.
Pressel is not the only one who makes me so confident in the future of
women's golf. Brittany Linicome. Brittany Lang. Paula Creamer. Natalie
Gulbis. Lorena Ochoa. The list goes on and on. The amount of talented
young players on the tour these days is staggering, and it's only
going to get better. All of the girls in grade school and high school
who will be inspired by these performers will not only take up golf
but also excel in it.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 08:08:15
From: B. Martin
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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Nice of you to elect yourself as the arbiter of what Wie should do.
It is her life and
she is within her rights to choose her course. You think it is an
unrealistic goal
to shoot for playing the PGA tour, Wie apparently doesn't think it is
unrealistic or
is not yet convinced.
Are you so small minded that you would wish that a teenager stop
pursuing a
dream?
I could argue that is equally unrealistic for you to post a useful
post, so maybe you
should stop posting to this group. Satisfy yourself with
pontificating at your golf
course with your sycophants.
B. Martin
Jack Skwaht wrote:
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> SNIP
>
> If michelle plays the LPGA full
> > time, she's gonna stay there. Not that that's bad, but the point is
> > if you're gonna play on the PGA you have to learn how to play the
> > men's game.
>
> "...if you're gonna play on the PGA..." Wake up buddy, this will NEVER
> happen. NEVER. It's a pipe dream. Can't happen. Won't. Never. Michelle
> Wie is a great talent, with enormous potential, but she's a woman, and
> no matter what she does, she'll never be able to compete with PGA
> calibre men. Not possible.
>
> > Even if michelle gets to the point where she can win say 12 LPGA
> > events a year, she still won't have the skills needed to play the
> > PGA.
>
> Michelle Wie is not even at the point where she can win ONE LPGA event.
> Perhaps she should look at that as a goal, instead of perpetuating the
> unrealistic goal of PGA membership. It seems you believe that the skills
> she needs for a Men's Tour career are available only by playing the
> courses the men play.
>
> In other words, according to you, Michelle Wie needs to play the PGA in
> order to be able to play the PGA. Any idea how this might happen?
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 09:26:40
From:
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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On 5 Apr, 17:21, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com > wrote:
> "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote
>
>
>
> > I have nothing against the great players from all over the world, but
> > seeing an American - a young, charismatic, feisty American - capture
> > such a prestigious event fills me with enormous hope for the future of
> > our sport.
>
> See, I don't understand this point of view at all.
>
> What's with all this "I wanna see an American win" stuff, anyway? What
> difference does it make?
>
> Did you not pull for Greg Norman? Did you not admire his awesome skills on
> the golf course when he was the world's #1 player? He's an Aussie. Did you
> not appreciate the talent of Nick Faldo and enjoy seeing him win 6 major
> championships in the '90s? How can someone not like Bernhard Langer? Or
> Nick Price, one of the most likeable guys in golf? And while I found Jose
> Maria Olazabal's 1999 Masters win less than stirring at the time, it's hard
> to dispute the fact that a guy who overcame a terrible foot problem that
> threatened his career (and at one point had him concerned about whether he
> would even be able to walk again) was a great feel-good story, regardless of
> whether you're from Ollie's home country of Spain.
>
> Last I checked, America's national security was not bolstered by having a US
> citizen win a major golf tournament. Our taxes will not go up or down as a
> result, and neither will the national debt. The nation's economy is
> unaffected by the outcome. The price of a gallon of gas is unaffected, and
> so is our food supplies. Hurricane Katrina still hit the Gulf Coast,
> despite the fact that Americans had just won the last two major
> championships, so the weather didn't seem to care, either. Will the
> terrorists stop wanting to kill Americans if a few more Americans will just
> win some more golf majors? Uh, I doubt it. Will the suicide rate, the
> murder rate, the AIDS epidemic or child molestation be reduced in the least
> if more Americans would win a few more golf majors? Uh, no.
>
> So what's the real benefit of an American winning?
>
> Do you need an American to win golf championships to feel proud to wave your
> flag? I hope not.
>
> Maybe you need it just to feel better about being an American. If that's
> true, it probably says more about you (or whoever wrote this article) and
> the state of the good ol' USA than it does about anything else.
>
> Personally, I'd just like to see great golf and to have the best player win,
> regardless of what country they're from. As long as it's a good story, I'm
> fine with it.
>
> Randy
Very well said. It will be interesting to see if people read the logic
in that, rather than just reacting without thinking.
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 12:21:43
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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"BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote
>
> I have nothing against the great players from all over the world, but
> seeing an American - a young, charismatic, feisty American - capture
> such a prestigious event fills me with enormous hope for the future of
> our sport.
See, I don't understand this point of view at all.
What's with all this "I wanna see an American win" stuff, anyway? What
difference does it make?
Did you not pull for Greg Norman? Did you not admire his awesome skills on
the golf course when he was the world's #1 player? He's an Aussie. Did you
not appreciate the talent of Nick Faldo and enjoy seeing him win 6 major
championships in the '90s? How can someone not like Bernhard Langer? Or
Nick Price, one of the most likeable guys in golf? And while I found Jose
Maria Olazabal's 1999 Masters win less than stirring at the time, it's hard
to dispute the fact that a guy who overcame a terrible foot problem that
threatened his career (and at one point had him concerned about whether he
would even be able to walk again) was a great feel-good story, regardless of
whether you're from Ollie's home country of Spain.
Last I checked, America's national security was not bolstered by having a US
citizen win a major golf tournament. Our taxes will not go up or down as a
result, and neither will the national debt. The nation's economy is
unaffected by the outcome. The price of a gallon of gas is unaffected, and
so is our food supplies. Hurricane Katrina still hit the Gulf Coast,
despite the fact that Americans had just won the last two major
championships, so the weather didn't seem to care, either. Will the
terrorists stop wanting to kill Americans if a few more Americans will just
win some more golf majors? Uh, I doubt it. Will the suicide rate, the
murder rate, the AIDS epidemic or child molestation be reduced in the least
if more Americans would win a few more golf majors? Uh, no.
So what's the real benefit of an American winning?
Do you need an American to win golf championships to feel proud to wave your
flag? I hope not.
Maybe you need it just to feel better about being an American. If that's
true, it probably says more about you (or whoever wrote this article) and
the state of the good ol' USA than it does about anything else.
Personally, I'd just like to see great golf and to have the best player win,
regardless of what country they're from. As long as it's a good story, I'm
fine with it.
Randy
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 01:05:45
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:21:43 -0400, "\"R&B\""
<noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote:
>See, I don't understand this point of view at all.
>
>What's with all this "I wanna see an American win" stuff, anyway? What
>difference does it make?
If irrational pride is good enough to go to war, it's good enough to
go to sport.
(And we find it all over the world).
But seriously - sports is about root, root, rooting for the home team.
Aussies cheer when an Oz player wins, South Africans cheer when a home
guy wins, Canadians cheer when a Canadian wins, Brits cheer when Brits
win. The newspapers bold the names of locals. And everybody
cheers when their country gets Olympic medals.
With other sports, I don't have the time nor inclination to follow all
teams - so I follow Colorado teams. Golf is a bit different, when I
follow The Masters, I see all the best players in the World today. And
I root for individuals and performances, not countries. But that's
pretty unique.
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 22:10:39
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:5r6b139l7u5gc5gcsj530ki6qd2q2o7atu@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:21:43 -0400, "\"R&B\""
> <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote:
>
>>See, I don't understand this point of view at all.
>>
>>What's with all this "I wanna see an American win" stuff, anyway? What
>>difference does it make?
>
> If irrational pride is good enough to go to war, it's good enough to
> go to sport.
>
> (And we find it all over the world).
>
> But seriously - sports is about root, root, rooting for the home team.
> Aussies cheer when an Oz player wins, South Africans cheer when a home
> guy wins, Canadians cheer when a Canadian wins, Brits cheer when Brits
> win. The newspapers bold the names of locals. And everybody
> cheers when their country gets Olympic medals.
>
> With other sports, I don't have the time nor inclination to follow all
> teams - so I follow Colorado teams. Golf is a bit different, when I
> follow The Masters, I see all the best players in the World today. And
> I root for individuals and performances, not countries. But that's
> pretty unique.
Well, if golf is about root, root, root for the home team, then I'm left
with rooting for players from Atlanta. Since Larry Nelson isn't entered in
The Masters this year, that leaves some pretty thin pickins.
Go Stewart Cink!!!
Yeah, whatever.
Sorry, Howard, but that's just a stupid argument.
Did you root for Jack Nicklaus in '86? Are you from Columbus, Ohio? If
not, then you were rooting for the road team. And if you were rooting for
Jack, were you rooting for him because he's an American? Or because he's
Jack Nicklaus?
Don't bother answering that. We already know the answer.
Dumb argument.
Randy
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 09:59:27
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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> By Amy Alcott, Special to Yahoo! Sports
> April 3, 2007
>
> I was fortunate enough to be near the 18th green at the Kraft Nabisco
> Championship when Morgan Pressel came through.
>
And when Pressel came out of the pond Alcott said, "Now let's get you
out of those wet clothes!"
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 08:38:26
From:
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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On Apr 4, 9:16 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> BigPurdueFan wrote:
> > Compliments for Pressel and constructive criticism for Wie.
>
> > By Amy Alcott, Special to Yahoo! Sports
> > April 3, 2007
>
> > A few years ago, when Michelle tried to make the cut at the men's
> > tournament in Hawaii, I was behind her 100 percent. But, like many, I
> > think it's time she devote all of her energy to our tour. If she
> > establishes herself as a consistent winner, which I'm sure she can do,
> > then at that point it will be time for her to test her game against
> > the men. It will be very exciting, but first things first, Michelle.
> > Focus on being the best you can be.
>
> Amy alcott doesn't understand golf. If michelle plays the LPGA full
> time, she's gonna stay there. Not that that's bad, but the point is if
> you're gonna play on the PGA you have to learn how to play the men's
> game. That means hitting the ball out of deep rough and imparting lots
> of backspin to your irons and learning how to putt hard fast greens with
> the flagstick at the crown of the green. You won't learn that stuff
> playing LPGA couses.
>
> Even if michelle gets to the point where she can win say 12 LPGA events
> a year, she still won't have the skills needed to play the PGA.
Amy Alcott doesnt understand golf? LOL
She is saying that winning on the LPGA is better than missing cuts on
the PGA. You have to learn how to win and Wie hasnt had that lesson
yet.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 15:16:58
From: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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BigPurdueFan wrote:
> Compliments for Pressel and constructive criticism for Wie.
>
> By Amy Alcott, Special to Yahoo! Sports
> April 3, 2007
>
>
> A few years ago, when Michelle tried to make the cut at the men's
> tournament in Hawaii, I was behind her 100 percent. But, like many, I
> think it's time she devote all of her energy to our tour. If she
> establishes herself as a consistent winner, which I'm sure she can do,
> then at that point it will be time for her to test her game against
> the men. It will be very exciting, but first things first, Michelle.
> Focus on being the best you can be.
>
Amy alcott doesn't understand golf. If michelle plays the LPGA full
time, she's gonna stay there. Not that that's bad, but the point is if
you're gonna play on the PGA you have to learn how to play the men's
game. That means hitting the ball out of deep rough and imparting lots
of backspin to your irons and learning how to putt hard fast greens with
the flagstick at the crown of the green. You won't learn that stuff
playing LPGA couses.
Even if michelle gets to the point where she can win say 12 LPGA events
a year, she still won't have the skills needed to play the PGA.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 11:51:25
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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Wie has shown absolutely nothing in her game that indicates any success on
the PGA Tour. There are 16 year old boys all over Florida who can hit the
ball as long off the tee as she can.
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote in
message news:KjPQh.18202
>
> Amy alcott doesn't understand golf. If michelle plays the LPGA full time,
> she's gonna stay there. Not that that's bad, but the point is if you're
> gonna play on the PGA you have to learn how to play the men's game. That
> means hitting the ball out of deep rough and imparting lots of backspin to
> your irons and learning how to putt hard fast greens with the flagstick at
> the crown of the green. You won't learn that stuff playing LPGA couses.
>
> Even if michelle gets to the point where she can win say 12 LPGA events a
> year, she still won't have the skills needed to play the PGA.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 17:22:28
From: Alex Neri
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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These 16-year olds may "hit the ball as long off the tee as she can" but I
would I would love to see them play mano-a-mano with Wie and see how they
do. You're suffering from a very common disease: the bombers' mentality.
"sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote in message
news:-8KdnbcpSbjiVI7bnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Wie has shown absolutely nothing in her game that indicates any success on
> the PGA Tour. There are 16 year old boys all over Florida who can hit the
> ball as long off the tee as she can.
>
> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:KjPQh.18202
>>
>> Amy alcott doesn't understand golf. If michelle plays the LPGA full
>> time, she's gonna stay there. Not that that's bad, but the point is if
>> you're gonna play on the PGA you have to learn how to play the men's
>> game. That means hitting the ball out of deep rough and imparting lots of
>> backspin to your irons and learning how to putt hard fast greens with the
>> flagstick at the crown of the green. You won't learn that stuff playing
>> LPGA couses.
>>
>> Even if michelle gets to the point where she can win say 12 LPGA events a
>> year, she still won't have the skills needed to play the PGA.
>
>
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 16:46:59
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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You would be surprised how well these kids can play. The FSGA runs a entire
series of winter junior events to hone the kids for the summer tour and the
competition is fierce.
Ms. Wie is about as physically mature as she will ever be. Those 16 year old
boys that can hit the ball as far off the tee will be that much bigger and
stronger when they graduate college and turn pro.
The point isn't who wins today, but rather Wie hasn't shown any skills that
dozens of kids her age in warm weather states like Florida, Arizona, and
California don't also have.
"Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:o9RQh.2005$m72.318@news.cpqcorp.net...
> These 16-year olds may "hit the ball as long off the tee as she can" but I
> would I would love to see them play mano-a-mano with Wie and see how they
> do. You're suffering from a very common disease: the bombers' mentality.
>
> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
> news:-8KdnbcpSbjiVI7bnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Wie has shown absolutely nothing in her game that indicates any success
>> on the PGA Tour. There are 16 year old boys all over Florida who can hit
>> the ball as long off the tee as she can.
>>
>> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:KjPQh.18202
>>>
>>> Amy alcott doesn't understand golf. If michelle plays the LPGA full
>>> time, she's gonna stay there. Not that that's bad, but the point is if
>>> you're gonna play on the PGA you have to learn how to play the men's
>>> game. That means hitting the ball out of deep rough and imparting lots
>>> of backspin to your irons and learning how to putt hard fast greens with
>>> the flagstick at the crown of the green. You won't learn that stuff
>>> playing LPGA couses.
>>>
>>> Even if michelle gets to the point where she can win say 12 LPGA events
>>> a year, she still won't have the skills needed to play the PGA.
>>
>>
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 15:48:07
From: Alex Neri
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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You seem to have knack for "belaboring the obvious". All I have to do is
look at the driving stats for the LPGA versus the PGA and there is no
comparison. Ditto for other stats. One could argue that the women can't
really compete with the men, as evidenced by Annika's inability to make the
cut at the Colonial. However to say that a 16-year old that can outdrive Wie
and therefore can beat her in a game is quite a simplistic
oversimplification. A match is not won by the big stick alone, otherwise the
David Toms and Chris DiMarcos of the world would not stand a chance in the
PGA tour. Thus the "bombers' mentality" disease.
As for other the "dozens of kids her age in warm weather ...", gee, I've
haven't seen too many of these skillful players being invited to play in an
LPGA major, unlike Ms Wie who first played in the 2003 KNC at age 13, having
been the youngest player to win the WAPL at 13.
"sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote in message
news:LJ-dnTNLXftYk4nbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@comcast.com...
> You would be surprised how well these kids can play. The FSGA runs a
> entire series of winter junior events to hone the kids for the summer tour
> and the competition is fierce.
>
> Ms. Wie is about as physically mature as she will ever be. Those 16 year
> old boys that can hit the ball as far off the tee will be that much bigger
> and stronger when they graduate college and turn pro.
>
> The point isn't who wins today, but rather Wie hasn't shown any skills
> that dozens of kids her age in warm weather states like Florida, Arizona,
> and California don't also have.
>
> "Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:o9RQh.2005$m72.318@news.cpqcorp.net...
>> These 16-year olds may "hit the ball as long off the tee as she can" but
>> I would I would love to see them play mano-a-mano with Wie and see how
>> they do. You're suffering from a very common disease: the bombers'
>> mentality.
>>
>> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
>> news:-8KdnbcpSbjiVI7bnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Wie has shown absolutely nothing in her game that indicates any success
>>> on the PGA Tour. There are 16 year old boys all over Florida who can hit
>>> the ball as long off the tee as she can.
>>>
>>> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> message news:KjPQh.18202
>>>>
>>>> Amy alcott doesn't understand golf. If michelle plays the LPGA full
>>>> time, she's gonna stay there. Not that that's bad, but the point is if
>>>> you're gonna play on the PGA you have to learn how to play the men's
>>>> game. That means hitting the ball out of deep rough and imparting lots
>>>> of backspin to your irons and learning how to putt hard fast greens
>>>> with the flagstick at the crown of the green. You won't learn that
>>>> stuff playing LPGA couses.
>>>>
>>>> Even if michelle gets to the point where she can win say 12 LPGA events
>>>> a year, she still won't have the skills needed to play the PGA.
>>>
>>>
>
>
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 19:37:06
From: Jack Skwaht
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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Alex Neri wrote:
> These 16-year olds may "hit the ball as long off the tee as she can" but
> I would I would love to see them play mano-a-mano with Wie and see how
> they do. You're suffering from a very common disease: the bombers'
> mentality.
>
I think the response about the 16 year olds was designed to be evidence
that Michelle's prodigous 16 year old girl drives are nothing special
since there are 16 year old boy drives just like it. The conclusion one
*should* draw from this is that MW's likelihood of competing against men
is 0. After all, 16 year old boys grow up to be men; 16 year old girls
are pretty well already grown up.
--
Jack Skwaht
“Every time you tell me you don’t know, I’ll kill you.”
Knapp--victim recovery specialist on Kidnapped, holding a gun to the
head of a bad guy who (‘til now) refuses to talk.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 10:48:36
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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In article <KjPQh.18202$PL.10859@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote:
> BigPurdueFan wrote:
> > Compliments for Pressel and constructive criticism for Wie.
> >
> > By Amy Alcott, Special to Yahoo! Sports
> > April 3, 2007
> >
>
> >
> > A few years ago, when Michelle tried to make the cut at the men's
> > tournament in Hawaii, I was behind her 100 percent. But, like many, I
> > think it's time she devote all of her energy to our tour. If she
> > establishes herself as a consistent winner, which I'm sure she can do,
> > then at that point it will be time for her to test her game against
> > the men. It will be very exciting, but first things first, Michelle.
> > Focus on being the best you can be.
> >
>
> Amy alcott doesn't understand golf. If michelle plays the LPGA full
> time, she's gonna stay there. Not that that's bad, but the point is if
> you're gonna play on the PGA you have to learn how to play the men's
> game. That means hitting the ball out of deep rough and imparting lots
> of backspin to your irons and learning how to putt hard fast greens with
> the flagstick at the crown of the green. You won't learn that stuff
> playing LPGA couses.
>
> Even if michelle gets to the point where she can win say 12 LPGA events
> a year, she still won't have the skills needed to play the PGA.
I'm not a real Wie fan, but I don't agree. I think she does have the
skills, or at least she did before all the 'trainers' got to her. I
have made the comment at my course that she drives nearly like the men
doing power drives. Hit it hard and don't worry about the direction
method that seems to work so well for many. But from the rough, which
she finds all too often, she doesn't do so well.
Of course, there are now women on the tour that are driving nearly as
far as she does, but generally more accurate.
But the more serious problem for her might be those wrists. This is the
second injury to her wrists in the last couple of years.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 15:36:16
From: Jack Skwaht
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
SNIP
I'm going to make the assumption that this isn't a blatant attempt by a
troll to spark some useless debate...folly perhaps, but nevertheless... >
>
> Amy alcott doesn't understand golf.
Amy Alcott has forgotten more about golf than you'll ever hope to know
or understand. Have a look at her career, and sucess and you'll see
more there than 90% of pros, on any tour. (30+ wins, 5 majors...to save
you the trouble of looking it up.)
If michelle plays the LPGA full
> time, she's gonna stay there. Not that that's bad, but the point is
> if you're gonna play on the PGA you have to learn how to play the
> men's game.
"...if you're gonna play on the PGA..." Wake up buddy, this will NEVER
happen. NEVER. It's a pipe dream. Can't happen. Won't. Never. Michelle
Wie is a great talent, with enormous potential, but she's a woman, and
no matter what she does, she'll never be able to compete with PGA
calibre men. Not possible.
>
> Even if michelle gets to the point where she can win say 12 LPGA
> events a year, she still won't have the skills needed to play the
> PGA.
Michelle Wie is not even at the point where she can win ONE LPGA event.
Perhaps she should look at that as a goal, instead of perpetuating the
unrealistic goal of PGA membership. It seems you believe that the skills
she needs for a Men's Tour career are available only by playing the
courses the men play.
In other words, according to you, Michelle Wie needs to play the PGA in
order to be able to play the PGA. Any idea how this might happen?
Forget it, this *was* a troll.
--
Jack Skwaht
“Every time you tell me you don’t know, I’ll kill you.”
Knapp--victim recovery specialist on Kidnapped, holding a gun to the
head of a bad guy who (‘til now) refuses to talk.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 06:57:26
From: MMan
Subject: Re: Pressel and Wie
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On Apr 4, 8:07 am, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com > wrote:
> Compliments for Pressel and constructive criticism for Wie.
>
> By Amy Alcott, Special to Yahoo! Sports
A bit of a harsher take by Chris Baldwin here:
http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2007/04/03/michelle_wie_truth_telling_morgan_presse
"Pressel is a golfer who paid her dues, won at every level, did
everything that Wie's advisors feared letting her do - to prevent the
truth about her game coming out any sooner than it has. But even more
than that, Pressel had the courage - something very lacking in today's
PC sports world of robots - to remark on how ridiculous the hype Wie
had got compared to Wie's actual very limited accomplishments (no
wins)."
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