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Date: 02 Apr 2007 02:07:35
From: George Orwell
Subject: Pressel Does It Right
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Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 14:25:24
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Apr 4, 5:03 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it > wrote:
> In article <1175653085.769165.224...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
>
> "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The problem is that you tried to deny it and claimed it as FACT, when
> > > > it is not. It was personal opinion only.
>
> > > yappy yappy yappy. YOu have no life right??? Just another stupid purdue fan. That is FRANK purdue right?????
> > > run along while I continue to print the facts which you can't ascertain.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Frank Purdue? Stop, you're killing me! No, that's really hilarious!
> > Did you come up with that yourself? I just can't stop laughing.
> > Another stupid purdue fan? Wow, I'm doubling over with laughter. Stop!
>
> > Btw, I don't have a life? I'm not the one spending time bashing a 16
> > year old girl.
>
> Sorry to hit such a nerve with ya frank. All that poo-pooing seems to tell me that you must be a little bothered and >I'm so sorry to see that. Shameful too that you have so little bit of your life left that you obsess on usenet posts when >they don't share your opinion. I'm sure you've been told to get a life before but you really should have heeded. Unlike >you, I'm not duped into the wide-eyed-wie-worship you seem to have fallen for and sorry too that I don't think JUST L>IKE YOU and become a dupe of whatever the media wants me to think. Now, chirp away all you like or in your >case, cluck and your 15 seoncds of my time are up.
Like I said, I'm not the one who doesn't have a life. I'm not the one
spending my time bashing a 16 year old girl.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 00:41:38
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <1175721924.208767.255060@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >
"BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote:
>
> On Apr 4, 5:03 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > In article <1175653085.769165.224...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
> >
> > "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > The problem is that you tried to deny it and claimed it as FACT, when
> > > > > it is not. It was personal opinion only.
> >
> > > > yappy yappy yappy. YOu have no life right??? Just another stupid purdue fan. That is FRANK purdue right?????
> > > > run along while I continue to print the facts which you can't ascertain.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > Frank Purdue? Stop, you're killing me! No, that's really hilarious!
> > > Did you come up with that yourself? I just can't stop laughing.
> > > Another stupid purdue fan? Wow, I'm doubling over with laughter. Stop!
> >
> > > Btw, I don't have a life? I'm not the one spending time bashing a 16
> > > year old girl.
> >
> > Sorry to hit such a nerve with ya frank. All that poo-pooing seems to tell me that you must be a little bothered and >I'm so sorry to see that. Shameful too that you have so little bit of your life left that you obsess on usenet posts when >they don't share your opinion. I'm sure you've been told to get a life before but you really should have heeded. Unlike >you, I'm not duped into the wide-eyed-wie-worship you seem to have fallen for and sorry too that I don't think JUST L>IKE YOU and become a dupe of whatever the media wants me to think. Now, chirp away all you like or in your >case, cluck and your 15 seoncds of my time are up.
>
> Like I said, I'm not the one who doesn't have a life. I'm not the one
> spending my time bashing a 16 year old girl.
Count on it happening again and again mr. leddon. Get used to it.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 07:14:06
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Apr 3, 8:06 am, multi <m...@asm.org > wrote:
> You must be a sock puppet for Ben.
I'm out to get you, Pitts is out to get you, I'm an "understudy" for
Pitts, Joe User is a Ben sock, yada yada yada. To quote....you:
"I think psychologists call this "projection."
Settle down, M, no one is a sock for anyone else, you just have really
thin skin.
SNIP the other ten + paragraphs of rambling bullsh...errr,
contradictory oratory sophistry.
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 19:18:05
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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> > The problem is that you tried to deny it and claimed it as FACT, when
> > it is not. It was personal opinion only.
>
> yappy yappy yappy. YOu have no life right??? Just another stupid purdue fan. That is FRANK purdue right?????
> run along while I continue to print the facts which you can't ascertain.- Hide quoted text -
Frank Purdue? Stop, you're killing me! No, that's really hilarious!
Did you come up with that yourself? I just can't stop laughing.
Another stupid purdue fan? Wow, I'm doubling over with laughter. Stop!
Btw, I don't have a life? I'm not the one spending time bashing a 16
year old girl.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 23:03:28
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <1175653085.769165.224520@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >
"BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote:
>
> > > The problem is that you tried to deny it and claimed it as FACT, when
> > > it is not. It was personal opinion only.
> >
> > yappy yappy yappy. YOu have no life right??? Just another stupid purdue fan. That is FRANK purdue right?????
> > run along while I continue to print the facts which you can't ascertain.- Hide quoted text -
>
> Frank Purdue? Stop, you're killing me! No, that's really hilarious!
> Did you come up with that yourself? I just can't stop laughing.
> Another stupid purdue fan? Wow, I'm doubling over with laughter. Stop!
>
> Btw, I don't have a life? I'm not the one spending time bashing a 16
> year old girl.
Sorry to hit such a nerve with ya frank. All that poo-pooing seems to tell me that you must be a little bothered and I'm so sorry to see that. Shameful too that you have so little bit of your life left that you obsess on usenet posts when they don't share your opinion. I'm sure you've been told to get a life before but you really should have heeded. Unlike you, I'm not duped into the wide-eyed-wie-worship you seem to have fallen for and sorry too that I don't think JUST LIKE YOU and become a dupe of whatever the media wants me to think. Now, chirp away all you like or in your case, cluck and your 15 seoncds of my time are up.
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 09:24:17
From: B. Martin
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> In article <7923135p2bn5fmp8g8s0kfsc1r200kncjc@4ax.com>,
> multi <multi@asm.org> wrote:
>
> > Let's see. Michelle is financially secure for life, and is going to
> > Stanford this fall. Pressel is skipping college. Now, who did it
> > right? Unless the lesson for kids is "winning is the only thing," I'd
> > say Michelle.
>
> I wouldn't agree. It is about being successful in your chosen career.
> Morgan has chosen professional golf as her career, which doesn't require
> a college degree. Is she making the right choice? I don't know, nor do
> you.
No one can know, but it doesn't change the possibility that some
others will
get the message that skipping your education is acceptable to try a
pro
career. Look at college basketball players who leave early and bust.
Pressel
may succeed, but most others likely will not if they try the same
direction.
B. Martin
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 05:00:36
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Apr 2, 6:25 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it > wrote:
> In article <1175513979.786731.105...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 1, 9:23 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > In article <1175475119.163679.70...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
>
> > > a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 1, 6:07 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > > > Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
>
> > > > Yes, she has a lot of class. I'll bet she can even offer
> > > > congratulations to someone without simultaneously trashing someone
> > > > else.
>
> > > Just stating what she did and didn't do. No opinion, just statement of fact.
>
> > You really believe that? Not everyone believes that Wie or anything
> > about her is a "circus act". That's an opinion, not a statement of
> > fact. There are negatives about Morgan as well, but I'm certainly not
> > going to air them here. You obviously meant to slam Wie along with
> > congratulating Morgan. There is no "statement of facts" intent here.
>
> You're absolutely right. You were clever enough to read between the lines and find that reference to 'circus act' and piece together the true meaning of the da vinci code, hidden among the pyramids and encryptions of the Illuminati. Nice going. Oh, many have 'slammed Wie,' not just me and some of those are sports writers and actual golf professionals. Oh, woe is me, wie.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The problem is that you tried to deny it and claimed it as FACT, when
it is not. It was personal opinion only.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 01:07:06
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <1175601636.208180.250850@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com >
"BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote:
>
> On Apr 2, 6:25 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > In article <1175513979.786731.105...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Apr 1, 9:23 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > > In article <1175475119.163679.70...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> >
> > > > a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Apr 1, 6:07 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > > > > Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
> >
> > > > > Yes, she has a lot of class. I'll bet she can even offer
> > > > > congratulations to someone without simultaneously trashing someone
> > > > > else.
> >
> > > > Just stating what she did and didn't do. No opinion, just statement of fact.
> >
> > > You really believe that? Not everyone believes that Wie or anything
> > > about her is a "circus act". That's an opinion, not a statement of
> > > fact. There are negatives about Morgan as well, but I'm certainly not
> > > going to air them here. You obviously meant to slam Wie along with
> > > congratulating Morgan. There is no "statement of facts" intent here.
> >
> > You're absolutely right. You were clever enough to read between the lines and find that reference to 'circus act' and piece together the true meaning of the da vinci code, hidden among the pyramids and encryptions of the Illuminati. Nice going. Oh, many have 'slammed Wie,' not just me and some of those are sports writers and actual golf professionals. Oh, woe is me, wie.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The problem is that you tried to deny it and claimed it as FACT, when
> it is not. It was personal opinion only.
yappy yappy yappy. YOu have no life right??? Just another stupid purdue fan. That is FRANK purdue right?????
run along while I continue to print the facts which you can't ascertain.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 00:07:24
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On 3-Apr-2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it > wrote:
> yappy yappy yappy. YOu have no life right??? Just another stupid purdue
> fan. That is FRANK purdue right?????
> run along while I continue to print the facts which you can't ascertain.
Mmmmmmm chicken....
me
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 21:00:36
From:
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Apr 1, 6:42 pm, Colin Wilson <publ...@removethis.kyneton.net.au >
wrote:
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> > And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
>
> > Congrats to her.
>
> Well done.
>
> But didn't the top 4 after the third round blow it!
But Pressel didn't blow it. You blow.
>
> Se Ri Pak +5
> Pettersen +2
> Francella +2
> Creamer +6
>
> Combined 15 over par.
You just about ran out of fingers and toes for that one.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Colin Wilson
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Trentham Golf Club:http://www.trenthamgolf.com
> Barnbougle Dunes:http://publishing.kyneton.net.au/barnbougle
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 02:41:14
From: Joe User
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:57:59 -0600, multi wrote:
> Let's see. Michelle is financially secure for life, and is going to
> Stanford this fall. Pressel is skipping college. Now, who did it
> right? Unless the lesson for kids is "winning is the only thing," I'd
> say Michelle.
Wait a minute. You used to argue that Michelle was more successful in
golf than anybody else at her age. I think that you were one of the
breathless fans who proclaimed her "The Greatest 16 Year Old Player Of
Either Sex In History". People replied with examples of other 16-year
olds who had done impressive things. You used to talk about how close
she was coming to winning. People pointed out that others her age had
come close, too. You replied that she came close more often than anybody
else, or something like that.
In other words, your arguments were all about her achievements in the
game of golf. Now that another young player has accomplished something
in the game that Michelle has only dreamed of, you're completely changing
your argument. Now, it no longer matters how she plays or whether she
ever wins. The only thing that matters is that she got a huge
endorsement contract from Nike and is set for life, and for that reason
alone, "she did it right."
That isn't what you were saying a year or two ago, though. Back when you
thought a win for Michelle was just aroung the corner you were saying,
"Just wait and see." Well, we waited and now we've seen. The folks who
were saying that Morgan was doing it right have a pretty strong piece of
evidence in their favor, now.
Oh, and Morgan is doing okay financially, I'm pretty sure. She's not in
Michelle's league in terms of endorsement contracts, but she's doing
well. Would she trade her title and endorsements for Michelle's
endorsements? Not on your life. Would Michelle trade her multi-million
dollar endorsements to be in Morgan's place with much smaller
endorsements but with a major title? You bet your ass she would. In a
heartbeat.
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 02:11:15
From: Joe User
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 23:27:16 +0000, Alex Neri wrote:
> Regarding your comment that "nobody plays the Futures Tour by choice".
> First of all, you're belaboring the obvious and so that statement
> becomes just "noise". Secondly, when you make that statement who are you
> rebutting? Nobody on this thread has claimed that.
You did. Here's what you said:
"She [Morgan Pressel] chose to ask the LPGA to waive the age limit and
joined at age 17. Others have chosen to get more seasoning in the Futures
tour and have been very successful transitioning to the LPGA."
That sounds like you had no idea that Pressel actually went to Q-School
and won her card there. It sounds like you thought Pressel just wrote
asked them if they would please let her join the LPGA and they said yes.
It sounds like you didn't even know that players actually have to earn
their way into the LPGA tour.
It sounds like you were under the impression that players simply choose
to play on the LPGA tour whenever they feel like it, but some players
choose to get a little better first by playing on the Futures tour.
> If you read my post,
> I simply said that there are many routes to becoming a top-notch LPGA
> player and one of them is through the Futures tour.
Again, you were wrong when you claimed that some players have "CHOSEN to
get more seasoning in the Futures tour." No one chooses to play on the
Futures or Nationwide tour. They only play there if they can't qualify
for the big show.
> In short, please don't denigrate the Futures tour. You are doing a lot
> of disservice to players who honed their skill in that tour, and are now
> very successful players in the LPGA.
You're misreading what he said. No one is denigrating the Futures tour,
or the Nationwide tour, for that matter. By now, everyone knows that
some of the top players on both major tours came up through the minor
league tours.
He was simply responding to your own absurd claim that some players
"choose" to get more seasoning on the Futures tour before moving on to
the LPGA. You seemed to be trying to construct some sort of rebuttal to
someone's claim that Morgan came up the "right" way, but in doing so you
came up with an example that was obviously false. Somebody called you on
it, you bucked up and denied saying it (either you forgot you said it or
you believed that no one would go back and check), and here we are.
Your only hope of saving face is by either committing hari-kari, or by
composing a one-word reply that says "Oops", and then dropping out of the
thread and changing your name, never using Alex Neri on Usenet again.
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 02:25:35
From: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
Subject: Re: Black journo on lack of blacks on PGA - "We've got a $60 billion-a-year
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"R&B" wrote:
>
> 3. Your rebuttal to Mr. McDaniels' comments is telling, and frankly, smacks
> of a defiant racist undertone. On the one hand you opine that "Blacks
> dominate the NFL, NBA and MLB so who are they to complain." Then in the
> next breath you state that, "No one is stopping blacks from playing the
> PGA." My counter-argument to you would be this: Who are you, as a
> self-appointed spokesman for the caucasian race, to complain that blacks
> dominate the NFL, NBA and MLB? No one is stopping whites from elevating
> their games to a level necessary to dominate those leagues. So STFU with
> that ridiculous and irrelevant line of argument.
>
As usual, your microscopic brain be jumping to conclusions. I'm NOT
complaining there are too many blacks in other sports. I'm just stating
their dominance as a fact and a very unimportant fact, i might add.
Blacks and whites can go out for any sport they want and who cares?.
My objection is with this black writer who definitely is complaining
about black under-representation on the PGA tour. THINK
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 18:25:31
From: MMan
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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multi wrote:
> You could be right about Michelle not being sure about a pro career.
> She was obviously playing golf for the fun of it a couple of years
> ago, but after all the sniping she got last year from people like
> Orwell, maybe it's not so fun anymore.
She's upset about what's being said on Usenet newsgroups? Are you
kidding me?
(And Morgan was called a "whore" is this very thread ...)
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 18:21:11
From: MMan
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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multi wrote:
> Let's see. Michelle is financially secure for life, and is going to
> Stanford this fall.
I wonder about that. Most of Michelle's money is from endorsements,
not
tournament winnings. Doesn't that money come with strings attached,
like "you've got to play golf a lot in public." It's one thing to
play 6-7
tournaments a year when you're 16 and the LPGA won't let you apply
for membership, but another thing when you're 18-19-20 years old.
Aren't Wie's sponsors going to start asking "what have you done for me
lately?" I don't think "I aced my freshman English midterm" is going
to
cut it.
Right now, Morgan has a great answer to that question.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 16:57:59
From: multi
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 02:07:35 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
<nobody@mixmaster.it > wrote:
>Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
Let's see. Michelle is financially secure for life, and is going to
Stanford this fall. Pressel is skipping college. Now, who did it
right? Unless the lesson for kids is "winning is the only thing," I'd
say Michelle.
9 PM at the Orwell house:
"Daddy, can I do my homework now?"
"Not until you sink 100 putts in a row! Get back out there and
practice some more!"
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 19:10:15
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <7923135p2bn5fmp8g8s0kfsc1r200kncjc@4ax.com >,
multi <multi@asm.org > wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 02:07:35 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
> <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> >Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make
> >excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a
> >circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this
> >and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use
> >'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
>
> Let's see. Michelle is financially secure for life, and is going to
> Stanford this fall. Pressel is skipping college. Now, who did it
> right? Unless the lesson for kids is "winning is the only thing," I'd
> say Michelle.
>
> 9 PM at the Orwell house:
> "Daddy, can I do my homework now?"
> "Not until you sink 100 putts in a row! Get back out there and
> practice some more!"
I wouldn't agree. It is about being successful in your chosen career.
Morgan has chosen professional golf as her career, which doesn't require
a college degree. Is she making the right choice? I don't know, nor do
you.
Maybe Michelle is going to college because she is not so sure about her
future in professional golf. Again, neither you nor I know if that is
right or even the right choice for her.
I'd say it is a draw.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 19:09:45
From: multi
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:10:15 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:
>In article <7923135p2bn5fmp8g8s0kfsc1r200kncjc@4ax.com>,
> multi <multi@asm.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 02:07:35 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
>> <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>>
>> >Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make
>> >excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a
>> >circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this
>> >and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use
>> >'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
>>
>> Let's see. Michelle is financially secure for life, and is going to
>> Stanford this fall. Pressel is skipping college. Now, who did it
>> right? Unless the lesson for kids is "winning is the only thing," I'd
>> say Michelle.
>>
>> 9 PM at the Orwell house:
>> "Daddy, can I do my homework now?"
>> "Not until you sink 100 putts in a row! Get back out there and
>> practice some more!"
>
>I wouldn't agree. It is about being successful in your chosen career.
>Morgan has chosen professional golf as her career, which doesn't require
>a college degree. Is she making the right choice? I don't know, nor do
>you.
>
>Maybe Michelle is going to college because she is not so sure about her
>future in professional golf. Again, neither you nor I know if that is
>right or even the right choice for her.
>
>I'd say it is a draw.
Well, that's sort of my point. Both girls are EXTREMELY accomplished
for their age. Both are so young that it is ridiculous to even talk
about their life achievements, let alone to decide that one has blown
it. But here comes Orwell, feeling very smug that Morgan won before
Michelle did. Never mind that Morgan is playing full time, while
Michelle is playing six or seven events a year while going to school
full time; it is geometric proof that he knows more about what's best
for Michelle than she or her parents.
You could be right about Michelle not being sure about a pro career.
She was obviously playing golf for the fun of it a couple of years
ago, but after all the sniping she got last year from people like
Orwell, maybe it's not so fun anymore.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 20:59:47
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <hu8313pul7udaec2hpapd9v7op0v6cbhv0@4ax.com >,
multi <multi@asm.org > wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:10:15 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <7923135p2bn5fmp8g8s0kfsc1r200kncjc@4ax.com>,
> > multi <multi@asm.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 02:07:35 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
> >> <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make
> >> >excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without
> >> >being a
> >> >circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All
> >> >this
> >> >and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use
> >> >'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
> >>
> >> Let's see. Michelle is financially secure for life, and is going to
> >> Stanford this fall. Pressel is skipping college. Now, who did it
> >> right? Unless the lesson for kids is "winning is the only thing," I'd
> >> say Michelle.
> >>
> >> 9 PM at the Orwell house:
> >> "Daddy, can I do my homework now?"
> >> "Not until you sink 100 putts in a row! Get back out there and
> >> practice some more!"
> >
> >I wouldn't agree. It is about being successful in your chosen career.
> >Morgan has chosen professional golf as her career, which doesn't require
> >a college degree. Is she making the right choice? I don't know, nor do
> >you.
> >
> >Maybe Michelle is going to college because she is not so sure about her
> >future in professional golf. Again, neither you nor I know if that is
> >right or even the right choice for her.
> >
> >I'd say it is a draw.
>
> Well, that's sort of my point. Both girls are EXTREMELY accomplished
> for their age. Both are so young that it is ridiculous to even talk
> about their life achievements, let alone to decide that one has blown
> it. But here comes Orwell, feeling very smug that Morgan won before
> Michelle did. Never mind that Morgan is playing full time, while
> Michelle is playing six or seven events a year while going to school
> full time; it is geometric proof that he knows more about what's best
> for Michelle than she or her parents.
>
> You could be right about Michelle not being sure about a pro career.
> She was obviously playing golf for the fun of it a couple of years
> ago, but after all the sniping she got last year from people like
> Orwell, maybe it's not so fun anymore.
Michelle has plenty of problems facing her now, the least of which is
the sniping. Hell, the circus that surrounds her is not her friend,
more a distraction to her I would think.
But from a practical standpoint, Michelle used to have such a natural
swing, with a very long, mostly accurate drive. Now Today she's not so
accurate, and her length isn't much different than many of today's LPGA
stars. BUT, there is some evidence that her wrists may be an issue,
bigger than she and her entourage let on. Had she been playing this
past weekend, on that course with narrow fairways and a damn tough
rough, those wrists could have been a real problem.
Given that, I suspect that she will fade out of the pros in the near
future. That's will be unfortunate.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 17:28:48
From: Alex Neri
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
Let's not get carried away here. Though it was a great win for her, ONE WIN
does not a career make. And it terms of "doing it right", there is is NO ONE
right way. She chose to ask the LPGA to waive the age limit and joined at
age 17. Others have chosen to get more seasoning in the Futures tour and
have been very successful transitioning to the LPGA. As for your reference
to the "circus act", you can call it anything you want but she is laughing
all the way to the back with Nike money.
"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it > wrote in message
news:ffdb1fcedda6438451cc02e1be5ce688@mixmaster.it...
> Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make
> excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being
> a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All
> this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't
> use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
>
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 13:00:33
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
Please don't be silly. Nobody chooses the lesser tours like the Futures or
Nationwide. Either you got it and play with the big kids or spend time in
the minor leagues trying to develop more of it.
Pressel only asked for a few months wavier after she had graduated from high
school. She earned a spot on the tour in the fall Q school, graduated from
high school at mid-term, and wasn't turning 18 until May. The LPGA allowed
her to start playing in February rather than waiting until May.
"Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:k3bQh.1875$P21.251@news.cpqcorp.net...
> Let's not get carried away here. Though it was a great win for her, ONE
> WIN does not a career make. And it terms of "doing it right", there is is
> NO ONE right way. She chose to ask the LPGA to waive the age limit and
> joined at age 17. Others have chosen to get more seasoning in the Futures
> tour and have been very successful transitioning to the LPGA. As for your
> reference to the "circus act", you can call it anything you want but she
> is laughing all the way to the back with Nike money.
>
> "George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
> news:ffdb1fcedda6438451cc02e1be5ce688@mixmaster.it...
>> Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make
>> excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without
>> being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a
>> major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while
>> jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
>>
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 18:11:39
From: Alex Neri
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
Top Duramed FUTURES Alumnae Finishes on the KNC, including on Lorena Ochoa.
Last time I checked, she was the player of the year in 2006.
T5 Stacy Prammanasudh 287 (-1)
T5 Meaghan Francella 287 (-1)
T10 Angela Stanford 289 (+1)
T10 Lorena Ochoa 289 (+1)
T13 Sarah Lee 290 (+2)
19 Moira Dunn 292 (+4)
T20 Cristie Kerr 293 (+5)
T20 Karrie Webb 293 (+5)
T20 Sherri Steinhauer 293 (+5)
"sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote in message
news:h4GdnUHcCYIuq4zbnZ2dnUVZ_vumnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Please don't be silly. Nobody chooses the lesser tours like the Futures or
> Nationwide. Either you got it and play with the big kids or spend time in
> the minor leagues trying to develop more of it.
>
> Pressel only asked for a few months wavier after she had graduated from
> high school. She earned a spot on the tour in the fall Q school, graduated
> from high school at mid-term, and wasn't turning 18 until May. The LPGA
> allowed her to start playing in February rather than waiting until May.
>
>
> "Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:k3bQh.1875$P21.251@news.cpqcorp.net...
>> Let's not get carried away here. Though it was a great win for her, ONE
>> WIN does not a career make. And it terms of "doing it right", there is is
>> NO ONE right way. She chose to ask the LPGA to waive the age limit and
>> joined at age 17. Others have chosen to get more seasoning in the Futures
>> tour and have been very successful transitioning to the LPGA. As for your
>> reference to the "circus act", you can call it anything you want but she
>> is laughing all the way to the back with Nike money.
>>
>> "George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
>> news:ffdb1fcedda6438451cc02e1be5ce688@mixmaster.it...
>>> Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't
>>> make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played
>>> without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first
>>> AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet
>>> while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go
>>> Morgan.
>>>
>
>
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 15:28:02
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
Yes, players have graduated from the Futures to the LPGA and done very well,
but nobody plays the Futures Tour by choice.
"Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:vHbQh.1876$541.1261@news.cpqcorp.net...
> Top Duramed FUTURES Alumnae Finishes on the KNC, including on Lorena
> Ochoa. Last time I checked, she was the player of the year in 2006.
>
> T5 Stacy Prammanasudh 287 (-1)
> T5 Meaghan Francella 287 (-1)
> T10 Angela Stanford 289 (+1)
> T10 Lorena Ochoa 289 (+1)
> T13 Sarah Lee 290 (+2)
> 19 Moira Dunn 292 (+4)
> T20 Cristie Kerr 293 (+5)
> T20 Karrie Webb 293 (+5)
> T20 Sherri Steinhauer 293 (+5)
>
>
>
>
> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
> news:h4GdnUHcCYIuq4zbnZ2dnUVZ_vumnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Please don't be silly. Nobody chooses the lesser tours like the Futures
>> or Nationwide. Either you got it and play with the big kids or spend time
>> in the minor leagues trying to develop more of it.
>>
>> Pressel only asked for a few months wavier after she had graduated from
>> high school. She earned a spot on the tour in the fall Q school,
>> graduated from high school at mid-term, and wasn't turning 18 until May.
>> The LPGA allowed her to start playing in February rather than waiting
>> until May.
>>
>>
>> "Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:k3bQh.1875$P21.251@news.cpqcorp.net...
>>> Let's not get carried away here. Though it was a great win for her, ONE
>>> WIN does not a career make. And it terms of "doing it right", there is
>>> is NO ONE right way. She chose to ask the LPGA to waive the age limit
>>> and joined at age 17. Others have chosen to get more seasoning in the
>>> Futures tour and have been very successful transitioning to the LPGA. As
>>> for your reference to the "circus act", you can call it anything you
>>> want but she is laughing all the way to the back with Nike money.
>>>
>>> "George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
>>> news:ffdb1fcedda6438451cc02e1be5ce688@mixmaster.it...
>>>> Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't
>>>> make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played
>>>> without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first
>>>> AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet
>>>> while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go
>>>> Morgan.
>>>>
>>
>>
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 23:27:16
From: Alex Neri
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
Regarding your comment that "nobody plays the Futures Tour by choice". First
of all, you're belaboring the obvious and so that statement becomes just
"noise". Secondly, when you make that statement who are you rebutting?
Nobody on this thread has claimed that. If you read my post, I simply said
that there are many routes to becoming a top-notch LPGA player and one of
them is through the Futures tour.
In short, please don't denigrate the Futures tour. You are doing a lot of
disservice to players who honed their skill in that tour, and are now very
successful players in the LPGA.
"sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote in message
news:yeSdncs1l8TZxIzbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Yes, players have graduated from the Futures to the LPGA and done very
> well, but nobody plays the Futures Tour by choice.
>
> "Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:vHbQh.1876$541.1261@news.cpqcorp.net...
>> Top Duramed FUTURES Alumnae Finishes on the KNC, including on Lorena
>> Ochoa. Last time I checked, she was the player of the year in 2006.
>>
>> T5 Stacy Prammanasudh 287 (-1)
>> T5 Meaghan Francella 287 (-1)
>> T10 Angela Stanford 289 (+1)
>> T10 Lorena Ochoa 289 (+1)
>> T13 Sarah Lee 290 (+2)
>> 19 Moira Dunn 292 (+4)
>> T20 Cristie Kerr 293 (+5)
>> T20 Karrie Webb 293 (+5)
>> T20 Sherri Steinhauer 293 (+5)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
>> news:h4GdnUHcCYIuq4zbnZ2dnUVZ_vumnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Please don't be silly. Nobody chooses the lesser tours like the Futures
>>> or Nationwide. Either you got it and play with the big kids or spend
>>> time in the minor leagues trying to develop more of it.
>>>
>>> Pressel only asked for a few months wavier after she had graduated from
>>> high school. She earned a spot on the tour in the fall Q school,
>>> graduated from high school at mid-term, and wasn't turning 18 until May.
>>> The LPGA allowed her to start playing in February rather than waiting
>>> until May.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:k3bQh.1875$P21.251@news.cpqcorp.net...
>>>> Let's not get carried away here. Though it was a great win for her, ONE
>>>> WIN does not a career make. And it terms of "doing it right", there is
>>>> is NO ONE right way. She chose to ask the LPGA to waive the age limit
>>>> and joined at age 17. Others have chosen to get more seasoning in the
>>>> Futures tour and have been very successful transitioning to the LPGA.
>>>> As for your reference to the "circus act", you can call it anything you
>>>> want but she is laughing all the way to the back with Nike money.
>>>>
>>>> "George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
>>>> news:ffdb1fcedda6438451cc02e1be5ce688@mixmaster.it...
>>>>> Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't
>>>>> make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played
>>>>> without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first
>>>>> AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet
>>>>> while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go
>>>>> Morgan.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 18:39:42
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
You dumb ass when you posted they "choose" the Futures Tour.
"Others have chosen to get more seasoning in the Futures tour and have been
very successful transitioning to the LPGA."
"Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:ojgQh.1900$Sb1.717@news.cpqcorp.net...
> Regarding your comment that "nobody plays the Futures Tour by choice".
> First of all, you're belaboring the obvious and so that statement becomes
> just "noise". Secondly, when you make that statement who are you
> rebutting? Nobody on this thread has claimed that. If you read my post, I
> simply said that there are many routes to becoming a top-notch LPGA player
> and one of them is through the Futures tour.
>
> In short, please don't denigrate the Futures tour. You are doing a lot of
> disservice to players who honed their skill in that tour, and are now very
> successful players in the LPGA.
>
>
>
> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
> news:yeSdncs1l8TZxIzbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Yes, players have graduated from the Futures to the LPGA and done very
>> well, but nobody plays the Futures Tour by choice.
>>
>> "Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:vHbQh.1876$541.1261@news.cpqcorp.net...
>>> Top Duramed FUTURES Alumnae Finishes on the KNC, including on Lorena
>>> Ochoa. Last time I checked, she was the player of the year in 2006.
>>>
>>> T5 Stacy Prammanasudh 287 (-1)
>>> T5 Meaghan Francella 287 (-1)
>>> T10 Angela Stanford 289 (+1)
>>> T10 Lorena Ochoa 289 (+1)
>>> T13 Sarah Lee 290 (+2)
>>> 19 Moira Dunn 292 (+4)
>>> T20 Cristie Kerr 293 (+5)
>>> T20 Karrie Webb 293 (+5)
>>> T20 Sherri Steinhauer 293 (+5)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:h4GdnUHcCYIuq4zbnZ2dnUVZ_vumnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Please don't be silly. Nobody chooses the lesser tours like the Futures
>>>> or Nationwide. Either you got it and play with the big kids or spend
>>>> time in the minor leagues trying to develop more of it.
>>>>
>>>> Pressel only asked for a few months wavier after she had graduated from
>>>> high school. She earned a spot on the tour in the fall Q school,
>>>> graduated from high school at mid-term, and wasn't turning 18 until
>>>> May. The LPGA allowed her to start playing in February rather than
>>>> waiting until May.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:k3bQh.1875$P21.251@news.cpqcorp.net...
>>>>> Let's not get carried away here. Though it was a great win for her,
>>>>> ONE WIN does not a career make. And it terms of "doing it right",
>>>>> there is is NO ONE right way. She chose to ask the LPGA to waive the
>>>>> age limit and joined at age 17. Others have chosen to get more
>>>>> seasoning in the Futures tour and have been very successful
>>>>> transitioning to the LPGA. As for your reference to the "circus act",
>>>>> you can call it anything you want but she is laughing all the way to
>>>>> the back with Nike money.
>>>>>
>>>>> "George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ffdb1fcedda6438451cc02e1be5ce688@mixmaster.it...
>>>>>> Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't
>>>>>> make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played
>>>>>> without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first
>>>>>> AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet
>>>>>> while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to
>>>>>> go Morgan.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 14:56:49
From: Alex Neri
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
You literal-minded idiot. They "choose" to play in the Futures because
"top-five players from the Duramed FUTURES Tour money list automatically
gain exempt status on the LPGA Tour for the following year". This is one way
of qualifying for the LPGA aside from Q school. Nowhere did I imply that
their goal is to stay in the Futures for the rest of their life. By
definition, the Futures is a DEVELOPMENTAL TOUR FOR THE LPGA. In short, not
everyone can be a Morgan Pressel and win the US Ams, apply to the LPGA and
even get a waiver of the age limit.
So when you claim that no one would want to stay in the Futures. DAH!!!
HELLO!!! Were you trying to be profound? This statement was a non-sequitur
because it belabored the obvious. You may think you're smarter than everyone
else on this board but not all posters are dumb. Your reading skills and
perhaps your ability to read between the lines leaves much to be desired.
You've got a high handicap in these matters, no pun intended.
"sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote in message
news:taednfLMS-KtG4zbnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@comcast.com...
> You dumb ass when you posted they "choose" the Futures Tour.
>
> "Others have chosen to get more seasoning in the Futures tour and have
> been very successful transitioning to the LPGA."
>
> "Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ojgQh.1900$Sb1.717@news.cpqcorp.net...
>> Regarding your comment that "nobody plays the Futures Tour by choice".
>> First of all, you're belaboring the obvious and so that statement becomes
>> just "noise". Secondly, when you make that statement who are you
>> rebutting? Nobody on this thread has claimed that. If you read my post, I
>> simply said that there are many routes to becoming a top-notch LPGA
>> player and one of them is through the Futures tour.
>>
>> In short, please don't denigrate the Futures tour. You are doing a lot of
>> disservice to players who honed their skill in that tour, and are now
>> very successful players in the LPGA.
>>
>>
>>
>> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
>> news:yeSdncs1l8TZxIzbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Yes, players have graduated from the Futures to the LPGA and done very
>>> well, but nobody plays the Futures Tour by choice.
>>>
>>> "Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:vHbQh.1876$541.1261@news.cpqcorp.net...
>>>> Top Duramed FUTURES Alumnae Finishes on the KNC, including on Lorena
>>>> Ochoa. Last time I checked, she was the player of the year in 2006.
>>>>
>>>> T5 Stacy Prammanasudh 287 (-1)
>>>> T5 Meaghan Francella 287 (-1)
>>>> T10 Angela Stanford 289 (+1)
>>>> T10 Lorena Ochoa 289 (+1)
>>>> T13 Sarah Lee 290 (+2)
>>>> 19 Moira Dunn 292 (+4)
>>>> T20 Cristie Kerr 293 (+5)
>>>> T20 Karrie Webb 293 (+5)
>>>> T20 Sherri Steinhauer 293 (+5)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:h4GdnUHcCYIuq4zbnZ2dnUVZ_vumnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> Please don't be silly. Nobody chooses the lesser tours like the
>>>>> Futures or Nationwide. Either you got it and play with the big kids or
>>>>> spend time in the minor leagues trying to develop more of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pressel only asked for a few months wavier after she had graduated
>>>>> from high school. She earned a spot on the tour in the fall Q school,
>>>>> graduated from high school at mid-term, and wasn't turning 18 until
>>>>> May. The LPGA allowed her to start playing in February rather than
>>>>> waiting until May.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alex Neri" <alexn@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:k3bQh.1875$P21.251@news.cpqcorp.net...
>>>>>> Let's not get carried away here. Though it was a great win for her,
>>>>>> ONE WIN does not a career make. And it terms of "doing it right",
>>>>>> there is is NO ONE right way. She chose to ask the LPGA to waive the
>>>>>> age limit and joined at age 17. Others have chosen to get more
>>>>>> seasoning in the Futures tour and have been very successful
>>>>>> transitioning to the LPGA. As for your reference to the "circus act",
>>>>>> you can call it anything you want but she is laughing all the way to
>>>>>> the back with Nike money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ffdb1fcedda6438451cc02e1be5ce688@mixmaster.it...
>>>>>>> Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't
>>>>>>> make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played
>>>>>>> without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her
>>>>>>> first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own
>>>>>>> feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum.
>>>>>>> Way to go Morgan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 16:08:53
From: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
George Orwell wrote:
> Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
>
Don't knock michelle for turning pro too early. You're offered $15M you
gotta take it, even if it's bad for your game.
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 00:40:26
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
In article <pU9Qh.18853$tD2.10743@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net >
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> George Orwell wrote:
> > Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
> >
>
> Don't knock michelle for turning pro too early. You're offered $15M
I never knocked opportunity ah......knocking. Just play on your tour and win instead of being a circus act and continually losing on a tour you can't win on. (gosh, there's that circus act thing popping up again.)
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 07:17:58
From: EdSmithers
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
> You really believe that? Not everyone believes that Wie or anything
> about her is a "circus act". That's an opinion, not a statement of
> fact. There are negatives about Morgan as well, but I'm certainly not
> going to air them here.
You mean like she's a big whore? What's wrong with you, man? I can't
believe you said that.You take offense at a harmless comment about the
Michelle Wie family circus, but say that Morgan Pressel is a no-bra-
wearing whore who has had a series of romantic trysts with Fuzzy
Zoeller, Gary Player, Jim Colbert, and Fluff Cowan. I think you should
be ashamed of yourself, and I'm sending a copy of your remarks to the
Internet Police Academy 5, and to the moderator of this group, Miss
Anne Throat.
Ed
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 09:49:23
From: Zuke
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, George Orwell wrote:
> In article <yjYPh.7625$M.5273@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
> Colin Wilson <publish@removethis.kyneton.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>>> And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
>>>
>>> Congrats to her.
>>
>> Well done.
>>
>> But didn't the top 4 after the third round blow it!
>>
>> Se Ri Pak +5
>> Pettersen +2
>> Francella +2
>> Creamer +6
>>
>> Combined 15 over par.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Colin Wilson
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
>> Barnbougle Dunes: http://publishing.kyneton.net.au/barnbougle
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> And while they were blowing it, she shot 3 under....on Sunday. Tiger's competition does it all the time.
>
Not to detract but sounds like she was out well in front of the
closing groups. But still you have to play all of the holes.
I'm glad to see it.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 06:15:06
From: MMan
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
|
On Apr 1, 9:01 pm, "Bob" <J...@bin.net > wrote:
> "Colin Wilson" <publ...@removethis.kyneton.net.au> wrote in message
>
> news:yjYPh.7625$M.5273@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
> >> And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
>
> >> Congrats to her.
>
> > Well done.
>
> > But didn't the top 4 after the third round blow it!
>
> > Se Ri Pak +5
> > Pettersen +2
> > Francella +2
> > Creamer +6
>
> > Combined 15 over par.
>
> They folded under the pressure from an 18 year old! :-)
> Congrats to Morgan ...
Seconded.
(And after what happened what happened with Birdie Kim, she was due
for a little faltering by the opposition ...)
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 04:39:39
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Apr 1, 9:23 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it > wrote:
> In article <1175475119.163679.70...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
>
> a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > On Apr 1, 6:07 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
>
> > Yes, she has a lot of class. I'll bet she can even offer
> > congratulations to someone without simultaneously trashing someone
> > else.
>
> Just stating what she did and didn't do. No opinion, just statement of fact.
You really believe that? Not everyone believes that Wie or anything
about her is a "circus act". That's an opinion, not a statement of
fact. There are negatives about Morgan as well, but I'm certainly not
going to air them here. You obviously meant to slam Wie along with
congratulating Morgan. There is no "statement of facts" intent here.
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 00:25:17
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <1175513979.786731.105380@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >
"BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote:
>
> On Apr 1, 9:23 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > In article <1175475119.163679.70...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> >
> > a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Apr 1, 6:07 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > > Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
> >
> > > Yes, she has a lot of class. I'll bet she can even offer
> > > congratulations to someone without simultaneously trashing someone
> > > else.
> >
> > Just stating what she did and didn't do. No opinion, just statement of fact.
>
> You really believe that? Not everyone believes that Wie or anything
> about her is a "circus act". That's an opinion, not a statement of
> fact. There are negatives about Morgan as well, but I'm certainly not
> going to air them here. You obviously meant to slam Wie along with
> congratulating Morgan. There is no "statement of facts" intent here.
You're absolutely right. You were clever enough to read between the lines and find that reference to 'circus act' and piece together the true meaning of the da vinci code, hidden among the pyramids and encryptions of the Illuminati. Nice going. Oh, many have 'slammed Wie,' not just me and some of those are sports writers and actual golf professionals. Oh, woe is me, wie.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 22:55:48
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On 2-Apr-2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it > wrote:
> In article <1175513979.786731.105380@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
> "BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 1, 9:23 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > In article <1175475119.163679.70...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> > >
> > > a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Apr 1, 6:07 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > > > Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and
> > > > >didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and
> > > > >played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won,
> > > > >her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over
> > > > >her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad
> > > > >nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
> > >
> > > > Yes, she has a lot of class. I'll bet she can even offer
> > > > congratulations to someone without simultaneously trashing someone
> > > > else.
> > >
> > > Just stating what she did and didn't do. No opinion, just statement of
> > > fact.
> >
> > You really believe that? Not everyone believes that Wie or anything
> > about her is a "circus act". That's an opinion, not a statement of
> > fact. There are negatives about Morgan as well, but I'm certainly not
> > going to air them here. You obviously meant to slam Wie along with
> > congratulating Morgan. There is no "statement of facts" intent here.
>
> You're absolutely right. You were clever enough to read between the lines
> and find that reference to 'circus act' and piece together the true
> meaning of the da vinci code, hidden among the pyramids and encryptions of
> the Illuminati. Nice going. Oh, many have 'slammed Wie,' not just me and
> some of those are sports writers and actual golf professionals. Oh, woe is
> me, wie.
Do you always barf words when you get caught?
me
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 02:59:25
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <1PWdnYc_FKxwFIzbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@giganews.com >
"Sparky" <biff@funco.com > wrote:
>
>
> On 2-Apr-2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> > In article <1175513979.786731.105380@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
> > "BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Apr 1, 9:23 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > > In article <1175475119.163679.70...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> > > >
> > > > a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Apr 1, 6:07 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > > > > Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and
> > > > > >didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and
> > > > > >played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won,
> > > > > >her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over
> > > > > >her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad
> > > > > >nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, she has a lot of class. I'll bet she can even offer
> > > > > congratulations to someone without simultaneously trashing someone
> > > > > else.
> > > >
> > > > Just stating what she did and didn't do. No opinion, just statement of
> > > > fact.
> > >
> > > You really believe that? Not everyone believes that Wie or anything
> > > about her is a "circus act". That's an opinion, not a statement of
> > > fact. There are negatives about Morgan as well, but I'm certainly not
> > > going to air them here. You obviously meant to slam Wie along with
> > > congratulating Morgan. There is no "statement of facts" intent here.
> >
> > You're absolutely right. You were clever enough to read between the lines
> > and find that reference to 'circus act' and piece together the true
> > meaning of the da vinci code, hidden among the pyramids and encryptions of
> > the Illuminati. Nice going. Oh, many have 'slammed Wie,' not just me and
> > some of those are sports writers and actual golf professionals. Oh, woe is
> > me, wie.
>
> Do you always barf words when you get caught?
"Caught?" "Barf" Now those are opinionated responses if I ever heard. See, now you're caught too. I say what I want to say and if you don't like it, you may shove it, killfile it, or disagree. The only barf you might know is when you get close enough to someone to make them sick. There. Is that juvenile enough for you to get the picture of or should I come down a few notches more? How about, "I know you are but what am I?" Surely that will work for you. Run along now. Homework awaits barfboy.
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 00:05:49
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On 2-Apr-2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it > wrote:
> > Do you always barf words when you get caught?
>
> "Caught?" "Barf" Now those are opinionated responses if I ever heard. See,
> now you're caught too. I say what I want to say and if you don't like it,
> you may shove it, killfile it, or disagree. The only barf you might know
> is when you get close enough to someone to make them sick. There. Is that
> juvenile enough for you to get the picture of or should I come down a few
> notches more? How about, "I know you are but what am I?" Surely that will
> work for you. Run along now. Homework awaits barfboy.
I'll take that as a "yes".....
me
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 21:30:14
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <nbydnc9fv5NLdo_bnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@giganews.com >
"Sparky" <biff@funco.com > wrote:
>
>
> On 2-Apr-2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> > > Do you always barf words when you get caught?
> >
> > "Caught?" "Barf" Now those are opinionated responses if I ever heard. See,
> > now you're caught too. I say what I want to say and if you don't like it,
> > you may shove it, killfile it, or disagree. The only barf you might know
> > is when you get close enough to someone to make them sick. There. Is that
> > juvenile enough for you to get the picture of or should I come down a few
> > notches more? How about, "I know you are but what am I?" Surely that will
> > work for you. Run along now. Homework awaits barfboy.
>
> I'll take that as a "yes".....
>
>
>
> me
take it any way you want, including your usual, up the ass...sparkie.
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 03:12:25
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On 4-Apr-2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it > wrote:
> "Sparky" <biff@funco.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2-Apr-2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> >
> > > > Do you always barf words when you get caught?
> > >
> > > "Caught?" "Barf" Now those are opinionated responses if I ever heard.
> > > See,
> > > now you're caught too. I say what I want to say and if you don't like
> > > it,
> > > you may shove it, killfile it, or disagree. The only barf you might
> > > know
> > > is when you get close enough to someone to make them sick. There. Is
> > > that
> > > juvenile enough for you to get the picture of or should I come down a
> > > few
> > > notches more? How about, "I know you are but what am I?" Surely that
> > > will
> > > work for you. Run along now. Homework awaits barfboy.
> >
> > I'll take that as a "yes".....
> >
> >
> >
> > me
>
> take it any way you want, including your usual, up the ass...sparkie.
Any way I want eh? OK then, confirmation it is....
me
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 18:00:25
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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I liked 1984. Animal Farm was even better. Has George Orwell had an affect
on our dialoge about world politics, or what.
"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it > wrote in message
news:2ffa89c2d59097cc2f2d0f901ca369bb@mixmaster.it...
> In article <1PWdnYc_FKxwFIzbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@giganews.com>
> "Sparky" <biff@funco.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2-Apr-2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <1175513979.786731.105380@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
>> > "BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Apr 1, 9:23 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>> > > > In article <1175475119.163679.70...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
>> > > >
>> > > > a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Apr 1, 6:07 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>> > > > > > Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and
>> > > > > >didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour
>> > > > > >and
>> > > > > >played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then
>> > > > > >won,
>> > > > > >her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over
>> > > > > >her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad
>> > > > > >nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
>> > > >
>> > > > > Yes, she has a lot of class. I'll bet she can even offer
>> > > > > congratulations to someone without simultaneously trashing
>> > > > > someone
>> > > > > else.
>> > > >
>> > > > Just stating what she did and didn't do. No opinion, just statement
>> > > > of
>> > > > fact.
>> > >
>> > > You really believe that? Not everyone believes that Wie or anything
>> > > about her is a "circus act". That's an opinion, not a statement of
>> > > fact. There are negatives about Morgan as well, but I'm certainly not
>> > > going to air them here. You obviously meant to slam Wie along with
>> > > congratulating Morgan. There is no "statement of facts" intent here.
>> >
>> > You're absolutely right. You were clever enough to read between the
>> > lines
>> > and find that reference to 'circus act' and piece together the true
>> > meaning of the da vinci code, hidden among the pyramids and encryptions
>> > of
>> > the Illuminati. Nice going. Oh, many have 'slammed Wie,' not just me
>> > and
>> > some of those are sports writers and actual golf professionals. Oh, woe
>> > is
>> > me, wie.
>>
>> Do you always barf words when you get caught?
>
> "Caught?" "Barf" Now those are opinionated responses if I ever heard. See,
> now you're caught too. I say what I want to say and if you don't like it,
> you may shove it, killfile it, or disagree. The only barf you might know
> is when you get close enough to someone to make them sick. There. Is that
> juvenile enough for you to get the picture of or should I come down a few
> notches more? How about, "I know you are but what am I?" Surely that will
> work for you. Run along now. Homework awaits barfboy.
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Date: 01 Apr 2007 17:51:59
From:
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Apr 1, 6:07 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it > wrote:
> Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
Yes, she has a lot of class. I'll bet she can even offer
congratulations to someone without simultaneously trashing someone
else.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 03:23:19
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <1175475119.163679.70040@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >
a2mgoog@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> On Apr 1, 6:07 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
>
>
> Yes, she has a lot of class. I'll bet she can even offer
> congratulations to someone without simultaneously trashing someone
> else.
Just stating what she did and didn't do. No opinion, just statement of fact.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 03:56:20
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it > wrote in message
news:fc3a4190ff5a0d86406a09c403a7184d@mixmaster.it...
> In article <1175475119.163679.70040@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> a2mgoog@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 1, 6:07 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>> > Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't
>> > make excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played
>> > without being a circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first
>> > AND a major. All this and she didn't even stumble over her own feet
>> > while jogging or didn't use 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go
>> > Morgan.
>>
>>
>> Yes, she has a lot of class. I'll bet she can even offer
>> congratulations to someone without simultaneously trashing someone
>> else.
>
> Just stating what she did and didn't do. No opinion, just statement of
> fact.
Oooo Kaaaaeeee
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Date: 01 Apr 2007 19:20:34
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <ffdb1fcedda6438451cc02e1be5ce688@mixmaster.it >,
George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it > wrote:
> Came up through the ranks, played the amateur tournaments and didn't make
> excuses for missing them, came onto the LPGA tour and played without being a
> circus act on the men's tour, and then won, her first AND a major. All this
> and she didn't even stumble over her own feet while jogging or didn't use
> 'like' and 'awesome' ad nauseum. Way to go Morgan.
And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
Congrats to her.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 00:42:06
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
>
> Congrats to her.
Well done.
But didn't the top 4 after the third round blow it!
Se Ri Pak +5
Pettersen +2
Francella +2
Creamer +6
Combined 15 over par.
--
Cheers
Colin Wilson
------------------------------------------------------------------
Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
Barnbougle Dunes: http://publishing.kyneton.net.au/barnbougle
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 09:08:04
From: Loudon Briggs
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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Colin Wilson <publish@removethis.kyneton.net.au > wrote:
>Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
>>
>> Congrats to her.
>
>Well done.
>
>But didn't the top 4 after the third round blow it!
>
>Se Ri Pak +5
>Pettersen +2
>Francella +2
>Creamer +6
>
>Combined 15 over par.
and Pettersen's +2 was -2 starting the 15th... bogey, double bogey,
bogey, and missed a 25 footer on 18 to tie. Ouch!
--
Loudon R. Briggs larebe@bbz.net Phoenix, AZ
"How Can You Not Like A Game Where It's Okay To
Get Teed Off, Tote A Six-Iron, Shoot Birdies,
and If You're Under Par It's A Great Day!"
(from "Frank & Ernest" by Bob Thaves -- used with permission)
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Date: 01 Apr 2007 19:02:13
From: Tom Yost
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 00:42:06 GMT, Colin Wilson
<publish@removethis.kyneton.net.au > wrote:
>Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
>>
>> Congrats to her.
>
>Well done.
>
>But didn't the top 4 after the third round blow it!
>
>Se Ri Pak +5
>Pettersen +2
>Francella +2
>Creamer +6
>
>Combined 15 over par.
I think Petterson realized she was wearing a white shirt and didn't
want to have to jump in the lake.
Tom
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 05:24:09
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <2vo013l6kksdtlnh86mo59oob4ld6gl0m1@4ax.com >
Tom Yost <tom@bloodyvikings.com > wrote:
>
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 00:42:06 GMT, Colin Wilson
> <publish@removethis.kyneton.net.au> wrote:
>
> >Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >
> >> And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
> >>
> >> Congrats to her.
> >
> >Well done.
> >
> >But didn't the top 4 after the third round blow it!
> >
> >Se Ri Pak +5
> >Pettersen +2
> >Francella +2
> >Creamer +6
> >
> >Combined 15 over par.
>
>
> I think Petterson realized she was wearing a white shirt and didn't
> want to have to jump in the lake.
:-)))
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 03:07:58
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <yjYPh.7625$M.5273@news-server.bigpond.net.au >
Colin Wilson <publish@removethis.kyneton.net.au > wrote:
>
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
> > And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
> >
> > Congrats to her.
>
> Well done.
>
> But didn't the top 4 after the third round blow it!
>
> Se Ri Pak +5
> Pettersen +2
> Francella +2
> Creamer +6
>
> Combined 15 over par.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Colin Wilson
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
> Barnbougle Dunes: http://publishing.kyneton.net.au/barnbougle
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
And while they were blowing it, she shot 3 under....on Sunday. Tiger's competition does it all the time.
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Date: 01 Apr 2007 20:02:24
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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In article <yjYPh.7625$M.5273@news-server.bigpond.net.au >,
Colin Wilson <publish@removethis.kyneton.net.au > wrote:
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
> > And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
> >
> > Congrats to her.
>
> Well done.
>
> But didn't the top 4 after the third round blow it!
>
> Se Ri Pak +5
> Pettersen +2
> Francella +2
> Creamer +6
>
> Combined 15 over par.
Ain't it the truth!
But that doesn't take away from her bogey free 69 in the last round.
She held it together, played solid golf and didn't melt down when the
pressure was on.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 01:01:54
From: Bob
Subject: Re: Pressel Does It Right
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"Colin Wilson" <publish@removethis.kyneton.net.au > wrote in message
news:yjYPh.7625$M.5273@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> And with this win she became the youngest ever to win an LPGA major!
>>
>> Congrats to her.
>
> Well done.
>
> But didn't the top 4 after the third round blow it!
>
> Se Ri Pak +5
> Pettersen +2
> Francella +2
> Creamer +6
>
> Combined 15 over par.
>
They folded under the pressure from an 18 year old! :-)
Congrats to Morgan ...
Bob
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