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Date: 13 Feb 2007 20:29:04
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Subject: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/columns/story?columnist=verdi_bob&id=2756572
I was relatively certain there would be no comments about this story
in the group. Only the usual put-downs and a ridiculous thread about
Phil's kids on the 18th green at Pebble. What would cause more damage?
An infant child (30 to 50 lbs) running to her daddy or hundreds of
golfers (150 to 250 lbs) tromping on the green wearing spikes?
I can only imagine how the sycophants in the media and the star-struck
hero-worshipers in this group would be doing back flips if Tiger made
such a generous commitment from his own pocket. Never happen with
Tiger. Just ask the dealers and cocktail waitresses at the Rio in
LasVegas.
I have first hand knowledge that Phil left a $10K tip for the locker
room staff at Colonial when he won there.
When Phil's lawyer was asked by Conrad Dobler why Phil was helping the
Dobler family in such a spectacular waym the answer was "Because he
can.". Phil Mickelson is a generous man by nature and by inclination.
And it is not done as a show. He declined comment on the story at a
recent tournament news conference.
God bless Phil and his family. Our country and our world need more
like him.
Best regards to my friends in RSG. Reports of my demise have been
greatly exaggerated. I am working in the DFW area if anyone who can
stand my company would like to play. FWIW, my game is not what it used
to be. But I still would enjoy a game.
YMMV
Ken
ken_pittsjr@yahoo.com
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Date: 20 Feb 2007 10:58:36
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 20, 12:34 pm, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net > wrote:
> No, it was "Goddamn you fucking prick!" The words goddamn,
> fucking, and prick are impossible to miss.
Exactly. I hear that all the time - I would know.
> "Dan Jenkins, the renowned golf writer, now refers to it as "The
> Goddam you fucking prick Open"."
I wonder if Ken hate this guy, too?
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Date: 20 Feb 2007 07:49:11
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 20, 12:10 am, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net > wrote:
> In article
> <1171821464.106675.156...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
>
> "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Screaming "Gddmn fckng prck!" live on ABC at the 2000 US Open.
>
> > If you're gonna cite him for behavior, get it right Old Timer, it was
> > "Goddamn you Tiger, FUCK!"
>
> No, it was "Goddam you fucking prick." Or words very close to
> that. Hard to miss, and they replayed it on tape.
Yes, and the words very close to that were "Goddamn you Tiger, FUCK!"
And who replayed it, HBO? Def Comedy Jam? I can hear Johnny Miller
now: "Roger, did he just say what I think he said? Kids, in case you
missed it, here's Tiger on 18 at Pebble cursing like a drunken sailor
with tourettes...roll it, boys."
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Date: 20 Feb 2007 10:34:53
From: The World Wide Wade
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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In article
<1171986551.753549.150400@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 20, 12:10 am, The World Wide Wade
> <waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <1171821464.106675.156...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Screaming "Gddmn fckng prck!" live on ABC at the 2000 US Open.
> >
> > > If you're gonna cite him for behavior, get it right Old Timer, it was
> > > "Goddamn you Tiger, FUCK!"
> >
> > No, it was "Goddam you fucking prick." Or words very close to
> > that. Hard to miss, and they replayed it on tape.
>
> Yes, and the words very close to that were "Goddamn you Tiger, FUCK!"
No, it was "Goddamn you fucking prick!" The words goddamn,
fucking, and prick are impossible to miss.
> And who replayed it, HBO? Def Comedy Jam? I can hear Johnny Miller
> now: "Roger, did he just say what I think he said? Kids, in case you
> missed it, here's Tiger on 18 at Pebble cursing like a drunken sailor
> with tourettes...roll it, boys."
I missed it live, and saw an early replay. Later replays had it
deleted.
"Dan Jenkins, the renowned golf writer, now refers to it as "The
Goddam you fucking prick Open"."
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/sport.cfm?id=634892003
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Date: 19 Feb 2007 19:29:29
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 18, 6:57 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Tell me something, eh? How am I a hypocrite? Tiger should act like a
> gentleman when he is supposedly the leading proponent of a gentleman's
> sport. How am I a hypocrite because I think he shouuld keep his temper
> and his mouth in check?
Those are your standards, not Tiger's. If you want to judge Tiger by
his language I'm sure he could give a rat's ass. Championships are
all he cares about. Like Barkley before him, he isn't trying to be
your kid's role model.
If I ask you about Michael Jordan you might say he is the best
basketball player ever. You probably wouldn't even mention his
gambling addictions or how he whores around with the ladies.
If I ask you about Arnold Palmer do you mention that he liked the
booze and had a woman in every port? No, you just say he was The King
and brought the game of golf to the masses.
But if I ask you about Tiger Woods, the greatest golfer of them all,
all I hear about is how he's a poor tipper with a foul mouth. Other
foul-mouthed golfers like Fred Couples and Curtis Strange get a free
pass.
When Tiger retires someday with his 100+ wins and his 25 Majors,
you'll be sitting by your fireplace in your rocker with your blanket
on your lap, snarling, "Bah, cussed too much! Never liked him. Never
be a Nicklaus.
My soup's cold!"
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Date: 19 Feb 2007 20:56:02
From: glfnaz
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1171942169.324506.204980@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 18, 6:57 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Tell me something, eh? How am I a hypocrite? Tiger should act like a
>> gentleman when he is supposedly the leading proponent of a gentleman's
>> sport. How am I a hypocrite because I think he shouuld keep his temper
>> and his mouth in check?
>
> Those are your standards, not Tiger's. If you want to judge Tiger by
> his language I'm sure he could give a rat's ass. Championships are
> all he cares about. Like Barkley before him, he isn't trying to be
> your kid's role model.
>
> If I ask you about Michael Jordan you might say he is the best
> basketball player ever. You probably wouldn't even mention his
> gambling addictions or how he whores around with the ladies.
>
> If I ask you about Arnold Palmer do you mention that he liked the
> booze and had a woman in every port? No, you just say he was The King
> and brought the game of golf to the masses.
>
> But if I ask you about Tiger Woods, the greatest golfer of them all,
> all I hear about is how he's a poor tipper with a foul mouth. Other
> foul-mouthed golfers like Fred Couples and Curtis Strange get a free
> pass.
>
> When Tiger retires someday with his 100+ wins and his 25 Majors,
> you'll be sitting by your fireplace in your rocker with your blanket
> on your lap, snarling, "Bah, cussed too much! Never liked him. Never
> be a Nicklaus.
> My soup's cold!"
Get your facts straight.
Palmer had 2 in every town.
And...Trevino's ice never melted before he got up for his tee time.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 20:14:01
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 18, 9:44 pm, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com > wrote:
> True. If you're busting Tiger's balls, then there are a lot more that
> need to be busted. I doubt he's in the top 1000 in the country in net
> worth.
Wow - I thought this damn near impossible with his winnings,
endorsements, appearance fees, investments (not the least of which was
getting in as an angel on Google), but apparently his net worth is
somewhere in the $350 - $400m range. I can't find anything on the top
1000, but he's definitely not on the Forbes 400...
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 19:48:02
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 15, 10:37 am, WilsonJack <WilsonJ...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> WTF?
>
> Only assholes left in this group?
Yes, and you certainly are welcome! :-)
Otoh, we're talking golf at least.....well kinda.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 19:44:58
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 18, 1:24 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com > wrote:
> On Feb 17, 6:09 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_48/b3860605.htm
>
> > I'll be impressed when Tiger makes a list like this. Notice these
> > people are giving significant portions of their net worth. Bill Gates
> > is a giant of philanthropy. Tiger has some hefty checks to write to
> > get in that league.
>
> Yeah, especially since the 50th person on that list donated $95
> million.
> Tiger's career earnings are only $66 Million, not counting
> endorsements.
> What percentage of his income would be acceptable for you?
True. If you're busting Tiger's balls, then there are a lot more that
need to be busted. I doubt he's in the top 1000 in the country in net
worth.
Someone like Shaq or Charles Barkley said that while it was true that
they are rich, the owners that pay them are wealthy. Athletes, even
the great ones like Tiger, MJ, etc, don't come close.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 15:57:58
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Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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In Alan Baker's world:
It's OK for the most celebrated golfer ever to abuse courses at
majors, curse like a drunken sailor on national TV (even though it
violates every broadcasting standard known to man) and generally show
his ass week after week. And if anyone dares to question his behavior,
he gets attacked personally and called a crybaby.
Tell me something, eh? How am I a hypocrite? Tiger should act like a
gentleman when he is supposedly the leading proponent of a gentleman's
sport. How am I a hypocrite because I think he shouuld keep his temper
and his mouth in check?
You have done nothing but attack me for years. You lied about me WRT
supposdly "helicoptering" a putter. I don't get it. Are you Tiger's
gay lover or something. I don"t get it
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 18, 2:51 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> In article <1171838558.923685.286...@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hey dipshit, has Fred been annointed the "savior of golf"? Showered
> > with millions of dollars for just showing up and making a few
> > commercials? And all the rest? Not to mention the mindless adulation.
> > He should act the part of champ instead of a crybaby chump.
>
> > Thought not my ass................
>
> > Once again, I have never said that Tiger is the only one. But, given
> > his position, he should be a shining example for the game of golf, not
> > a reason for excuse-making.
>
> > Now, go play in traffic like you ought to. Don't like it? Sue me. See
> > you in court.
>
> Good god, but your a baby.
>
> You whine and whine about Tiger Woods, but if someone comes along and
> points out what a huge hypocrite you are, you go ballistic.
>
> Here's the deal, Ken:
>
> You get to whine about Tiger -- I get to point out that your a whining
> crybaby.
>
> Don't like it? Sue me.
>
>
>
> > Ken
>
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > On Feb 18, 1:49 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > > But can we expect you to now mention Freddie's outbursts every time you
> > > go on (and you *do* go on) about Tiger?
>
> > > Thought not.
>
> --
> "The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
> "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
> the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 19 Feb 2007 00:14:05
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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In article <1171843078.142433.60670@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com >,
kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> In Alan Baker's world:
>
> It's OK for the most celebrated golfer ever to abuse courses at
> majors, curse like a drunken sailor on national TV (even though it
> violates every broadcasting standard known to man) and generally show
> his ass week after week. And if anyone dares to question his behavior,
> he gets attacked personally and called a crybaby.
Wrong. You got called a crybaby for whining when someone pointed out
your obsession with Tiger.
And yes, at one point Freddie was anointed as the "next one".
>
> Tell me something, eh? How am I a hypocrite? Tiger should act like a
> gentleman when he is supposedly the leading proponent of a gentleman's
> sport. How am I a hypocrite because I think he shouuld keep his temper
> and his mouth in check?
How are you a hypocrite? That's simple:
You promised not to talk about Tiger Woods any more.
I guess in Ken Pitts' world, it's OK to break your word.
>
> You have done nothing but attack me for years. You lied about me WRT
> supposdly "helicoptering" a putter. I don't get it. Are you Tiger's
> gay lover or something. I don"t get it
Do you want to get personal, Ken? Is that your level of maturity:
juvenile homosexual references?
You're a crybaby -- a whiner. And that's the simple truth.
>
>
> Ken
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> On Feb 18, 2:51 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <1171838558.923685.286...@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Hey dipshit, has Fred been annointed the "savior of golf"? Showered
> > > with millions of dollars for just showing up and making a few
> > > commercials? And all the rest? Not to mention the mindless adulation.
> > > He should act the part of champ instead of a crybaby chump.
> >
> > > Thought not my ass................
> >
> > > Once again, I have never said that Tiger is the only one. But, given
> > > his position, he should be a shining example for the game of golf, not
> > > a reason for excuse-making.
> >
> > > Now, go play in traffic like you ought to. Don't like it? Sue me. See
> > > you in court.
> >
> > Good god, but your a baby.
> >
> > You whine and whine about Tiger Woods, but if someone comes along and
> > points out what a huge hypocrite you are, you go ballistic.
> >
> > Here's the deal, Ken:
> >
> > You get to whine about Tiger -- I get to point out that your a whining
> > crybaby.
> >
> > Don't like it? Sue me.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ken
> >
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > On Feb 18, 1:49 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > But can we expect you to now mention Freddie's outbursts every time you
> > > > go on (and you *do* go on) about Tiger?
> >
> > > > Thought not.
> >
> > --
> > "The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
> > "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
> > the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 14:42:38
From:
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Hey dipshit, has Fred been annointed the "savior of golf"? Showered
with millions of dollars for just showing up and making a few
commercials? And all the rest? Not to mention the mindless adulation.
He should act the part of champ instead of a crybaby chump.
Thought not my ass................
Once again, I have never said that Tiger is the only one. But, given
his position, he should be a shining example for the game of golf, not
a reason for excuse-making.
Now, go play in traffic like you ought to. Don't like it? Sue me. See
you in court.
Ken
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On Feb 18, 1:49 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
>>
> But can we expect you to now mention Freddie's outbursts every time you
> go on (and you *do* go on) about Tiger?
>
> Thought not.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 17:09:58
From: glfnaz
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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Well, yes he has.
#1 in the world for a while, adulation from many ( especially women),
showered with money to show up overseas, given millions to play Lynx,
Teardrop, Taylor Made, and wear Ashford ( in their commercials), drive
Cadilac ( in their commercials).
Quite frankly, Fred has been.
<kenpittsjr@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1171838558.923685.286850@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hey dipshit, has Fred been annointed the "savior of golf"? Showered
> with millions of dollars for just showing up and making a few
> commercials? And all the rest? Not to mention the mindless adulation.
> He should act the part of champ instead of a crybaby chump.
>
> Thought not my ass................
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 22:51:32
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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In article <1171838558.923685.286850@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey dipshit, has Fred been annointed the "savior of golf"? Showered
> with millions of dollars for just showing up and making a few
> commercials? And all the rest? Not to mention the mindless adulation.
> He should act the part of champ instead of a crybaby chump.
>
> Thought not my ass................
>
> Once again, I have never said that Tiger is the only one. But, given
> his position, he should be a shining example for the game of golf, not
> a reason for excuse-making.
>
> Now, go play in traffic like you ought to. Don't like it? Sue me. See
> you in court.
Good god, but your a baby.
You whine and whine about Tiger Woods, but if someone comes along and
points out what a huge hypocrite you are, you go ballistic.
Here's the deal, Ken:
You get to whine about Tiger -- I get to point out that your a whining
crybaby.
Don't like it? Sue me.
>
> Ken
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> On Feb 18, 1:49 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> >>
> > But can we expect you to now mention Freddie's outbursts every time you
> > go on (and you *do* go on) about Tiger?
> >
> > Thought not.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 12:35:43
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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""sartorially challenged upper-crust white men"?
Last account I had, DL3 is outfitted by Ralph Lauren Polo. Sharper
than the awful Adidas stuff Sergio is wearing.
Ken
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On Feb 18, 11:08 am, "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 18, 12:40 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Hate to hear all that about Freddie. I love his golf swing. Still
> > doesn't absolve Tiger.
>
> > "Whitebread"? Would you have him wear his pants around his knees and
> > mutter "Wassup?" like a gang member or wannabe gang member? He is what
> > he is. ie he's been around nothing but golf his entire life.
>
> He's no Jonathan Kaye. Or John Morgan. Or Will Mackenzie. Or any
> nuymber of other golfers who seem like they would be fun to go have a
> beer with. He's just another gifted swing in the long line of
> interchangeable personalities in a sport of bland, sartorially
> challenged upper-crust white men. Boring, Ken, boring.
>
> >FWIW,
> > that image you mentioned is tweaked a little by his involvement in
> > Harley Davidsons.
>
> "Tweaked"? I don't think so - it's actually reinforced. Consider
> this: At least one of the bikes he rides a $150k OCC custom built
> bike...a gift from his WIFE!! Does it get any more whitebread than
> that?!?! Does your wife have $150k to plonk down on a whim? Look,
> just because you sport a goatee in the offseason and ride a "chopper"
> when you aren't snowboarding doesn't mean you are a true
> dirtbag...he's a blueblood white boy w/ some enviable toys - but it's
> not his lifestyle.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 11:08:48
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 18, 12:40 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hate to hear all that about Freddie. I love his golf swing. Still
> doesn't absolve Tiger.
>
> "Whitebread"? Would you have him wear his pants around his knees and
> mutter "Wassup?" like a gang member or wannabe gang member? He is what
> he is. ie he's been around nothing but golf his entire life.
He's no Jonathan Kaye. Or John Morgan. Or Will Mackenzie. Or any
nuymber of other golfers who seem like they would be fun to go have a
beer with. He's just another gifted swing in the long line of
interchangeable personalities in a sport of bland, sartorially
challenged upper-crust white men. Boring, Ken, boring.
>FWIW,
> that image you mentioned is tweaked a little by his involvement in
> Harley Davidsons.
"Tweaked"? I don't think so - it's actually reinforced. Consider
this: At least one of the bikes he rides a $150k OCC custom built
bike...a gift from his WIFE!! Does it get any more whitebread than
that?!?! Does your wife have $150k to plonk down on a whim? Look,
just because you sport a goatee in the offseason and ride a "chopper"
when you aren't snowboarding doesn't mean you are a true
dirtbag...he's a blueblood white boy w/ some enviable toys - but it's
not his lifestyle.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 10:40:45
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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Hate to hear all that about Freddie. I love his golf swing. Still
doesn't absolve Tiger.
"Whitebread"? Would you have him wear his pants around his knees and
mutter "Wassup?" like a gang member or wannabe gang member? He is what
he is. ie he's been around nothing but golf his entire life. FWIW,
that image you mentioned is tweaked a little by his involvement in
Harley Davidsons.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 18, 10:18 am, "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 14, 11:18 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > OK, you've got one instance each for Couples and Love. Got any others?
> > And they have been around longer than Tiger. Tiger blows up more often
> > than he doesn't lately.
>
> Couples in Vegas one year - dog cussed spectators under his breath <snip>
>
> As for DL3, aside from the sprinkler head bashing, I've never seen any
> histrionics or poor bahavior on the course. I've followed him,
> watched him, and he seems pretty level-headed. A tad too....white
> bread/milquetoast/blue blood, but overall a decent guy.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 21:49:25
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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In article <1171824045.873906.88960@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> Hate to hear all that about Freddie. I love his golf swing. Still
> doesn't absolve Tiger.
But can we expect you to now mention Freddie's outbursts every time you
go on (and you *do* go on) about Tiger?
Thought not.
>
> "Whitebread"? Would you have him wear his pants around his knees and
> mutter "Wassup?" like a gang member or wannabe gang member? He is what
> he is. ie he's been around nothing but golf his entire life. FWIW,
> that image you mentioned is tweaked a little by his involvement in
> Harley Davidsons.
>
> Ken
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> On Feb 18, 10:18 am, "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 14, 11:18 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > OK, you've got one instance each for Couples and Love. Got any others?
> > > And they have been around longer than Tiger. Tiger blows up more often
> > > than he doesn't lately.
> >
> > Couples in Vegas one year - dog cussed spectators under his breath <snip>
> >
> > As for DL3, aside from the sprinkler head bashing, I've never seen any
> > histrionics or poor bahavior on the course. I've followed him,
> > watched him, and he seems pretty level-headed. A tad too....white
> > bread/milquetoast/blue blood, but overall a decent guy.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 10:18:24
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 14, 11:18 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> OK, you've got one instance each for Couples and Love. Got any others?
> And they have been around longer than Tiger. Tiger blows up more often
> than he doesn't lately.
Couples in Vegas one year - dog cussed spectators under his breath
repeatedly, over and over. Wouldn't say one word to his pro-am
partners (a former colleague of mine). Meanwhile Celine Dion was
talking with them, asking questions about what they did for a living,
just being hospitable during a round of golf. Couples would have
nothing to do with the group.
Couples at Spyglass in 2005. He was paired with Duval. Duval shot
his typical (at the time) 79 - 83 round. At the end of the round,
after signing scorecards, Duval stood and signed every autograph stuck
in his face by all of the kids. Couples not only didn't sign
anything, he didn't even acknowledge the kids. Just breezed right
past w/o saying peep and was out of there.
Couples at some random tourney a couple of years back when getting an
unfavorable drop around the green was heard clear as a bell to say on
the broadcast to some fan who snickered: "Yeah, that's real FUCKING
funny, huh?"
As for DL3, aside from the sprinkler head bashing, I've never seen any
histrionics or poor bahavior on the course. I've followed him,
watched him, and he seems pretty level-headed. A tad too....white
bread/milquetoast/blue blood, but overall a decent guy.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 10:13:37
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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We only know about Phil'a gift because the recipient (Conrad Dobler)
made it public.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 17, 7:56 pm, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:02:58 -0500, George Hibbard wrote:
> > Tiger's million is the average guy's pocket money. If you are
> > generous, do your charity in silence, like Phil.
>
> It can't be that silent if we keep hearing about it.
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Date: 19 Feb 2007 00:42:47
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On 18 Feb 2007 10:13:37 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>We only know about Phil'a gift because the recipient (Conrad Dobler)
>made it public.
That's true. We don't hear about anonymous gifts.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 10:12:14
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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I am having a hard time figuring how they assigned the rankings.
Look at number 45 on the list. All things considered, they should be
near the top having given 68% of their net worth away. You really
think that Tiger's net worth is not in line with these people ($150M)?
If you **do** count his endorsements, his income is supposedly right
in line with Oprah at about $100M a year. FWIW, I have seen her on
others years of this list.
There is one thing about Tiger's finances that I do admire. He tries
to live off his golf income after taxes. He invests all the rest. With
proper mgmt, his family will be rich for generations to come. Just as
long as we keep that insidious death tax out of effect.
Ken
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 17, 10:24 pm, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com > wrote:
> On Feb 17, 6:09 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_48/b3860605.htm
>
> > I'll be impressed when Tiger makes a list like this. Notice these
> > people are giving significant portions of their net worth. Bill Gates
> > is a giant of philanthropy. Tiger has some hefty checks to write to
> > get in that league.
>
> Yeah, especially since the 50th person on that list donated $95
> million.
> Tiger's career earnings are only $66 Million, not counting
> endorsements.
> What percentage of his income would be acceptable for you?
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 09:57:44
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 14, 8:42 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> Bobby, you cannot be serious. <in the famous words of John MacEnroe.>
>
> I will cite three instances.
>
> Screaming "Gddmn fckng prck!" live on ABC at the 2000 US Open.
If you're gonna cite him for behavior, get it right Old Timer, it was
"Goddamn you Tiger, FUCK!" He was berating none other than himself.
The language? Harsh. The situation? Intense. Ultimately, you are
confusing the man and his game for his temper. But I understand -
it's gotta be tough watching someone you despise cruise into the
rarest air in golf.
> I say that Tiger is a hot-head and it appears that he will not be
> cured. No matter how much he wins. He shows his ass at nearly every
> event.
"Cured"?!? Anyway, your initial reference was an isolated incident of
Mickelson giving a family some money. Instead of indulging your
neuroses any further, I'll give you a link to look into...get back
with us when you digest:
http://www.twfound.org/
Oh, and I'm guessing that TW is welcome at just about any
table...Vegas and elsewhere. But since you have the word from Vegas,
and you're really st...I guess he's not.
PS - How 'bout another 'nym, Ken. This guy has more aliases than
Sybil. Ken Pitts: "How to Denigrate Tiger while Evading Plonkage."
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Date: 19 Feb 2007 22:10:37
From: The World Wide Wade
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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In article
<1171821464.106675.156790@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com >,
"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:
> > Screaming "Gddmn fckng prck!" live on ABC at the 2000 US Open.
>
> If you're gonna cite him for behavior, get it right Old Timer, it was
> "Goddamn you Tiger, FUCK!"
No, it was "Goddam you fucking prick." Or words very close to
that. Hard to miss, and they replayed it on tape.
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 22:53:29
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 17, 8:54 pm, "Steve S" <n...@fughettaboutit.com > wrote:
> "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1171749340.482947.222660@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 17, 4:26 am, "Steve S" <n...@fughettaboutit.com> wrote:
> > Got any more unfounded accusations, Swifty?
>
> > -Greg
>
> Here kitty, kitty.....
Here dummy...dummy...dummy.
-Greg
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 22:24:12
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 17, 6:09 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_48/b3860605.htm
>
> I'll be impressed when Tiger makes a list like this. Notice these
> people are giving significant portions of their net worth. Bill Gates
> is a giant of philanthropy. Tiger has some hefty checks to write to
> get in that league.
Yeah, especially since the 50th person on that list donated $95
million.
Tiger's career earnings are only $66 Million, not counting
endorsements.
What percentage of his income would be acceptable for you?
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 18:48:22
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
Sorry Bozo - my wife and I own a half million dollar house overlooking
Puget Sound. Haven't lived in a trailer for over 30 years.
You think Tiger invented the foundation for a sports star? Dave
Winfield had one when Tiger was early in elementary school.
Go ahead and try playing the race cards. It hasn't stuck to me yet.
Tiger isn't playing this week because he doesn't like Riviera, just
like he doesn't like Colonial. You can't go bombs away at either one.
You talk really big or someone who has yet to beidentified.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 17, 6:00 pm, a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 17, 5:02 pm, "George Hibbard" <g...@perfectimpact.com> wrote:
>
> > Tiger's million is the average guy's pocket money.
>
> A million is a lot to anybody. And wasn't the whole point of this
> thread what an "angel" Phil is for giving what, $20K or so per year
> for four years? So let's all put our thinking caps on and try to
> figure out why Pitts and Hibbard think $80K over four years is
> angelic, but a million in a week is niggardly. Hmm, what could it be?
>
> > If you are generous,
> > do your charity in silence, like Phil.
>
> Show me where Tiger bragged about it, or even talked about it. Some
> reporter found out from the sponsors.
>
> > It is rude and immature to ignore custoy tipping for services:
>
> It is stupid and moronic to believe what some nobody says about
> Tiger. All Pitts knows about Tiger is what he sees on TV. And the TV
> in his trailer is black and white.
>
> > I can't separate my reaction to things like that from whether I feel
> > admiration for anyone, regardless of achievements (pure gifts in
> > themselves). I do not enjoy watching TW play golf.
>
> So now we know why Tiger isn't playing this week. He's crying his
> eyes out because Hibbard doesn't like him.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 04:50:25
From: Bear
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On 17 Feb 2007 18:48:22 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>Sorry Bozo - my wife and I own a half million dollar house overlooking
>Puget Sound. Haven't lived in a trailer for over 30 years.
>
>You think Tiger invented the foundation for a sports star? Dave
>Winfield had one when Tiger was early in elementary school.
>
>Go ahead and try playing the race cards. It hasn't stuck to me yet.
>
>Tiger isn't playing this week because he doesn't like Riviera, just
>like he doesn't like Colonial. You can't go bombs away at either one.
My guess is that it has as much to do with keting. Isn't Riviera
the Nissan Open and isn' t Colonial the MasterCard something or other?
Would seem to me a guy promoting Buick and Amex isn't going to go out
of his way to play at tourneys that have competing companies as title
sponsors
>
>You talk really big or someone who has yet to beidentified.
I'm sure you'll get the secret police right on that one.
>+++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>On Feb 17, 6:00 pm, a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 5:02 pm, "George Hibbard" <g...@perfectimpact.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Tiger's million is the average guy's pocket money.
>>
>> A million is a lot to anybody. And wasn't the whole point of this
>> thread what an "angel" Phil is for giving what, $20K or so per year
>> for four years? So let's all put our thinking caps on and try to
>> figure out why Pitts and Hibbard think $80K over four years is
>> angelic, but a million in a week is niggardly. Hmm, what could it be?
>>
>> > If you are generous,
>> > do your charity in silence, like Phil.
>>
>> Show me where Tiger bragged about it, or even talked about it. Some
>> reporter found out from the sponsors.
>>
>> > It is rude and immature to ignore custoy tipping for services:
>>
>> It is stupid and moronic to believe what some nobody says about
>> Tiger. All Pitts knows about Tiger is what he sees on TV. And the TV
>> in his trailer is black and white.
>>
>> > I can't separate my reaction to things like that from whether I feel
>> > admiration for anyone, regardless of achievements (pure gifts in
>> > themselves). I do not enjoy watching TW play golf.
>>
>> So now we know why Tiger isn't playing this week. He's crying his
>> eyes out because Hibbard doesn't like him.
>
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 18:00:40
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 17, 5:02 pm, "George Hibbard" <g...@perfectimpact.com > wrote:
> Tiger's million is the average guy's pocket money.
A million is a lot to anybody. And wasn't the whole point of this
thread what an "angel" Phil is for giving what, $20K or so per year
for four years? So let's all put our thinking caps on and try to
figure out why Pitts and Hibbard think $80K over four years is
angelic, but a million in a week is niggardly. Hmm, what could it be?
> If you are generous,
> do your charity in silence, like Phil.
Show me where Tiger bragged about it, or even talked about it. Some
reporter found out from the sponsors.
> It is rude and immature to ignore custoy tipping for services:
It is stupid and moronic to believe what some nobody says about
Tiger. All Pitts knows about Tiger is what he sees on TV. And the TV
in his trailer is black and white.
> I can't separate my reaction to things like that from whether I feel
> admiration for anyone, regardless of achievements (pure gifts in
> themselves). I do not enjoy watching TW play golf.
So now we know why Tiger isn't playing this week. He's crying his
eyes out because Hibbard doesn't like him.
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 15:15:35
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
For once I agree with you. I am from and now live in FortWorth and
that is an entirely different deal.
On the back of shirts worn by employees of the Railhead Smokehouse (my
favorite BBQ place). "Life is too short to live in Dallas.".
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 16, 6:26 am, High_Colo...@webtv.net (Miss Anne Thrope) wrote:
> "Reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated."
> "I am working in the DFW area..."
>
> Living in Dallas sure sounds like a demise to me.
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 15:12:05
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
Also, I would bet the money Tiger won in that Target event is only a
small portion of the amount he is given by Target for the endorsements
he does.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 17, 9:35 am, a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Tiger donated his entire $Million+ check to charity after winning the
> Target last year, as he always does. He has donated additional
> millions to his foundation, which helps underprivileged kids get
> excited about learning. I know that's not as important as giving some
> silicon-filled cocktail waitress ten bucks for ten second's work, but
> it's something.
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 15:09:49
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_48/b3860605.htm
I'll be impressed when Tiger makes a list like this. Notice these
people are giving significant portions of their net worth. Bill Gates
is a giant of philanthropy. Tiger has some hefty checks to write to
get in that league.
When hanging out at the Rio and the Palms, I would think Tiger doesn't
look too slick not offering any tips. When in Rome, do as the Romans
do.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 17, 9:35 am, a2mg...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Tiger donated his entire $Million+ check to charity after winning the
> Target last year, as he always does. He has donated additional
> millions to his foundation, which helps underprivileged kids get
> excited about learning. I know that's not as important as giving some
> silicon-filled cocktail waitress ten bucks for ten second's work, but
> it's something.
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 13:59:44
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 17, 2:07 am, fearless frank ross <f...@net.net > wrote:
>
> A 48 year old with the mind of a teen! You know everyone's age on RSG?
>
I know two things. Your name is not Frank Ross and secondly, you're
not worth my time.
-Greg
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 21:35:48
From: frank ross
Subject: Dene Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
Dene wrote:
> On Feb 17, 2:07 am, fearless frank ross <f...@net.net> wrote:
>
>> A 48 year old with the mind of a teen! You know everyone's age on RSG?
>>
>
> I know two things. Your name is not Frank Ross and secondly, you're
> not worth my time.
>
> -Greg
>
First. Wrong, my name IS Frank Ross. Secondly, I know, your time is
well spent skulking.
Frank
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 13:55:40
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 17, 4:26 am, "Steve S" <n...@fughettaboutit.com > wrote:
> "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1171703155.637997.317750@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 16, 6:42 pm, "Steve S" <n...@fughettaboutit.com> wrote:
> >> "frank ross" <f...@net.net> wrote in message
> >> > Dene the Wene speaks. Aren't you tired of just skulking around waiting
> >> > for a chance to ankle bite one certain poster?
>
> >> That's not fair. He skulks around waiting for like 3-4 posters.
>
> > Name them.
>
> > -Greg
>
> How about I give hints, one at a time, playing with you like a cat and a
> ball of yarn. Here's one.....MD......
>
> You are so predictable, thin skinned, insecure and quick to explode that
> it's a joy to watch you attempt to kick the football utterly convinced that
> this time Lucy won't pull it away at the last minute.
I haven't noticed a post from Dalecki in a long time. Perhaps he's
been posting here but I don't look for them....never have. However, I
do recall the last post I directed toward him. It said,
"Good post." or words to that effect. I don't know if he responded.
Got any more unfounded accusations, Swifty?
-Greg
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 23:54:20
From: Steve S
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1171749340.482947.222660@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 17, 4:26 am, "Steve S" <n...@fughettaboutit.com> wrote:
> Got any more unfounded accusations, Swifty?
>
> -Greg
>
Here kitty, kitty.....
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 09:35:23
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 14, 9:27 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 14, 9:03 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <1171505634.542113.166...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>
> I brought it up because Tiger is a selfish tightwad in addion to being
> a profane whiner. Phil is a saint looking to help people at every
> turn. And I brought it up to irritate assholes like you. Eh?
>
> Ken
Tiger donated his entire $Million+ check to charity after winning the
Target last year, as he always does. He has donated additional
millions to his foundation, which helps underprivileged kids get
excited about learning. I know that's not as important as giving some
silicon-filled cocktail waitress ten bucks for ten second's work, but
it's something.
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 20:02:58
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
<a2mgoog@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1171733723.789183.59260@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 14, 9:27 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Feb 14, 9:03 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <1171505634.542113.166...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> I brought it up because Tiger is a selfish tightwad in addion to being
>> a profane whiner. Phil is a saint looking to help people at every
>> turn. And I brought it up to irritate assholes like you. Eh?
>>
>> Ken
>
> Tiger donated his entire $Million+ check to charity after winning the
> Target last year, as he always does. He has donated additional
> millions to his foundation, which helps underprivileged kids get
> excited about learning. I know that's not as important as giving some
> silicon-filled cocktail waitress ten bucks for ten second's work, but
> it's something.
>
Tiger's million is the average guy's pocket money. If you are generous,
do your charity in silence, like Phil.
It is rude and immature to ignore custoy tipping for services: not to
denigrate cocktail waitressing where normal tips are obscenely high for what
the service amounts to, but NO tips when they are custoy is certainly
telling about someone's breeding. A shame.
I can't separate my reaction to things like that from whether I feel
admiration for anyone, regardless of achievements (pure gifts in
themselves). I do not enjoy watching TW play golf.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 02:05:35
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:02:58 -0500, "George Hibbard"
<gh@perfectimpact.com > wrote:
>Tiger's million is the average guy's pocket money. If you are generous,
>do your charity in silence, like Phil.
1. His charities that we know about benefit by being associated by
his name.
2. Phil gives some gifts in silence - but people know it is him who
gives them anyway.
3. It is quite possible that both Phil and Tiger give anonymous
gifts. If they are truly silent gifts, we wouldn't know about them.
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 20:16:02
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
"George Hibbard" <gh@perfectimpact.com > wrote in message
news:%ANBh.11721$O8.8788@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> It is rude and immature to ignore custoy tipping for services
Screw tipping.
Why don't the people that hire them pay them for their labor?
Otto
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 01:05:55
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 16, 6:42 pm, "Steve S" <n...@fughettaboutit.com > wrote:
> "frank ross" <f...@net.net> wrote in message
>
> news:53lgtrF1s6o6sU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > Dene wrote:
> >> Truth exposed. Nice job, Ken.
>
> >> -Greg
>
> > Dene the Wene speaks. Aren't you tired of just skulking around waiting
> > for a chance to ankle bite one certain poster?
>
> That's not fair. He skulks around waiting for like 3-4 posters.
Name them.
-Greg
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 07:26:24
From: Steve S
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1171703155.637997.317750@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 16, 6:42 pm, "Steve S" <n...@fughettaboutit.com> wrote:
>> "frank ross" <f...@net.net> wrote in message
>> > Dene the Wene speaks. Aren't you tired of just skulking around waiting
>> > for a chance to ankle bite one certain poster?
>>
>> That's not fair. He skulks around waiting for like 3-4 posters.
>
> Name them.
>
> -Greg
>
How about I give hints, one at a time, playing with you like a cat and a
ball of yarn. Here's one.....MD......
You are so predictable, thin skinned, insecure and quick to explode that
it's a joy to watch you attempt to kick the football utterly convinced that
this time Lucy won't pull it away at the last minute.
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 01:04:58
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 16, 2:55 am, frank ross <f...@net.net > wrote:
> Dene wrote:
> > Truth exposed. Nice job, Ken.
>
> > -Greg
>
> Dene the Wene speaks. Aren't you tired of just skulking around waiting
> for a chance to ankle bite one certain poster?
I stalk Ken Pitts?
> What truth is exposed, that he has a different opinion than Pitts?
Truth is that your hero, BK, can dish it out. When KP gives it back,
BK can only respond with "screw you." I was commending KP for once
again revealing your hero's true nature, in particular his morality
and prick-ish M.O.
> Boy, BK sure has you by the short hair and you don't even know it. Must
> be the fact that he's called you out, and you had no answer for it.
Exactly where did your hero address me in this thread. Do you know
how to read threads?
> You're pretty young, aren't you?
48.....fearless Frank. You should know that, if your claim to have
"been around RSG" is the truth.
> Frank Ross
-Greg
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 04:07:31
From: frank ross
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
Dene wrote:
> On Feb 16, 2:55 am, frank ross <f...@net.net> wrote:
>> Dene wrote:
>>> Truth exposed. Nice job, Ken.
>>> -Greg
>> Dene the Wene speaks. Aren't you tired of just skulking around waiting
>> for a chance to ankle bite one certain poster?
>
> I stalk Ken Pitts?
>
>> What truth is exposed, that he has a different opinion than Pitts?
>
> Truth is that your hero, BK, can dish it out. When KP gives it back,
> BK can only respond with "screw you." I was commending KP for once
> again revealing your hero's true nature, in particular his morality
> and prick-ish M.O.
First of all, BK doesn't seem to want to be anyone's hero, and you don't
fit the mold. I don't agree with him on this subject either.
>
>> Boy, BK sure has you by the short hair and you don't even know it. Must
>> be the fact that he's called you out, and you had no answer for it.
>
> Exactly where did your hero address me in this thread. Do you know
> how to read threads?
He doesn't have to address you, you're consumed by him, sneakingly
lurking, waiting to make any possible snide rek....because he's got
you nailed. That's all you do here. Why don't you attack those that
snubbed you at RSGNW for a change?
>
>> You're pretty young, aren't you?
>
> 48.....fearless Frank. You should know that, if your claim to have
> "been around RSG" is the truth.
>
A 48 year old with the mind of a teen! You know everyone's age on RSG?
>> Frank Ross
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 09:26:27
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
"Reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated."
"I am working in the DFW area..."
Living in Dallas sure sounds like a demise to me.
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 05:48:14
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 15, 10:02 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> The last time I was in LasVegas, I had heard in advance that he is
> known for not tipping. I dropped his name all over town and everyone
> who expressed an opinion said the same thing.
Even in Vegas Ken is obsessed with Tiger Woods.
Hey Ken, didn't they tell you to keep mum about that?
What goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas.
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 19:20:34
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 15, 7:11 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 15 Feb 2007 19:05:58 -0800, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Bobby, how does any of tha absolve Tiger?
>
> >Moral relativism.
>
> >Ken
>
> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >On Feb 15, 2:17 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >> Aren't you aware of the bitchers that moan about all of the air time
> >> that he gets on every tournament? He can't pick his nose without
> >> over coverage.
>
> >> I don't know how many pro tournaments you've gone to, but I've been to
> >> a bunch....and seen clubs thrown, m-f shouted, and pissed players
> >> galore. However, they weren't even on the radar, much less TV, or any
> >> coverage for that matter.
>
> Ken,
> You have a severe mental block. When have I suggested that anyone be
> absolved? The fact is that he's the most photographed, quoted,
> followed, and recorded sports figure today. If you don't , that
> should be "won't" understand that, you have no comprehension of how
> his actions are not that egregious.
>
> Screw your moral relativism. Screw you.
Truth exposed. Nice job, Ken.
-Greg
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 04:55:56
From: frank ross
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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Dene wrote:
> Truth exposed. Nice job, Ken.
>
> -Greg
Dene the Wene speaks. Aren't you tired of just skulking around waiting
for a chance to ankle bite one certain poster?
What truth is exposed, that he has a different opinion than Pitts?
Boy, BK sure has you by the short hair and you don't even know it. Must
be the fact that he's called you out, and you had no answer for it.
You're pretty young, aren't you?
Frank Ross
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 21:42:29
From: Steve S
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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"frank ross" <fross@net.net > wrote in message
news:53lgtrF1s6o6sU1@mid.individual.net...
> Dene wrote:
>> Truth exposed. Nice job, Ken.
>>
>> -Greg
>
> Dene the Wene speaks. Aren't you tired of just skulking around waiting
> for a chance to ankle bite one certain poster?
>
That's not fair. He skulks around waiting for like 3-4 posters.
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 15:28:13
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:55:56 -0600, frank ross <fross@net.net > wrote:
>Dene wrote:
>> Truth exposed. Nice job, Ken.
>>
>> -Greg
>
>Dene the Wene speaks. Aren't you tired of just skulking around waiting
>for a chance to ankle bite one certain poster?
>
>What truth is exposed, that he has a different opinion than Pitts?
>
>Boy, BK sure has you by the short hair and you don't even know it. Must
>be the fact that he's called you out, and you had no answer for it.
>
>You're pretty young, aren't you?
>
>Frank Ross
Ignore him Frank. Everyone else does.
--
___,
\o
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 19:05:58
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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Bobby, how does any of tha absolve Tiger?
Moral relativism.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 15, 2:17 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> Aren't you aware of the bitchers that moan about all of the air time
> that he gets on every tournament? He can't pick his nose without
> over coverage.
>
> I don't know how many pro tournaments you've gone to, but I've been to
> a bunch....and seen clubs thrown, m-f shouted, and pissed players
> galore. However, they weren't even on the radar, much less TV, or any
> coverage for that matter.
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 03:11:48
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On 15 Feb 2007 19:05:58 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>Bobby, how does any of tha absolve Tiger?
>
>Moral relativism.
>
>Ken
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>On Feb 15, 2:17 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> Aren't you aware of the bitchers that moan about all of the air time
>> that he gets on every tournament? He can't pick his nose without
>> over coverage.
>>
>> I don't know how many pro tournaments you've gone to, but I've been to
>> a bunch....and seen clubs thrown, m-f shouted, and pissed players
>> galore. However, they weren't even on the radar, much less TV, or any
>> coverage for that matter.
>
Ken,
You have a severe mental block. When have I suggested that anyone be
absolved? The fact is that he's the most photographed, quoted,
followed, and recorded sports figure today. If you don't , that
should be "won't" understand that, you have no comprehension of how
his actions are not that egregious.
Screw your moral relativism. Screw you.
___,
\o
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 19:02:00
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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I have never at any point said that Tiger is the only one that
misbehaves. Pat Perez and Rory Sabatinni are at least as bad as
Tiger.
The fact that Tiger is compensated in such a spectaular way and has
such a huge adoring following, is reason enough that he should behave
in a professional manner. Get mad? Fine. Showboat? Fine also. But cut
out the foul language and the club/course abuse. I can just imagine
execs at GM and Amex wincing every time he has one of his little
episodes.
The last time I was in LasVegas, I had heard in advance that he is
known for not tipping. I dropped his name all over town and everyone
who expressed an opinion said the same thing. He's cheap. He has that
reputation all over town. I don't have to go to the Rio to find that
out. Those dealers are pretty close-knit group.
Tom Weiskopf? Million dollar swing and a fifty cent brain. A jerk.
What does that have to do with Tiger?
Otherwise, best regards.
Ken
On Feb 14, 9:33 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
<a whole bunch of stuff following me around >
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 08:35:24
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On 15 Feb 2007 19:02:00 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>The last time I was in LasVegas, I had heard in advance that he is
>known for not tipping. I dropped his name all over town and everyone
>who expressed an opinion said the same thing. He's cheap. He has that
>reputation all over town. I don't have to go to the Rio to find that
>out. Those dealers are pretty close-knit group.
Tipping to the standards that they are hoping for is not at all the
same thing as being charitable to those who need charity.
People recognize him and hope that he tips differently than you or I
tip, drop us and go to him. When he tips the going rate, they get
mad that someone that wealthy and famous doesn't tip more. But
tipping is purchasing a service, just like buying anything else. Do
we expect him to pay twice as much at the grocery store?
Charity is something completely different.
We are aware that his public charity is well funded and does good. In
that case, his name helps get it extra funding from corporations and
givers who want to be associated with him - so by being public, it
does more good than if it was private.
We don't know what he does or doesn't give anonymously.
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 16:50:09
From: Bear
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:35:24 -0700, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:
>On 15 Feb 2007 19:02:00 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>The last time I was in LasVegas, I had heard in advance that he is
>>known for not tipping. I dropped his name all over town and everyone
>>who expressed an opinion said the same thing. He's cheap. He has that
>>reputation all over town. I don't have to go to the Rio to find that
>>out. Those dealers are pretty close-knit group.
>
>Tipping to the standards that they are hoping for is not at all the
>same thing as being charitable to those who need charity.
>
>People recognize him and hope that he tips differently than you or I
>tip, drop us and go to him. When he tips the going rate, they get
>mad that someone that wealthy and famous doesn't tip more. But
>tipping is purchasing a service, just like buying anything else. Do
>we expect him to pay twice as much at the grocery store?
Seen this first hand. When I was but a wee lad my folks owned a
restaurant that some of the local NHL frequented. It was amazing how
if they didn't leave a huge tip the table staff would go on and on
about how cheap they were even though the tip was well within the
normal amounts expected.
Same thing when I worked at a course/resort around here that had quite
a few celebs stayed at. I remember the housekeeping staff being up in
arms about a couple of actors who left what they felt wasn't enough
after a 2 week stay during a movie shoot. They got tipped but just not
the copious amounts they expected.
Both these situations ended up taking on a life of their own as the
staff told and retold the stories until they were distorted beyond
belief. The housekeeping staff took the prize though as by the 100
retelling of the tale the rooms were trashed with all types of
unsavory behavior happening and the cheap bastards leaving nothing but
soiled sheets :)
>
>Charity is something completely different.
>
>We are aware that his public charity is well funded and does good. In
>that case, his name helps get it extra funding from corporations and
>givers who want to be associated with him - so by being public, it
>does more good than if it was private.
>
>We don't know what he does or doesn't give anonymously.
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 04:49:06
From: frank ross
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> I have never at any point said that Tiger is the only one that
> misbehaves. Pat Perez and Rory Sabatinni are at least as bad as
> Tiger.
>
> The fact that Tiger is compensated in such a spectaular way and has
> such a huge adoring following, is reason enough that he should behave
> in a professional manner. Get mad? Fine. Showboat? Fine also. But cut
> out the foul language and the club/course abuse. I can just imagine
> execs at GM and Amex wincing every time he has one of his little
> episodes.
>
> The last time I was in LasVegas, I had heard in advance that he is
> known for not tipping. I dropped his name all over town and everyone
> who expressed an opinion said the same thing. He's cheap. He has that
> reputation all over town. I don't have to go to the Rio to find that
> out. Those dealers are pretty close-knit group.
>
> Tom Weiskopf? Million dollar swing and a fifty cent brain. A jerk.
> What does that have to do with Tiger?
I agree that Tiger could cool it a little, but how can you ask why
someone brought up Weiskopf? You're the one that brought up Tiger in a
thread where it wasn't needed.
Frank Ross
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 03:15:22
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
In article <1171594919.966582.36730@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com >,
kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> I have never at any point said that Tiger is the only one that
> misbehaves. Pat Perez and Rory Sabatinni are at least as bad as
> Tiger.
No. He's just the only one that you bring up...
...*all* the time.
>
> The fact that Tiger is compensated in such a spectaular way and has
> such a huge adoring following, is reason enough that he should behave
> in a professional manner. Get mad? Fine. Showboat? Fine also. But cut
> out the foul language and the club/course abuse. I can just imagine
> execs at GM and Amex wincing every time he has one of his little
> episodes.
>
> The last time I was in LasVegas, I had heard in advance that he is
> known for not tipping. I dropped his name all over town and everyone
> who expressed an opinion said the same thing. He's cheap. He has that
> reputation all over town. I don't have to go to the Rio to find that
> out. Those dealers are pretty close-knit group.
You singled out the Rio and then said you don't actually go there.
It's called "credibility".
>
> Tom Weiskopf? Million dollar swing and a fifty cent brain. A jerk.
> What does that have to do with Tiger?
It has to do with refuting your nonsense that Tiger is somehow worse
than all the others who have thrown clubs and cursed.
>
> Otherwise, best regards.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> On Feb 14, 9:33 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> <a whole bunch of stuff following me around>
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 08:31:59
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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I think Ken loves Phil Mickelson.
http://deseretnews.com/photos/2145231.jpg
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 08:28:11
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 15, 9:59 am, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspa...@bite.org >
wrote:
>> >Ouch. You're gonna pay for that!!
>
> Nah, Bellomy is too chicken to show up in Cincinnati.
Here's a tip, Bellomy. If you go to Cincinnati be careful about what
you wear.
I drove through there wearing a Cincinnati Bengal jersey and got
pulled over 3 times.
As the NFL Network commercial says, "The jury is still out on the
Cincinnati Bengals."
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 13:18:06
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On 15 Feb 2007 08:28:11 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
wrote:
>On Feb 15, 9:59 am, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspa...@bite.org>
>wrote:
>
>>> >Ouch. You're gonna pay for that!!
>>
>> Nah, Bellomy is too chicken to show up in Cincinnati.
>
>
>Here's a tip, Bellomy. If you go to Cincinnati be careful about what
>you wear.
>I drove through there wearing a Cincinnati Bengal jersey and got
>pulled over 3 times.
>
>As the NFL Network commercial says, "The jury is still out on the
>Cincinnati Bengals."
How 'bout them Titans? Oh yeah, I forgot.
They suck.
--
jvdp
Start clearing your calendars
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 09:10:06
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
In article <1171427344.692284.267460@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
The usual. Couldn't you have continued to stat away?
B. tin
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 15:37:26
From: WilsonJack
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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WTF?
Only assholes left in this group?
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 21:27:18
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 14, 9:03 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> In article <1171505634.542113.166...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
I brought it up because Tiger is a selfish tightwad in addion to being
a profane whiner. Phil is a saint looking to help people at every
turn. And I brought it up to irritate assholes like you. Eh?
Ken
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > On Feb 14, 1:48 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > > In article <1171427344.692284.267...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > Tell us all again how it isn't about Tiger and is all about his
> > > swearing...
>
> --
> "The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
> "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
> the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 05:32:13
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
In article <1171517238.048681.303570@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 14, 9:03 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <1171505634.542113.166...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>
> I brought it up because Tiger is a selfish tightwad in addion to being
> a profane whiner. Phil is a saint looking to help people at every
> turn. And I brought it up to irritate assholes like you. Eh?
LOL
You brought it up because you're practically OCD on the subject of Tiger
Woods. I don't know whether you're a racist, or whether it is driven by
something else, but you go out of your way to ignore the fact that Tiger
is hardly the only PGA Tour pro who uses profanity, and that it's been
going on since the Tour first began.
As for Phil, it seems his peers account him an asshole, but I'm sure you
and he would get along great!
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 21:22:11
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
Never been to the Rio. I got an earful about Tiger at the MGM and the
Belaggio.
I brought him up by way of comparison. More money that 5 Phil;s and
can't even tip a dealer or a waitress.
I play blackjack and craps.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 14, 8:52 pm, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 11:29 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I can only imagine how the sycophants in the media and the star-struck
> > hero-worshipers in this group would be doing back flips if Tiger made
> > such a generous commitment from his own pocket. Never happen with
> > Tiger. Just ask the dealers and cocktail waitresses at the Rio in
> > LasVegas.
>
> Why bring Tiger into this? I've never heard about Jack Nicklaus ever
> giving anybody anything, so why don't you rag on him?
>
> Next time you're at the roulette wheel at the Rio why not place a
> wager dedicated to Tiger's next Tour appearance?
> "BLACK 8."
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 05:34:28
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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In article <1171516931.749697.302940@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> Never been to the Rio. I got an earful about Tiger at the MGM and the
> Belaggio.
>
> I brought him up by way of comparison. More money that 5 Phil;s and
> can't even tip a dealer or a waitress.
>
> I play blackjack and craps.
>
> Ken
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> On Feb 14, 8:52 pm, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 11:29 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > I can only imagine how the sycophants in the media and the star-struck
> > > hero-worshipers in this group would be doing back flips if Tiger made
> > > such a generous commitment from his own pocket. Never happen with
> > > Tiger. Just ask the dealers and cocktail waitresses at the Rio in
> > > LasVegas.
Never been to the Rio, Ken? Then why did you write the above?
> >
> > Why bring Tiger into this? I've never heard about Jack Nicklaus ever
> > giving anybody anything, so why don't you rag on him?
> >
> > Next time you're at the roulette wheel at the Rio why not place a
> > wager dedicated to Tiger's next Tour appearance?
> > "BLACK 8."
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 21:18:02
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
You are just not being rational. One utterance of the f-word is not
the same as that spew Tiger screamed at the 2000 US Open, He included
blasphemy and perverion with his outburst. Freddie is so laid back
that he may have never screamed in his life. No comparison.
I've seen what Love did. He popped that sprinler head with one quick
irritated motion. Tiger did a trench job on that tee box at the PGA.
The damage to that green at the US Open was a semi-circle at least 8
ft in diameter. Once again - no comparison.
And Tiger does it over and over. Time after time, year after year. Ten
years worth now. No sign of slowing down. He was throwing clubs at
Dubai the other day. Can't win every time Eldrick. Never happen. Not
Hogan or Nicklaus or Nelson. Didn't see any of them throwing clubs.
He's just a big baby that has to have a little fit every time he
doesn't get his way.
OK, you've got one instance each for Couples and Love. Got any others?
And they have been around longer than Tiger. Tiger blows up more often
than he doesn't lately.
Ken
++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 14, 8:38 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 14 Feb 2007 19:54:06 -0800, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Never seen or heard of one single instance that matches the three I
> >cited in severity. Not one. You are just plain wrong about that.
>
> You don't remember Couples saying "Fuck", or derivatives of the word,
> several times...on camera? Severity? You mean louder. That's just
> ridiculous. Hell, even lady pros have said such on camera.
>
> > Davis Love is a gentleman and your insinuations are curious at best,
> >fabricated at worst. He rapped s sprinkler head at the Bay Hill. It
> >sprung a leak.
>
> You just look at life the way you want to see it Ken. He tore that
> sprinkler up. Show me a sprinkler you can "rap" and do that kind of
> damage. Incidentally, he's one of my favorite players too.
>
> >That is not even in the same universe as the
> >intentional abuse (done in anger) Tiger specializes in. You know
> >better than this.
>
> No, your universe is blinded. Period.
>
> When you first responded to the original post, why did you have to
> make a comparison? Wouldn't it have been better to just say that you
> admired Phil? Nope...you always have to dig at TW. That's just as
> bad as the TW apologists that you mention, who fawn over everything he
> does. He's just a pro golfer...the best in the world...but has his
> good and bad, as everyone else.
>
> <clip>
>
> >If I acted like Tiger does on a regular basis, you would never be
> >willing to play golf with me.
>
> That's simply not true Ken. I hear much worse from a lot of golfers.
>
> >What I don't understand about Phil is not pitching out to the fairway
> >and making sure that he forced a playoff. He still could have won as
> >Payne Stewart did in 1999. The difference between Tiger and Phil is
> >that Phil is a good sport (can deal with the inevitible adversity golf
> >gives us all) and Tiger OTOH cannot control his emotions. He did more
> >than just shrug. He didn't play for weeks. Cancelled out of a
> >scheduled appearance. It was a cruel blow and he dealt with it with
> >introspection.
>
> He just shrugged his shoulders. He has no passion.
>
>
>
> >Ken
>
> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> >On Feb 14, 7:09 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >> From day one, before he ever played a shot as a pro, you were down on
> >> him. Some accused you of being a racist, but I know better. You just
> >> didn't like him pushing Jack out of the picture. All of the things
> >> you say above have been done by others, as has been pointed out to you
> >> over and over. Davis Love, Couples, and others, have said and done
> >> such....and probably more. Frankly, it's meaningful to me that they
> >> have that kind of passion.....but they aren't under the microscope as
> >> Tiger is . Your dislike for him is magnified by that.
>
> >> What I can't understand is how passive Phil was when he threw away the
> >> Open. He just shrugged.
>
> >> ___,
> >> \o
> >>
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 14:25:02
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On 14 Feb 2007 21:18:02 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>You are just not being rational. One utterance of the f-word is not
>the same as that spew Tiger screamed at the 2000 US Open, He included
>blasphemy and perverion with his outburst. Freddie is so laid back
>that he may have never screamed in his life. No comparison.
>
So, the volume, not the f-word is your problem?
>I've seen what Love did. He popped that sprinler head with one quick
>irritated motion. Tiger did a trench job on that tee box at the PGA.
>The damage to that green at the US Open was a semi-circle at least 8
>ft in diameter. Once again - no comparison.
All of that, Ken, is patent bullshit. There was no, NO, damage to
that green. He scraped it....and all that needed to be done, if there
was interference with it for someone, was to smooth it.
>
>And Tiger does it over and over. Time after time, year after year. Ten
>years worth now. No sign of slowing down. He was throwing clubs at
>Dubai the other day. Can't win every time Eldrick. Never happen. Not
>Hogan or Nicklaus or Nelson. Didn't see any of them throwing clubs.
>He's just a big baby that has to have a little fit every time he
>doesn't get his way
It has nothing to do with "getting his way". He can't stand to play
the game badly. Since I didn't see the Dubai tournament, I have no
idea what you call throwing. Using your general blowing out of
porportion about him, he probably just dropped a club.
>
>OK, you've got one instance each for Couples and Love. Got any others?
>And they have been around longer than Tiger. Tiger blows up more often
>than he doesn't lately.
>
Try reading that last sentence to yourself Ken. No, read it out
loud. Then you might see how out of kilter your thinking is.
(Hint) that would mean that he blows up on at least 32-34 shots a
round. Wouldn't you admit that you've exaggerated?
Again. Why in hell did you even bring him up in a thread about Phil?
--
___,
\o
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 05:33:37
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
In article <1171516682.804798.289250@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> You are just not being rational. One utterance of the f-word is not
> the same as that spew Tiger screamed at the 2000 US Open, He included
> blasphemy and perverion with his outburst. Freddie is so laid back
> that he may have never screamed in his life. No comparison.
>
> I've seen what Love did. He popped that sprinler head with one quick
> irritated motion. Tiger did a trench job on that tee box at the PGA.
> The damage to that green at the US Open was a semi-circle at least 8
> ft in diameter. Once again - no comparison.
>
> And Tiger does it over and over. Time after time, year after year. Ten
> years worth now. No sign of slowing down. He was throwing clubs at
> Dubai the other day. Can't win every time Eldrick. Never happen. Not
> Hogan or Nicklaus or Nelson. Didn't see any of them throwing clubs.
> He's just a big baby that has to have a little fit every time he
> doesn't get his way.
Remember Tom Weiskopf?
>
> OK, you've got one instance each for Couples and Love. Got any others?
> And they have been around longer than Tiger. Tiger blows up more often
> than he doesn't lately.
Nope. Tiger gets *covered* far more than any golfer... ...ever...
...including Jack and Arnie.
>
> Ken
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++
> On Feb 14, 8:38 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> > On 14 Feb 2007 19:54:06 -0800, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >Never seen or heard of one single instance that matches the three I
> > >cited in severity. Not one. You are just plain wrong about that.
> >
> > You don't remember Couples saying "Fuck", or derivatives of the word,
> > several times...on camera? Severity? You mean louder. That's just
> > ridiculous. Hell, even lady pros have said such on camera.
> >
> > > Davis Love is a gentleman and your insinuations are curious at best,
> > >fabricated at worst. He rapped s sprinkler head at the Bay Hill. It
> > >sprung a leak.
> >
> > You just look at life the way you want to see it Ken. He tore that
> > sprinkler up. Show me a sprinkler you can "rap" and do that kind of
> > damage. Incidentally, he's one of my favorite players too.
> >
> > >That is not even in the same universe as the
> > >intentional abuse (done in anger) Tiger specializes in. You know
> > >better than this.
> >
> > No, your universe is blinded. Period.
> >
> > When you first responded to the original post, why did you have to
> > make a comparison? Wouldn't it have been better to just say that you
> > admired Phil? Nope...you always have to dig at TW. That's just as
> > bad as the TW apologists that you mention, who fawn over everything he
> > does. He's just a pro golfer...the best in the world...but has his
> > good and bad, as everyone else.
> >
> > <clip>
> >
> > >If I acted like Tiger does on a regular basis, you would never be
> > >willing to play golf with me.
> >
> > That's simply not true Ken. I hear much worse from a lot of golfers.
> >
> > >What I don't understand about Phil is not pitching out to the fairway
> > >and making sure that he forced a playoff. He still could have won as
> > >Payne Stewart did in 1999. The difference between Tiger and Phil is
> > >that Phil is a good sport (can deal with the inevitible adversity golf
> > >gives us all) and Tiger OTOH cannot control his emotions. He did more
> > >than just shrug. He didn't play for weeks. Cancelled out of a
> > >scheduled appearance. It was a cruel blow and he dealt with it with
> > >introspection.
> >
> > He just shrugged his shoulders. He has no passion.
> >
> >
> >
> > >Ken
> >
> > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > >On Feb 14, 7:09 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> > >> From day one, before he ever played a shot as a pro, you were down on
> > >> him. Some accused you of being a racist, but I know better. You just
> > >> didn't like him pushing Jack out of the picture. All of the things
> > >> you say above have been done by others, as has been pointed out to you
> > >> over and over. Davis Love, Couples, and others, have said and done
> > >> such....and probably more. Frankly, it's meaningful to me that they
> > >> have that kind of passion.....but they aren't under the microscope as
> > >> Tiger is . Your dislike for him is magnified by that.
> >
> > >> What I can't understand is how passive Phil was when he threw away the
> > >> Open. He just shrugged.
> >
> > >> ___,
> > >> \o
> > >>
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 21:06:34
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 14, 8:38 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 14 Feb 2007 19:54:06 -0800, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Never seen or heard of one single instance that matches the three I
> >cited in severity. Not one. You are just plain wrong about that.
>
> You don't remember Couples saying "Fuck", or derivatives of the word,
> several times...on camera? Severity? You mean louder. That's just
> ridiculous. Hell, even lady pros have said such on camera.
>
> > Davis Love is a gentleman and your insinuations are curious at best,
> >fabricated at worst. He rapped s sprinkler head at the Bay Hill. It
> >sprung a leak.
>
> You just look at life the way you want to see it Ken. He tore that
> sprinkler up. Show me a sprinkler you can "rap" and do that kind of
> damage. Incidentally, he's one of my favorite players too.
>
> >That is not even in the same universe as the
> >intentional abuse (done in anger) Tiger specializes in. You know
> >better than this.
>
> No, your universe is blinded. Period.
>
> When you first responded to the original post, why did you have to
> make a comparison? Wouldn't it have been better to just say that you
> admired Phil? Nope...you always have to dig at TW. That's just as
> bad as the TW apologists that you mention, who fawn over everything he
> does. He's just a pro golfer...the best in the world...but has his
> good and bad, as everyone else.
>
> <clip>
>
> >If I acted like Tiger does on a regular basis, you would never be
> >willing to play golf with me.
>
> That's simply not true Ken. I hear much worse from a lot of golfers.
>
> >What I don't understand about Phil is not pitching out to the fairway
> >and making sure that he forced a playoff. He still could have won as
> >Payne Stewart did in 1999. The difference between Tiger and Phil is
> >that Phil is a good sport (can deal with the inevitible adversity golf
> >gives us all) and Tiger OTOH cannot control his emotions. He did more
> >than just shrug. He didn't play for weeks. Cancelled out of a
> >scheduled appearance. It was a cruel blow and he dealt with it with
> >introspection.
>
> He just shrugged his shoulders. He has no passion.
>
>
>
> >Ken
>
> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> >On Feb 14, 7:09 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >> From day one, before he ever played a shot as a pro, you were down on
> >> him. Some accused you of being a racist, but I know better. You just
> >> didn't like him pushing Jack out of the picture. All of the things
> >> you say above have been done by others, as has been pointed out to you
> >> over and over. Davis Love, Couples, and others, have said and done
> >> such....and probably more. Frankly, it's meaningful to me that they
> >> have that kind of passion.....but they aren't under the microscope as
> >> Tiger is . Your dislike for him is magnified by that.
>
> >> What I can't understand is how passive Phil was when he threw away the
> >> Open. He just shrugged.
>
> >> ___,
> >> \o
> >>
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 20:52:50
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Feb 13, 11:29 pm, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> I can only imagine how the sycophants in the media and the star-struck
> hero-worshipers in this group would be doing back flips if Tiger made
> such a generous commitment from his own pocket. Never happen with
> Tiger. Just ask the dealers and cocktail waitresses at the Rio in
> LasVegas.
Why bring Tiger into this? I've never heard about Jack Nicklaus ever
giving anybody anything, so why don't you rag on him?
Next time you're at the roulette wheel at the Rio why not place a
wager dedicated to Tiger's next Tour appearance?
"BLACK 8."
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 19:54:06
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
Never seen or heard of one single instance that matches the three I
cited in severity. Not one. You are just plain wrong about that. Davis
Love is a gentleman and your insinuations are curious at best,
fabricated at worst. He rapped s sprinkler head at the Bay Hill. It
sprung a leak. That is not even in the same universe as the
intentional abuse (done in anger) Tiger specializes in. You know
better than this.
Damaging a green right by the hole at a US Open cannot be trivialized
as you just have. He should have been penalized shots at the very
least and DQ'ed with any repeat performance. To top it off, neither he
not Steve completely repaired the damage. Arrogant.
If I acted like Tiger does on a regular basis, you would never be
willing to play golf with me.
What I don't understand about Phil is not pitching out to the fairway
and making sure that he forced a playoff. He still could have won as
Payne Stewart did in 1999. The difference between Tiger and Phil is
that Phil is a good sport (can deal with the inevitible adversity golf
gives us all) and Tiger OTOH cannot control his emotions. He did more
than just shrug. He didn't play for weeks. Cancelled out of a
scheduled appearance. It was a cruel blow and he dealt with it with
introspection.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 14, 7:09 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> From day one, before he ever played a shot as a pro, you were down on
> him. Some accused you of being a racist, but I know better. You just
> didn't like him pushing Jack out of the picture. All of the things
> you say above have been done by others, as has been pointed out to you
> over and over. Davis Love, Couples, and others, have said and done
> such....and probably more. Frankly, it's meaningful to me that they
> have that kind of passion.....but they aren't under the microscope as
> Tiger is . Your dislike for him is magnified by that.
>
> What I can't understand is how passive Phil was when he threw away the
> Open. He just shrugged.
>
> ___,
> \o
>
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 04:38:04
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On 14 Feb 2007 19:54:06 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>Never seen or heard of one single instance that matches the three I
>cited in severity. Not one. You are just plain wrong about that.
You don't remember Couples saying "Fuck", or derivatives of the word,
several times...on camera? Severity? You mean louder. That's just
ridiculous. Hell, even lady pros have said such on camera.
> Davis Love is a gentleman and your insinuations are curious at best,
>fabricated at worst. He rapped s sprinkler head at the Bay Hill. It
>sprung a leak.
You just look at life the way you want to see it Ken. He tore that
sprinkler up. Show me a sprinkler you can "rap" and do that kind of
damage. Incidentally, he's one of my favorite players too.
>That is not even in the same universe as the
>intentional abuse (done in anger) Tiger specializes in. You know
>better than this.
No, your universe is blinded. Period.
When you first responded to the original post, why did you have to
make a comparison? Wouldn't it have been better to just say that you
admired Phil? Nope...you always have to dig at TW. That's just as
bad as the TW apologists that you mention, who fawn over everything he
does. He's just a pro golfer...the best in the world...but has his
good and bad, as everyone else.
<clip >
>If I acted like Tiger does on a regular basis, you would never be
>willing to play golf with me.
That's simply not true Ken. I hear much worse from a lot of golfers.
>
>What I don't understand about Phil is not pitching out to the fairway
>and making sure that he forced a playoff. He still could have won as
>Payne Stewart did in 1999. The difference between Tiger and Phil is
>that Phil is a good sport (can deal with the inevitible adversity golf
>gives us all) and Tiger OTOH cannot control his emotions. He did more
>than just shrug. He didn't play for weeks. Cancelled out of a
>scheduled appearance. It was a cruel blow and he dealt with it with
>introspection.
>
He just shrugged his shoulders. He has no passion.
>Ken
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>On Feb 14, 7:09 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> From day one, before he ever played a shot as a pro, you were down on
>> him. Some accused you of being a racist, but I know better. You just
>> didn't like him pushing Jack out of the picture. All of the things
>> you say above have been done by others, as has been pointed out to you
>> over and over. Davis Love, Couples, and others, have said and done
>> such....and probably more. Frankly, it's meaningful to me that they
>> have that kind of passion.....but they aren't under the microscope as
>> Tiger is . Your dislike for him is magnified by that.
>>
>> What I can't understand is how passive Phil was when he threw away the
>> Open. He just shrugged.
>>
>> ___,
>> \o
>>
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 08:12:29
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:38:04 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:
>>If I acted like Tiger does on a regular basis, you would never be
>>willing to play golf with me.
>
>That's simply not true Ken. I hear much worse from a lot of golfers.
Who hasn't?
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 18:42:01
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
Bobby, you cannot be serious. <in the famous words of John MacEnroe. >
I will cite three instances.
Screaming "Gddmn fckng prck!" live on ABC at the 2000 US Open.
Tearing a huge gash in a tee box at the 1998 PGA.
Oh, lest we forget the green that he tore up at the US Open a couple
of years ago.
I've been attending the Colonial & the Nelson/Dallas Open since the
60's. Plus other events not on a regular basis. I've never seen one
instance of behavior that approaches any of these. And they were all
three done at majors.
I say that Tiger is a hot-head and it appears that he will not be
cured. No matter how much he wins. He shows his ass at nearly every
event.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 14, 6:21 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> Tiger's outbursts are probably no worse than most, except he's
> followed so closely. Phil, in that respect, is pretty quiet.
>
> Unfortunately neither of you actually know either of them, except by
> rumor and what you read. It could be exactly the opposite as far as
> we know, with an emphasis on the word know.
> bk- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 03:09:22
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On 14 Feb 2007 18:42:01 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>Bobby, you cannot be serious. <in the famous words of John MacEnroe.>
>
>I will cite three instances.
>
>Screaming "Gddmn fckng prck!" live on ABC at the 2000 US Open.
>Tearing a huge gash in a tee box at the 1998 PGA.
>Oh, lest we forget the green that he tore up at the US Open a couple
>of years ago.
>
>I've been attending the Colonial & the Nelson/Dallas Open since the
>60's. Plus other events not on a regular basis. I've never seen one
>instance of behavior that approaches any of these. And they were all
>three done at majors.
>
>I say that Tiger is a hot-head and it appears that he will not be
>cured. No matter how much he wins. He shows his ass at nearly every
>event.
>
>Ken
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From day one, before he ever played a shot as a pro, you were down on
him. Some accused you of being a racist, but I know better. You just
didn't like him pushing Jack out of the picture. All of the things
you say above have been done by others, as has been pointed out to you
over and over. Davis Love, Couples, and others, have said and done
such....and probably more. Frankly, it's meaningful to me that they
have that kind of passion.....but they aren't under the microscope as
Tiger is . Your dislike for him is magnified by that.
What I can't understand is how passive Phil was when he threw away the
Open. He just shrugged.
___,
\o
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 18:14:50
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
I agree.
Ken
++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 14, 9:38 am, r...@verizon.net wrote:
>
> My opinion on the subject is this:
>
> Tiger is the better golfer.
>
> Phil is the better person.
>
> Bob W.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 10:33:11
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
The word is that he does not tip at all. In that town betting at the
levels he does, it's a good way to end up wearing one of those "free"
drinks or to get dealt a "second" when the top card is an Ace.
The biggest tipper I ever saw was at the Golden Nugget downtown. For
some reason this guy wanted to play on the $5 min craps table. I guess
he wanted to feel like one of the "boys". There were about six "suits"
watching the action. He was betting $50K on the line and backing that
up with $100K odds. He would place the 6 and the 8 for either $30K or
$60K. I estimated that he had at least $1M in front of him. Any tips
he made for the dealers were made with purple checks ($500). The
waitresses were tipped in black ($100) and usually a stack of those. I
left after about 10 minutes because I felt completely in the way with
my $5 and $10 bets. You could not tell if this guy was winning or
losing.
I'm not saying Tiger should tip like this guy, but it wouldn't hurt
him to let loose with a "greenie" ever once in a while.
My best win in Vegas. I won $3000 playing dice in the last two hours I
was there one time. I went and cashed in at the Flamingo with barely
enough time to make my flight. I held on to one "greenie" ($25). It
was at that time about a $7 cab ride to McCarron. I gave the cabbie
the green check and told American Airlines on the double. He got me
there in about 5 minutes and earned his 250% tip. In that town money
talks and the rest walks.
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 16, 7:35 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net > wrote:
> On 15 Feb 2007 19:02:00 -0800, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >The last time I was in LasVegas, I had heard in advance that he is
> >known for not tipping. I dropped his name all over town and everyone
> >who expressed an opinion said the same thing. He's cheap. He has that
> >reputation all over town. I don't have to go to the Rio to find that
> >out. Those dealers are pretty close-knit group.
>
> Tipping to the standards that they are hoping for is not at all the
> same thing as being charitable to those who need charity.
>
> People recognize him and hope that he tips differently than you or I
> tip, drop us and go to him. When he tips the going rate, they get
> mad that someone that wealthy and famous doesn't tip more. But
> tipping is purchasing a service, just like buying anything else. Do
> we expect him to pay twice as much at the grocery store?
>
> Charity is something completely different.
>
> We are aware that his public charity is well funded and does good. In
> that case, his name helps get it extra funding from corporations and
> givers who want to be associated with him - so by being public, it
> does more good than if it was private.
>
> We don't know what he does or doesn't give anonymously.
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 02:21:58
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On 14 Feb 2007 18:14:50 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>I agree.
>
>Ken
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>On Feb 14, 9:38 am, r...@verizon.net wrote:
>
>>
>> My opinion on the subject is this:
>>
>> Tiger is the better golfer.
>>
>> Phil is the better person.
>>
>> Bob W.
>
Tiger's outbursts are probably no worse than most, except he's
followed so closely. Phil, in that respect, is pretty quiet.
Unfortunately neither of you actually know either of them, except by
rumor and what you read. It could be exactly the opposite as far as
we know, with an emphasis on the word know.
bk
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 14:05:02
From: The World Wide Wade
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
In article <lng7t2h9q64pjjdi95m805qu8kko88bse7@4ax.com >,
Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote:
> Tiger's outbursts are probably no worse than most, except he's
> followed so closely.
That's complete nonsense.
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 22:17:33
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:05:02 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net > wrote:
>In article <lng7t2h9q64pjjdi95m805qu8kko88bse7@4ax.com>,
> Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net> wrote:
>
>> Tiger's outbursts are probably no worse than most, except he's
>> followed so closely.
>
>That's complete nonsense.
Nonsense is even questioning that statement!!!
Aren't you aware of the bitchers that moan about all of the air time
that he gets on every tournament? He can't pick his nose without
over coverage.
I don't know how many pro tournaments you've gone to, but I've been to
a bunch....and seen clubs thrown, m-f shouted, and pissed players
galore. However, they weren't even on the radar, much less TV, or any
coverage for that matter.
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 04:51:01
From: frank ross
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
Bobby Knight wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:05:02 -0800, The World Wide Wade
> <waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <lng7t2h9q64pjjdi95m805qu8kko88bse7@4ax.com>,
>> Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Tiger's outbursts are probably no worse than most, except he's
>>> followed so closely.
>> That's complete nonsense.
>
> Nonsense is even questioning that statement!!!
>
> Aren't you aware of the bitchers that moan about all of the air time
> that he gets on every tournament? He can't pick his nose without
> over coverage.
>
You're entirely correct. However, Tiger knows that too. He could back
off some.
Frank Ross
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 04:01:06
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote:
: On 14 Feb 2007 18:14:50 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
:
: >I agree.
: >
: >Ken
: >
: >++++++++++++++++++++++
: >
: >On Feb 14, 9:38 am, r...@verizon.net wrote:
: >
: >>
: >> My opinion on the subject is this:
: >>
: >> Tiger is the better golfer.
: >>
: >> Phil is the better person.
: >>
: >> Bob W.
: >
: Tiger's outbursts are probably no worse than most, except he's
: followed so closely. Phil, in that respect, is pretty quiet.
:
: Unfortunately neither of you actually know either of them, except by
: rumor and what you read. It could be exactly the opposite as far as
: we know, with an emphasis on the word know.
I think I'm a better person than either of them. It's compensation
for my being such a shitty golfer.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 09:15:50
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:01:06 GMT, Chris Bellomy
<puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
>Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net> wrote:
>: On 14 Feb 2007 18:14:50 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>:
>:>I agree.
>:>
>:>Ken
>:>
>:>++++++++++++++++++++++
>:>
>:>On Feb 14, 9:38 am, r...@verizon.net wrote:
>:>
>:>>
>:>> My opinion on the subject is this:
>:>>
>:>> Tiger is the better golfer.
>:>>
>:>> Phil is the better person.
>:>>
>:>> Bob W.
>:>
>: Tiger's outbursts are probably no worse than most, except he's
>: followed so closely. Phil, in that respect, is pretty quiet.
>:
>: Unfortunately neither of you actually know either of them, except by
>: rumor and what you read. It could be exactly the opposite as far as
>: we know, with an emphasis on the word know.
>
>I think I'm a better person than either of them. It's compensation
>for my being such a shitty golfer.
You must be able to walk on water to make up for the way you play
golf.
--
jvdp
Start clearing your calendars
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 21:44:35
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > wrote:
: On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:01:06 GMT, Chris Bellomy
: <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
:
: >Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net> wrote:
: >: On 14 Feb 2007 18:14:50 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
: >:
: >:>I agree.
: >:>
: >:>Ken
: >:>
: >:>++++++++++++++++++++++
: >:>
: >:>On Feb 14, 9:38 am, r...@verizon.net wrote:
: >:>
: >:>>
: >:>> My opinion on the subject is this:
: >:>>
: >:>> Tiger is the better golfer.
: >:>>
: >:>> Phil is the better person.
: >:>>
: >:>> Bob W.
: >:>
: >: Tiger's outbursts are probably no worse than most, except he's
: >: followed so closely. Phil, in that respect, is pretty quiet.
: >:
: >: Unfortunately neither of you actually know either of them, except by
: >: rumor and what you read. It could be exactly the opposite as far as
: >: we know, with an emphasis on the word know.
: >
: >I think I'm a better person than either of them. It's compensation
: >for my being such a shitty golfer.
:
: You must be able to walk on water to make up for the way you play
: golf.
Ok, I'm a bit of an asshole, I guess.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 14:29:49
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
|
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:15:50 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > wrote:
>>:>> My opinion on the subject is this:
>>:>>
>>:>> Tiger is the better golfer.
>>:>>
>>:>> Phil is the better person.
>>:>>
>>:>> Bob W.
>On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:01:06 GMT, Chris Bellomy wrote:
>>I think I'm a better person than either of them. It's compensation
>>for my being such a shitty golfer.
>
>You must be able to walk on water to make up for the way you play
>golf.
Ouch. You're gonna pay for that!!
--
___,
\o
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 09:59:50
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:29:49 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:15:50 -0500, John van der Pflum
><nowhammymyspammy@bite.org> wrote:
>
>>>:>> My opinion on the subject is this:
>>>:>>
>>>:>> Tiger is the better golfer.
>>>:>>
>>>:>> Phil is the better person.
>>>:>>
>>>:>> Bob W.
>
>
>>On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:01:06 GMT, Chris Bellomy wrote:
>
>>>I think I'm a better person than either of them. It's compensation
>>>for my being such a shitty golfer.
>>
>>You must be able to walk on water to make up for the way you play
>>golf.
>
>Ouch. You're gonna pay for that!!
Nah, Bellomy is too chicken to show up in Cincinnati.
--
jvdp
Start clearing your calendars
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 18:13:54
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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I don't like Tiger because of his continuous profane histrionics on
the golf course. (Wasn't that him throwing clubs at Dubai the other
day?).
I don't like fanatical Tiger fans because they make excuses and
generally have a blind spot when it comes to his antics. I'll take any
chance to needle them, especially since most of them are ignoramuses
when it comes to the game.
Additioally, Tiger has more money than God. Try dropping his name in
Las Vegas. All over town the word is that he has yet to cut loose with
any kind of tip. Tough reputation to have in a town that runs on
gratuities. He cold learn a lot about generosity from Phil.
You can't be this dumb. Eh?
Ken
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Feb 14, 1:48 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> In article <1171427344.692284.267...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Tell us all again how it isn't about Tiger and is all about his
> swearing...
>
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 05:03:24
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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In article <1171505634.542113.166830@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >,
kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> I don't like Tiger because of his continuous profane histrionics on
> the golf course. (Wasn't that him throwing clubs at Dubai the other
> day?).
>
> I don't like fanatical Tiger fans because they make excuses and
> generally have a blind spot when it comes to his antics. I'll take any
> chance to needle them, especially since most of them are ignoramuses
> when it comes to the game.
>
> Additioally, Tiger has more money than God. Try dropping his name in
> Las Vegas. All over town the word is that he has yet to cut loose with
> any kind of tip. Tough reputation to have in a town that runs on
> gratuities. He cold learn a lot about generosity from Phil.
>
> You can't be this dumb. Eh?
What of any of it?
Why was it necessary to say so in your previous post? What made bringing
Tiger up *at all* a necessity for you?
>
> Ken
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> On Feb 14, 1:48 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <1171427344.692284.267...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Tell us all again how it isn't about Tiger and is all about his
> > swearing...
> >
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 04:46:00
From: Manco
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> I don't like Tiger because of his continuous profane histrionics on
> the golf course. (Wasn't that him throwing clubs at Dubai the other
> day?).
>
> I don't like fanatical Tiger fans because they make excuses and
> generally have a blind spot when it comes to his antics. I'll take any
> chance to needle them, especially since most of them are ignoramuses
> when it comes to the game.
>
> Additioally, Tiger has more money than God. Try dropping his name in
> Las Vegas. All over town the word is that he has yet to cut loose with
> any kind of tip. Tough reputation to have in a town that runs on
> gratuities. He cold learn a lot about generosity from Phil.
>
> You can't be this dumb. Eh?
>
> Ken
>
Considering what I've read about shitty Vegas ervice in general, Tiger is
wise tio keep a titght wallet. When those motherfuckers learn how to start
performing SERVICE WITH A SMILE again, then let me know.
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 13:47:26
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel - Message to Manco
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The world is full of quiet heroes. I hope this article helps
emphasize that point. Nice ball, Phil!
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 10:56:02
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 14, 1:48 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> In article <1171427344.692284.267...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> >http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/columns/story?columnist=verdi_bob&id=2...
>
> > I was relatively certain there would be no comments about this story
> > in the group. Only the usual put-downs and a ridiculous thread about
> > Phil's kids on the 18th green at Pebble. What would cause more damage?
> > An infant child (30 to 50 lbs) running to her daddy or hundreds of
> > golfers (150 to 250 lbs) tromping on the green wearing spikes?
>
> > I can only imagine how the sycophants in the media and the star-struck
> > hero-worshipers in this group would be doing back flips if Tiger made
> > such a generous commitment from his own pocket. Never happen with
> > Tiger. Just ask the dealers and cocktail waitresses at the Rio in
> > LasVegas.
>
> Tell us all again how it isn't about Tiger and is all about his
> swearing...
Perhaps because this post isn't about TW and swearing. You're out of
your domain, Baker. Larry needs more bites, fish for brains.
-Greg
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 09:49:00
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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> What would cause more damage?
> An infant child (30 to 50 lbs) running to her daddy or hundreds of
> golfers (150 to 250 lbs) tromping on the green wearing spikes?<
Hmmm...what are these "spikes" of which you speak?
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 09:38:35
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 14, 10:03 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net > wrote:
> On 13 Feb 2007 20:29:04 -0800, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >When Phil's lawyer was asked by Conrad Dobler why Phil was helping the
> >Dobler family in such a spectacular waym the answer was "Because he
> >can.". Phil Mickelson is a generous man by nature and by inclination.
> >And it is not done as a show. He declined comment on the story at a
> >recent tournament news conference.
>
> Every once in a while, I hear about some donation that he makes that
> he apparently tries to keep quiet. I don't know whether he wants to
> keep them quiet to avoid beggars, or maybe because he does get
> embarrassed the way he sometimes appears to be after a great shot.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
My opinion on the subject is this:
Tiger is the better golfer.
Phil is the better person.
Bob W.
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Date: 19 Feb 2007 09:59:25
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 18, 4:14 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> In article <1171843078.142433.60...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
>
> kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > In Alan Baker's world:
>
> > It's OK for the most celebrated golfer ever to abuse courses at
> > majors, curse like a drunken sailor on national TV (even though it
> > violates every broadcasting standard known to man) and generally show
> > his ass week after week. And if anyone dares to question his behavior,
> > he gets attacked personally and called a crybaby.
>
> Wrong. You got called a crybaby for whining when someone pointed out
> your obsession with Tiger.
>
> And yes, at one point Freddie was anointed as the "next one".
>
>
>
> > Tell me something, eh? How am I a hypocrite? Tiger should act like a
> > gentleman when he is supposedly the leading proponent of a gentleman's
> > sport. How am I a hypocrite because I think he shouuld keep his temper
> > and his mouth in check?
>
> How are you a hypocrite? That's simple:
>
> You promised not to talk about Tiger Woods any more.
>
> I guess in Ken Pitts' world, it's OK to break your word.
>
>
>
> > You have done nothing but attack me for years. You lied about me WRT
> > supposdly "helicoptering" a putter. I don't get it. Are you Tiger's
> > gay lover or something. I don"t get it
>
> Do you want to get personal, Ken? Is that your level of maturity:
> juvenile homosexual references?
>
> You're a crybaby -- a whiner. And that's the simple truth.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ken
>
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> > On Feb 18, 2:51 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > > In article <1171838558.923685.286...@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Hey dipshit, has Fred been annointed the "savior of golf"? Showered
> > > > with millions of dollars for just showing up and making a few
> > > > commercials? And all the rest? Not to mention the mindless adulation.
> > > > He should act the part of champ instead of a crybaby chump.
>
> > > > Thought not my ass................
>
> > > > Once again, I have never said that Tiger is the only one. But, given
> > > > his position, he should be a shining example for the game of golf, not
> > > > a reason for excuse-making.
>
> > > > Now, go play in traffic like you ought to. Don't like it? Sue me. See
> > > > you in court.
>
> > > Good god, but your a baby.
>
> > > You whine and whine about Tiger Woods, but if someone comes along and
> > > points out what a huge hypocrite you are, you go ballistic.
>
> > > Here's the deal, Ken:
>
> > > You get to whine about Tiger -- I get to point out that your a whining
> > > crybaby.
>
> > > Don't like it? Sue me.
>
> > > > Ken
>
> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > On Feb 18, 1:49 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > But can we expect you to now mention Freddie's outbursts every time you
> > > > > go on (and you *do* go on) about Tiger?
>
> > > > > Thought not.
>
> > > --
> > > "The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
> > > "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
> > > the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
>
> --
> "The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
> "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
> the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The irony is that Alan Baker is involved in every LLLarry thread ever
created, yet he's all over Ken for talking about Tiger.
-Greg
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 18:01:10
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On 14 Feb 2007 09:38:35 -0800, raw1@verizon.net wrote:
>On Feb 14, 10:03 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>> On 13 Feb 2007 20:29:04 -0800, kenpitt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >When Phil's lawyer was asked by Conrad Dobler why Phil was helping the
>> >Dobler family in such a spectacular waym the answer was "Because he
>> >can.". Phil Mickelson is a generous man by nature and by inclination.
>> >And it is not done as a show. He declined comment on the story at a
>> >recent tournament news conference.
>>
>> Every once in a while, I hear about some donation that he makes that
>> he apparently tries to keep quiet. I don't know whether he wants to
>> keep them quiet to avoid beggars, or maybe because he does get
>> embarrassed the way he sometimes appears to be after a great shot.
>
>,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>
>My opinion on the subject is this:
>
>Tiger is the better golfer.
>
>Phil is the better person.
>
>Bob W.
My opinion:
Tiger is the better golfer.
Opinions about one person being better than another are vapid.
--
___,
\o
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 08:03:08
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On 13 Feb 2007 20:29:04 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>When Phil's lawyer was asked by Conrad Dobler why Phil was helping the
>Dobler family in such a spectacular waym the answer was "Because he
>can.". Phil Mickelson is a generous man by nature and by inclination.
>And it is not done as a show. He declined comment on the story at a
>recent tournament news conference.
Every once in a while, I hear about some donation that he makes that
he apparently tries to keep quiet. I don't know whether he wants to
keep them quiet to avoid beggars, or maybe because he does get
embarrassed the way he sometimes appears to be after a great shot.
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 12:54:07
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 15, 1:18 pm, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspa...@bite.org >
wrote:
> How 'bout them Titans? Oh yeah, I forgot.
>
> They suck.
Hey, at least we got V-Y.
The Bengals are hoping to go 10-6 next year.
10 arrests, 6 convictions.
What were they this year, 8-8?
"For their #1 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft the Cincinnati Bengals select
Johnnie Cochran." Oh wait, he's dead! Like the Bengals playoff
chances.
I actually am a Bengals fan, especially Ocho Cinco."
He's my new favorite player ...a nice guy who likes to run his mouth a
little.
http://www.chadjohnson85.com/
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 16:09:59
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On 15 Feb 2007 12:54:07 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
wrote:
>On Feb 15, 1:18 pm, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspa...@bite.org>
>wrote:
>
>> How 'bout them Titans? Oh yeah, I forgot.
>>
>> They suck.
>
>Hey, at least we got V-Y.
>
>The Bengals are hoping to go 10-6 next year.
>10 arrests, 6 convictions.
>
>What were they this year, 8-8?
>
>"For their #1 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft the Cincinnati Bengals select
>Johnnie Cochran." Oh wait, he's dead! Like the Bengals playoff
>chances.
>
>I actually am a Bengals fan, especially Ocho Cinco."
>He's my new favorite player ...a nice guy who likes to run his mouth a
>little.
>http://www.chadjohnson85.com/
>
>
Ah, yeah, 8-8. Choked pretty bad in the last games.
You can have your VY. Wait until Ray Lewis lays him out a couple of
times. I'll take CP over VY any day.
I love Chad. He's the man.
--
jvdp
Start clearing your calendars
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 06:16:55
From: EdSmithers
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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> Kids:
> Tiger 0.5
> Phil 3
Yes, but Phil had a head start, and once Tiger gets going, his kids
will be more plentiful and much bigger. I predict Tiger Jr. will whomp
Phil's ass at next year's Pebble Beach, unheard of for an infant, but
certainly reasonable given his swimsuit model / golf champ genes.
Ed
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 06:03:34
From: cja
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On Feb 14, 4:14 am, "Manco" <manco_doll...@net2blah.com > wrote:
> Puh-leese. Phat Phil only does things like this for the pub-factor. He can't
> escape this:
>
> Majors: Tiger 12, Phil 3
> Wins: Tiger 55, Phil 30
>
Kids:
Tiger 0.5
Phil 3
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 05:50:23
From: EdSmithers
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel - Message to Manco
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> Puh-leese. Phat Phil only does things like this for the pub-factor. He can't
> escape this:
>
> Majors:
>
> Tiger 12
> Phil 3
>
> Wins
>
> Tiger 55
> Phil 30
I'm dead serious when I ask, what exactly is it you want from this
newsgroup? Would it make you happy if everyone just typed, "We jerk
off to Tiger just like Manco"? Would that ease your pain? Would that
shut you the fuck up?
Because I'll say it. I'll do anything to get you to say something
other than "Tiger is great" all the time in your slim variety of
ways.
Is anyone disputing the numbers? If all you have as ammuniton that
Tiger has won more, then why do you keep repeating them?
Tiger certainly has beaten the hell out of the tour since he's been
playing, and he's a rekable and brilliant golfer with a single-
minded focus when things are going best. And he does seem to
absolutely be able to intimidate most players on Sundays. But he's not
my Jesus.
I enjoy the pro game, and love what a lot of the players bring to it.
I know that Davis Love's numbers don't even come close to Tiger's, but
I sure love watching him play. I love watching Phil, and vel at his
unpredictability. I could watch Sergio play all day, and yes Tiger
thumped on Sunday at the British, but so what? I don't know how old
you are, but listen, man, most of us don't win all the time. Most of
us don't win at much in our lives. We survive, we thrive sometimes.
Some of us get some lucky breaks. Once a year I do something at work
that makes me pretty proud. Even on the golf course I have a couple of
rounds where I feel like I'm starting to understand the game.
I'd urge you to find something to direct your attention to beyond
stating how many wins Tiger has. Seriously, it's time to get a life
beyond that. Celebrate it. Love it. Watch Tiger and watch that number
grow when he occasionally plays a tournament. But go on a date, my
brother, and pat a dog's head. And stay off the newsgroup a bit if all
you're going to say is the same damn shit.
Ed
Ed
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 16:00:05
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel - Message to Manco
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"EdSmithers" <spirosdarlotts@yahoo.com > wrote ...
>
>> Puh-leese. Phat Phil only does things like this for the pub-factor. He
>> can't
>> escape this:
>>
>> Majors:
>>
>> Tiger 12
>> Phil 3
>>
>> Wins
>>
>> Tiger 55
>> Phil 30
>
>
> I'm dead serious when I ask, what exactly is it you want from this
> newsgroup? Would it make you happy if everyone just typed, "We jerk
> off to Tiger just like Manco"? Would that ease your pain? Would that
> shut you the fuck up?
>
> Because I'll say it. I'll do anything to get you to say something
> other than "Tiger is great" all the time in your slim variety of
> ways.
>
> Is anyone disputing the numbers? If all you have as ammuniton that
> Tiger has won more, then why do you keep repeating them?
>
> Tiger certainly has beaten the hell out of the tour since he's been
> playing, and he's a rekable and brilliant golfer with a single-
> minded focus when things are going best. And he does seem to
> absolutely be able to intimidate most players on Sundays. But he's not
> my Jesus.
>
> I enjoy the pro game, and love what a lot of the players bring to it.
> I know that Davis Love's numbers don't even come close to Tiger's, but
> I sure love watching him play. I love watching Phil, and vel at his
> unpredictability. I could watch Sergio play all day, and yes Tiger
> thumped on Sunday at the British, but so what? I don't know how old
> you are, but listen, man, most of us don't win all the time. Most of
> us don't win at much in our lives. We survive, we thrive sometimes.
> Some of us get some lucky breaks. Once a year I do something at work
> that makes me pretty proud. Even on the golf course I have a couple of
> rounds where I feel like I'm starting to understand the game.
>
> I'd urge you to find something to direct your attention to beyond
> stating how many wins Tiger has. Seriously, it's time to get a life
> beyond that. Celebrate it. Love it. Watch Tiger and watch that number
> grow when he occasionally plays a tournament. But go on a date, my
> brother, and pat a dog's head. And stay off the newsgroup a bit if all
> you're going to say is the same damn shit.
>
> Ed
Look, I share Manco's admiration of Tiger. Well, sort of. Anyway, it's
fair to say I'm a big fan.
But what Manco and those drooling Tiger jock-sniffers fail to acknowledge is
what makes Tiger's accomplishments on TOUR so spectacular, and indeed,
historic in golf. (For that matter, most Tiger-bashers fail to acknowledge
it, too.)
Certainly, ANY ONE OF US could win at the same ridiculous rate that Tiger
does if our competition was so weak that we could dominate them in that
fashion. But Tiger's competition is world-class. Say what you will about
Phil, Ernie, Davis, Retief, and all the rest, the truth is, any one of them
might have been considered a dominant player of this era had Tiger chosen a
career in dentistry, carpentry or veterinary medicine instead of golf.
These are really, really, really good players that he's beaten to achieve
his record! Mickelson's career numbers, for example, put him in very elite
company in the history of the sport -- yes, even with his failures in
certain major championships that he had a chance to win, but didn't. Ernie
Els' career has been stellar, as well. The same can be said of numerous
other players of this era.
So while it's true that Tiger has demonstrated a rekable level of
domination over a full decade on the PGA TOUR, that accomplishment wouldn't
mean nearly as much if it weren't for the fact that he's done it in the face
of such superb talent shown by his fellow competitors.
In other words, Tiger needs his competition to be that good for his record
to be so damn impressive. And those Tiger-lovers who dismiss Tiger's
competition as weak are unwittingly saying that they think their favorite
player isn't as good as his record suggests. I, on the other hand, prefer
to believe that Tiger is beating a GREAT generation of players, which serves
to raise my level of amazement when I consider his dominant record against
them.
When I was a teenager, I would often play touch football after school with a
bunch of the neighbor kids who would gather at my house. But most of the
kids on my block were much younger and much smaller (grade school and junior
high kids). So my accomplishment of having such a stellar W-L record as the
quarterback of my team isn't quite as impressive as it would have been if
the other team had been of equal size, speed and skill.
Similarly, Tiger's accomplishments are only impressive because of the
caliber of talent he's so consistently vanquished. He hasn't exactly been
beating a bunch of grade schoolers out there.
He just makes them look like it by comparison.
THAT is what makes his record so impressive.
Randy
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 21:19:32
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel - Message to Manco
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In article <1171461023.140076.108430@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >
"EdSmithers" <spirosdarlotts@yahoo.com > wrote:
Good one Ed. Sort of like the old timers who always told us that it's not the destination so much as the journey. That's hard to always subject yourself to on the golf course but the longer you play, the more clear it becomes.
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 08:37:45
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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On 13 Feb 2007 20:29:04 -0800, kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
>http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/columns/story?columnist=verdi_bob&id=2756572
>
Way to go, Phil.
--
jvdp
Start clearing your calendars
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 09:48:44
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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In article <1171427344.692284.267460@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/columns/story?columnist=verdi_bob&id=2756572
>
> I was relatively certain there would be no comments about this story
> in the group. Only the usual put-downs and a ridiculous thread about
> Phil's kids on the 18th green at Pebble. What would cause more damage?
> An infant child (30 to 50 lbs) running to her daddy or hundreds of
> golfers (150 to 250 lbs) tromping on the green wearing spikes?
>
> I can only imagine how the sycophants in the media and the star-struck
> hero-worshipers in this group would be doing back flips if Tiger made
> such a generous commitment from his own pocket. Never happen with
> Tiger. Just ask the dealers and cocktail waitresses at the Rio in
> LasVegas.
Tell us all again how it isn't about Tiger and is all about his
swearing...
>
> I have first hand knowledge that Phil left a $10K tip for the locker
> room staff at Colonial when he won there.
>
> When Phil's lawyer was asked by Conrad Dobler why Phil was helping the
> Dobler family in such a spectacular waym the answer was "Because he
> can.". Phil Mickelson is a generous man by nature and by inclination.
> And it is not done as a show. He declined comment on the story at a
> recent tournament news conference.
>
> God bless Phil and his family. Our country and our world need more
> like him.
>
> Best regards to my friends in RSG. Reports of my demise have been
> greatly exaggerated. I am working in the DFW area if anyone who can
> stand my company would like to play. FWIW, my game is not what it used
> to be. But I still would enjoy a game.
>
> YMMV
>
> Ken
>
> ken_pittsjr@yahoo.com
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 09:14:04
From: Manco
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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kenpittsjr@gmail.com wrote:
> http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/columns/story?columnist=verdi_bob&id=2756572
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> I was relatively certain there would be no comments about this story
> in the group. Only the usual put-downs and a ridiculous thread about
> Phil's kids on the 18th green at Pebble. What would cause more damage?
> An infant child (30 to 50 lbs) running to her daddy or hundreds of
> golfers (150 to 250 lbs) tromping on the green wearing spikes?
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Puh-leese. Phat Phil only does things like this for the pub-factor. He can't
escape this:
Majors:
Tiger 12
Phil 3
Wins
Tiger 55
Phil 30
Phil needs to distract our attention from those vital numbers.
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Date: 13 Feb 2007 21:33:07
From:
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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thanks for posting that... good for phil..
i don't understand though... isn't OJ Simpson making over $300K per
year on his football pension? conrad dobler played for awhile in the
league and i think he was a little bit later than the juice (started
later, they were definitely in league at same time) so his pension
should be better per year of service (although he might have fewer
years than the juice)
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 08:47:38
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: Phil Mickelson - An Angel
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<motofrankster@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1171431187.709520.60340@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> thanks for posting that... good for phil..
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> i don't understand though... isn't OJ Simpson making over $300K per
> year on his football pension? conrad dobler played for awhile in the
> league and i think he was a little bit later than the juice (started
> later, they were definitely in league at same time) so his pension
> should be better per year of service (although he might have fewer
> years than the juice)
>
And he has fewer homicides to his credit than the juice thus shouldn't have
as many civil fines to pay.
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