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Date: 08 Mar 2007 20:46:24
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: PLay The Masters earlier

The majors are too close together.

Date: 19 Mar 2007 12:19:30
From: dsc
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 19, 9:56 am, "me" <oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote:
> On 19, 9:18 am, "sfb" <s...@spam.net> wrote:
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>
> > "me" <oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message
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> >news:1174308667.431281.180900@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
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> > > The players themselves already consider TPC to be the 5th most
> > > important tournament of the year. There are alot of reasons for that,
> > > amongst them is the exemptions that comes along with it. The
> > > truth is that, by the players measure, there are more than 4 important
> > > tournaments. There are certain tournaments that players want to win
> > > during their career. I think the Ryder Cup team is one of those
> > > accomplishments that most players want
>
> > File under biting the hand that feeds you - when the PGA Tour is making
> > nice, they talk the TPC as number 5.
>
> > In reality, many think it 4th ahead of the British Open and maybe after a
> > few adult beverages 3rd ahead of the PGA Championship and The Open.
>
> Monty's walking down the beach and finds a latern sticking up out
> of the
> sand. He picks it up and rubs off the sand, out comes a genie.
> "Thank you for releasing me from 3000 years of captivity. In my
> gratitude I'll give you a present. You can win any four tournaments
> this year. But there is a caution. Once you win them, you'll
> never win again".
>
> Monty says:
>
> A) The TPC and......
> B) The four majors
> C) No, thanks, I'll win 'em on my own and keep the ability to keep
> winning.
> D) Can I get back to you during the next Ryder Cup?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm pretty certain at least one of them would have to be on this side
of the pond... :) There are several options for that... I have no idea
which he would choose? I'd take the 4 majors in slam fashion.

Date: 19 Mar 2007 20:56:40
From: FredK
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

>
>> Monty's walking down the beach and finds a latern sticking up out
>> of the
>> sand. He picks it up and rubs off the sand, out comes a genie.
>> "Thank you for releasing me from 3000 years of captivity. In my
>> gratitude I'll give you a present. You can win any four tournaments
>> this year. But there is a caution. Once you win them, you'll
>> never win again".
>>
>> Monty says:
>>
>> A) The TPC and......
>> B) The four majors
>> C) No, thanks, I'll win 'em on my own and keep the ability to keep
>> winning.
>> D) Can I get back to you during the next Ryder Cup?- Hide quoted text -

He picks C but the line is "No, thanks, I'll win 'em on my own". Which of
course he never will (major or near major). But I would give him credit and
respect enough to not want one "given" to him.

Date: 19 Mar 2007 13:28:09
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Genie question

On 19 2007 12:19:30 -0700, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu > wrote:

>> Monty's walking down the beach and finds a latern sticking up out
>> of the
>> sand. He picks it up and rubs off the sand, out comes a genie.
>> "Thank you for releasing me from 3000 years of captivity. In my
>> gratitude I'll give you a present. You can win any four tournaments
>> this year. But there is a caution. Once you win them, you'll
>> never win again".

Different question - you pick up the lantern and can wish any one
person who is going to play at the major of your choice this year - to
win.

Who do you want use your wish on?

Date: 19 Mar 2007 15:43:09
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Genie question

On Mon, 19 2007 13:28:09 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:

>On 19 2007 12:19:30 -0700, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu> wrote:
>
>>> Monty's walking down the beach and finds a latern sticking up out
>>> of the
>>> sand. He picks it up and rubs off the sand, out comes a genie.
>>> "Thank you for releasing me from 3000 years of captivity. In my
>>> gratitude I'll give you a present. You can win any four tournaments
>>> this year. But there is a caution. Once you win them, you'll
>>> never win again".
>
>
>Different question - you pick up the lantern and can wish any one
>person who is going to play at the major of your choice this year - to
>win.
>
>Who do you want use your wish on?

I'll take Gary Player at the Masters and put $10,000 on him to win.

See? I got two wishes there. I get to pick the guy to win **AND** I
make enough money it's just like winning the lottery.
--

jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

Date: 19 Mar 2007 06:56:25
From: me
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 19, 9:18 am, "sfb" <s...@spam.net > wrote:
> "me" <oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1174308667.431281.180900@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The players themselves already consider TPC to be the 5th most
> > important tournament of the year. There are alot of reasons for that,
> > amongst them is the exemptions that comes along with it. The
> > truth is that, by the players measure, there are more than 4 important
> > tournaments. There are certain tournaments that players want to win
> > during their career. I think the Ryder Cup team is one of those
> > accomplishments that most players want
>
> File under biting the hand that feeds you - when the PGA Tour is making
> nice, they talk the TPC as number 5.
>
> In reality, many think it 4th ahead of the British Open and maybe after a
> few adult beverages 3rd ahead of the PGA Championship and The Open.
>

Monty's walking down the beach and finds a latern sticking up out
of the
sand. He picks it up and rubs off the sand, out comes a genie.
"Thank you for releasing me from 3000 years of captivity. In my
gratitude I'll give you a present. You can win any four tournaments
this year. But there is a caution. Once you win them, you'll
never win again".

Monty says:

A) The TPC and......
B) The four majors
C) No, thanks, I'll win 'em on my own and keep the ability to keep
winning.
D) Can I get back to you during the next Ryder Cup?

Date: 19 Mar 2007 05:51:07
From: me
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 16, 5:26 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com > wrote:
> "me" <oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote
>
>
>
> > As an aside, I suspect that the priy feature that is holding
> > back
> > the TPC as becoming the "5th major" is the tradition of which you
> > speak. They don't have photos of Snead, Hogan, Jones, Nelson,
> > et. al. winning and playing the TPC. We may be another 20 years
> > away from the TPC having the kind of history of the other majors.
>
> I might agree with you except for one thing. If you would agree that The
> Masters was old enough to have had enough tradition to be considered a major
> by the time Arnold Palmer won it in 1960 (and most people wouldn't argue
> that point), then you should consider the fact that in 1960, The Masters was
> staging only its 27th event. In 2007, The PLAYERS Championship will be
> staging its 34th event.
[snip]

The players themselves already consider TPC to be the 5th most
important tournament of the year. There are alot of reasons for that,
amongst them is the exemptions that comes along with it. The
truth is that, by the players measure, there are more than 4 important
tournaments. There are certain tournaments that players want to win
during their career. I think the Ryder Cup team is one of those
accomplishments that most players want.

The press on the other hand, and the golf fans that pay attention,
I don't think have really started recognizing the TPC as "a major".
You'll know it has happened when a guy that wins it, loses the
BPTNWAM title.

Arnie has alot to do with the modern definition of majors with the
press. He's also credited with restoring the Open Championship
to its current reputation, at least on this side of the pond.
I'm not sure who today could have such an equivalent impact.
The world would howl if Tiger started counting TPC wins as "major
wins". The Masters has been important virtually since it was
started, at least with the players. TV has had alot to do with its
stature since then. I'm not sure that TV has been able to do the
same thing for the TPC, at least not as quickly. If Tiger ever
won the single year slam, AND the TPC, I think a new benchk
might be set and it would raise the TPC to the level of the other
4 within the press and fans. The next generation might count
all of his victories in all 5 events and make it the new bench k,
much as Jack was able to do with his focus on "the majors".

Date: 19 Mar 2007 09:18:16
From: sfb
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

File under biting the hand that feeds you - when the PGA Tour is making
nice, they talk the TPC as number 5.

In reality, many think it 4th ahead of the British Open and maybe after a
few adult beverages 3rd ahead of the PGA Championship and The Open.

"me" <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote in message
news:1174308667.431281.180900@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> The players themselves already consider TPC to be the 5th most
> important tournament of the year. There are alot of reasons for that,
> amongst them is the exemptions that comes along with it. The
> truth is that, by the players measure, there are more than 4 important
> tournaments. There are certain tournaments that players want to win
> during their career. I think the Ryder Cup team is one of those
> accomplishments that most players want.
>

Date: 16 Mar 2007 16:29:50
From: dsc
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Date: 16 Mar 2007 16:50:24
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Who cares about the US Open? Tricking up a course based on making sure no
one breaks par is silly, imo. Almost every year the players face and comment
on unfair conditions, we see 3 foot putts rolling back 15 feet. It's a
tradition of who knows what?

"dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu > wrote in message
news:1174087790.779700.283750@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On 16, 5:26 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
>> "me" <oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote
>>
>>
>>
>> > As an aside, I suspect that the priy feature that is holding
>> > back
>> > the TPC as becoming the "5th major" is the tradition of which you
>> > speak. They don't have photos of Snead, Hogan, Jones, Nelson,
>> > et. al. winning and playing the TPC. We may be another 20 years
>> > away from the TPC having the kind of history of the other majors.
>>
>> I might agree with you except for one thing. If you would agree that The
>> Masters was old enough to have had enough tradition to be considered a
>> major
>> by the time Arnold Palmer won it in 1960 (and most people wouldn't argue
>> that point), then you should consider the fact that in 1960, The Masters
>> was
>> staging only its 27th event. In 2007, The PLAYERS Championship will be
>> staging its 34th event.
>>
>> The notion that The PLAYERS Championship lacks the tradition necessary to
>> be
>> considered a major lacks a basis in fact.
>>
>> There may be other reasons to dismiss it as a non-major, but strength of
>> field, the purse, players' perception of the tournament's status, and
>> whether the golf course itself has stood the test of time and poses a
>> championship-caliber challenge surely aren't among them.
>>
>> What other objections can there be?
>>
>> Randy
>
> I'm simply against having more than 4... screws up the record books.
> I would never replace the Masters or The Open or the US Open, but who
> really cares about the PGA? If something were better... replace it.
>

Date: 16 Mar 2007 05:40:05
From: me
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 16, 3:43 am, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com > wrote:
> "me" <oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1173960743.509456.285890@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 14, 10:47 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
> >> "dsc" <Dudley.Corn...@eku.edu> wrote
>
> >> > Or of course you could just leave them as is... :)
>
> >> Which I imagine will be the plan.
>
> > I'm sensing a certain resistance to the indulgence of imagination.
>
> Golf, a game steeped in tradition, tends to do things traditionally.
>
> Personally, I'm all in favor of imaginative ideas.
>
> But as far as this one is concerned, I'm still waiting for the advocate of
> the idea of spreading out the majors to come with a well thought-out reason
> for doing so that's a bit more compelling than just the fact that he'd like
> to see it. He hasn't even really explained why he'd like to see it. "Just
> because" isn't a good reason.

Can't speak for the OP, but I kinda knew what he was talking about
straight away. The season is long, which for some of us die hards,
is nice. But the 4 majors are "special" and in fact create sort of a
season
all their own. But that starts in April, and ends in August. That's
less
than half the year, and basically the "middle" of the TOUR season.
They've
moved TPC to May from ch which is trying hard to be a major, but
that actually shortens the "major season". The two international
competitions, especially the Ryder Cup, helps extend the "feeling"
into the fall anyway, but it's really the early season that "feels" so
long.
You get nothing for 3 months, then every 4 weeks you have a major,
then another 4 months with "nothing".

As I've said though, Fichem must hate these words. He's got a
Mercedes, and at least one WGC event at the beginning and he
can't get either the players or the fans to see that as "major like".

As an aside, I suspect that the priy feature that is holding
back
the TPC as becoming the "5th major" is the tradition of which you
speak. They don't have photos of Snead, Hogan, Jones, Nelson,
et. al. winning and playing the TPC. We may be another 20 years
away from the TPC having the kind of history of the other majors.

Date: 16 Mar 2007 16:56:58
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

"me" <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote in message
news:1174048805.611731.64210@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 16, 3:43 am, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
>> "me" <oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1173960743.509456.285890@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On 14, 10:47 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
>> >> "dsc" <Dudley.Corn...@eku.edu> wrote
>>
>> >> > Or of course you could just leave them as is... :)
>>
>> >> Which I imagine will be the plan.
>>
>> > I'm sensing a certain resistance to the indulgence of imagination.
>>
>> Golf, a game steeped in tradition, tends to do things traditionally.
>>
>> Personally, I'm all in favor of imaginative ideas.
>>
>> But as far as this one is concerned, I'm still waiting for the advocate
>> of
>> the idea of spreading out the majors to come with a well thought-out
>> reason
>> for doing so that's a bit more compelling than just the fact that he'd
>> like
>> to see it. He hasn't even really explained why he'd like to see it.
>> "Just
>> because" isn't a good reason.
>
>
> Can't speak for the OP, but I kinda knew what he was talking about
> straight away. The season is long, which for some of us die hards,
> is nice. But the 4 majors are "special" and in fact create sort of a
> season
> all their own. But that starts in April, and ends in August. That's
> less
> than half the year, and basically the "middle" of the TOUR season.
> They've
> moved TPC to May from ch which is trying hard to be a major, but
> that actually shortens the "major season". The two international
> competitions, especially the Ryder Cup, helps extend the "feeling"
> into the fall anyway, but it's really the early season that "feels" so
> long.
> You get nothing for 3 months, then every 4 weeks you have a major,
> then another 4 months with "nothing".
>
> As I've said though, Fichem must hate these words. He's got a
> Mercedes, and at least one WGC event at the beginning and he
> can't get either the players or the fans to see that as "major like".
>
> As an aside, I suspect that the priy feature that is holding
> back
> the TPC as becoming the "5th major" is the tradition of which you
> speak. They don't have photos of Snead, Hogan, Jones, Nelson,
> et. al. winning and playing the TPC. We may be another 20 years
> away from the TPC having the kind of history of the other majors.

Your post states my feelings. I'd like to see the golf season go all year.
And I'd like to see the majors spread out over the year. But if that isn't
possible becuase of weather or Azaleas or whatever, that's ok. There have
been 4 majors for a long time. It was a different set in Bobby Jones' time
but it was still 4. In my mind there will never be a 5th Major. Well maybe
naked Big Break, but that probably won't happen. "Here's a slow motion of
her shot from that side hill lie."

Date: 16 Mar 2007 17:26:39
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

"me" <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote
>
> As an aside, I suspect that the priy feature that is holding
> back
> the TPC as becoming the "5th major" is the tradition of which you
> speak. They don't have photos of Snead, Hogan, Jones, Nelson,
> et. al. winning and playing the TPC. We may be another 20 years
> away from the TPC having the kind of history of the other majors.

I might agree with you except for one thing. If you would agree that The
Masters was old enough to have had enough tradition to be considered a major
by the time Arnold Palmer won it in 1960 (and most people wouldn't argue
that point), then you should consider the fact that in 1960, The Masters was
staging only its 27th event. In 2007, The PLAYERS Championship will be
staging its 34th event.

The notion that The PLAYERS Championship lacks the tradition necessary to be
considered a major lacks a basis in fact.

There may be other reasons to dismiss it as a non-major, but strength of
field, the purse, players' perception of the tournament's status, and
whether the golf course itself has stood the test of time and poses a
championship-caliber challenge surely aren't among them.

What other objections can there be?

Randy

Date: 15 Mar 2007 07:22:33
From: me
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 15, 8:29 am, "cja" <c...@excite.com > wrote:
> On 9, 10:18 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
>
> > Summer, it's too hot. Winter, it's too cold. Fall would be nice, but golf
> > season's over by then, and those wacky azaleas don't bloom in September.
> > They've already wilted in the summer heat..
> > April is the perfect time. There's no place prettier than Augusta National
> > in April.
>
> I always thought it a little odd that AGNC is closed from May -
> October. Aren't there at least a couple of playable months in there?
[snip]

I'd suspect the real issue is the grass. They plant grass for the
winter, not the summer IIUC.

Date: 15 Mar 2007 05:34:10
From: cja
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Date: 15 Mar 2007 05:29:32
From: cja
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 9, 10:18 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com > wrote:

> Summer, it's too hot. Winter, it's too cold. Fall would be nice, but golf
> season's over by then, and those wacky azaleas don't bloom in September.
> They've already wilted in the summer heat..
> April is the perfect time. There's no place prettier than Augusta National
> in April.
>
I always thought it a little odd that AGNC is closed from May -
October. Aren't there at least a couple of playable months in there?
In the months it's open, how often is it unplayable due to winter
weather?

- cja

Date: 15 Mar 2007 05:12:23
From: me
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 14, 10:47 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com > wrote:
> "dsc" <Dudley.Corn...@eku.edu> wrote
>
>
>
> > Or of course you could just leave them as is... :)
>
> Which I imagine will be the plan.

I'm sensing a certain resistance to the indulgence of imagination.

Date: 16 Mar 2007 03:43:34
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

"me" <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote in message
news:1173960743.509456.285890@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 14, 10:47 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
>> "dsc" <Dudley.Corn...@eku.edu> wrote
>>
>>
>>
>> > Or of course you could just leave them as is... :)
>>
>> Which I imagine will be the plan.
>
>
> I'm sensing a certain resistance to the indulgence of imagination.

Golf, a game steeped in tradition, tends to do things traditionally.

Personally, I'm all in favor of imaginative ideas.

But as far as this one is concerned, I'm still waiting for the advocate of
the idea of spreading out the majors to come with a well thought-out reason
for doing so that's a bit more compelling than just the fact that he'd like
to see it. He hasn't even really explained why he'd like to see it. "Just
because" isn't a good reason.

Randy

Date: 16 Mar 2007 08:07:46
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On Fri, 16 2007 03:43:34 -0400, "\"R&B\""
<noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote:

>But as far as this one is concerned, I'm still waiting for the advocate of
>the idea of spreading out the majors to come with a well thought-out reason
>for doing so that's a bit more compelling than just the fact that he'd like
>to see it. He hasn't even really explained why he'd like to see it. "Just
>because" isn't a good reason.

Right now, the PGA Tour wants to push the Fed Ex cup. Earlier they
were hyping the Player's.

But non Tour events have their own agenda. When California moving
their priy date up, it gets California listened to more - but
probably is bad for the country. What the various Majors do is
what they think are good for their own organizations - ahead of what's
good for the sport.

Date: 16 Mar 2007 17:35:27
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 2007 03:43:34 -0400, "\"R&B\""
> <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote:
>
>>But as far as this one is concerned, I'm still waiting for the advocate of
>>the idea of spreading out the majors to come with a well thought-out
>>reason
>>for doing so that's a bit more compelling than just the fact that he'd
>>like
>>to see it. He hasn't even really explained why he'd like to see it.
>>"Just
>>because" isn't a good reason.
>
> Right now, the PGA Tour wants to push the Fed Ex cup. Earlier they
> were hyping the Player's.
>
> But non Tour events have their own agenda. When California moving
> their priy date up, it gets California listened to more - but
> probably is bad for the country. What the various Majors do is
> what they think are good for their own organizations - ahead of what's
> good for the sport.

The TOUR is pushing the FedEx Cup for one reason and one reason only: to
try to build interest in professional golf during a time of the season when
interest has traditionally waned -- Fall. By now, I think most people at
PGA TOUR headquarters realize that The PLAYERS Championship's status as a
"fifth major" is already secure in the minds of most players. It's just the
press and the fans who haven't yet fully embraced it as such, so there's not
much more they can do in TOUR-World but to let time pass and have the press
and the public catch up.

Their decision to move The PLAYERS Championship to May has been on the table
for more than a decade. The reason they haven't done it before was simple:
The greenkeeper at TPC-Sawgrass always lobbied strongly against the move
because the condition of the course would sometimes suffer in the warmer
weather of May. TOUR officials always acquiesced because they wanted to
present a course for their showcase event when it was in the best possible
condition. The course is really in its optimum shape in ch. One can
reasonably conclude that advancements in agronomy in recent years has
minimized those concerns somewhat, making the move to May more feasible.

Randy

Date: 14 Mar 2007 21:19:15
From: JohnO
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 9, 5:46 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com >
wrote:
> The majors are too close together.

They can'r possibly play it earlier. The Azaleas won't have flowered
in time.

Date: 14 Mar 2007 17:10:34
From: dsc
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 9, 12:46 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com >
wrote:
> The majors are too close together.

That's not the answer... move the other 3.

Move #2 by 1 week,
Move #3 by 2 weeks,
Move #4 by 3 weeks

Re-arrange the order of 2-4 to accomodate climate if you have too.

Or of course you could just leave them as is... :)

Date: 14 Mar 2007 22:47:44
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

"dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu > wrote
>
> Or of course you could just leave them as is... :)

Which I imagine will be the plan.

Randy

Date: 19 Mar 2007 12:57:13
From: me
Subject: Re: Genie question

On 19, 3:28 pm, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net > wrote:
[snip]
> Different question - you pick up the lantern and can wish any one
> person who is going to play at the major of your choice this year - to
> win.
>
> Who do you want use your wish on?

Monty.

Date: 14 Mar 2007 11:31:04
From: me
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 14, 2:11 pm, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net > wrote:
> On Wed, 14 2007 13:41:21 -0400, "\"R&B\""
>
> <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote:
> >> Ask the players when to put them, and I'm sure a large portion would
> >> like to have all four majors around July 19-22 this year...
>
> >And why might that be?
>
> Some labor issue - involving Erin Woods.

Subtle, Howard, subtle.

Date: 13 Mar 2007 08:46:19
From: me
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 13, 1:11 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com >
wrote:
> Geez, I'd hate to see you when you did take something personally. I'd just
> like to see some major action earlier in the year.
[snip]

Well, about now, you've got Fichem all a flutter. He has the season
opening
Mercedes, there's a WGC event in Feburary., both of which Tim would
like
you to consider "major action". I actually know what you mean in a
sense.
But I think if you look at recent history you'll see that early
tournaments just
don't attract alot of attention. It's one of the myriad of reasons
the TOUR
moved the Players to May. Late in the season, they have trouble
competing
with college and pro football, and as Randy suggests you can get all
wound up
in the World Series as well. About the only thing that could have
been
done is to slide the PGA later a bit. But now we've got the whole
FedEx
cup thang. You've got alot of action all year if you include the big
TOUR events, and the various international team events, as well as the
WGC stuff. The suggestion from the actions of "major" players, as
well as the changes being made right now is that their may be too
much "action" for the audience. The top players are saying the
seasons
too long. There doesn't seem to be alot of sentiment for spreading
things
out.

Oh, and stop top posting.

Date: 09 Mar 2007 08:01:26
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 9, 6:53 am, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com > wrote:
> On 8, 11:46 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The majors are too close together.
>
> The majors are in April, June, July and August and you want the April
> major to move?

I agree, poor strategic thinking on the OP's part. However, if you
were to stagger them a little more you could go Masters in April, US
Open in June, push the British to August, and the PGA to
October...August in most of the contiguous US is oppressive from a
weather standpoint, anyway. That way you have one every two months,
and there is only six months between majors instead of the current
eight months.

Date: 09 Mar 2007 12:05:00
From: Mike Bowen
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1173456086.212956.211420@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> August in most of the contiguous US is oppressive from a
> weather standpoint, anyway.

August is pretty fantastic in the Northwest. Just bring it here.

Mike Bowen

Date: 09 Mar 2007 09:28:46
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Ask the players when to put them, and I'm sure a large portion would
like to have all four majors around July 19-22 this year...

Date: 14 Mar 2007 13:41:21
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote ...
>
> Ask the players when to put them, and I'm sure a large portion would
> like to have all four majors around July 19-22 this year...

And why might that be?

Randy

Date: 14 Mar 2007 12:11:58
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On Wed, 14 2007 13:41:21 -0400, "\"R&B\""
<noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote:

>> Ask the players when to put them, and I'm sure a large portion would
>> like to have all four majors around July 19-22 this year...
>
>
>And why might that be?

Some labor issue - involving Erin Woods.

Date: 14 Mar 2007 22:47:09
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Got it. Thanks.

Randy

"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:nkegv29na10ln4uadlj5dv0nsamj8pulq6@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 2007 13:41:21 -0400, "\"R&B\""
> <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote:
>
>>> Ask the players when to put them, and I'm sure a large portion would
>>> like to have all four majors around July 19-22 this year...
>>
>>
>>And why might that be?
>
> Some labor issue - involving Erin Woods.
>

Date: 14 Mar 2007 12:14:29
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On Wed, 14 2007 12:11:58 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:

>Some labor issue - involving Erin Woods.

Typo: Elin ia Pernilla Woods

Date: 09 Mar 2007 04:53:58
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 8, 11:46 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com >
wrote:
> The majors are too close together.

The majors are in April, June, July and August and you want the April
major to move?

Date: 09 Mar 2007 03:44:47
From:
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

On 9 , 04:46, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com >
wrote:
> The majors are too close together.

I Totally Agree

Date: 11 Mar 2007 22:17:56
From: Zuke
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Yeah, the Masters would be great with barren trees everywhere.
Let's move the Kentucky Derby up too and let them horses run
in fourteen inches of snow.

I don't understand why people would want to change one thing
about the majors. They always seem perfect to me.

On Sun, 11 2007, AKA gray asphalt wrote:

>
> It's pretty obvious that, if conditions allowed, it would be better to have
> the four major tournaments spread out more, isn't it? A guy has a good
> couple of months and he can win two majors while a guy who plays well all
> year, more consistently and isn't on a streak, has less of a chance. And I'd
> like something to look forward to where the best is playing, TW, during the
> first 3 months of the year. So it's not a good idea because of weather.
> etc., no biggee. I wonder why you take this personally?
>
> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
> news:0ZCdnTk7VpiatmnYnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>>> The majors are too close together.
>>>
>>> I Totally Agree
>>
>>
>>
>> Because......? You have a hard time not getting confused about them?
>> Because......? Why?
>>
>> Two months separating the first from the second; one month separating the
>> other three.
>>
>> How is this not long enough?
>>
>> Why do you phools seem to think they need to be spread out more?
>>
>> So you can squeeze in your Sunday Garden Club meetings?
>>
>> WTF?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>
>
>

Date: 11 Mar 2007 12:15:19
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

>> The majors are too close together.
>
> I Totally Agree

Because......? You have a hard time not getting confused about them?
Because......? Why?

Two months separating the first from the second; one month separating the
other three.

How is this not long enough?

Why do you phools seem to think they need to be spread out more?

So you can squeeze in your Sunday Garden Club meetings?

WTF?

Randy

Date: 11 Mar 2007 15:41:06
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

It's pretty obvious that, if conditions allowed, it would be better to have
the four major tournaments spread out more, isn't it? A guy has a good
couple of months and he can win two majors while a guy who plays well all
year, more consistently and isn't on a streak, has less of a chance. And I'd
like something to look forward to where the best is playing, TW, during the
first 3 months of the year. So it's not a good idea because of weather.
etc., no biggee. I wonder why you take this personally?

""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:0ZCdnTk7VpiatmnYnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>>> The majors are too close together.
>>
>> I Totally Agree
>
>
>
> Because......? You have a hard time not getting confused about them?
> Because......? Why?
>
> Two months separating the first from the second; one month separating the
> other three.
>
> How is this not long enough?
>
> Why do you phools seem to think they need to be spread out more?
>
> So you can squeeze in your Sunday Garden Club meetings?
>
> WTF?
>
> Randy
>

Date: 12 Mar 2007 22:42:35
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

First of all, I don't take it personally. I just think it's a stupid idea.
S-T-U-P-I-D. Okay?

You state that "a guy has a good couple of months and he can win two
majors." Yet if you look back at history, the years when players have won
more than a single major in a year have not been all that frequent. And
when it has happened, it's usually because the player who did it happened to
be one of the very best players of his era. I see nothing wrong with, or
the least bit out of the ordinary about that.

The fact that it seems more common in the Tiger era may have changed the
perception, but in the 20 years or so before Tiger came along, how many
years did it happen? Twice? Three times?

The fact that Tiger has won multiple majors in a season so frequently is
testimony to only one thing:

He's that good.

But let's assume, for the sake of argument, that your idea of spreading out
the majors a little isn't so stupid. You wouldn't play the Super Bowl at
the beginning of the season. So you can pretty much rule out January,
February and ch as good months for major championships. That's the start
of the golf season.

Yet because golf is an outdoor sport, and is therefore best played when the
weather is on the warmish side (unless you think it would be amusing to see
golfers playing in parkas), it makes the most sense to hold the most
important tournaments before late Fall and early Winter sets in at the end
of the year. (A few Senior TOUR events have been SNOWED out, and let me
tell ya, it wasn't pretty.)

So now you've narrowed it down to around April thru October, only two months
different from the stretch in which the majors are held today.

I can promise you with 100% confidence (because I've sat in some of those
meetings with TOUR officials when this has been discussed) that golf's
governing bodies know full well that their product, as strong as it might
be, doesn't fare quite so well when it has to go head-to-head against NFL
and College Football in the Fall. And don't even think of staging an
important golf tournament the same weeks as Major League Baseball's League
Championship Series, or, heaven help you, the October Classic, the World
Series. Try scheduling the final round of your little golf tournament the
same day as the deciding game of a World Series and see how much audience
there is for it. Not much.

So really, when you boil it down, golf's majors are best kept right where
they are -- from the time the weather begins to warm up in the Spring, right
up until about the time the baseball division races are heating up and the
NFL and College Football seasons are getting started.

My hat's off to the PGA TOUR for making one very st move. They moved the
PLAYERS Championship from ch to May starting this year, something that
they've been talking about doing for nearly a decade. In the long run, I
believe this move will serve them well in their long-range efforts to
improve The PLAYERS Championship's visibility and overall perception as what
they hope it will become -- the "fifth major." Whether or not fans and some
traditionalists ever accept it as such, the players themselves (most of
them, anyway) have talked about The PLAYERS Championship for several years
as having reached that level of status in the world of professional golf.
Why else does it almost always attract the strongest field of the year?

Spacing these major events out evenly with one per month -- April/Masters,
May/Players, June/US Open, July/The Open Championship, and August/PGA -- can
only help. And frankly, I think it showcases golf's premiere events in just
the right way. Five months is a long enough season for any sport to stage
its showcase events, don't you think?

Randy

"AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote in message
news:NC%Ih.35837$6P2.7962@newsfe16.phx...
>
> It's pretty obvious that, if conditions allowed, it would be better to
> have the four major tournaments spread out more, isn't it? A guy has a
> good couple of months and he can win two majors while a guy who plays well
> all year, more consistently and isn't on a streak, has less of a chance.
> And I'd like something to look forward to where the best is playing, TW,
> during the first 3 months of the year. So it's not a good idea because of
> weather. etc., no biggee. I wonder why you take this personally?
>
> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
> news:0ZCdnTk7VpiatmnYnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>>> The majors are too close together.
>>>
>>> I Totally Agree
>>
>>
>>
>> Because......? You have a hard time not getting confused about them?
>> Because......? Why?
>>
>> Two months separating the first from the second; one month separating the
>> other three.
>>
>> How is this not long enough?
>>
>> Why do you phools seem to think they need to be spread out more?
>>
>> So you can squeeze in your Sunday Garden Club meetings?
>>
>> WTF?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>
>

Date: 12 Mar 2007 22:11:00
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Geez, I'd hate to see you when you did take something personally. I'd just
like to see some major action earlier in the year. BTW, nice spelling.
You've really got a way with words.

""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:YK2dnd_rC8obkmvYnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@giganews.com...
> First of all, I don't take it personally. I just think it's a stupid
> idea. S-T-U-P-I-D. Okay?
>
> You state that "a guy has a good couple of months and he can win two
> majors." Yet if you look back at history, the years when players have won
> more than a single major in a year have not been all that frequent. And
> when it has happened, it's usually because the player who did it happened
> to be one of the very best players of his era. I see nothing wrong with,
> or the least bit out of the ordinary about that.
>
> The fact that it seems more common in the Tiger era may have changed the
> perception, but in the 20 years or so before Tiger came along, how many
> years did it happen? Twice? Three times?
>
> The fact that Tiger has won multiple majors in a season so frequently is
> testimony to only one thing:
>
> He's that good.
>
> But let's assume, for the sake of argument, that your idea of spreading
> out the majors a little isn't so stupid. You wouldn't play the Super Bowl
> at the beginning of the season. So you can pretty much rule out January,
> February and ch as good months for major championships. That's the
> start of the golf season.
>
> Yet because golf is an outdoor sport, and is therefore best played when
> the weather is on the warmish side (unless you think it would be amusing
> to see golfers playing in parkas), it makes the most sense to hold the
> most important tournaments before late Fall and early Winter sets in at
> the end of the year. (A few Senior TOUR events have been SNOWED out, and
> let me tell ya, it wasn't pretty.)
>
> So now you've narrowed it down to around April thru October, only two
> months different from the stretch in which the majors are held today.
>
> I can promise you with 100% confidence (because I've sat in some of those
> meetings with TOUR officials when this has been discussed) that golf's
> governing bodies know full well that their product, as strong as it might
> be, doesn't fare quite so well when it has to go head-to-head against NFL
> and College Football in the Fall. And don't even think of staging an
> important golf tournament the same weeks as Major League Baseball's League
> Championship Series, or, heaven help you, the October Classic, the World
> Series. Try scheduling the final round of your little golf tournament the
> same day as the deciding game of a World Series and see how much audience
> there is for it. Not much.
>
> So really, when you boil it down, golf's majors are best kept right where
> they are -- from the time the weather begins to warm up in the Spring,
> right up until about the time the baseball division races are heating up
> and the NFL and College Football seasons are getting started.
>
> My hat's off to the PGA TOUR for making one very st move. They moved
> the PLAYERS Championship from ch to May starting this year, something
> that they've been talking about doing for nearly a decade. In the long
> run, I believe this move will serve them well in their long-range efforts
> to improve The PLAYERS Championship's visibility and overall perception as
> what they hope it will become -- the "fifth major." Whether or not fans
> and some traditionalists ever accept it as such, the players themselves
> (most of them, anyway) have talked about The PLAYERS Championship for
> several years as having reached that level of status in the world of
> professional golf. Why else does it almost always attract the strongest
> field of the year?
>
> Spacing these major events out evenly with one per month -- April/Masters,
> May/Players, June/US Open, July/The Open Championship, and August/PGA --
> can only help. And frankly, I think it showcases golf's premiere events
> in just the right way. Five months is a long enough season for any sport
> to stage its showcase events, don't you think?
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:NC%Ih.35837$6P2.7962@newsfe16.phx...
>>
>> It's pretty obvious that, if conditions allowed, it would be better to
>> have the four major tournaments spread out more, isn't it? A guy has a
>> good couple of months and he can win two majors while a guy who plays
>> well all year, more consistently and isn't on a streak, has less of a
>> chance. And I'd like something to look forward to where the best is
>> playing, TW, during the first 3 months of the year. So it's not a good
>> idea because of weather. etc., no biggee. I wonder why you take this
>> personally?
>>
>> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
>> news:0ZCdnTk7VpiatmnYnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>>> The majors are too close together.
>>>>
>>>> I Totally Agree
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Because......? You have a hard time not getting confused about them?
>>> Because......? Why?
>>>
>>> Two months separating the first from the second; one month separating
>>> the other three.
>>>
>>> How is this not long enough?
>>>
>>> Why do you phools seem to think they need to be spread out more?
>>>
>>> So you can squeeze in your Sunday Garden Club meetings?
>>>
>>> WTF?
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Date: 13 Mar 2007 02:03:48
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Personal? Hardly. I just hold strong opinions. That's all.

Let me tell ya something about moving the Masters to an earlier date.
Earlier in Georgia and it's too damn cold. The azaleas aren't in bloom.
You'd take one look at Augusta National, and you wouldn't recognize the
place. It would look bare. Almost like your local muni (with a lot better
greens).

Move a US Open, British Open or PGA to ch (or earlier) when they're
scheduled in certain locations above the Mason-Dixon line and you'd risk a
snow-out. Yes, even in ch. Hell, I've seen snow as late as April in
some places I've lived that weren't that far from the Mason-Dixon line.

I've always said that everything that happens before The Masters is just the
"pre-season" anyway. Players are just getting their games in shape in hopes
of peaking at the right time for the first major of the year in Augusta.

The golf season gets serious starting the week of The Masters, and ends, for
all intents and purposes, with the WGC event at Firestone. Okay, this year
might be different with the big-money FedEx Cup, but honestly I've always
believed it took more than just money to make a tournament "important." It
takes some prestige, history, tradition, etc. The tournament at Firestone
CC in Akron, under all its different names, always had all those things.
Except for the season-ending TOUR Championship, no other tournament after
August ever did, and frankly, the TOUR Championship isn't old enough to be
thought of in the same breath with tournaments that actually have a
tradition.

For the record, the event at Firestone Country Club, which has always
occupied that last weekend in August, used to be called the CBS Classic --
yes, named for the network. It was the last golf event televised by CBS
each year....and until ESPN came along, the last golf tournament televised
each year...period.

I kinda liked it that way.

Golf, like all other things that get too much media exposure, needs some
time off so we can take a breather from it. Kinda like Britney Spears.

Randy

"AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote in message
news:vqqJh.41080$6P2.5643@newsfe16.phx...
>
> Geez, I'd hate to see you when you did take something personally. I'd just
> like to see some major action earlier in the year. BTW, nice spelling.
> You've really got a way with words.
>
> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
> news:YK2dnd_rC8obkmvYnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> First of all, I don't take it personally. I just think it's a stupid
>> idea. S-T-U-P-I-D. Okay?
>>
>> You state that "a guy has a good couple of months and he can win two
>> majors." Yet if you look back at history, the years when players have
>> won more than a single major in a year have not been all that frequent.
>> And when it has happened, it's usually because the player who did it
>> happened to be one of the very best players of his era. I see nothing
>> wrong with, or the least bit out of the ordinary about that.
>>
>> The fact that it seems more common in the Tiger era may have changed the
>> perception, but in the 20 years or so before Tiger came along, how many
>> years did it happen? Twice? Three times?
>>
>> The fact that Tiger has won multiple majors in a season so frequently is
>> testimony to only one thing:
>>
>> He's that good.
>>
>> But let's assume, for the sake of argument, that your idea of spreading
>> out the majors a little isn't so stupid. You wouldn't play the Super
>> Bowl at the beginning of the season. So you can pretty much rule out
>> January, February and ch as good months for major championships.
>> That's the start of the golf season.
>>
>> Yet because golf is an outdoor sport, and is therefore best played when
>> the weather is on the warmish side (unless you think it would be amusing
>> to see golfers playing in parkas), it makes the most sense to hold the
>> most important tournaments before late Fall and early Winter sets in at
>> the end of the year. (A few Senior TOUR events have been SNOWED out, and
>> let me tell ya, it wasn't pretty.)
>>
>> So now you've narrowed it down to around April thru October, only two
>> months different from the stretch in which the majors are held today.
>>
>> I can promise you with 100% confidence (because I've sat in some of those
>> meetings with TOUR officials when this has been discussed) that golf's
>> governing bodies know full well that their product, as strong as it might
>> be, doesn't fare quite so well when it has to go head-to-head against NFL
>> and College Football in the Fall. And don't even think of staging an
>> important golf tournament the same weeks as Major League Baseball's
>> League Championship Series, or, heaven help you, the October Classic, the
>> World Series. Try scheduling the final round of your little golf
>> tournament the same day as the deciding game of a World Series and see
>> how much audience there is for it. Not much.
>>
>> So really, when you boil it down, golf's majors are best kept right where
>> they are -- from the time the weather begins to warm up in the Spring,
>> right up until about the time the baseball division races are heating up
>> and the NFL and College Football seasons are getting started.
>>
>> My hat's off to the PGA TOUR for making one very st move. They moved
>> the PLAYERS Championship from ch to May starting this year, something
>> that they've been talking about doing for nearly a decade. In the long
>> run, I believe this move will serve them well in their long-range efforts
>> to improve The PLAYERS Championship's visibility and overall perception
>> as what they hope it will become -- the "fifth major." Whether or not
>> fans and some traditionalists ever accept it as such, the players
>> themselves (most of them, anyway) have talked about The PLAYERS
>> Championship for several years as having reached that level of status in
>> the world of professional golf. Why else does it almost always attract
>> the strongest field of the year?
>>
>> Spacing these major events out evenly with one per month --
>> April/Masters, May/Players, June/US Open, July/The Open Championship, and
>> August/PGA -- can only help. And frankly, I think it showcases golf's
>> premiere events in just the right way. Five months is a long enough
>> season for any sport to stage its showcase events, don't you think?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>>
>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:NC%Ih.35837$6P2.7962@newsfe16.phx...
>>>
>>> It's pretty obvious that, if conditions allowed, it would be better to
>>> have the four major tournaments spread out more, isn't it? A guy has a
>>> good couple of months and he can win two majors while a guy who plays
>>> well all year, more consistently and isn't on a streak, has less of a
>>> chance. And I'd like something to look forward to where the best is
>>> playing, TW, during the first 3 months of the year. So it's not a good
>>> idea because of weather. etc., no biggee. I wonder why you take this
>>> personally?
>>>
>>> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0ZCdnTk7VpiatmnYnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>>>> The majors are too close together.
>>>>>
>>>>> I Totally Agree
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because......? You have a hard time not getting confused about them?
>>>> Because......? Why?
>>>>
>>>> Two months separating the first from the second; one month separating
>>>> the other three.
>>>>
>>>> How is this not long enough?
>>>>
>>>> Why do you phools seem to think they need to be spread out more?
>>>>
>>>> So you can squeeze in your Sunday Garden Club meetings?
>>>>
>>>> WTF?
>>>>
>>>> Randy
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Date: 09 Mar 2007 05:57:06
From: Watson deMeneux
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

AKA gray asphalt wrote:
> The majors are too close together.
>
>

I'll pass this on to those in charge. I'm sure there'll be changes next
year.

--
Watson deMeneux
-Say it out loud next time you're in a restaurant.

Date: 09 Mar 2007 05:46:49
From: Bill
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

"Watson deMeneux" <Nevermind@server.it > wrote in message
news:SG6Ih.12252$4D.2358@pd7urf2no...
> AKA gray asphalt wrote:
>> The majors are too close together.
>
> I'll pass this on to those in charge. I'm sure there'll be changes next
> year.
>
> --
> Watson deMeneux
> -Say it out loud next time you're in a restaurant.

R&B said he would get a man right on it...please dont muddy the chain of
command !

Date: 09 Mar 2007 16:14:16
From: Watson deMeneux
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Bill wrote:
> "Watson deMeneux" <Nevermind@server.it> wrote in message
> news:SG6Ih.12252$4D.2358@pd7urf2no...
>
>>AKA gray asphalt wrote:
>>
>>>The majors are too close together.
>>
>>I'll pass this on to those in charge. I'm sure there'll be changes next
>>year.
>>
>>--
>>Watson deMeneux
>>-Say it out loud next time you're in a restaurant.
>
>
> R&B said he would get a man right on it...please dont muddy the chain of
> command !
>
>

Sorry! I see his offer to get right on it beat mine by three minutes.
I'll be in the brig if anyone needs me.

--
Watson deMeneux
-Say it out loud next time you're in a restaurant.

Date: 09 Mar 2007 00:54:05
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

I'll get a man right on it.

Randy

"AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote in message
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> The majors are too close together.
>

Date: 09 Mar 2007 01:01:05
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:IfSdnWlYbM7ra23YnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> I'll get a man right on it.
>
> Randy
>
> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:_G5Ih.29670$7g3.802@newsfe14.phx...
>> The majors are too close together.

So you agree? Has it always been played in April? Is that the best time of
the year for weather in Georgia? If someone could really change it would it
be a good idea, for other people besides me? : -)

Date: 09 Mar 2007 21:18:28
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

"AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote in message
news:Mp9Ih.12702$g24.2557@newsfe12.phx...
>
> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
> news:IfSdnWlYbM7ra23YnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> I'll get a man right on it.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:_G5Ih.29670$7g3.802@newsfe14.phx...
>>> The majors are too close together.
>
> So you agree?

No.

> Has it always been played in April?

In the Spring, yes. April? I'm not sure.

> Is that the best time of the year for weather in Georgia?

Actually, it is. Since I live in Atlanta, I guess I can speak on this.

Summer, it's too hot. Winter, it's too cold. Fall would be nice, but golf
season's over by then, and those wacky azaleas don't bloom in September.
They've already wilted in the summer heat..

April is the perfect time. There's no place prettier than Augusta National
in April.

> If someone could really change it would it be a good idea, for other
> people besides me? : -)

No, only for you.

And no one's going to change it, especially for you. So get used to it.

Randy

Date: 09 Mar 2007 23:35:55
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

But if I could get you on my side? That would make it a near certainty.

""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:2OudnZFTJvD0iG_YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:Mp9Ih.12702$g24.2557@newsfe12.phx...
>>
>> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
>> news:IfSdnWlYbM7ra23YnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> I'll get a man right on it.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:_G5Ih.29670$7g3.802@newsfe14.phx...
>>>> The majors are too close together.
>>
>> So you agree?
>
> No.
>
>> Has it always been played in April?
>
> In the Spring, yes. April? I'm not sure.
>
>> Is that the best time of the year for weather in Georgia?
>
> Actually, it is. Since I live in Atlanta, I guess I can speak on this.
>
> Summer, it's too hot. Winter, it's too cold. Fall would be nice, but
> golf season's over by then, and those wacky azaleas don't bloom in
> September. They've already wilted in the summer heat..
>
> April is the perfect time. There's no place prettier than Augusta
> National in April.
>
>> If someone could really change it would it be a good idea, for other
>> people besides me? : -)
>
> No, only for you.
>
> And no one's going to change it, especially for you. So get used to it.
>
> Randy
>

Date: 10 Mar 2007 20:23:18
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Uh....right.

Randy

"AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote in message
news:_ftIh.55269$dO6.51677@newsfe07.phx...
>
> But if I could get you on my side? That would make it a near certainty.
>
> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
> news:2OudnZFTJvD0iG_YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:Mp9Ih.12702$g24.2557@newsfe12.phx...
>>>
>>> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
>>> news:IfSdnWlYbM7ra23YnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> I'll get a man right on it.
>>>>
>>>> Randy
>>>>
>>>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:_G5Ih.29670$7g3.802@newsfe14.phx...
>>>>> The majors are too close together.
>>>
>>> So you agree?
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> Has it always been played in April?
>>
>> In the Spring, yes. April? I'm not sure.
>>
>>> Is that the best time of the year for weather in Georgia?
>>
>> Actually, it is. Since I live in Atlanta, I guess I can speak on this.
>>
>> Summer, it's too hot. Winter, it's too cold. Fall would be nice, but
>> golf season's over by then, and those wacky azaleas don't bloom in
>> September. They've already wilted in the summer heat..
>>
>> April is the perfect time. There's no place prettier than Augusta
>> National in April.
>>
>>> If someone could really change it would it be a good idea, for other
>>> people besides me? : -)
>>
>> No, only for you.
>>
>> And no one's going to change it, especially for you. So get used to it.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>
>

Date: 10 Mar 2007 17:42:16
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

The R & B is just a little below the R & A, right?

""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:xM2dna6Gv4xlxG7YnZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d@giganews.com...
> Uh....right.
>
> Randy
>
> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:_ftIh.55269$dO6.51677@newsfe07.phx...
>>
>> But if I could get you on my side? That would make it a near certainty.
>>
>> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
>> news:2OudnZFTJvD0iG_YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Mp9Ih.12702$g24.2557@newsfe12.phx...
>>>>
>>>> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:IfSdnWlYbM7ra23YnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>> I'll get a man right on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Randy
>>>>>
>>>>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:_G5Ih.29670$7g3.802@newsfe14.phx...
>>>>>> The majors are too close together.
>>>>
>>>> So you agree?
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>>> Has it always been played in April?
>>>
>>> In the Spring, yes. April? I'm not sure.
>>>
>>>> Is that the best time of the year for weather in Georgia?
>>>
>>> Actually, it is. Since I live in Atlanta, I guess I can speak on this.
>>>
>>> Summer, it's too hot. Winter, it's too cold. Fall would be nice, but
>>> golf season's over by then, and those wacky azaleas don't bloom in
>>> September. They've already wilted in the summer heat..
>>>
>>> April is the perfect time. There's no place prettier than Augusta
>>> National in April.
>>>
>>>> If someone could really change it would it be a good idea, for other
>>>> people besides me? : -)
>>>
>>> No, only for you.
>>>
>>> And no one's going to change it, especially for you. So get used to it.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Date: 10 Mar 2007 20:53:54
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

That's one way to look at it.

Randy

"AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote in message
news:waJIh.19867$907.5960@newsfe13.phx...
>
> The R & B is just a little below the R & A, right?
>
> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
> news:xM2dna6Gv4xlxG7YnZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Uh....right.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:_ftIh.55269$dO6.51677@newsfe07.phx...
>>>
>>> But if I could get you on my side? That would make it a near certainty.
>>>
>>> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2OudnZFTJvD0iG_YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Mp9Ih.12702$g24.2557@newsfe12.phx...
>>>>>
>>>>> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:IfSdnWlYbM7ra23YnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>> I'll get a man right on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Randy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:_G5Ih.29670$7g3.802@newsfe14.phx...
>>>>>>> The majors are too close together.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you agree?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>>> Has it always been played in April?
>>>>
>>>> In the Spring, yes. April? I'm not sure.
>>>>
>>>>> Is that the best time of the year for weather in Georgia?
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it is. Since I live in Atlanta, I guess I can speak on this.
>>>>
>>>> Summer, it's too hot. Winter, it's too cold. Fall would be nice, but
>>>> golf season's over by then, and those wacky azaleas don't bloom in
>>>> September. They've already wilted in the summer heat..
>>>>
>>>> April is the perfect time. There's no place prettier than Augusta
>>>> National in April.
>>>>
>>>>> If someone could really change it would it be a good idea, for other
>>>>> people besides me? : -)
>>>>
>>>> No, only for you.
>>>>
>>>> And no one's going to change it, especially for you. So get used to
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Randy
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Date: 11 Mar 2007 13:44:53
From: John Reddy
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

I don't know how you could move any of the first three.

As many posters pointed out, April is really the only time to play the
Masters.

The US Open can't really be any earlier in that it is played on courses
throughout the US and the weather can be pretty iffy in the northern
half of the country before mid-June.

The British Isles apparently have no summer at all, just a slightly
warmer version of early spring or late fall which happens in mid-July.

The PGA could move to September but what would be the point?

Date: 09 Mar 2007 07:25:35
From: BAR
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

AKA gray asphalt wrote:
> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
> news:IfSdnWlYbM7ra23YnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> I'll get a man right on it.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:_G5Ih.29670$7g3.802@newsfe14.phx...
>>> The majors are too close together.
>
> So you agree? Has it always been played in April? Is that the best time of
> the year for weather in Georgia? If someone could really change it would it
> be a good idea, for other people besides me? : -)
>
>

It is the best time for the flowers, foliage and grass.

They could move it to August but that would bean everything is brown,
flowers, foliage and grass.

Date: 09 Mar 2007 09:54:29
From: DanL
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

>
> They could move it to August but that would bean everything is brown,
> flowers, foliage and grass.
>

Not to mention the course is closed at that time of year.

Date: 09 Mar 2007 09:11:58
From: Alan Murphy
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Date: 09 Mar 2007 01:12:18
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: PLay The Masters earlier

Just a little nippy this time of year? Not to mention the tradition. You've
gotta give it to the tournament. You aren't going to see a WorldCom Masters
or a Cialysis Masters.

"Alan Murphy" <afmccl@btinternet.com > wrote in message
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> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:Mp9Ih.12702$g24.2557@newsfe12.phx...
>>
>> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
>> news:IfSdnWlYbM7ra23YnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> I'll get a man right on it.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>> "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:_G5Ih.29670$7g3.802@newsfe14.phx...
>>>> The majors are too close together.
>>
>> So you agree? Has it always been played in April? Is that the best time
>> of the year for weather in Georgia? If someone could really change it
>> would it be a good idea, for other people besides me? : -)
>>
> I doubt whether they could play the Masters any
> earlier and later would bring the majors even closer
> together.
>
>
>