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Date: 09 Feb 2007 06:20:00
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Subject: Prepare yourself for your best season ever. I am!
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Did you know that your muscles and joints don't really understand
spoken language?
Can you hear yourself incessantly telling your body what to do during
your golf swing?
Well done for that, now ask yourself the following:
Do you give commands to your leg muscles and joints when you are
walking or running?
Do you vocally instruct your arms, hands and fingers when you are
typing or writing a letter?
With this in mind, do you think you can tell your body with words, how
to swing?
Try this... Consciously make your hand open and close.
Easy, right?
Now grip your upper forearm with the other hand and repeat this
opening and closing.
Can you find words which would explain what the muscles in your
forearm are doing and can you direct these reflexive muscles to move
differently?
Therefore, it can be argued that the body must be conditioned to move
subconsciously or reflexively during the swing.
Our muscles and joints must be trusted to find the most powerful and
economical swing dynamics for themselves.
In reality, by doing so you can learn to master your own golf swing.
And I would love to help you get started.
Quite soon, you are going to be swinging much smoother. Perhaps the
very smoothest you have ever swung.
You must, however, totally agree with and trust the theory that I have
explained above.
Awrabest
S.MacD.
P.S. More on this later.
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Date: 11 Feb 2007 10:03:04
From:
Subject: Re: Prepare yourself for your best season ever. I am!
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On Feb 11, 5:22 pm, Zuke <m...@privacy.net > wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, pmch...@online.de wrote:
> > On Feb 10, 1:42 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
> >> On 9 Feb 2007 06:20:00 -0800, pmch...@online.de wrote:
>
> >>> You must, however, totally agree with and trust the theory that I have
> >>> explained above.
>
> >> Ahh, faith based golf.
>
> > Howard your one liners don't really deserve a reply but I am trying to
> > enlighten you to the future of great golf coaching and learning.
>
> What your handicap O, wise one? The best thing for the golf game
> is a divorce.
My dearest Zuke,
Are you a good cook?
or would you make me puke?
I also wonder how you look,
I bet you ruin the family album book.
Awrabest
S.MacD.
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Date: 11 Feb 2007 11:22:55
From: Zuke
Subject: Re: Prepare yourself for your best season ever. I am!
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> On Feb 10, 1:42 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>> On 9 Feb 2007 06:20:00 -0800, pmch...@online.de wrote:
>>
>>> You must, however, totally agree with and trust the theory that I have
>>> explained above.
>>
>> Ahh, faith based golf.
>
> Howard your one liners don't really deserve a reply but I am trying to
> enlighten you to the future of great golf coaching and learning.
What your handicap O, wise one? The best thing for the golf game
is a divorce.
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Date: 11 Feb 2007 03:38:40
From:
Subject: Re: Prepare yourself for your best season ever. I am!
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Hi John,
I'll send you a used golf tee that should easily cover it.
No need to thank me!
LoL
S.MacD.
On Feb 10, 4:16 pm, John Reddy <johnre...@contbuilding.com > wrote:
> I want the two minutes of my life back that it took me to wade through
> all that crap.
>
> In article <1171109035.948567.155...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> pmch...@online.de wrote:
> > On Feb 10, 1:42 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
> > > On 9 Feb 2007 06:20:00 -0800, pmch...@online.de wrote:
>
> > > >You must, however, totally agree with and trust the theory that I have
> > > >explained above.
>
> > > Ahh, faith based golf.
>
> > Howard your one liners don't really deserve a reply but I am trying to
> > enlighten you to the future of great golf coaching and learning.
>
> > Ster posters than you replied to the same thread with a little more
> > respect for my article. (see below)
>
> > >> I agree with a lot of what you say, I believe it's the progressive theory
> > >> of a golfer starting out as: UNCONSCIOUSLY INCOMPOTENT then CONSCIOUSLY
> > >> INCOMPETENT then UNCONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT. Which is where we all want to be
> > >> as golfers.
>
> > However, golf is more than psychobabble, even if a lot of it makes
> > sense. You have to learn the game first. You can't just play the
> > piano, you have to learn how to play it first. Playing a piano well is
> > hard, just like playing golf well is hard. That's where the likes of
> > Bob Rotella's psychobabble falls down, it's only any good if you can
> > swing a club well in the first place.
>
> > S.G.<<
>
> > >>I have recently taken an interest in the mental side of the game. Agree
> > >>with your point entirely.
> > I've also heard it explained in this way:
> > Playing a shot should be done entirely by the sub-conscious and muscle
> > memory.
> > If your conscious mind is saying "swing back wide, roll open the
> > wrists, and hinge now, and keep hinging, and feel the tension
> > build...blah blah" (and we haven't even finished the back-swing yet!!)
> > then you are sunk.
> > At address you must know you have the right club and are set up (aimed
> > correctly etc). Everything else and after is subconscious.
> > Have seen some ideas on how to tie up your conscious mind and keep it
> > from interferring. E.g. counting cadence through the points of the
> > swing. The one that works for me is simply "Swing, Swing". I.e. I say
> > one when I swing back, one when I swing forward. Keeps my conscious
> > mind occupied and thus not interferring.
>
> > A.W.<<
>
> > Howard, here's my reply to them from which you can learn something,
> > perhaps to expand on your one liners:
>
> > >>Hello AW, hello SG,
>
> > Thanks for the in-tune feedback, I enjoyed your comments.
>
> > AG, you've already been practicing the art of keeping the conscious
> > mind out of the swing mechanics with your swing-swing recital.
>
> > Have you managed to read any of the books that I promote on my
> > website?
>
> > I would certainly point out Timothy Gallwey's "The Inner Game of Golf"
> > which beautifully explains mindless golf.
>
> > SG, I just love your, "UNCONSCIOUSLY INCOMPOTENT then CONSCIOUSLY
> > INCOMPETENT then UNCONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT". Did you read that
> > somewhere, I am sure I haven't come accross it before.
>
> > As you say there is much wisdom in what Rotella writes but there seems
> > to be a missing link between practicle and psychological learning.
>
> > I am personally swayed towards the theory that at least 90% of any
> > sport should be learned by trial and error. A coach should direct the
> > novice with questions rather than commands and explanations.
>
> > For example, the tight rope walker would benefit from a question like,
> > "What can you do with your arms to improve your balance?"
>
> > On the other hand, if the same coach decided instead to precisely
> > explain what counter movements the arms should make to achieve better
> > balance, he could be there for a long time.
>
> > I feel modern golf instruction uses the second example too often and
> > as AG states,
>
> > "If your conscious mind is saying "swing back wide, roll open the
> > wrists, and hinge now, and keep hinging, and feel the tension
> > build...blah blah" (and we haven't even finished the back-swing yet!!)
> > then you are sunk.
>
> > This golfer believes that his muscles understand voice commands and
> > forgets that neural connectors link directly to the subconscious.
>
> > I discussed this in the hand opening and closing exercise.
>
> > So, SG, I say,
>
> > "Learn golf by trial and error and find a coach who asks super
> > awareness questions thus activating your prehistorically refined
> > neural connectors."
>
> > Thanks again to both of you.
>
> > Awrabest
>
> > S.MacD. <<
>
> > So Howard my advice to you is this:
>
> > It's nice to be nice!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Date: 10 Feb 2007 10:17:13
From:
Subject: Re: Prepare yourself for your best season ever. I am!
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On Feb 10, 4:16 pm, John Reddy <johnre...@contbuilding.com > wrote:
> I want the two minutes of my life back that it took me to wade through
> all that crap.
>
> In article <1171109035.948567.155...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> pmch...@online.de wrote:
> > On Feb 10, 1:42 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
> > > On 9 Feb 2007 06:20:00 -0800, pmch...@online.de wrote:
>
> > > >You must, however, totally agree with and trust the theory that I have
> > > >explained above.
>
> > > Ahh, faith based golf.
>
> > Howard your one liners don't really deserve a reply but I am trying to
> > enlighten you to the future of great golf coaching and learning.
>
> > Ster posters than you replied to the same thread with a little more
> > respect for my article. (see below)
>
> > >> I agree with a lot of what you say, I believe it's the progressive theory
> > >> of a golfer starting out as: UNCONSCIOUSLY INCOMPOTENT then CONSCIOUSLY
> > >> INCOMPETENT then UNCONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT. Which is where we all want to be
> > >> as golfers.
>
> > However, golf is more than psychobabble, even if a lot of it makes
> > sense. You have to learn the game first. You can't just play the
> > piano, you have to learn how to play it first. Playing a piano well is
> > hard, just like playing golf well is hard. That's where the likes of
> > Bob Rotella's psychobabble falls down, it's only any good if you can
> > swing a club well in the first place.
>
> > S.G.<<
>
> > >>I have recently taken an interest in the mental side of the game. Agree
> > >>with your point entirely.
> > I've also heard it explained in this way:
> > Playing a shot should be done entirely by the sub-conscious and muscle
> > memory.
> > If your conscious mind is saying "swing back wide, roll open the
> > wrists, and hinge now, and keep hinging, and feel the tension
> > build...blah blah" (and we haven't even finished the back-swing yet!!)
> > then you are sunk.
> > At address you must know you have the right club and are set up (aimed
> > correctly etc). Everything else and after is subconscious.
> > Have seen some ideas on how to tie up your conscious mind and keep it
> > from interferring. E.g. counting cadence through the points of the
> > swing. The one that works for me is simply "Swing, Swing". I.e. I say
> > one when I swing back, one when I swing forward. Keeps my conscious
> > mind occupied and thus not interferring.
>
> > A.W.<<
>
> > Howard, here's my reply to them from which you can learn something,
> > perhaps to expand on your one liners:
>
> > >>Hello AW, hello SG,
>
> > Thanks for the in-tune feedback, I enjoyed your comments.
>
> > AG, you've already been practicing the art of keeping the conscious
> > mind out of the swing mechanics with your swing-swing recital.
>
> > Have you managed to read any of the books that I promote on my
> > website?
>
> > I would certainly point out Timothy Gallwey's "The Inner Game of Golf"
> > which beautifully explains mindless golf.
>
> > SG, I just love your, "UNCONSCIOUSLY INCOMPOTENT then CONSCIOUSLY
> > INCOMPETENT then UNCONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT". Did you read that
> > somewhere, I am sure I haven't come accross it before.
>
> > As you say there is much wisdom in what Rotella writes but there seems
> > to be a missing link between practicle and psychological learning.
>
> > I am personally swayed towards the theory that at least 90% of any
> > sport should be learned by trial and error. A coach should direct the
> > novice with questions rather than commands and explanations.
>
> > For example, the tight rope walker would benefit from a question like,
> > "What can you do with your arms to improve your balance?"
>
> > On the other hand, if the same coach decided instead to precisely
> > explain what counter movements the arms should make to achieve better
> > balance, he could be there for a long time.
>
> > I feel modern golf instruction uses the second example too often and
> > as AG states,
>
> > "If your conscious mind is saying "swing back wide, roll open the
> > wrists, and hinge now, and keep hinging, and feel the tension
> > build...blah blah" (and we haven't even finished the back-swing yet!!)
> > then you are sunk.
>
> > This golfer believes that his muscles understand voice commands and
> > forgets that neural connectors link directly to the subconscious.
>
> > I discussed this in the hand opening and closing exercise.
>
> > So, SG, I say,
>
> > "Learn golf by trial and error and find a coach who asks super
> > awareness questions thus activating your prehistorically refined
> > neural connectors."
>
> > Thanks again to both of you.
>
> > Awrabest
>
> > S.MacD. <<
>
> > So Howard my advice to you is this:
>
> > It's nice to be nice!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hi John (toilet?),
I'll send you a used golf tee that should easily cover it.
No need to thank me!
LoL
S.MacD.
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Date: 10 Feb 2007 04:03:56
From:
Subject: Re: Prepare yourself for your best season ever. I am!
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On Feb 10, 1:42 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net > wrote:
> On 9 Feb 2007 06:20:00 -0800, pmch...@online.de wrote:
>
> >You must, however, totally agree with and trust the theory that I have
> >explained above.
>
> Ahh, faith based golf.
Howard your one liners don't really deserve a reply but I am trying to
enlighten you to the future of great golf coaching and learning.
Ster posters than you replied to the same thread with a little more
respect for my article. (see below)
>> I agree with a lot of what you say, I believe it's the progressive theory of a golfer starting out as: UNCONSCIOUSLY INCOMPOTENT then CONSCIOUSLY INCOMPETENT then UNCONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT. Which is where we all want to be as golfers.
However, golf is more than psychobabble, even if a lot of it makes
sense. You have to learn the game first. You can't just play the
piano, you have to learn how to play it first. Playing a piano well is
hard, just like playing golf well is hard. That's where the likes of
Bob Rotella's psychobabble falls down, it's only any good if you can
swing a club well in the first place.
S.G.<<
>>I have recently taken an interest in the mental side of the game. Agree with your point entirely.
I've also heard it explained in this way:
Playing a shot should be done entirely by the sub-conscious and muscle
memory.
If your conscious mind is saying "swing back wide, roll open the
wrists, and hinge now, and keep hinging, and feel the tension
build...blah blah" (and we haven't even finished the back-swing yet!!)
then you are sunk.
At address you must know you have the right club and are set up (aimed
correctly etc). Everything else and after is subconscious.
Have seen some ideas on how to tie up your conscious mind and keep it
from interferring. E.g. counting cadence through the points of the
swing. The one that works for me is simply "Swing, Swing". I.e. I say
one when I swing back, one when I swing forward. Keeps my conscious
mind occupied and thus not interferring.
A.W.<<
Howard, here's my reply to them from which you can learn something,
perhaps to expand on your one liners:
>>Hello AW, hello SG,
Thanks for the in-tune feedback, I enjoyed your comments.
AG, you've already been practicing the art of keeping the conscious
mind out of the swing mechanics with your swing-swing recital.
Have you managed to read any of the books that I promote on my
website?
I would certainly point out Timothy Gallwey's "The Inner Game of Golf"
which beautifully explains mindless golf.
SG, I just love your, "UNCONSCIOUSLY INCOMPOTENT then CONSCIOUSLY
INCOMPETENT then UNCONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT". Did you read that
somewhere, I am sure I haven't come accross it before.
As you say there is much wisdom in what Rotella writes but there seems
to be a missing link between practicle and psychological learning.
I am personally swayed towards the theory that at least 90% of any
sport should be learned by trial and error. A coach should direct the
novice with questions rather than commands and explanations.
For example, the tight rope walker would benefit from a question like,
"What can you do with your arms to improve your balance?"
On the other hand, if the same coach decided instead to precisely
explain what counter movements the arms should make to achieve better
balance, he could be there for a long time.
I feel modern golf instruction uses the second example too often and
as AG states,
"If your conscious mind is saying "swing back wide, roll open the
wrists, and hinge now, and keep hinging, and feel the tension
build...blah blah" (and we haven't even finished the back-swing yet!!)
then you are sunk.
This golfer believes that his muscles understand voice commands and
forgets that neural connectors link directly to the subconscious.
I discussed this in the hand opening and closing exercise.
So, SG, I say,
"Learn golf by trial and error and find a coach who asks super
awareness questions thus activating your prehistorically refined
neural connectors."
Thanks again to both of you.
Awrabest
S.MacD. <<
So Howard my advice to you is this:
It's nice to be nice!
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Date: 10 Feb 2007 15:16:28
From: John Reddy
Subject: Re: Prepare yourself for your best season ever. I am!
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I want the two minutes of my life back that it took me to wade through
all that crap.
In article <1171109035.948567.155790@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> On Feb 10, 1:42 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
> > On 9 Feb 2007 06:20:00 -0800, pmch...@online.de wrote:
> >
> > >You must, however, totally agree with and trust the theory that I have
> > >explained above.
> >
> > Ahh, faith based golf.
>
> Howard your one liners don't really deserve a reply but I am trying to
> enlighten you to the future of great golf coaching and learning.
>
> Ster posters than you replied to the same thread with a little more
> respect for my article. (see below)
>
> >> I agree with a lot of what you say, I believe it's the progressive theory
> >> of a golfer starting out as: UNCONSCIOUSLY INCOMPOTENT then CONSCIOUSLY
> >> INCOMPETENT then UNCONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT. Which is where we all want to be
> >> as golfers.
>
> However, golf is more than psychobabble, even if a lot of it makes
> sense. You have to learn the game first. You can't just play the
> piano, you have to learn how to play it first. Playing a piano well is
> hard, just like playing golf well is hard. That's where the likes of
> Bob Rotella's psychobabble falls down, it's only any good if you can
> swing a club well in the first place.
>
> S.G.<<
>
> >>I have recently taken an interest in the mental side of the game. Agree
> >>with your point entirely.
> I've also heard it explained in this way:
> Playing a shot should be done entirely by the sub-conscious and muscle
> memory.
> If your conscious mind is saying "swing back wide, roll open the
> wrists, and hinge now, and keep hinging, and feel the tension
> build...blah blah" (and we haven't even finished the back-swing yet!!)
> then you are sunk.
> At address you must know you have the right club and are set up (aimed
> correctly etc). Everything else and after is subconscious.
> Have seen some ideas on how to tie up your conscious mind and keep it
> from interferring. E.g. counting cadence through the points of the
> swing. The one that works for me is simply "Swing, Swing". I.e. I say
> one when I swing back, one when I swing forward. Keeps my conscious
> mind occupied and thus not interferring.
>
> A.W.<<
>
> Howard, here's my reply to them from which you can learn something,
> perhaps to expand on your one liners:
>
> >>Hello AW, hello SG,
>
> Thanks for the in-tune feedback, I enjoyed your comments.
>
> AG, you've already been practicing the art of keeping the conscious
> mind out of the swing mechanics with your swing-swing recital.
>
> Have you managed to read any of the books that I promote on my
> website?
>
> I would certainly point out Timothy Gallwey's "The Inner Game of Golf"
> which beautifully explains mindless golf.
>
> SG, I just love your, "UNCONSCIOUSLY INCOMPOTENT then CONSCIOUSLY
> INCOMPETENT then UNCONSCIOUSLY COMPETENT". Did you read that
> somewhere, I am sure I haven't come accross it before.
>
> As you say there is much wisdom in what Rotella writes but there seems
> to be a missing link between practicle and psychological learning.
>
> I am personally swayed towards the theory that at least 90% of any
> sport should be learned by trial and error. A coach should direct the
> novice with questions rather than commands and explanations.
>
> For example, the tight rope walker would benefit from a question like,
> "What can you do with your arms to improve your balance?"
>
> On the other hand, if the same coach decided instead to precisely
> explain what counter movements the arms should make to achieve better
> balance, he could be there for a long time.
>
> I feel modern golf instruction uses the second example too often and
> as AG states,
>
> "If your conscious mind is saying "swing back wide, roll open the
> wrists, and hinge now, and keep hinging, and feel the tension
> build...blah blah" (and we haven't even finished the back-swing yet!!)
> then you are sunk.
>
> This golfer believes that his muscles understand voice commands and
> forgets that neural connectors link directly to the subconscious.
>
> I discussed this in the hand opening and closing exercise.
>
> So, SG, I say,
>
> "Learn golf by trial and error and find a coach who asks super
> awareness questions thus activating your prehistorically refined
> neural connectors."
>
> Thanks again to both of you.
>
> Awrabest
>
> S.MacD. <<
>
> So Howard my advice to you is this:
>
> It's nice to be nice!
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Date: 10 Feb 2007 00:42:41
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Prepare yourself for your best season ever. I am!
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On 9 Feb 2007 06:20:00 -0800, pmchugh@online.de wrote:
>You must, however, totally agree with and trust the theory that I have
>explained above.
Ahh, faith based golf.
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