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Main Date: 08 Sep 2006 21:43:35 From: The Hammer Subject: OK, I lied! Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. A truly decent fellow, who I am very proud to call my friend. And a truly decent fellow who others are very proud to call their friend. The greatest validiation one can receive of being a decent human being is being flamed by the likes of those that have slandered and attacked him from December 2006, on. When someone like Tex, Knight, or that Mike prick from Minn and the like flame you, chances are you are a pretty good person. Dene did absolutely nothing to deserve this disgraceful treatment. Let RSG NW be recognized as the first event that excluded someone just because he wasn't liked by some. I never knew that these events were about popularity. You come, enjoy, and if someone is there you don't like you just ignore him. But no, the crybabies of RSG NW petitioned and pissed and moaned to the organizer and Dene was excluded. No loss for Dene, a big loss for the event. This troll validated something. The lack of response was louder than if there had been 5000 responses. That is because to some of the cronies, it was an obvious troll. And they quickly wrote among themselves to enforce some type of don't feed decree. These gossiping old ladies communicate among themselves faster than the speed of light. What is equally amazing is that almost as soon as I posted this troll, Dene and I both got emails from a few of you anxiously wanting to know the real scoop. As if you had nothing better to worry about in your lives. Very sad, yet utterly amusing at the same time. Dene has received more crap from some of you in the last year than most will ever receive in three lifetimes. I can guarantee you he couldn't care less. It just makes his protagonists look like bigger assholes with each post. He gets crap only because he is not a follower, a drinker, and someone who does not need constant validation from a network of cronies across the country. He is a winner, I think some of you are jealous of that. A wonderful wife who I am sure will be his soulmate for life.. The guy makes more in a week than some of you make in a year. And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you don't. Now that is a real joke!! He travels when he wants to, has a beautful new house, a beautiful boat, and some wonderful kids. Yea, if Dene is such the bad person some of you says he is, he seems to be doing pretty good to me. And in fact, better than me and better than most of you. And he plays golf, in fact a lot. It is interesting that some of the cronies who have posted against him don't even play golf. Yet, hang around a golf group. Unbelievable. I am really getting sick of all the Dene bashing. Those of you that don't even know him have jumped on the bandwagon, just to be part of some clique. Well, I am not part of a clique, don't want to be, and couldn't give a crap what any clique thinks about me. The bottom line is the guy is fucking gold, I am proud to be his friend. There are others here that are proud to be his friend. That is all that matters. The cronies who seek to antagonize him are just fucking noise. Those of us that know the guy know a whole lot better. The Hammer   Date: 12 Sep 2006 07:16:57 From: annika1980 Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Tranny wrote: > > You forgot to mention his 12" cock. > > length or girth? I think it was measured from the back of his ass.   Date: 12 Sep 2006 04:24:23 From: Noons Subject: Re: Was: OK, I lied! - Now, it's a joke... Tranny wrote: > Noons wrote: > > This entire effing thread is sooooo deranged. > > > > Are you folks sure you've left priy school? > > > > Jeez... > > Seconded! WTF has it to do with golf? get used to it, Tran. When these guys get in the mood, it gets MUCH worse than this. Usually, liberal applications of golfing outings and alcoholic beverage spraying fixes it. Sometimes it doesn't. THEN it gets funny. Ah well, each to his own. ;-)     Date: 12 Sep 2006 12:25:40 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "Noons" <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au > wrote in message news:1158060263.862527.102180@e63g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Tranny wrote: >> Noons wrote: >> > This entire effing thread is sooooo deranged. >> > >> > Are you folks sure you've left priy school? >> > >> > Jeez... >> >> Seconded! WTF has it to do with golf? The thread can be plonked as a whole - if the subject line remains unchanged.   Date: 12 Sep 2006 01:55:27 From: ynaught Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157777015.805004.241700@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. A truly > decent fellow, who I am very proud to call my friend. And a truly > decent fellow who others are very proud to call their friend. snip > He is a winner, I think some of you are jealous of that. A wonderful wife > who I am sure will be his > soulmate for life.. The guy makes more in a week than some of you make > in a year. And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you > don't. Now that is a real joke!! He travels when he wants to, has a > beautful new house, a beautiful boat, and some wonderful kids. Yea, if > Dene is such the bad person some of you says he is, he seems to be > doing pretty good to me. And in fact, better than me and better than > most of you. And he plays golf, in fact a lot. It is interesting that > some of the cronies who have posted against him don't even play golf. > Yet, hang around a golf group. Unbelievable. AND he is a man of his word! When Dene says something, HE MEANS IT!   Date: 11 Sep 2006 09:59:10 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157777015.805004.241700@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >> > I am really getting sick of all the Dene bashing. This coming from the guy who started the cumwad thread in the first place. You need help son.   Date: 11 Sep 2006 07:28:46 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > : > : Chris Bellomy wrote: > :> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > :> : Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. > :> > :> What's the opposite of a cumwad? An egg? Dene is an egg? > : > : It's the designation given to those who graduate from college, bottom > : out of a class of 400. > : > : -Greg-----> Me Cumma Tu.01 (2.01 gpa). > > That kicks ass... no wasted effort! > > : (I aced the tests and skipped the term papers) > > Isn't that called "cum tergum denturum" or somesuch? > > ("by the skin of the teeth") Dang...wish I'd thought of that! -Greg   Date: 10 Sep 2006 22:58:49 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > : Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. > > What's the opposite of a cumwad? An egg? Dene is an egg? It's the designation given to those who graduate from college, bottom out of a class of 400. -Greg----- > Me Cumma Tu.01 (2.01 gpa). (I aced the tests and skipped the term papers)     Date: 11 Sep 2006 08:27:48 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote: : : Chris Bellomy wrote: : > The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: : > : Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. : > : > What's the opposite of a cumwad? An egg? Dene is an egg? : : It's the designation given to those who graduate from college, bottom : out of a class of 400. : : -Greg----- > Me Cumma Tu.01 (2.01 gpa). That kicks ass... no wasted effort! : (I aced the tests and skipped the term papers) Isn't that called "cum tergum denturum" or somesuch? ("by the skin of the teeth") -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/   Date: 11 Sep 2006 05:23:56 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: : Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. What's the opposite of a cumwad? An egg? Dene is an egg? -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/   Date: 10 Sep 2006 17:40:28 From: Big_Fan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! annika1980 wrote: > The Hammer wrote: > > Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. A truly > > decent fellow, who I am very proud to call my friend. > > > He is a winner, I think some of > > you are jealous of that. A wonderful wife who I am sure will be his > > soulmate for life.. The guy makes more in a week than some of you make > > in a year. And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you > > don't. Now that is a real joke!! He travels when he wants to, has a > > beautful new house, a beautiful boat, and some wonderful kids. > > You forgot to mention his 12" cock. Him too?   Date: 10 Sep 2006 09:31:53 From: Noons Subject: Was: OK, I lied! - Now, it's a joke... This entire effing thread is sooooo deranged. Are you folks sure you've left priy school? Jeez...     Date: 12 Sep 2006 11:56:37 From: Tranny Subject: Re: Was: OK, I lied! - Now, it's a joke... Noons wrote: > This entire effing thread is sooooo deranged. > > Are you folks sure you've left priy school? > > Jeez... Seconded! WTF has it to do with golf? Tran   Date: 09 Sep 2006 21:54:50 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! annika1980 wrote: > The Hammer wrote: > > Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. A truly > > decent fellow, who I am very proud to call my friend. > > > He is a winner, I think some of > > you are jealous of that. A wonderful wife who I am sure will be his > > soulmate for life.. The guy makes more in a week than some of you make > > in a year. And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you > > don't. Now that is a real joke!! He travels when he wants to, has a > > beautful new house, a beautiful boat, and some wonderful kids. > > You forgot to mention his 12" cock. True enough....grew six when the kidney stone passed. -Greg   Date: 09 Sep 2006 21:07:57 From: annika1980 Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. A truly > decent fellow, who I am very proud to call my friend. > He is a winner, I think some of > you are jealous of that. A wonderful wife who I am sure will be his > soulmate for life.. The guy makes more in a week than some of you make > in a year. And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you > don't. Now that is a real joke!! He travels when he wants to, has a > beautful new house, a beautiful boat, and some wonderful kids. You forgot to mention his 12" cock.     Date: 12 Sep 2006 11:55:56 From: Tranny Subject: Re: OK, I lied! annika1980 wrote: > The Hammer wrote: >> Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. A truly >> decent fellow, who I am very proud to call my friend. > >> He is a winner, I think some of >> you are jealous of that. A wonderful wife who I am sure will be his >> soulmate for life.. The guy makes more in a week than some of you make >> in a year. And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you >> don't. Now that is a real joke!! He travels when he wants to, has a >> beautful new house, a beautiful boat, and some wonderful kids. > > You forgot to mention his 12" cock. length or girth? Tran   Date: 09 Sep 2006 17:44:29 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bear wrote: > On 9 Sep 2006 09:52:41 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > > > > >Bear wrote: > > > >> Dude I've subscribed to RSG for at least 8 years so I know all about > >> the good and bad here. I know how to find web based discussion groups > >> just fine but thanks for posting urls to groups most know about. > >> What RSG has over all the web based sites is that it is unmoderated > >> thus allows any wingnut to post... > > > >All true....so what are you protesting about? > > Not protesting about anything. I actually enjoy reading posts by you > and Hummer. I laugh a lot at the crap that spews forth from you and > your fellow wingnuts. Hilarious stuff, someone should collect all your > posts about the TITPB and publish them as a book. I'm sure it would > sell and I bet most would think it is fiction 'cause nobody could > really be as stupid as the main character. Glad to entertain you. -Greg   Date: 09 Sep 2006 14:14:34 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote: > > A BUNCH OF GOSSIPING OLD WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I know that you'd be disappointed if I did not search the Google archives > for another of your posts, so here is an example of golfers conversing with > each other, though NOT gossiping, because when you talk about others, it is > not gossip... > > From:The Hammer - view profile > Date:Mon, Dec 27 2004 9:36 pm > Email: "The Hammer" <ericthehammer2...@yahoo.com> > Groups: rec.sport.golf > > A large crowd met the night before on 12/26 at Cinco De Mayo restaurant in > Birmingham pre-tournament. We indulged some of the best Mexican food and > garitas known to the great redneck state of Alabama. Conversation > centered around RSG. We discussed the continued spamming from our friend of > Wisconsin. We discussed how each of us at one time or another have been the > targets of Bobby Knight's unmerciful and malicious attacks. We discussed > how Colley Allen is fixated on Google searches and goes back five years to > prove a point when most of us can't remember yesterday. We talked about > Randy's Brown's conspiracy to make RSG events by invitation only. We talked > about George Hibbard's "Secret of the Thumb". We talked about my combover. > We talked about the longstanding efforts to discredit my mental status and > drive me out of RSG. We talked aboout Dene pissing rocks. We talked > about the future of RSG and the formation of a new order in RSG. In short, > it was a very meaningful and thought provoking working discussion. Plans > were laid to once and for all drive the scoundrels out of RSG and make it a > place where golf can be discussed, without fear or retribution. Eric's post was obviously "tongue in cheek." Is cable available in Colleyville? You're missing the Golden Girls athon. -Greg   Date: 09 Sep 2006 12:27:22 From: Tex Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote: > > "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1157828082.834958.32580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > >>> > > > > > >> Which is why I responded to it. > > >> > > >> Don't look now, but your paranoia is showing. > > >> > > > It sure wasn't about discounts on health insurance for you. > > > > Why would it be? > > > > > It still goes on. One crony has shared a bit of this info with me. > > > > Not much of a crony, is he? > > > > > Obsessed to the point that you need to discuss and deliberate it across > > > the country > > > and then strategize ways to make us look bad. Hey, we don't care if we > > > look bad. It ain't important. But it seems awfully important to some > > > of you. > > > > If you do not care, then why are you constantly bringing it up? > > > > > Enough said. you hard ons can deliberate this all day long and call me > > > paranoid, crazy, whatever. Come up with some new names or > > > characterizationsif you want. And then you can get on your crony list > > > and discuss this for hours on end. Go for it, I really don't care. > > > > Again you claim not to care, but you also claim your post was to show how we > > C-Listers communicate by, uh..., NOT posting to RSG (hope I followed your > > logic). Why place a troll post to RSG if you "really don't care"? > > No one cares that you cronies communicate non -stop. What is > bothersome is that it is used as a gossip hot line about RSG members. > Don't you have anything better to do with your time then gossip about > others and obsess non-stop about other posters. > > I will say it again. Gossiping old woman. That is what your list is > all about. I am glad I am not part of it. Who needs a fucking list as > yours. It is no better than a cult. Golf is just the pretext to > legitimize what has become very cult like. And what gets you goat, we > know it!!!!!!!!!!! Ahem...is this the same "source" for your information about all of "Tex's drunken activities at RSG events" ? Which, by the way you have not bothered to CITE! (stealing a line from your favorite TITPB) The only reason you twist off about a C-list, D-list, TITPD-list is that none of them include YOU. You have a deep desire to be included in SOMETHING....which explains why you, TITPB and Frostballs keep returning to stir up shit. It gives you the inclusion in SOMETHING that you desperately seek. If none of this mattered to the point you all claim, you'd never return for the 500th time after leaving for the 500th time. Tex   Date: 09 Sep 2006 12:24:56 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > It still goes on. One crony has shared a bit of this info with me. I > > will not give his name or reprint emails, but I know damn well that > > this group is obsessed with me, Larry, Dene, and others. Obsessed to > > the point that you need to discuss and deliberate it across the country > > and then strategize ways to make us look bad. > > The problem with going with the big bluff here, Eric, is that > when when you use one lie to introduce another, it's kinda > obvious that, well, you're lying. If you're going to claim > that there's a mole on the c-list feeding you the scoop on > what goes on there, at least make better guesses about what > that actually is. And don't act like you're not colluding > with your buddies when you trot out your cumwad bait, ok? > > Now, don't you have a crossburning to get to? > > -- > Chris Bellomy > C-List Charter Member > http://clist.org/ I couldn't care less whether you think I am lying or not. You are a nobody to me, here and in real life There is indeed a mole, but you will have to put a 45 to my head and I still wouldn't tell. In fact, there are crony groups within your crony groups. This is all too fucking hysterical. How serious you all take this. Get a life! I have a better understanding now of what goes on behind the scenes here. I am out of here again for another hiatus. Got no more time to waste with this drivel. I know what you and your ilk are. Others see it too. They know, they are just st enough to stay out of it. A BUNCH OF GOSSIPING OLD WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have a good day! The Hammer     Date: 11 Sep 2006 14:30:47 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Tex wrote: > Dene wrote: > > Chris Bellomy wrote: > > > Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > > > : > > > : Chris Bellomy wrote: > > > : > > > :> : The only ducking and weaving has come from your hero, Bobby Knight, and > > > :> : kitty-boy. You know that as well as I do. Difference is....I have the > > > :> : guts to say it. > > > :> > > > :> Then you won't mind demonstrating where Bobby has been inconsistent. > > > :> I do hope that you will be specific, because I haven't seen it. > > > : > > > : 1. He calls Eric a liar, > > > : 2. Eric offers to verify, for a reasonable price > > > > > > But why put a price on it? And why move the goalposts the way > > > he did? > > > > Why should Eric put in effort to prove himself to an individual he > > cares nothing about, unless there is something worth his time? > > As Dene would say....cite. If you make grand statements, expect them > to be backed up with proof. Even you expect proof...thus, your > childish, CITE. > > While Hammer *might* have 3 degrees and they in fact *might* come with > SCL, given his lack of style, spelling and inability to distinguish > fact from fiction, I'd have to wonder just how "edumacated" he really > his. > > And this I'm just guessing is why BK and others don't really believe > his boast of having 3 degrees with SCL. > > >Sure, > > Eric could give RSG the college's names and phone numbers but that's a > > dead end. With privacy laws in full effect, nobody but Eric could > > acquire the transcripts. > > Don't need any transcripts...you can ask for "confirm/deny" of a degree > with/without honors. Happens all the time with companies verifying > resumes. > > So, in the words of Dene....Hammer, it's time to > > CITE > > Tex Tex, With privacy laws the way they are these days, I strongly doubt that any institution would give out much. I am getting all my paperwork in order and will be ready shortly to prove everything regarding my education. Like who really cares, seems you folks do. Well, if you care so much, it will have to be worth my while, because frankly i don't care whether you believe me or not. I know what I am looking at and what it says and I see three college majors , not some mail order crap as diaper boy Knight alleges. In fact, if these were mail order crap, I would not be liscensed to practice as a RN. There are very strict credentials for liscensure, and one of them is completing an accredited program. I frankly have found all this obsession with my educational credentials hysterical. Do you guys have a life. I am just some schmuck out there who most of you will never meet or know, so why do you really care? Amazing, I tell you! But if it provides entertainment for some of you, i will feed this frenzy. Anyway, if you want to personally call the institutions, I might let you be the one who does it. If it really means that much to you all, I really don't mind at all if you take over the role of spokesman here. But there has to sone ante-ups first, because like i said, it matters to me very little whether you believe me or not. So , without flaming or insults, please tell me what is in this for me, and others who are now looking for a piece of this action. Otherwise, I will just take my time on all this. I will provide the goods when I want to, and you'all may have to wait a year or more. And one other thing k. You alluded somewhere to my doctoring transcripts. No way Jose. The transcript from the one school where I have the dual major has a very distinct and indentifiable computer font. I could not reproduce that font. It would stick out like a sore thumb if I doctored anything with a typewriter or whatever. And I have never doctored or forged a document ever. Never would, it ain't right. I am an honest citizen and business person and would never do anything illegal, dishonest, or unethical like forging or doctoring a document of any kind. However, you or your cronies certainly have the right to believe otherwise and that is OK by me.. Ball in your court bud. If you want to discuss in a civil matter, feel free to email me at ericthehammer2003@yahoo.com. We can even talk on the phone if you like. In fact, anyone who wants to write is always welcome. Those who know me well 'in the flesh" know me to be nothing short of outgoing and kind and right up front with everything. The persona here is just a persona, and you guys eat it up. You eat it up and you know it. And I am everything but stupid, as some of you say. Can be a horses ass at times, but shit who aint And yea, I can spell, but why bother here. Not like I am typing some important business proposal, that is why I have a secretary do that. I really do not want to bore this group with this anymore. So any future conversations are via email. In fairness to most in this group, who really just want to discuss golf and couldn't care less about me, you, or anyone else here for that matter. The Hammer       Date: 12 Sep 2006 09:25:48 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1158010247.833216.71440@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > I am getting all my paperwork in order and will be ready shortly to > prove everything regarding my education. Like who really cares, seems > you folks do. Well, if you care so much, it will have to be worth my > while, because frankly i don't care whether you believe me or not. Actually you care deeply or you wouldnt be doing this now would you?       Date: 11 Sep 2006 22:06:02 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: : So , without flaming or insults, please tell me what is in this for me, You have the chance to prove that your word is good. You further have the chance to prove that Bobby's accusations about your probity are unfounded. I also believe there's $5000 in it for you. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/       Date: 11 Sep 2006 22:03:14 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: : With privacy laws the way they are these days, I strongly doubt that : any institution would give out much. Not to this extent. Degree status, along with honors, is public information. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/     Date: 11 Sep 2006 13:54:34 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > : Why should Eric put in effort to prove himself to an individual he > : cares nothing about, unless there is something worth his time? > > Because it's not about Bobby, it's about him and his claim. Bobby was the one who called Eric a liar. And, > as I said earlier, he certainly has the option to make the "none > of your business, I should never have mentioned it" response, > which, while suspicious, would at least have certain base level > of dignity about it. The indignity lies with the accuser. As things stand, there's $5000 on the table > for him if he can back up his claim, but he's oddly disinclined > to collect. I wonder why that is. Really....who is putting up the $5000? Kitty boy backed out. I haven't heard a peep from longnleft/brave-Dave. BK is doing his duck and weave routine. So where's the $$$, Chris? -Greg       Date: 11 Sep 2006 21:12:57 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote: : : Chris Bellomy wrote: : > Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: : > : Why should Eric put in effort to prove himself to an individual he : > : cares nothing about, unless there is something worth his time? : > : > Because it's not about Bobby, it's about him and his claim. : : Bobby was the one who called Eric a liar. Eric was the one who claimed he had three degrees Summa Cum Laude. : And, : > as I said earlier, he certainly has the option to make the "none : > of your business, I should never have mentioned it" response, : > which, while suspicious, would at least have certain base level : > of dignity about it. : : The indignity lies with the accuser. The accuser is irrelevant. How Eric responds is entirely up to him, irrespective of the identity of the accuser or the nature of the accusation. : > As things stand, there's $5000 on the table : > for him if he can back up his claim, but he's oddly disinclined : > to collect. I wonder why that is. : : Really....who is putting up the $5000? biggoldcat, or whatever his handle is. : Kitty boy backed out. I didn't see this. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/     Date: 11 Sep 2006 13:14:21 From: Tex Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene wrote: > Chris Bellomy wrote: > > Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > > : > > : Chris Bellomy wrote: > > : > > :> : The only ducking and weaving has come from your hero, Bobby Knight, and > > :> : kitty-boy. You know that as well as I do. Difference is....I have the > > :> : guts to say it. > > :> > > :> Then you won't mind demonstrating where Bobby has been inconsistent. > > :> I do hope that you will be specific, because I haven't seen it. > > : > > : 1. He calls Eric a liar, > > : 2. Eric offers to verify, for a reasonable price > > > > But why put a price on it? And why move the goalposts the way > > he did? > > Why should Eric put in effort to prove himself to an individual he > cares nothing about, unless there is something worth his time? As Dene would say....cite. If you make grand statements, expect them to be backed up with proof. Even you expect proof...thus, your childish, CITE. While Hammer *might* have 3 degrees and they in fact *might* come with SCL, given his lack of style, spelling and inability to distinguish fact from fiction, I'd have to wonder just how "edumacated" he really his. And this I'm just guessing is why BK and others don't really believe his boast of having 3 degrees with SCL. >Sure, > Eric could give RSG the college's names and phone numbers but that's a > dead end. With privacy laws in full effect, nobody but Eric could > acquire the transcripts. Don't need any transcripts...you can ask for "confirm/deny" of a degree with/without honors. Happens all the time with companies verifying resumes. So, in the words of Dene....Hammer, it's time to CITE Tex       Date: 11 Sep 2006 15:38:40 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 11 Sep 2006 13:14:21 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote: <clip > >As Dene would say....cite. If you make grand statements, expect them >to be backed up with proof. Even you expect proof...thus, your >childish, CITE. > >While Hammer *might* have 3 degrees and they in fact *might* come with >SCL, given his lack of style, spelling and inability to distinguish >fact from fiction, I'd have to wonder just how "edumacated" he really >his. > >And this I'm just guessing is why BK and others don't really believe >his boast of having 3 degrees with SCL. > My disbelief was strengthened when I first challenged him about this. Then he retracted the original statement about 3 degrees with SCL, and altered it, as posted here yesterday. >> Eric could give RSG the college's names and phone numbers but that's a >> dead end. With privacy laws in full effect, nobody but Eric could >> acquire the transcripts. > >Don't need any transcripts...you can ask for "confirm/deny" of a degree >with/without honors. Happens all the time with companies verifying >resumes. > >So, in the words of Dene....Hammer, it's time to > >CITE > >Tex -- ___, \o     Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:37:09 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Tex wrote: > Additionally, Hammer's comment about the "paper" in boxes he hasn't > looked through for a long period of time (10 yrs? 15yrs?) is rather > suspect. Anyone with 3 degrees that achieved Summa Cum Laude will have > those displayed "somewhere" for all to see....especially someone like > Hammer who loves to tell people what a wonderful person he is. > > Tex I've been to his house and can confirm that there are no degrees on the walls and that he has a garage/storage room full of boxes, along with every golf gadget known to mankind. Eric is not pretentious in terms of material goods. His house is nice but modest....typical suburban new-contruction. He drives a modest car. He puts his money into travel and golf outings. Nonethess, you're welcome to get in on this. Care for a side bet? -Greg     Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:21:01 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157829895.937974.124050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > I couldn't care less whether you think I am lying or not. You are a > nobody to me, here and in real life There is indeed a mole, but you > will have to put a 45 to my head and I still wouldn't tell. In fact, > there are crony groups within your crony groups. This is all too > fucking hysterical. How serious you all take this. Get a life! > HAHAHAAHA! WE take this serious?? I have a .45 can I be first? > I have a better understanding now of what goes on behind the scenes > here. I am out of here again for another hiatus. One day, max.     Date: 10 Sep 2006 17:18:32 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > > In the absence of you willing to put some bucks where you mouth is, I will consider this > >wager dropped by default and I will accept a "win" in my column. > > You can shove your "default" where the sun doesn't shine. I still > consider that your first statement is false and you don't have the > balls to stand by it. Well now....24 hours later and these facts remain. 1. Eric claims he has three college degrees with honors. 2. Bobby says he's lying 3. Eric says put up or shut up 4. Bobby refuses to do either, now relying on an anonymous poster to bet for him. It's obvious the alligator-mouth/canary-ass BK is the one without the balls. -Greg     Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:52:49 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! bigoldc...@yahoo.com wrote: > Bobby Knight wrote: > > > Bigoldcat called the bet....let him worry about you and your > > shenanigans. You call his bet? I wouldn't touch it without real > > proof, and you aren't about to offer that. > > <clip> > . I still > > consider that your first statement is false and you don't have the > > balls to stand by it. > > ___, > > \o > >     Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:47:51 From: Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > Bigoldcat called the bet....let him worry about you and your > shenanigans. You call his bet? I wouldn't touch it without real > proof, and you aren't about to offer that. > <clip> . I still > consider that your first statement is false and you don't have the > balls to stand by it. > ___, > \o >       Date: 10 Sep 2006 18:50:41 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 10 Sep 2006 16:47:51 -0700, bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote: >Bobby Knight wrote: > >> Bigoldcat called the bet....let him worry about you and your >> shenanigans. You call his bet? I wouldn't touch it without real >> proof, and you aren't about to offer that. >> <clip> >. I still >> consider that your first statement is false and you don't have the >> balls to stand by it. >> ___, >> \o >>     Date: 10 Sep 2006 09:53:36 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > On 9 Sep 2006 21:30:08 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > >> Seems the facts are quite simple. > >> > >> Eric has three degrees with honors. > >> B.O.B. says he doesn't. > >> Eric says it's so and puts up 5k. > >> B.O.B. retreats, using an obvious diversion, > >> while threatening to sick their pet google go-fer on him. > >> > >> -Greg > > > >The bet is still on if Bobby decides to change his mind. I will gladly > >scan all related documents to an impartial 3rd party if he decides to > >accept the bet. Annika1980 is my pick. He would not lie on my behalf > >or on Bobby's behalf. I trust the guy if he would volunteer for this > >mission. What do you say Anni? > > > >The Hammer > > OK shitface. Here's your original statement, and the following one > that refutes it. > > >From: The Hammer - view profile > > >Date: Wed, Dec 21 2005 6:26 am > > >Because you are insignificant to me and I have nothing to prove to you. I > >Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases, graduated summa cum laude. Believe it > >or not, I really couldn't care. If you are going on the record to say I am > >not telling the truth, please say so. It would not be hard to prove you > >wrong and just trolling. > > IN ALL CASES!! There's the lie. > I called you on it and you then crawfished: > > >The Hammer > >Date: Wed, Dec 21 2005 8:09 am > > >OK. Here is the deal. I will make you a bet that I have three majors from > >two colleges One college degree from a school of business adminsitration > >with majors in Industrial Relations(which is fancy term for Human Resources > >Mgt) and Organizational Behavior(which is fancy term for Organizational > >Psychology and Dynamics).. The second school , a degree in Nursing.. I > >will prove that I graduated summa cum laude from one of them. > > Spin all you want. You've admitted here that you lied. So that's what this is about? Is the phrase, "in all cases" that the best you can do, Knight? It's idiocy in it's purest form. Bottom line....he has three degrees with honors. You challenged him about this. He put up a bet. You backed away. Are you LLarry's long lost brother? If so, he's his father's only son. -Greg     Date: 09 Sep 2006 20:11:05 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157829895.937974.124050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > I have a better understanding now of what goes on behind the scenes here. Good. It's only taken you about 5 1/2 years, but you are starting to come around. I am out of here again for another hiatus. Got no more time to > waste with this drivel. I know what you and your ilk are. Others see > it too. They know, they are just st enough to stay out of it. > > A BUNCH OF GOSSIPING OLD WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know that you'd be disappointed if I did not search the Google archives for another of your posts, so here is an example of golfers conversing with each other, though NOT gossiping, because when you talk about others, it is not gossip... From:The Hammer - view profile Date:Mon, Dec 27 2004 9:36 pm Email: "The Hammer" <ericthehammer2...@yahoo.com > Groups: rec.sport.golf A large crowd met the night before on 12/26 at Cinco De Mayo restaurant in Birmingham pre-tournament. We indulged some of the best Mexican food and garitas known to the great redneck state of Alabama. Conversation centered around RSG. We discussed the continued spamming from our friend of Wisconsin. We discussed how each of us at one time or another have been the targets of Bobby Knight's unmerciful and malicious attacks. We discussed how Colley Allen is fixated on Google searches and goes back five years to prove a point when most of us can't remember yesterday. We talked about Randy's Brown's conspiracy to make RSG events by invitation only. We talked about George Hibbard's "Secret of the Thumb". We talked about my combover. We talked about the longstanding efforts to discredit my mental status and drive me out of RSG. We talked aboout Dene pissing rocks. We talked about the future of RSG and the formation of a new order in RSG. In short, it was a very meaningful and thought provoking working discussion. Plans were laid to once and for all drive the scoundrels out of RSG and make it a place where golf can be discussed, without fear or retribution.       Date: 09 Sep 2006 21:15:17 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! >From:The Hammer - view profile >Date:Mon, Dec 27 2004 9:36 pm >Email: "The Hammer" <ericthehammer2...@yahoo.com> >Groups: rec.sport.golf > >A large crowd met the night before on 12/26 at Cinco De Mayo restaurant in >Birmingham pre-tournament. We indulged some of the best Mexican food and >garitas known to the great redneck state of Alabama. Conversation >centered around RSG. We discussed the continued spamming from our friend of >Wisconsin. We discussed how each of us at one time or another have been the >targets of Bobby Knight's unmerciful and malicious attacks. We discussed >how Colley Allen is fixated on Google searches and goes back five years to >prove a point when most of us can't remember yesterday. We talked about >Randy's Brown's conspiracy to make RSG events by invitation only. We talked >about George Hibbard's "Secret of the Thumb". We talked about my combover. >We talked about the longstanding efforts to discredit my mental status and >drive me out of RSG. We talked aboout Dene pissing rocks. We talked >about the future of RSG and the formation of a new order in RSG. In short, >it was a very meaningful and thought provoking working discussion. Plans >were laid to once and for all drive the scoundrels out of RSG and make it a >place where golf can be discussed, without fear or retribution. > Gossiping old women!!! I recall that you charged the c-list with "taking over" RSG. Looks to me like your plans to drive posters out of RSG is an admission admission of such a cabal. How did that work out? Oh...there's always the probability that all of this is another lie. Wanna tell us again about your summa cum laude degrees from those mail order universities? ___, \o         Date: 12 Sep 2006 12:00:34 From: Big_Fan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! > This from a proven liar and newgroup troll. Like your written word > here means anything. > Wasn't it you that claimed to not really enjoy gambling? But now you > want to bet $5000 for your proof of degrees ? That's a heavy gamble > son. Win or lose. I don't really know any of you very well or care about this argument generally, but betting $5000 on something you know is fact is not a gamble at all.         Date: 11 Sep 2006 15:26:27 From: Tex Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > Tex wrote: > > Dene wrote: > > > Chris Bellomy wrote: > > > > Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > > > > : > > > > : Chris Bellomy wrote: > > > > : > > > > :> : The only ducking and weaving has come from your hero, Bobby Knight, and > > > > :> : kitty-boy. You know that as well as I do. Difference is....I have the > > > > :> : guts to say it. > > > > :> > > > > :> Then you won't mind demonstrating where Bobby has been inconsistent. > > > > :> I do hope that you will be specific, because I haven't seen it. > > > > : > > > > : 1. He calls Eric a liar, > > > > : 2. Eric offers to verify, for a reasonable price > > > > > > > > But why put a price on it? And why move the goalposts the way > > > > he did? > > > > > > Why should Eric put in effort to prove himself to an individual he > > > cares nothing about, unless there is something worth his time? > > > > As Dene would say....cite. If you make grand statements, expect them > > to be backed up with proof. Even you expect proof...thus, your > > childish, CITE. > > > > While Hammer *might* have 3 degrees and they in fact *might* come with > > SCL, given his lack of style, spelling and inability to distinguish > > fact from fiction, I'd have to wonder just how "edumacated" he really > > his. > > > > And this I'm just guessing is why BK and others don't really believe > > his boast of having 3 degrees with SCL. > > > > >Sure, > > > Eric could give RSG the college's names and phone numbers but that's a > > > dead end. With privacy laws in full effect, nobody but Eric could > > > acquire the transcripts. > > > > Don't need any transcripts...you can ask for "confirm/deny" of a degree > > with/without honors. Happens all the time with companies verifying > > resumes. > > > > So, in the words of Dene....Hammer, it's time to > > > > CITE > > > > Tex > > Tex, > > With privacy laws the way they are these days, I strongly doubt that > any institution would give out much. Ya think? Hmmm, then how does a prospective employer verify your 3 degrees? Next time you apply for work, tell them you have 8 degrees, one of them a Doctorate, see how long it takes them to disprove you. :) > In > fact, if these were mail order crap, I would not be liscensed to > practice as a RN. There are very strict credentials for liscensure, > and one of them is completing an accredited program. All nurses have 3 degrees?? Or is it just one? A Nursing Degree. > I frankly have found all this obsession with my educational > credentials hysterical. Do you guys have a life. I am just some > schmuck out there who most of you will never meet or know, so why do > you really care? Amazing, I tell you! But if it provides > entertainment for some of you, i will feed this frenzy.'' You made the claim....what's next, Hammer the Professor ? > And one other thing k. You alluded somewhere to my doctoring > transcripts. No way Jose. The transcript from the one school where I > have the dual major has a very distinct and indentifiable computer > font. This from a proven liar and newgroup troll. Like your written word here means anything. Wasn't it you that claimed to not really enjoy gambling? But now you want to bet $5000 for your proof of degrees ? That's a heavy gamble son. Win or lose. > I really do not want to bore this group with this anymore. So any > future conversations are via email. In fairness to most in this group, > who really just want to discuss golf and couldn't care less about me, > you, or anyone else here for that matter. Does that mean you are no longer going to post again? Most of your trolls are rather boring. Tex         Date: 11 Sep 2006 14:53:20 From: Ben. Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > > As Dene would say....cite. If you make grand statements, expect them > > to be backed up with proof. Even you expect proof...thus, your > > childish, CITE. > > > > While Hammer *might* have 3 degrees and they in fact *might* come with > > SCL, given his lack of style, spelling and inability to distinguish > > fact from fiction, I'd have to wonder just how "edumacated" he really > > his. > > > > And this I'm just guessing is why BK and others don't really believe > > his boast of having 3 degrees with SCL. > > > > >Sure, > > > Eric could give RSG the college's names and phone numbers but that's a > > > dead end. With privacy laws in full effect, nobody but Eric could > > > acquire the transcripts. > > > > Don't need any transcripts...you can ask for "confirm/deny" of a degree > > with/without honors. Happens all the time with companies verifying > > resumes. > > > > So, in the words of Dene....Hammer, it's time to > > > > CITE > > > > Tex > > Tex, > > With privacy laws the way they are these days, I strongly doubt that > any institution would give out much. > > I am getting all my paperwork in order and will be ready shortly to > prove everything regarding my education. Like who really cares, seems > you folks do. Well, if you care so much, it will have to be worth my > while, because frankly i don't care whether you believe me or not. I > know what I am looking at and what it says and I see three college > majors , not some mail order crap as diaper boy Knight alleges. In > fact, if these were mail order crap, I would not be liscensed to > practice as a RN. There are very strict credentials for liscensure, > and one of them is completing an accredited program. > > I frankly have found all this obsession with my educational > credentials hysterical. Do you guys have a life. I am just some > schmuck out there who most of you will never meet or know, so why do > you really care? Amazing, I tell you! But if it provides > entertainment for some of you, i will feed this frenzy. > > Anyway, if you want to personally call the institutions, I might let > you be the one who does it. If it really means that much to you all, > I really don't mind at all if you take over the role of spokesman > here. But there has to sone ante-ups first, because like i said, it > matters to me very little whether you believe me or not. > > So , without flaming or insults, please tell me what is in this for me, > and others who are now looking for a piece of this action. Otherwise, > I will just take my time on all this. I will provide the goods when I > want to, and you'all may have to wait a year or more. > > And one other thing k. You alluded somewhere to my doctoring > transcripts. No way Jose. The transcript from the one school where I > have the dual major has a very distinct and indentifiable computer > font. I could not reproduce that font. It would stick out like a sore > thumb if I doctored anything with a typewriter or whatever. And I have > never doctored or forged a document ever. Never would, it ain't right. > I am an honest citizen and business person and would never do > anything illegal, dishonest, or unethical like forging or doctoring a > document of any kind. However, you or your cronies certainly have the > right to believe otherwise and that is OK by me.. > > Ball in your court bud. If you want to discuss in a civil matter, feel > free to email me at ericthehammer2003@yahoo.com. We can even talk on > the phone if you like. In fact, anyone who wants to write is always > welcome. Those who know me well 'in the flesh" know me to be nothing > short of outgoing and kind and right up front with everything. The > persona here is just a persona, and you guys eat it up. You eat it up > and you know it. And I am everything but stupid, as some of you say. > Can be a horses ass at times, but shit who aint And yea, I can spell, > but why bother here. Not like I am typing some important business > proposal, that is why I have a secretary do that. > > I really do not want to bore this group with this anymore. So any > future conversations are via email. In fairness to most in this group, > who really just want to discuss golf and couldn't care less about me, > you, or anyone else here for that matter. > > The Hammer I gotta say, folks, I dislike this guy's online demeanor as much as the next guy...as long as the next guy isn't BK or Tex or CB or....whoever. However, he seems pretty confident here. He seems willing to put up - what's the next move? The tension is thicker than long&left's head - whatcha gonna do?         Date: 11 Sep 2006 14:29:18 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > Eric was the one who claimed he had three degrees Summa Cum Laude. Yeah so. We each have our claims to fame. The distinction is that BK called him on it and now refuses to back down or put some $$ where his alligator mouth is. I'm beginning to think that he's not as rich as he claims to be. Perhaps I should smear him by calling him a lying pauper, then insist that he substantiate my accusations with bank statements while still maintaining he's a liar.. Absurd scenario, isn't it? > : Kitty boy backed out. > > I didn't see this. Thanks for admitting it. 2nd mistake you've made this week. Think anybody should trust you in a round of golf? : > Seriously, you'd think the most senior member of the cronies would have the maturity to admit his "mistake" too. One more thing. If Eric got two Bachelors degrees Summa Cum Laude, then wouldn't logic say he'd get it again with his more recent degree, the Associates degree in Nursing? Ya think?? -Greg           Date: 12 Sep 2006 01:36:41 From: Bear Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 11 Sep 2006 14:29:18 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote: >Chris Bellomy wrote: > >> Eric was the one who claimed he had three degrees Summa Cum Laude. > >Yeah so. We each have our claims to fame. The distinction is that BK >called him on it and now refuses to back down or put some $$ where his >alligator mouth is. > >I'm beginning to think that he's not as rich as he claims to be. >Perhaps I should smear him by calling him a lying pauper, then insist >that he substantiate my accusations with bank statements while still >maintaining he's a liar.. Absurd scenario, isn't it? > >> : Kitty boy backed out. >> >> I didn't see this. > >Thanks for admitting it. 2nd mistake you've made this week. Think >anybody should trust you in a round of golf? :> > >Seriously, you'd think the most senior member of the cronies would have >the maturity to admit his "mistake" too. > >One more thing. If Eric got two Bachelors degrees Summa Cum Laude, >then wouldn't logic say he'd get it again with his more recent degree, >the Associates degree in Nursing? Is the Associates the 2 year nursing degree? > >Ya think?? > >-Greg       Date: 09 Sep 2006 19:03:14 From: Chris S Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan" <nospam@nospam.net > wrote in message news:tdFMg.17120$dl.15572@tornado.texas.rr.com... > "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1157829895.937974.124050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> I have a better understanding now of what goes on behind the scenes here. > > Good. It's only taken you about 5 1/2 years, but you are starting to come > around. > > > I am out of here again for another hiatus. Got no more time to >> waste with this drivel. I know what you and your ilk are. Others see >> it too. They know, they are just st enough to stay out of it. >> >> A BUNCH OF GOSSIPING OLD WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I know that you'd be disappointed if I did not search the Google archives > for another of your posts, so here is an example of golfers conversing > with each other, though NOT gossiping, because when you talk about others, > it is not gossip... > > From:The Hammer - view profile > Date:Mon, Dec 27 2004 9:36 pm > Email: "The Hammer" <ericthehammer2...@yahoo.com> > Groups: rec.sport.golf > > A large crowd met the night before on 12/26 at Cinco De Mayo restaurant in > Birmingham pre-tournament. We indulged some of the best Mexican food and > garitas known to the great redneck state of Alabama. Conversation > centered around RSG. We discussed the continued spamming from our friend > of > Wisconsin. We discussed how each of us at one time or another have been > the > targets of Bobby Knight's unmerciful and malicious attacks. We discussed > how Colley Allen is fixated on Google searches and goes back five years to > prove a point when most of us can't remember yesterday. We talked about > Randy's Brown's conspiracy to make RSG events by invitation only. We > talked > about George Hibbard's "Secret of the Thumb". We talked about my > combover. > We talked about the longstanding efforts to discredit my mental status and > drive me out of RSG. We talked aboout Dene pissing rocks. We talked > about the future of RSG and the formation of a new order in RSG. In > short, > it was a very meaningful and thought provoking working discussion. Plans > were laid to once and for all drive the scoundrels out of RSG and make it > a > place where golf can be discussed, without fear or retribution. > > OK, that was a complete lie!! That was some of the worst Mexican food that I've ever had!! Oh, the humanity!! > >         Date: 10 Sep 2006 02:08:18 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "Chris S" <golfzlf@coxyahoo.com > wrote in message news:CnKMg.4184$TA5.224@fed1read09... >> > > OK, that was a complete lie!! That was some of the worst Mexican food > that I've ever had!! Oh, the humanity!! Mexican food in Alabama, what did you expect?     Date: 09 Sep 2006 19:57:09 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > > Chris Bellomy wrote: >> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > It still goes on. One crony has shared a bit of this info with me. I >> > will not give his name or reprint emails, but I know damn well that >> > this group is obsessed with me, Larry, Dene, and others. Obsessed to >> > the point that you need to discuss and deliberate it across the country >> > and then strategize ways to make us look bad. >> >> The problem with going with the big bluff here, Eric, is that >> when when you use one lie to introduce another, it's kinda >> obvious that, well, you're lying. If you're going to claim >> that there's a mole on the c-list feeding you the scoop on >> what goes on there, at least make better guesses about what >> that actually is. And don't act like you're not colluding >> with your buddies when you trot out your cumwad bait, ok? >> >> Now, don't you have a crossburning to get to? > > I couldn't care less whether you think I am lying or not. I don't doubt that, since you don't care whether you're lying in the first place. > You are a > nobody to me, here and in real life There is indeed a mole, but you > will have to put a 45 to my head and I still wouldn't tell. [pause for a moment to imagine the insane wimpering if someone really did put a .45 to Eric's head, God forbid... ok, moving along...] > In fact, > there are crony groups within your crony groups. IT'S A MYSTERY WRAPPED IN A RIDDLE INSIDE AN ENIGMA, MAN!!! > This is all too > fucking hysterical. How serious you all take this. Get a life! Can't. Wife and young kids, I'm a prisoner of love. > I have a better understanding now of what goes on behind the scenes > here. Better than *what*, now that's the question. Hmm, let's have a contest, the winner gets a free "F STEMMER" golf tee for the best / most entertaining answer to this question: Who or what does Hammer surpass in terms of understanding the behind the scenes action at rsg? I'll go first: A box of hammers! Vote early, vote often, this has been a C-list orchestration. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/   Date: 09 Sep 2006 12:06:55 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote: > "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1157828082.834958.32580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > >>> > > > >> Which is why I responded to it. > >> > >> Don't look now, but your paranoia is showing. > >> > > It sure wasn't about discounts on health insurance for you. > > Why would it be? > > > It still goes on. One crony has shared a bit of this info with me. > > Not much of a crony, is he? > > > Obsessed to the point that you need to discuss and deliberate it across > > the country > > and then strategize ways to make us look bad. Hey, we don't care if we > > look bad. It ain't important. But it seems awfully important to some > > of you. > > If you do not care, then why are you constantly bringing it up? > > > Enough said. you hard ons can deliberate this all day long and call me > > paranoid, crazy, whatever. Come up with some new names or > > characterizationsif you want. And then you can get on your crony list > > and discuss this for hours on end. Go for it, I really don't care. > > Again you claim not to care, but you also claim your post was to show how we > C-Listers communicate by, uh..., NOT posting to RSG (hope I followed your > logic). Why place a troll post to RSG if you "really don't care"? No one cares that you cronies communicate non -stop. What is bothersome is that it is used as a gossip hot line about RSG members. Don't you have anything better to do with your time then gossip about others and obsess non-stop about other posters. I will say it again. Gossiping old woman. That is what your list is all about. I am glad I am not part of it. Who needs a fucking list as yours. It is no better than a cult. Golf is just the pretext to legitimize what has become very cult like. And what gets you goat, we know it!!!!!!!!!!! The Hammer     Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:18:04 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157828815.223603.15370@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > No one cares that you cronies communicate non -stop. What is > bothersome is that it is used as a gossip hot line about RSG members. You surely do. It eats you alive what goes on here.   Date: 09 Sep 2006 11:54:42 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Chris Bellomy wrote: > >> Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Chris Bellomy wrote: > >> >> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> > Dene is not a Cumwad. > >> >> > >> >> You can hump his leg all you want, but maybe you should go find > >> >> a room first. > >> > > >> > He's got a point Eric. Most of the time, Bellomy's C-list circle-jerk > >> > in private.> no other reason than to troll and then beat our chests about > >> > >> Well, you don't see us calling each other cumwads in rsg for > > > >> what st trolls we were. You have to look to guys like Eric > >> for stuff like that. > > > > The post was an obvious troll. Any idiot could have figured it out. > > Knowing your history, who the hell could say for sure? > > > But the troll had a strategic purpose. > > Right, it gave you an excuse to stroke yourself in public again > for being so super clever! > > > What happened was that a no feed the trolls decree was put out and it > > worked. > > Which is why I responded to it. > > Don't look now, but your paranoia is showing. > > -- > Chris Bellomy > C-List Charter Member > http://clist.org/ no paranoia, you are a bunch of old ladies that are constantly in touch with each other. And that is not bad in itself. What is bad, is that you use it as a forum to talk about others all the friggin time. I have had a few previous members of your list share some of the things that were discussed. It sure wasn't about discounts on health insurance for you. It was gossip and some of it very personal about the members here. It still goes on. One crony has shared a bit of this info with me. I will not give his name or reprint emails, but I know damn well that this group is obsessed with me, Larry, Dene, and others. Obsessed to the point that you need to discuss and deliberate it across the country and then strategize ways to make us look bad. Hey, we don't care if we look bad. It ain't important. But it seems awfully important to some of you. Enough said. you hard ons can deliberate this all day long and call me paranoid, crazy, whatever. Come up with some new names or characterizationsif you want. And then you can get on your crony list and discuss this for hours on end. Go for it, I really don't care. The Hammer     Date: 11 Sep 2006 21:22:42 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Sparky wrote: > On 10-Sep-2006, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote: > > > Now me on the other hand, I have $5k to spare, > > While you're throwin out the dough, I could use a new bass rig and > guitar, say and SWR setup and a new Les Paul Standard should just about > do it... > > > me The only thing he's throwin is words. -Greg     Date: 11 Sep 2006 21:22:23 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Sparky wrote: > On 10-Sep-2006, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote: > > > Now me on the other hand, I have $5k to spare, > > While you're throwin out the dough, I could use a new bass rig and > guitar, say and SWR setup and a new Les Paul Standard should just about > do it... > > > me The only thing he's throwin is words. -Greg     Date: 11 Sep 2006 13:05:20 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > : > : Chris Bellomy wrote: > : > :> : The only ducking and weaving has come from your hero, Bobby Knight, and > :> : kitty-boy. You know that as well as I do. Difference is....I have the > :> : guts to say it. > :> > :> Then you won't mind demonstrating where Bobby has been inconsistent. > :> I do hope that you will be specific, because I haven't seen it. > : > : 1. He calls Eric a liar, > : 2. Eric offers to verify, for a reasonable price > > But why put a price on it? And why move the goalposts the way > he did? Why should Eric put in effort to prove himself to an individual he cares nothing about, unless there is something worth his time? Sure, Eric could give RSG the college's names and phone numbers but that's a dead end. With privacy laws in full effect, nobody but Eric could acquire the transcripts. I can't speak for Eric but if BK were to promise an apology for smearing him, perhaps the effort required to substantiate Summa Cum Laude would be worth it to Eric. However, an apology would require character on Bobby's part. If I was Eric, I wouldn't bet on that happening. -Greg       Date: 11 Sep 2006 20:43:27 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote: : Why should Eric put in effort to prove himself to an individual he : cares nothing about, unless there is something worth his time? Because it's not about Bobby, it's about him and his claim. And, as I said earlier, he certainly has the option to make the "none of your business, I should never have mentioned it" response, which, while suspicious, would at least have certain base level of dignity about it. As things stand, there's $5000 on the table for him if he can back up his claim, but he's oddly disinclined to collect. I wonder why that is. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/     Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:09:06 From: Tex Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene wrote: > long&left wrote: > > Dene wrote: > > (snip) > > >> I'll enjoy driving your boat next year partner... > > >> Dave > > > > > > Two questions before I say yes. > > > > > > 1. Which boat? I own two. > > > > > > 2. I thought you plonked me aong with Ben? > > > > > > More later, wannabe. > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > that's what I thought, hotshot > > Here's some serious thoughts/questions, brave-Dave. > > 1. 3rd party. You probably met Bill-O at RSG-NW. If not, would you > at least accept his well deserved reputation for being a straight-up > guy? Bill lives about 10 minutes from Eric's house. If Eric drops off > the proof and has Bill review it, would you accept Bill's testimony as > proof? If not, then prescribe your means of verification. I'd trust Bill-O....but, regardless of who sees the "paper", the Universities in question will *have* to be contacted to legitimize the "paper". "Paper" can be forged...and since it has been almost a year since the challenge was first laid down, there was/is enough time to make such forgeries. > 2. Summa Cum Laude. Truthfully I wasn't that familar with these > designations, having graduated on the bottom of my class. So....I > looked it up on the internet last night and learned that is describes > those who are at the top 10 percent of their class. Do you accept this > definition too? The designation is all that matters, either you received such designation, or you didn't. Graduation ceremonies are quite clear who does receive such recognition. Additionally, Hammer's comment about the "paper" in boxes he hasn't looked through for a long period of time (10 yrs? 15yrs?) is rather suspect. Anyone with 3 degrees that achieved Summa Cum Laude will have those displayed "somewhere" for all to see....especially someone like Hammer who loves to tell people what a wonderful person he is. Tex       Date: 11 Sep 2006 12:25:43 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1157994546.560535.90870@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Additionally, Hammer's comment about the "paper" in boxes he hasn't > looked through for a long period of time (10 yrs? 15yrs?) is rather > suspect. Anyone with 3 degrees that achieved Summa Cum Laude will have > those displayed "somewhere" for all to see....especially someone like > Hammer who loves to tell people what a wonderful person he is. > I thought that as well, odd. I no longer display my degree either but I sure know where it is. You would think a Cum Laude would have it framed?     Date: 11 Sep 2006 09:26:35 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > : The only ducking and weaving has come from your hero, Bobby Knight, and > : kitty-boy. You know that as well as I do. Difference is....I have the > : guts to say it. > > Then you won't mind demonstrating where Bobby has been inconsistent. > I do hope that you will be specific, because I haven't seen it. 1. He calls Eric a liar, 2. Eric offers to verify, for a reasonable price 3. Your hero responds by claiming his verfication is pointless, claiming without substance that it would be a lie, thus creating a no-win situation for Eric. That's ducking and weaving. > :> OB golf: would you trust this guy in a match? > : > : Yes....implicitly. I played against him at the Rhoid in match plan. > : He plays by the rules. > > s/plays/played/ > > You're not sufficiently knowledgable to be able to assume that > your round speaks for all his rounds. I've heard stories about > his having trouble with the Rules, but in fairness those stories > were assumed to start with unfamiliarity rather than bad intent. Since it was unfamiliarity, he should be counted as trustworthy, to the extent that he and all of us are capable of making mistakes when counting our own scores and those of others. Need I cite the pros who have made costly mistakes with their scorecard. > Speaking of intent, though, the whole subject could be laid to > rest quickly with either a "none of your business" or the names > of the summa cum laude schools. It's far from clear, though, that > it's Eric's intent to lay this to rest quickly. It could be laid to rest if your hero would shut his alligator mouth and/or back it up. -Greg       Date: 11 Sep 2006 19:43:46 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote: : : Chris Bellomy wrote: : : > : The only ducking and weaving has come from your hero, Bobby Knight, and : > : kitty-boy. You know that as well as I do. Difference is....I have the : > : guts to say it. : > : > Then you won't mind demonstrating where Bobby has been inconsistent. : > I do hope that you will be specific, because I haven't seen it. : : 1. He calls Eric a liar, : 2. Eric offers to verify, for a reasonable price But why put a price on it? And why move the goalposts the way he did? -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/     Date: 11 Sep 2006 09:16:21 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! long&left wrote: > Dene wrote: > (snip) > >> I'll enjoy driving your boat next year partner... > >> Dave > > > > Two questions before I say yes. > > > > 1. Which boat? I own two. > > > > 2. I thought you plonked me aong with Ben? > > > > More later, wannabe. > > > > -Greg > > > > that's what I thought, hotshot Here's some serious thoughts/questions, brave-Dave. 1. 3rd party. You probably met Bill-O at RSG-NW. If not, would you at least accept his well deserved reputation for being a straight-up guy? Bill lives about 10 minutes from Eric's house. If Eric drops off the proof and has Bill review it, would you accept Bill's testimony as proof? If not, then prescribe your means of verification. 2. Summa Cum Laude. Truthfully I wasn't that familar with these designations, having graduated on the bottom of my class. So....I looked it up on the internet last night and learned that is describes those who are at the top 10 percent of their class. Do you accept this definition too? If number 1 and 2 are agreeable, indicate your affirmation in RSG, then e-mail me at gdstrue at aol.com. I'll respond with an account number. If further clarification is required, then respond here and we'll work through it. Oh....obviously being a partner in either boat is impractical, so would you accept 5k in cash if I lose. Also, your challenge said nothing about a time limit. Would the end of September be sufficient? -Greg     Date: 11 Sep 2006 08:37:46 From: annika1980 Subject: Re: OK, I lied! long&left wrote: > > Now me on the other hand, I have $5k to spare, so here's my deal with > you big mouth. My $5k against an equal value share in your boat. > I'll enjoy driving your boat next year partner... > Dave Does the $5K also get you the trophy to go with it? Or is that an extra $20?     Date: 10 Sep 2006 22:49:59 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > Well, I think it's fairly obvious that Eric has engaged in > yet another successful troll with the bet gimmick. He could > have responded to Bobby's flame about the summa cum laude > claim with something like, "It's really none of your business, > I shouldn't have said anything in the first place," and come > out of it looking at least somewhat respectable (if still > mendacious on the subject earlier). > > Or, he could have posted the names of the schools involved > and invited any interested party to make the calls himself. > This would eliminate any problem of Eric's taking the time > to dig up documents and scan them, or whatever. Surely he > remembers where he went to school. Naming those schools > would be painless enough if he accomplished what he says he > did. > > But instead of either of those straightforward approaches, > Eric chose to duck and weave behind requirements for personal > emails, agreements to wagers, etc., declaring victory after > posting no corroborating information supporting his claim > whatsoever... which is fine, if he wants to think he has won > something, that's his right, but my guess is that less than > a handful of people here believe the summa cum laude claim > (if a handful even cares, probably not, but deconstructing > lies is a hobby of mine, sorry). But that's just my guess; > it's up to the individual reader to decide for himself, as > always. The only ducking and weaving has come from your hero, Bobby Knight, and kitty-boy. You know that as well as I do. Difference is....I have the guts to say it. > OB golf: would you trust this guy in a match? Yes....implicitly. I played against him at the Rhoid in match plan. He plays by the rules. -Greg       Date: 11 Sep 2006 08:25:52 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote: : Chris Bellomy wrote: : > But instead of either of those straightforward approaches, : > Eric chose to duck and weave behind requirements for personal : > emails, agreements to wagers, etc., declaring victory after : > posting no corroborating information supporting his claim : > whatsoever... which is fine, if he wants to think he has won : > something, that's his right, but my guess is that less than : > a handful of people here believe the summa cum laude claim : > (if a handful even cares, probably not, but deconstructing : > lies is a hobby of mine, sorry). But that's just my guess; : > it's up to the individual reader to decide for himself, as : > always. : : The only ducking and weaving has come from your hero, Bobby Knight, and : kitty-boy. You know that as well as I do. Difference is....I have the : guts to say it. Then you won't mind demonstrating where Bobby has been inconsistent. I do hope that you will be specific, because I haven't seen it. : > OB golf: would you trust this guy in a match? : : Yes....implicitly. I played against him at the Rhoid in match plan. : He plays by the rules. s/plays/played/ You're not sufficiently knowledgable to be able to assume that your round speaks for all his rounds. I've heard stories about his having trouble with the Rules, but in fairness those stories were assumed to start with unfamiliarity rather than bad intent. Speaking of intent, though, the whole subject could be laid to rest quickly with either a "none of your business" or the names of the summa cum laude schools. It's far from clear, though, that it's Eric's intent to lay this to rest quickly. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/     Date: 10 Sep 2006 22:16:53 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! long&left wrote: > > hey idiot, you don't have $5k to spare so don't bore us with your > bravado. Eric has already backpedaled on his earlier boast about his > degree status so why are you sticking up for his degrees? > > He originally said " I have three college degrees, Business > Administration, Organizational Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases, > graduated summa cum laude" > > and he admitted earlier today that that was not quite true, that only > two were summa cum laude...AND, he won't produce any documentation about > any of his supposed degrees without a "bet". Yeah right, like he's to be > trusted. > > Now me on the other hand, I have $5k to spare, so here's my deal with > you big mouth. My $5k against an equal value share in your boat. Eric > provides verifiable information from the institutions that he obtained > his degrees from that he he is in fact degreed suuma cum laude in each > of his noted fields. If he does, you can have my $5k. I'll put it in an > account of your choice tomorrow (9/11/06) via certified check with the > caveat that the degree information as noted above is required for > withdrawal of the funds. > > I'll enjoy driving your boat next year partner... > Dave Two questions before I say yes. 1. Which boat? I own two. 2. I thought you plonked me aong with Ben? More later, wannabe. -Greg       Date: 11 Sep 2006 07:36:18 From: long&left Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene wrote: (snip) >> I'll enjoy driving your boat next year partner... >> Dave > > Two questions before I say yes. > > 1. Which boat? I own two. > > 2. I thought you plonked me aong with Ben? > > More later, wannabe. > > -Greg > that's what I thought, hotshot     Date: 10 Sep 2006 20:17:28 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote: > > I bow to your superiority in Google Archive searches... Now there's a twosome who should get a room. -Greg     Date: 10 Sep 2006 20:05:40 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote: > The Hammer wrote: > > But I love a > > bet. You are talking to a guy here that loves craps, poker, blackjack, > > and playing the ponies. I would love to play you. > > > > The Hammer > > Hammer wrote:Dec.15,2005 8:55 PM > > "I am not a gambler." > > "Gambling goes against my grain and does nothing for me." > > "It (gambling) is for fools". > > "Biggest stakesI ever played for is $50 on a craps table and that is > the extent of it". > > You are indeed the biggest liar I have ever encountered. Liars can > never keep their stories straight. Do you think that any gentleman > would make a wager with you? > You make the air in this group stink. You sink lower every time you > open your mouth. > You are building a mountain of bills to pay, and one day your bill will > come due. I want to be there on that day. fuckface, that was a post almost a year ago. Since then, I have had several trips to where there have been casinos and been to the horse track once, low stakes, and enjoyed it immensely. Yea, gambling is for fools. I have no use for it. I have too much respect for money and anyone that loses their shirt is an idiot. But when I went, i enjoyed it and losing a few dollars keeps it in persepctive. I am going out to LV in Feb, 2007 for a conference. May bet a bit, just because I am there. It is fun. I love them just as games, but not for the gambling aspect I am not a gambler. Going to the table with $50 at most does not make you a gambler, but I will admit to it being fun after doing it a few times.. In fact, I have come to love craps and blackjack, and play them every so often on-line with phony money The games are fun. The gambling aspect of it is not for me, as I do not expect to make a fortune. I expect to lose. . No lies fuckface. Still waiting for the email with your personal info so we can makethis wager. This is just spin. Is the wager on or off? Will await your email with your personal info so we can talk and complete this wager. the hammer     Date: 10 Sep 2006 19:32:27 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote: > You are indeed the biggest liar I have ever encountered. Liars can > never keep their stories straight. Do you think that any gentleman > would make a wager with you? > You make the air in this group stink. You sink lower every time you > open your mouth. > You are building a mountain of bills to pay, and one day your bill will > come due. I want to be there on that day. So am I to interpret through all this blather that you're not willing to bet him. Tell you what, kitty. If Eric and you agrees to a bet and he refuses to pay you, I will on his behalf. Don't trust me, then how about Brad Greer or Chris Stricker or both? I'll give either/both my paypal password, which ties directly to one of my checking accounts. You purrin....kitty? -Greg       Date: 10 Sep 2006 20:57:11 From: long&left Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene wrote: > bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote: >> You are indeed the biggest liar I have ever encountered. Liars can >> never keep their stories straight. Do you think that any gentleman >> would make a wager with you? >> You make the air in this group stink. You sink lower every time you >> open your mouth. >> You are building a mountain of bills to pay, and one day your bill will >> come due. I want to be there on that day. > > So am I to interpret through all this blather that you're not willing > to bet him. Tell you what, kitty. If Eric and you agrees to a bet and > he refuses to pay you, I will on his behalf. > > Don't trust me, then how about Brad Greer or Chris Stricker or both? > I'll give either/both my paypal password, which ties directly to one of > my checking accounts. > > You purrin....kitty? > > > -Greg > hey idiot, you don't have $5k to spare so don't bore us with your bravado. Eric has already backpedaled on his earlier boast about his degree status so why are you sticking up for his degrees? He originally said " I have three college degrees, Business Administration, Organizational Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases, graduated summa cum laude" and he admitted earlier today that that was not quite true, that only two were summa cum laude...AND, he won't produce any documentation about any of his supposed degrees without a "bet". Yeah right, like he's to be trusted. Now me on the other hand, I have $5k to spare, so here's my deal with you big mouth. My $5k against an equal value share in your boat. Eric provides verifiable information from the institutions that he obtained his degrees from that he he is in fact degreed suuma cum laude in each of his noted fields. If he does, you can have my $5k. I'll put it in an account of your choice tomorrow (9/11/06) via certified check with the caveat that the degree information as noted above is required for withdrawal of the funds. I'll enjoy driving your boat next year partner... Dave         Date: 12 Sep 2006 03:41:31 From: Sparky Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 10-Sep-2006, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote: > Now me on the other hand, I have $5k to spare, While you're throwin out the dough, I could use a new bass rig and guitar, say and SWR setup and a new Les Paul Standard should just about do it... me           Date: 12 Sep 2006 07:26:41 From: long&left Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Sparky wrote: > On 10-Sep-2006, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote: > >> Now me on the other hand, I have $5k to spare, > > While you're throwin out the dough, I could use a new bass rig and > guitar, say and SWR setup and a new Les Paul Standard should just about > do it... > > > me no prob, I loan cash at low low rates. Just let me know how much you need...         Date: 11 Sep 2006 07:56:05 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:57:11 -0700, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote: >Dene wrote: >> bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote: >>> You are indeed the biggest liar I have ever encountered. Liars can >>> never keep their stories straight. Do you think that any gentleman >>> would make a wager with you? >>> You make the air in this group stink. You sink lower every time you >>> open your mouth. >>> You are building a mountain of bills to pay, and one day your bill will >>> come due. I want to be there on that day. >> >> So am I to interpret through all this blather that you're not willing >> to bet him. Tell you what, kitty. If Eric and you agrees to a bet and >> he refuses to pay you, I will on his behalf. >> >> Don't trust me, then how about Brad Greer or Chris Stricker or both? >> I'll give either/both my paypal password, which ties directly to one of >> my checking accounts. >> >> You purrin....kitty? >> >> >> -Greg >> > >hey idiot, you don't have $5k to spare so don't bore us with your >bravado. Eric has already backpedaled on his earlier boast about his >degree status so why are you sticking up for his degrees? > >He originally said " I have three college degrees, Business >Administration, Organizational Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases, >graduated summa cum laude" > >and he admitted earlier today that that was not quite true, that only >two were summa cum laude...AND, he won't produce any documentation about >any of his supposed degrees without a "bet". Yeah right, like he's to be >trusted. > >Now me on the other hand, I have $5k to spare, so here's my deal with >you big mouth. My $5k against an equal value share in your boat. Eric >provides verifiable information from the institutions that he obtained >his degrees from that he he is in fact degreed suuma cum laude in each >of his noted fields. If he does, you can have my $5k. I'll put it in an >account of your choice tomorrow (9/11/06) via certified check with the >caveat that the degree information as noted above is required for >withdrawal of the funds. > >I'll enjoy driving your boat next year partner... >Dave No chance Dave. Greg is as much a slitherer as Eric. Watch him back down. ___, \o           Date: 11 Sep 2006 07:40:40 From: long&left Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: (snip) >> >> I'll enjoy driving your boat next year partner... >> Dave > > No chance Dave. Greg is as much a slitherer as Eric. Watch him back > down. > ___, > \o >     Date: 11 Sep 2006 01:12:45 From: Robert Hamilton Subject: Re: OK, I lied! bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote: > You make the air in this group stink. You sink lower every time you > open your mouth. > This is a message board. If you don't want to exchange messages with someone, don't. If you do, you make the same air.       Date: 10 Sep 2006 20:51:27 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:12:45 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net > wrote: > > >bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote: > >> You make the air in this group stink. You sink lower every time you >> open your mouth. >> > >This is a message board. If you don't want to exchange messages with someone, >don't. If you do, you make the same air. > This is a message board. If you don't want to exchange messages with someone, don't. If you do, you make the same air.     Date: 10 Sep 2006 17:25:38 From: Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: But I love a > bet. You are talking to a guy here that loves craps, poker, blackjack, > and playing the ponies. I would love to play you. > > The Hammer Hammer wrote:Dec.15,2005 8:55 PM "I am not a gambler." "Gambling goes against my grain and does nothing for me." "It (gambling) is for fools". "Biggest stakesI ever played for is $50 on a craps table and that is the extent of it". You are indeed the biggest liar I have ever encountered. Liars can never keep their stories straight. Do you think that any gentleman would make a wager with you? You make the air in this group stink. You sink lower every time you open your mouth. You are building a mountain of bills to pay, and one day your bill will come due. I want to be there on that day.       Date: 10 Sep 2006 19:41:53 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 10 Sep 2006 17:25:38 -0700, bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote: > >The Hammer wrote: > > But I love a >> bet. You are talking to a guy here that loves craps, poker, blackjack, >> and playing the ponies. I would love to play you. > > >> The Hammer > >Hammer wrote:Dec.15,2005 8:55 PM > >"I am not a gambler." > >"Gambling goes against my grain and does nothing for me." > >"It (gambling) is for fools". > >"Biggest stakesI ever played for is $50 on a craps table and that is >the extent of it". > >You are indeed the biggest liar I have ever encountered. Liars can >never keep their stories straight. Do you think that any gentleman >would make a wager with you? >You make the air in this group stink. You sink lower every time you >open your mouth. You are building a mountain of bills to pay, and one day your bill will >come due. I want to be there on that day. Bingo! Who in their right mind would trust him? ___, \o       Date: 11 Sep 2006 00:29:04 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! <bigoldcat2@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157934338.072625.16850@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > The Hammer wrote: > > But I love a >> bet. You are talking to a guy here that loves craps, poker, blackjack, >> and playing the ponies. I would love to play you. > > >> The Hammer > > Hammer wrote:Dec.15,2005 8:55 PM > > "I am not a gambler." > > "Gambling goes against my grain and does nothing for me." > > "It (gambling) is for fools". > > "Biggest stakesI ever played for is $50 on a craps table and that is > the extent of it". > > You are indeed the biggest liar I have ever encountered. Liars can > never keep their stories straight. Do you think that any gentleman > would make a wager with you? > You make the air in this group stink. You sink lower every time you > open your mouth. > You are building a mountain of bills to pay, and one day your bill will > come due. I want to be there on that day. > I bow to your superiority in Google Archive searches...     Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:14:45 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > Bobby Knight wrote: > > On 10 Sep 2006 12:19:39 -0700, bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> Are we on or off old man? > > >> > > >> The Hammer > > > > > >I'll cover the bet. Post the three summa cum laude degrees from the > > >accredited schools. > > >Let's end this silliness. Go and have whomever scan and post these > > >degrees. > > > > > >You stated on Dec.21,2005 7:26 AM > > >"I have three college degrees, Business Admin., Organizational > > >Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases graduated summa cum laude. > > > > Don't accept any scans...he can do whatever he wants with that. He > > needs to just post where those degrees came from, and when. Then > > you can check with the school(s). > > ___, > > \o > >       Date: 11 Sep 2006 05:20:38 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Well, I think it's fairly obvious that Eric has engaged in yet another successful troll with the bet gimmick. He could have responded to Bobby's flame about the summa cum laude claim with something like, "It's really none of your business, I shouldn't have said anything in the first place," and come out of it looking at least somewhat respectable (if still mendacious on the subject earlier). Or, he could have posted the names of the schools involved and invited any interested party to make the calls himself. This would eliminate any problem of Eric's taking the time to dig up documents and scan them, or whatever. Surely he remembers where he went to school. Naming those schools would be painless enough if he accomplished what he says he did. But instead of either of those straightforward approaches, Eric chose to duck and weave behind requirements for personal emails, agreements to wagers, etc., declaring victory after posting no corroborating information supporting his claim whatsoever... which is fine, if he wants to think he has won something, that's his right, but my guess is that less than a handful of people here believe the summa cum laude claim (if a handful even cares, probably not, but deconstructing lies is a hobby of mine, sorry). But that's just my guess; it's up to the individual reader to decide for himself, as always. OB golf: would you trust this guy in a match? -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/         Date: 11 Sep 2006 21:20:45 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bear wrote: > Is the Associates the 2 year nursing degree? My ex-wife is a nurse. I seem to recall paying for a 3 year program. You should probably ask Eric. -Greg         Date: 11 Sep 2006 11:44:08 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message news:0T3f5flhI2feN34@redshark.goodshow.net... > Well, I think it's fairly obvious that Eric has engaged in > yet another successful troll with the bet gimmick. His "cumwad" post was a failed troll and yet when it failed he claimed it was a success. He either has poor analytic skills or the subject line to his follow-up post would need to once again be invoked to explain his "reasoning".     Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:13:05 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > On 10 Sep 2006 12:19:39 -0700, bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > >> Are we on or off old man? > >> > >> The Hammer > > > >I'll cover the bet. Post the three summa cum laude degrees from the > >accredited schools. > >Let's end this silliness. Go and have whomever scan and post these > >degrees. > > > >You stated on Dec.21,2005 7:26 AM > >"I have three college degrees, Business Admin., Organizational > >Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases graduated summa cum laude. > > Don't accept any scans...he can do whatever he wants with that. He > needs to just post where those degrees came from, and when. Then > you can check with the school(s). > ___, > \o >       Date: 11 Sep 2006 13:46:11 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > My disbelief was strengthened when I first challenged him about this. > Then he retracted the original statement about 3 degrees with SCL, > and altered it, as posted here yesterday. Perhaps your disbelief has merit. All is required is some chump change, rich guy. -Greg       Date: 10 Sep 2006 18:38:21 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 10 Sep 2006 16:13:05 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: >Man, are you paranoid. Like I would document a transcript or degree. > I'm not paranoid, you just aren't trustworthy. You've changed what you originally said, and the only default is by you. >I have won the bet buy default. As you will not even accept a scan. Who in the world would trust you for that? >What more proof can i provide. Even if i give you the phone number of >the appropriate institutions, it is unlikely they will give out >information on the phone without some type of written release from me. > Wrong. That information is available. There's so much crap said by you that if you think I'd trust your word, think again. A scan can be altered, and by you probably would be. Bigoldcat called the bet....let him worry about you and your shenanigans. You call his bet? I wouldn't touch it without real proof, and you aren't about to offer that. <clip > > In the absence of you willing to put some bucks where you mouth is, I will consider this >wager dropped by default and I will accept a "win" in my column. You can shove your "default" where the sun doesn't shine. I still consider that your first statement is false and you don't have the balls to stand by it. ___, \o     Date: 09 Sep 2006 19:16:43 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > It still goes on. One crony has shared a bit of this info with me. I > will not give his name or reprint emails, but I know damn well that > this group is obsessed with me, Larry, Dene, and others. Obsessed to > the point that you need to discuss and deliberate it across the country > and then strategize ways to make us look bad. The problem with going with the big bluff here, Eric, is that when when you use one lie to introduce another, it's kinda obvious that, well, you're lying. If you're going to claim that there's a mole on the c-list feeding you the scoop on what goes on there, at least make better guesses about what that actually is. And don't act like you're not colluding with your buddies when you trot out your cumwad bait, ok? Now, don't you have a crossburning to get to? -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/     Date: 09 Sep 2006 19:01:24 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157828082.834958.32580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... >>> > >> Which is why I responded to it. >> >> Don't look now, but your paranoia is showing. >> > It sure wasn't about discounts on health insurance for you. Why would it be? > It still goes on. One crony has shared a bit of this info with me. Not much of a crony, is he? > Obsessed to the point that you need to discuss and deliberate it across > the country > and then strategize ways to make us look bad. Hey, we don't care if we > look bad. It ain't important. But it seems awfully important to some > of you. If you do not care, then why are you constantly bringing it up? > Enough said. you hard ons can deliberate this all day long and call me > paranoid, crazy, whatever. Come up with some new names or > characterizationsif you want. And then you can get on your crony list > and discuss this for hours on end. Go for it, I really don't care. Again you claim not to care, but you also claim your post was to show how we C-Listers communicate by, uh..., NOT posting to RSG (hope I followed your logic). Why place a troll post to RSG if you "really don't care"?   Date: 09 Sep 2006 11:33:15 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Chris Bellomy wrote: > >> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > Dene is not a Cumwad. > >> > >> You can hump his leg all you want, but maybe you should go find > >> a room first. > > > > He's got a point Eric. Most of the time, Bellomy's C-list circle-jerk > > in private.> no other reason than to troll and then beat our chests about > > Well, you don't see us calling each other cumwads in rsg for > what st trolls we were. You have to look to guys like Eric > for stuff like that. > > -- > Chris Bellomy > C-List Charter Member > http://clist.org/ The post was an obvious troll. Any idiot could have figured it out. But the troll had a strategic purpose. What happened was that a no feed the trolls decree was put out and it worked. That you guys have nothing better to do with your time than be in constant communication. I got this info from one of your cronies. There is a break in the ranks, quite sadly. The troll was to prove a point. The point made. You old ladies have nothing better to do than email each other all day long.. It started with Felicity, George hibbard, and continues on with me, Larry, Dene,etc. You are in touch with each other all the time, sharing gossip and looking for an angle to make someone look bad. And you know we know it, that what gets you all so pissed off. The Hammer     Date: 09 Sep 2006 18:45:29 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > > Chris Bellomy wrote: >> Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: >> > >> > Chris Bellomy wrote: >> >> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > Dene is not a Cumwad. >> >> >> >> You can hump his leg all you want, but maybe you should go find >> >> a room first. >> > >> > He's got a point Eric. Most of the time, Bellomy's C-list circle-jerk >> > in private.> no other reason than to troll and then beat our chests about >> >> Well, you don't see us calling each other cumwads in rsg for > >> what st trolls we were. You have to look to guys like Eric >> for stuff like that. > > The post was an obvious troll. Any idiot could have figured it out. Knowing your history, who the hell could say for sure? > But the troll had a strategic purpose. Right, it gave you an excuse to stroke yourself in public again for being so super clever! > What happened was that a no feed the trolls decree was put out and it > worked. Which is why I responded to it. Don't look now, but your paranoia is showing. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/       Date: 10 Sep 2006 19:47:11 From: annika1980 Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > The bet is still on if Bobby decides to change his mind. I will gladly > scan all related documents to an impartial 3rd party if he decides to > accept the bet. Annika1980 is my pick. He would not lie on my behalf > or on Bobby's behalf. I trust the guy if he would volunteer for this > mission. What do you say Anni? > Well you did mention using a disinterested third party. Nobody could be more disinterested in this than me. And just to insure that everything is on the up-and-up, perhaps we should discuss my cut up front.       Date: 09 Sep 2006 23:11:43 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote: > "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1157864438.198276.207310@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > > >Whatever flames i have had with Anni, they are weeks > >ago and we have since resolved them privately. > > Whatever flames you have had with Bobby, they are hours ago. 460 minutes to be exact. -Greg       Date: 09 Sep 2006 22:52:10 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! my last words on this wager dialogue with Bobby. Let us recall these words of Mr. Knight: "Three degrees with honors my ass!! Plus you're ashamed of where you got them, because you won't say. Why? Because you know it can't be verified. " Strong words. He states my degrees cannot be verified. Yet, he won't accept a bet when I offer to verify them. And not verifying them verbally, but through a scan of the related documents to a disinterested 3rd party. All wind, no substance. If there was any substance behind the wind, the wager would be accepted. the Hammer         Date: 10 Sep 2006 08:14:31 From: long&left Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > my last words on this wager dialogue with Bobby. > > Let us recall these words of Mr. Knight: > > "Three degrees with honors my > ass!! Plus you're ashamed of where you got them, because you won't > say. Why? Because you know it can't be verified. " > > Strong words. He states my degrees cannot be verified. Yet, he won't > accept a bet when I offer to verify them. And not verifying them > verbally, but through a scan of the related documents to a > disinterested 3rd party. > > All wind, no substance. If there was any substance behind the wind, > the wager would be accepted. > > > the Hammer > what I'd like to know is, why does there have to be a bet? Someone questioned the fact that you have 3 degrees of a certain type. If you have them, produce them. If you don't have them STFU. There shouldn't have to be any money involved for you to resolve this quickly and efficiently. I'd be happy to post them on my webpage or ftp site if you would like to show them to everyone. Dave           Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:27:52 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message news:fZVMg.1475$aw5.1167@newsfe07.lga... > The Hammer wrote: >> my last words on this wager dialogue with Bobby. >> >> Let us recall these words of Mr. Knight: >> >> "Three degrees with honors my >> ass!! Plus you're ashamed of where you got them, because you won't >> say. Why? Because you know it can't be verified. " >> >> Strong words. He states my degrees cannot be verified. Yet, he won't >> accept a bet when I offer to verify them. And not verifying them >> verbally, but through a scan of the related documents to a >> disinterested 3rd party. >> >> All wind, no substance. If there was any substance behind the wind, >> the wager would be accepted. the Hammer >> > > what I'd like to know is, why does there have to be a bet? Someone > questioned the fact that you have 3 degrees of a certain type. If you have > them, produce them. If you don't have them STFU. There shouldn't have to > be any money involved for you to resolve this quickly and efficiently. I'd > be happy to post them on my webpage or ftp site if you would like to show > them to everyone. > Dave Eric is a poser period.       Date: 09 Sep 2006 22:24:05 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote: > "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1157864438.198276.207310@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > > >Whatever flames i have had with Anni, they are weeks > >ago and we have since resolved them privately. > > Whatever flames you have had with Bobby, they are hours ago. Spin Spin Spin Is the bet on or off? It seems that it is off, but I am willing to give another chance to Bobby to redeem himself. He has called me a liar. If he is so sure of it, why doesn't he accept the bet and collect the easiest 5K he has ever made. Man, that would pay for several days of golf on the Monterey Peninsula. How could anyone conceivably turn down such a trip if they were so sure of being right and the other person being a liar as reported. Enough said about all this. If Bobby wants to accept the bet, I am open. He just has to let me know. Otherwise, I win by default. Case closed! The Hammer         Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:48:46 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157865845.075597.238880@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote: >> "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:1157864438.198276.207310@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... >> > >> >Whatever flames i have had with Anni, they are weeks >> >ago and we have since resolved them privately. >> >> Whatever flames you have had with Bobby, they are hours ago. > > Spin Spin Spin > > Is the bet on or off? Why ask me? I am not the head of the C-List and do not decide such things.       Date: 09 Sep 2006 22:00:38 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote: > "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1157862608.696219.265950@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > >> Seems the facts are quite simple. > >> > >> Eric has three degrees with honors. > >> B.O.B. says he doesn't. > >> Eric says it's so and puts up 5k. > >> B.O.B. retreats, using an obvious diversion, > >> while threatening to sick their pet google go-fer on him. > >> > >> -Greg > > > > The bet is still on if Bobby decides to change his mind. I will gladly > > scan all related documents to an impartial 3rd party if he decides to > > accept the bet. Annika1980 is my pick. He would not lie on my behalf > > or on Bobby's behalf. I trust the guy if he would volunteer for this > > mission. What do you say Anni? > > > > Are you nuts? Why would you trust him, he's just a "dumb fucking > underachieving uneducated redneck" not to mention a "low life loser" > > But, if you are gonna see Bret, now would be a good time to take him up on > the bet that he could beat you standing on one leg. You wanted to make it > $1,000, right? Is the bet on or off?. I am willing to put up 5K to prove BK wrong. Doesn't matter if the scan goes to Anni, Osama bin Laden, or whomever. This is just spin you are providing here. You get off on all this crap and spin. Glad to feed you. Please clean your PC screen, it now has a white haze! . Whatever flames i have had with Anni, they are weeks ago and we have since resolved them privately. And regardless of whether I love or hate the guy, I do believe he would be impartial when it came to the authenticity of some scans. A bet was made. It was refused. That means I win the bet by default. Spin all you want computer nerd, that is the bottom line. The bet still stands if Bobby still believes me to be a liar. What an easy way to make 5K. He has stated me to be a liar, now it is up to me to prove otherwise or pay up. If I can't provide the pudding, he has 5K to go on a nice vacation with. Seems to me if he was so sure of all this, accepting the bet would be a no brainer. The Hammer         Date: 10 Sep 2006 05:17:51 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157864438.198276.207310@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > >Whatever flames i have had with Anni, they are weeks >ago and we have since resolved them privately. Whatever flames you have had with Bobby, they are hours ago.       Date: 09 Sep 2006 21:30:08 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! > Seems the facts are quite simple. > > Eric has three degrees with honors. > B.O.B. says he doesn't. > Eric says it's so and puts up 5k. > B.O.B. retreats, using an obvious diversion, > while threatening to sick their pet google go-fer on him. > > -Greg The bet is still on if Bobby decides to change his mind. I will gladly scan all related documents to an impartial 3rd party if he decides to accept the bet. Annika1980 is my pick. He would not lie on my behalf or on Bobby's behalf. I trust the guy if he would volunteer for this mission. What do you say Anni? The Hammer         Date: 10 Sep 2006 06:34:53 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 9 Sep 2006 21:30:08 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > >> Seems the facts are quite simple. >> >> Eric has three degrees with honors. >> B.O.B. says he doesn't. >> Eric says it's so and puts up 5k. >> B.O.B. retreats, using an obvious diversion, >> while threatening to sick their pet google go-fer on him. >> >> -Greg > >The bet is still on if Bobby decides to change his mind. I will gladly >scan all related documents to an impartial 3rd party if he decides to >accept the bet. Annika1980 is my pick. He would not lie on my behalf >or on Bobby's behalf. I trust the guy if he would volunteer for this >mission. What do you say Anni? > >The Hammer OK shitface. Here's your original statement, and the following one that refutes it. >From: The Hammer - view profile >Date: Wed, Dec 21 2005 6:26 am >Because you are insignificant to me and I have nothing to prove to you. I >Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases, graduated summa cum laude. Believe it >or not, I really couldn't care. If you are going on the record to say I am >not telling the truth, please say so. It would not be hard to prove you >wrong and just trolling. IN ALL CASES!! There's the lie. I called you on it and you then crawfished: >The Hammer >Date: Wed, Dec 21 2005 8:09 am >OK. Here is the deal. I will make you a bet that I have three majors from >two colleges One college degree from a school of business adminsitration >with majors in Industrial Relations(which is fancy term for Human Resources >Mgt) and Organizational Behavior(which is fancy term for Organizational >Psychology and Dynamics).. The second school , a degree in Nursing.. I >will prove that I graduated summa cum laude from one of them. Spin all you want. You've admitted here that you lied. ___, \o           Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:29:08 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message news:smt7g29jq9ae9e5f2r44udf1cj9djvennf@4ax.com... > On 9 Sep 2006 21:30:08 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >>> Seems the facts are quite simple. >>> >>> Eric has three degrees with honors. >>> B.O.B. says he doesn't. >>> Eric says it's so and puts up 5k. >>> B.O.B. retreats, using an obvious diversion, >>> while threatening to sick their pet google go-fer on him. >>> >>> -Greg >> >>The bet is still on if Bobby decides to change his mind. I will gladly >>scan all related documents to an impartial 3rd party if he decides to >>accept the bet. Annika1980 is my pick. He would not lie on my behalf >>or on Bobby's behalf. I trust the guy if he would volunteer for this >>mission. What do you say Anni? >> >>The Hammer > > OK shitface. Here's your original statement, and the following one > that refutes it. > >>From: The Hammer - view profile > >>Date: Wed, Dec 21 2005 6:26 am > >>Because you are insignificant to me and I have nothing to prove to you. I >>Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases, graduated summa cum laude. Believe >>it >>or not, I really couldn't care. If you are going on the record to say I >>am >>not telling the truth, please say so. It would not be hard to prove you >>wrong and just trolling. > > IN ALL CASES!! There's the lie. > I called you on it and you then crawfished: > >>The Hammer >>Date: Wed, Dec 21 2005 8:09 am > >>OK. Here is the deal. I will make you a bet that I have three majors >>from >>two colleges One college degree from a school of business adminsitration >>with majors in Industrial Relations(which is fancy term for Human >>Resources >>Mgt) and Organizational Behavior(which is fancy term for Organizational >>Psychology and Dynamics).. The second school , a degree in Nursing.. I >>will prove that I graduated summa cum laude from one of them. > > Spin all you want. You've admitted here that you lied. > This guy's simply amazing Bobby. He should work for the DNC. :-)             Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:34:26 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:29:08 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote: > >"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message >news:smt7g29jq9ae9e5f2r44udf1cj9djvennf@4ax.com... >> OK shitface. Here's your original statement, and the following one >> that refutes it. >> >>>From: The Hammer - view profile >> >>>Date: Wed, Dec 21 2005 6:26 am >> >>>Because you are insignificant to me and I have nothing to prove to you. I >>>Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases, graduated summa cum laude. Believe >>>it >>>or not, I really couldn't care. If you are going on the record to say I >>>am >>>not telling the truth, please say so. It would not be hard to prove you >>>wrong and just trolling. >> >> IN ALL CASES!! There's the lie. >> I called you on it and you then crawfished: >> >>>The Hammer >>>Date: Wed, Dec 21 2005 8:09 am >> >>>OK. Here is the deal. I will make you a bet that I have three majors >>>from >>>two colleges One college degree from a school of business adminsitration >>>with majors in Industrial Relations(which is fancy term for Human >>>Resources >>>Mgt) and Organizational Behavior(which is fancy term for Organizational >>>Psychology and Dynamics).. The second school , a degree in Nursing.. I >>>will prove that I graduated summa cum laude from one of them. >> >> Spin all you want. You've admitted here that you lied. >> >This guy's simply amazing Bobby. He should work for the DNC. :-) > Neither party would want him. No credibility. ___, \o           Date: 10 Sep 2006 15:50:07 From: Robert Hamilton Subject: Re: OK, I lied! What anyone says on here means "virtually" nothing. Either Eric has the degrees, in reality, or not. You want to "call" Eric on this, put up the 5K or shut up.             Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:11:03 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:50:07 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net > wrote: >What anyone says on here means "virtually" nothing. Either Eric has the degrees, >in reality, or not. You want to "call" Eric on this, put up the 5K or shut up. Which reality should we discuss. He's changed it several times now. ___, \o           Date: 10 Sep 2006 06:42:28 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 06:34:53 -0500, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote: Just to make sure that the whole quote is correct. >From: The Hammer - view profile Date: Wed, Dec 21 2005 6:26 am >Because you are insignificant to me and I have nothing to prove to you. I >have three college degrees, Business Administration, Organizational >Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases, graduated summa cum laude. Believe it >or not, I really couldn't care. If you are going on the record to say I am >not telling the truth, please say so. It would not be hard to prove you >wrong and just trolling. >The Hammer " I have three college degrees, Business Administration, Organizational Behavior, and Nursing. In all cases, graduated summa cum laude". ___, \o         Date: 10 Sep 2006 04:52:22 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157862608.696219.265950@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >> Seems the facts are quite simple. >> >> Eric has three degrees with honors. >> B.O.B. says he doesn't. >> Eric says it's so and puts up 5k. >> B.O.B. retreats, using an obvious diversion, >> while threatening to sick their pet google go-fer on him. >> >> -Greg > > The bet is still on if Bobby decides to change his mind. I will gladly > scan all related documents to an impartial 3rd party if he decides to > accept the bet. Annika1980 is my pick. He would not lie on my behalf > or on Bobby's behalf. I trust the guy if he would volunteer for this > mission. What do you say Anni? > Are you nuts? Why would you trust him, he's just a "dumb fucking underachieving uneducated redneck" not to mention a "low life loser" But, if you are gonna see Bret, now would be a good time to take him up on the bet that he could beat you standing on one leg. You wanted to make it $1,000, right?       Date: 09 Sep 2006 21:02:26 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > On 9 Sep 2006 20:03:43 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >OK you old shitstain. I have a transcript that shows two degrees with > >summa cum laude. I have a third degree that was also summa cum laude, > >but there is no such notation on it. I could get verification by mail, > >but that would take some time and frankly I am not going to bother. > First of all, you lied again....you answered. > > > >Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the > >documents to a disinterested third party here. Showing them two > >degrees, a BS of Commerce in Industrial Relations and Management and a > >BS of Commerce in Organizational Behavior which is essentially > >psychology with a business spin. I have a third degree in Nursing, an > >Associates, which was also Summa Cum Laude, in fact second in the > >class, but this is not denoted on the degree. So all I can provide is > >my word on that. These are not as you relate, in your normal asshole > >fashion, mail order degrees. They are from accredited colleges. > > I'm willing to put money on your original statement. You said that > you had three degrees, all cum laude. You've already backed down > from that. You lied. Period. > > >I am highly educated, and proud of my educational accomplishments. > > How can you be highly educated and not be able to spell? :-) Don't > challenge that, or I'll get Alan to whip up some Google goodies for > you. > > > > I have three degrees. I can prove it. Are you willing to back up your incessant claims that I am lying? > > As I said. I have your original statement. You can't back it up. It > was a lie. > > > > >Are we on or off old man? > > > You're off toilet plunger. > > ...but you weren't going to ever respond to me again....and you were > going to leave forever. > > Pitiful. > ___, > \o >       Date: 09 Sep 2006 20:34:04 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > On 9 Sep 2006 20:03:43 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >OK you old shitstain. I have a transcript that shows two degrees with > >summa cum laude. I have a third degree that was also summa cum laude, > >but there is no such notation on it. I could get verification by mail, > >but that would take some time and frankly I am not going to bother. > First of all, you lied again....you answered. > > > >Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the > >documents to a disinterested third party here. Showing them two > >degrees, a BS of Commerce in Industrial Relations and Management and a > >BS of Commerce in Organizational Behavior which is essentially > >psychology with a business spin. I have a third degree in Nursing, an > >Associates, which was also Summa Cum Laude, in fact second in the > >class, but this is not denoted on the degree. So all I can provide is > >my word on that. These are not as you relate, in your normal asshole > >fashion, mail order degrees. They are from accredited colleges. > > I'm willing to put money on your original statement. You said that > you had three degrees, all cum laude. You've already backed down > from that. You lied. Period. > > >I am highly educated, and proud of my educational accomplishments. > > How can you be highly educated and not be able to spell? :-) Don't > challenge that, or I'll get Alan to whip up some Google goodies for > you. > > > > I have three degrees. I can prove it. Are you willing to back up your incessant claims that I am lying? > > As I said. I have your original statement. You can't back it up. It > was a lie. > > > > >Are we on or off old man? > > > You're off toilet plunger. > > ...but you weren't going to ever respond to me again....and you were > going to leave forever. > > Pitiful. > ___, > \o >         Date: 09 Sep 2006 22:50:50 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 9 Sep 2006 20:34:04 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > >Bobby Knight wrote: >> On 9 Sep 2006 20:03:43 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > >When it comes to putting up the big bucks, I knew you would retreat. >Because I am right. HAHAHAHAHA! As I said. I have your original statement. You can't back it up. It was a lie. No retreat from that...but you can spin it if you like. > >Pitiful am I?. Yep. > >With as many years as you have left , I want you to feel a sense of >power, a sense of victory. So i defer to you. I am pitiful. THE >HAMMER IS PITIFUL! A TOTAL AND COMPLETE LOSER! > Damn. You CAN tell the truth! ___, \o     Date: 09 Sep 2006 18:43:26 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157826795.764709.32080@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Chris Bellomy wrote: >> Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: >> > >> > Chris Bellomy wrote: >> >> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > Dene is not a Cumwad. >> >> >> >> You can hump his leg all you want, but maybe you should go find >> >> a room first. >> > >> > He's got a point Eric. Most of the time, Bellomy's C-list circle-jerk >> > in private.> no other reason than to troll and then beat our chests >> > about >> >> Well, you don't see us calling each other cumwads in rsg for > >> what st trolls we were. You have to look to guys like Eric >> for stuff like that. >> >> -- >> Chris Bellomy >> C-List Charter Member >> http://clist.org/ > > > The post was an obvious troll. Any idiot could have figured it out. > But the troll had a strategic purpose. Yes, if people replied you could scream that they were attacking and piling on. If they did not reply you could criticize that behavior as well. Not terribly sophisitcated Sophistry, IMHO. >There is a break in the ranks, quite sadly. Wait until fiveiron hears about this!   Date: 09 Sep 2006 11:02:38 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Dene is not a Cumwad. > > You can hump his leg all you want, but maybe you should go find > a room first. > He's got a point Eric. Most of the time, Bellomy's C-list circle-jerk in private. -Greg     Date: 09 Sep 2006 18:24:25 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote: > > Chris Bellomy wrote: >> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > Dene is not a Cumwad. >> >> You can hump his leg all you want, but maybe you should go find >> a room first. > > He's got a point Eric. Most of the time, Bellomy's C-list circle-jerk > in private. Well, you don't see us calling each other cumwads in rsg for no other reason than to troll and then beat our chests about what st trolls we were. You have to look to guys like Eric for stuff like that. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/       Date: 11 Sep 2006 11:04:44 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! MnMikew wrote: > "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote in message > news:1157991479.802975.160830@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > > > MnMikew wrote: > >> "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >> news:1157865222.861299.135030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >> > > >> > I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and > >> > have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is > >> > about it. > >> > > >> Funny my 13 year old can do it. Nice dodge. > > > > Noticed that you didn't post this weekend. No internet access in jail? > > > None in the golf cart either. Good one! -Greg       Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:04:19 From: Tex Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Dene wrote: > MnMikew wrote: > > "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1157865222.861299.135030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and > > > have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is > > > about it. > > > > > Funny my 13 year old can do it. Nice dodge. > > Noticed that you didn't post this weekend. No internet access in jail? He probably has a life, try it sometime, it's rather enjoyable. Tex       Date: 11 Sep 2006 09:17:59 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! MnMikew wrote: > "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1157865222.861299.135030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and > > have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is > > about it. > > > Funny my 13 year old can do it. Nice dodge. Noticed that you didn't post this weekend. No internet access in jail? -Greg         Date: 11 Sep 2006 11:57:20 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote in message news:1157991479.802975.160830@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > MnMikew wrote: >> "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:1157865222.861299.135030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and >> > have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is >> > about it. >> > >> Funny my 13 year old can do it. Nice dodge. > > Noticed that you didn't post this weekend. No internet access in jail? > None in the golf cart either.       Date: 11 Sep 2006 07:50:22 From: Mister Hand Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > > $5000 bucks says put up or shut up. I have three degrees. I can prove > it. Are you willing to back up your incessant claims that I am lying? > > Are you on or off. If you are on, we need to identify an impartial > 3rd party, I will scan the documents, and then we can let this 3rd > party say who gets the $5000 bucks. Those that know me well know I > have the bucks and do not back off a wager. It is piss money for me. > My consulting business bills more than that most weeks. Derek St! Derek St! DEREK ST!!       Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:38:32 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > : > : Chris Bellomy wrote: > :> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > :> : > :> : Chris Bellomy wrote: > :> :> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > :> :> : > :> :> : annika1980 wrote: > :> :> :> The Hammer wrote: > :> :> :> > Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the > :> :> :> > documents to a disinterested third party here. > :> :> :> > :> :> :> Hey, don't go draggin me into this! > :> :> : > :> :> : I would gladly scan the documents to you. I trust you would be > :> :> : impartial. You have no stake in all this. > :> :> > :> :> You could just scan them and post them on a web page. Not sure > :> :> who could mediate a bet but you could recover whatever honor > :> :> you feel may be lost. > :> : > :> : I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and > :> : have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is > :> : about it. > :> > :> Scan them, send them to me, I'll post them. I can't photoshop > :> them without you catching it, so that would be pointless. All > :> I'll do is post them and let $WHOEVER decide. > :> > :> chris at goodshow dot net > :> > :> -- > :> Chris Bellomy > :> C-List Charter Member > :> http://clist.org/ > : > : Chris, > : > : I got an email from someone that said that Knight wants me to show my > : hand without ante-ing up. This is well said. > : > : Until he ante's up, I will not show my hand. He made a statement that > : I am lying, but he is not willing to ante-up before I show my cards. > : In other works, the blowhard is afraid to back up allegations of lying > : with $$$. Let us not burden this group any more with this silliness. I > : am sure most are bored with it by now. I sure am to be honest about > : it. > : > : If you need to discuss further, email me at ericthehammer2003@yahoo.com > : and we can negotiate the terms of a wager. Without some bucks on the > : table, do not even waste my time. No bucks, I do not show my cards. > : Because without that incentive, I have no desire to dig through all my > : records and find all this crap. I have better things to do. My > : basement has over 20 boxes of stuff I have not been though in years. > : Somewhere in there is the documentation, but I have no incentive to go > : through it all, unless there is some money on the table. If that is > : not acceptible, I claim a win by default. > > Yeah, that's about exactly what I expected. > > -- > Chris Bellomy > C-List Charter Member > http://clist.org/ When Knight will ante up, I will show my cards. I know the hand I have. Why won't the coward ante up. Get on your crony network and ask him why he won't ante up. Maybe the other cronies can put some pressure on him to ante up. Why is he afraid to put up some bucks. The only reason I can think of is that he might end up with a bit of a hole in his pocket. The Hammer         Date: 11 Sep 2006 00:04:31 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157931512.248505.305690@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... > > Get on your crony network and ask him why he won't ante up. Why don't you tell your "mole" to ask him?         Date: 10 Sep 2006 18:40:55 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 10 Sep 2006 16:38:32 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > >When Knight will ante up, I will show my cards. I know the hand I >have. Why won't the coward ante up. > >Get on your crony network and ask him why he won't ante up. Maybe the >other cronies can put some pressure on him to ante up. Why is he >afraid to put up some bucks. The only reason I can think of is that he >might end up with a bit of a hole in his pocket. > You have a bet with bigoldcat. I wouldn't trust you for anything. Period. ___, \o       Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:27:17 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > : > : Chris Bellomy wrote: > :> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > :> : > :> : annika1980 wrote: > :> :> The Hammer wrote: > :> :> > Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the > :> :> > documents to a disinterested third party here. > :> :> > :> :> Hey, don't go draggin me into this! > :> : > :> : I would gladly scan the documents to you. I trust you would be > :> : impartial. You have no stake in all this. > :> > :> You could just scan them and post them on a web page. Not sure > :> who could mediate a bet but you could recover whatever honor > :> you feel may be lost. > : > : I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and > : have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is > : about it. > > Scan them, send them to me, I'll post them. I can't photoshop > them without you catching it, so that would be pointless. All > I'll do is post them and let $WHOEVER decide. > > chris at goodshow dot net > > -- > Chris Bellomy > C-List Charter Member > http://clist.org/ Chris, I got an email from someone that said that Knight wants me to show my hand without ante-ing up. This is well said. Until he ante's up, I will not show my hand. He made a statement that I am lying, but he is not willing to ante-up before I show my cards. In other works, the blowhard is afraid to back up allegations of lying with $$$. Let us not burden this group any more with this silliness. I am sure most are bored with it by now. I sure am to be honest about it. If you need to discuss further, email me at ericthehammer2003@yahoo.com and we can negotiate the terms of a wager. Without some bucks on the table, do not even waste my time. No bucks, I do not show my cards. Because without that incentive, I have no desire to dig through all my records and find all this crap. I have better things to do. My basement has over 20 boxes of stuff I have not been though in years. Somewhere in there is the documentation, but I have no incentive to go through it all, unless there is some money on the table. If that is not acceptible, I claim a win by default. Regards, The Hammer         Date: 10 Sep 2006 23:34:36 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: : : Chris Bellomy wrote: : > The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: : > : : > : Chris Bellomy wrote: : > :> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: : > :> : : > :> : annika1980 wrote: : > :> :> The Hammer wrote: : > :> :> > Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the : > :> :> > documents to a disinterested third party here. : > :> :> : > :> :> Hey, don't go draggin me into this! : > :> : : > :> : I would gladly scan the documents to you. I trust you would be : > :> : impartial. You have no stake in all this. : > :> : > :> You could just scan them and post them on a web page. Not sure : > :> who could mediate a bet but you could recover whatever honor : > :> you feel may be lost. : > : : > : I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and : > : have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is : > : about it. : > : > Scan them, send them to me, I'll post them. I can't photoshop : > them without you catching it, so that would be pointless. All : > I'll do is post them and let $WHOEVER decide. : > : > chris at goodshow dot net : > : > -- : > Chris Bellomy : > C-List Charter Member : > http://clist.org/ : : Chris, : : I got an email from someone that said that Knight wants me to show my : hand without ante-ing up. This is well said. : : Until he ante's up, I will not show my hand. He made a statement that : I am lying, but he is not willing to ante-up before I show my cards. : In other works, the blowhard is afraid to back up allegations of lying : with $$$. Let us not burden this group any more with this silliness. I : am sure most are bored with it by now. I sure am to be honest about : it. : : If you need to discuss further, email me at ericthehammer2003@yahoo.com : and we can negotiate the terms of a wager. Without some bucks on the : table, do not even waste my time. No bucks, I do not show my cards. : Because without that incentive, I have no desire to dig through all my : records and find all this crap. I have better things to do. My : basement has over 20 boxes of stuff I have not been though in years. : Somewhere in there is the documentation, but I have no incentive to go : through it all, unless there is some money on the table. If that is : not acceptible, I claim a win by default. Yeah, that's about exactly what I expected. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/       Date: From: Subject:       Date: 10 Sep 2006 10:26:04 From: Ben. Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris S wrote: > Isn't it interesting that the only thing Ben has to offer to any > conversation is his personal brand of sarcasm? Wonder if it plays golf. It does play golf - pretty well, it might add! It doesn't hit a three wood 300 yards and it is not disappointed with a round of 80, but it's a pretty muni good stick. IOW, it is honest about it's ability unlike the vast majority of RSG. Oh, and it is also offering this thread and the OP the exact measure of respect they deserve, Chrissy: nada.       Date: 10 Sep 2006 06:55:28 From: Ben. Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > > No, no one thinks that, Eric...as far as you know. Lots of people use > > a period after an exclamtion point. Even the "clubuilders" among > > us!.!.!. > > Hey Ben, > > It is spelled "exclamation" point. just thought I would volunteer > that little tidbit. OK, first step is learning how to spell it. Check. Now learn how to _USE_ it! <- see, no additional punctuation necessary. Good luck and "God bless".       Date: 09 Sep 2006 22:13:42 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Chris Bellomy wrote: > The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > : > : annika1980 wrote: > :> The Hammer wrote: > :> > Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the > :> > documents to a disinterested third party here. > :> > :> Hey, don't go draggin me into this! > : > : I would gladly scan the documents to you. I trust you would be > : impartial. You have no stake in all this. > > You could just scan them and post them on a web page. Not sure > who could mediate a bet but you could recover whatever honor > you feel may be lost. > > -- > Chris Bellomy > C-List Charter Member > http://clist.org/ I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is about it. What is so hard about scanning a document to an impartial party to validate certain documents. Or better yet, I can personally visit Bill-O who lives nearby and hand the friggin documents to him. He could verify their authenticity and post accordingly. Bill is an up and up guy. He would not lie for me, it would be beyond comprehension, the guy is a class act. Bottom line, this is a simple bet to prove or disprove. All I have to do is scan or present the documents to someone. The fact that Bobby has declined the wager means there is some element of doubt that he was wrong when he accused me of being a liar and calling my degrees mail order. Bob has nothing to worry about, if he fears i would not pay off. I will gladly pay off. But that is not even conceivable, because I have the proof. If Bobby thinks otherwsie, he should just accept the bet and let's have someone examine the evidence. The Hammer         Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:33:35 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157865222.861299.135030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and > have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is > about it. > Funny my 13 year old can do it. Nice dodge.           Date: 12 Sep 2006 01:40:11 From: ynaught Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote in message news:4mldugF6j43oU1@individual.net... > > "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1157865222.861299.135030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> >> I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and >> have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is >> about it. >> > Funny my 13 year old can do it. Nice dodge. Damn you, it's not a dodge! Eric really is that stupid.         Date: 10 Sep 2006 20:36:28 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > On 10 Sep 2006 20:14:25 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > >The bet will not happen because the incontinant old turd will not ante > >up. He and his cronies are using spin and diversion to weasel out. I > >am in. He pulled out. > > There is no bet because you're a reneging, snake in the grass,asshole > who lies with no conscience. You have no integrity, nor common > sense. All (except for your butt buddy Rob, who is ster than you > and uses x-archive) who have seen your first statement, and the > following crawfishing, can see that you're absolute filth. > > Screw off combover. You haven't a scintilla of decency, or you'd just > say which of those mail-order colleges gave you a degree. Trust you > to scan something without your doctoring it? Only a fool would do > that. > > You say that you're well educated? Most of those that I know who are > such have more than a high school command of the English language. > But, I guess emptying bed pans doesn't require much in that respect. > > You proved yourself a liar with those statements in December, but > your inheirent stupidity tries to cover them up. Only a mother could > love you....oops. Maybe not. > > You're outed and know it. > bk Be careful old turkey. won't take much to have a heart attack with your fragile state. Bet is off it seems. I win by default. I was really looking forward to collecting that check and going somewhere. Too bad i guess. The Hammer           Date: 10 Sep 2006 22:46:59 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 10 Sep 2006 20:36:28 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: >Be careful old turkey. won't take much to have a heart attack with >your fragile state. I'm fine. If you think I'm upset you'r wrong, just amused. However, I make it a policy to have nothing to do with trailer trash. You once (or was is five times) said that you were leaving RSG. As far as I'm concerned you have. ___, \o         Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:34:43 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: : : Chris Bellomy wrote: : > The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: : > : : > : annika1980 wrote: : > :> The Hammer wrote: : > :> > Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the : > :> > documents to a disinterested third party here. : > :> : > :> Hey, don't go draggin me into this! : > : : > : I would gladly scan the documents to you. I trust you would be : > : impartial. You have no stake in all this. : > : > You could just scan them and post them on a web page. Not sure : > who could mediate a bet but you could recover whatever honor : > you feel may be lost. : : I don't know how to do that. I am essentially computer illiterate and : have no shame admitting that. I can scan, send emails, and that is : about it. Scan them, send them to me, I'll post them. I can't photoshop them without you catching it, so that would be pointless. All I'll do is post them and let $WHOEVER decide. chris at goodshow dot net -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/       Date: 09 Sep 2006 21:44:53 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Ben. wrote: > The Hammer wrote: > > > In fact, if anyone wants to believe I am an idiot, that is OK too!. > > No, no one thinks that, Eric...as far as you know. Lots of people use > a period after an exclamtion point. Even the "clubuilders" among > us!.!.!. Hey Ben, It is spelled "exclamation" point. just thought I would volunteer that little tidbit. best wishes and God bless the hammer         Date: 10 Sep 2006 07:51:43 From: Chris S Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157863493.262567.221580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Ben. wrote: >> The Hammer wrote: >> >> > In fact, if anyone wants to believe I am an idiot, that is OK too!. >> >> No, no one thinks that, Eric...as far as you know. Lots of people use >> a period after an exclamtion point. Even the "clubuilders" among >> us!.!.!. > > Hey Ben, > > It is spelled "exclamation" point. just thought I would volunteer > that little tidbit. > > best wishes and God bless > > the hammer Isn't it interesting that the only thing Ben has to offer to any conversation is his personal brand of sarcasm? Wonder if it plays golf. >       Date: 09 Sep 2006 21:39:31 From: Ben. Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > In fact, if anyone wants to believe I am an idiot, that is OK too!. No, no one thinks that, Eric...as far as you know. Lots of people use a period after an exclamtion point. Even the "clubuilders" among us!.!.!.       Date: 09 Sep 2006 21:24:53 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! annika1980 wrote: > The Hammer wrote: > > Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the > > documents to a disinterested third party here. > > Hey, don't go draggin me into this! I would gladly scan the documents to you. I trust you would be impartial. You have no stake in all this. Sadly, there will be no scanning. Bet's are off, as per Bobby.. The old guy says I need to prove I have three degrees, I can prove that easily. My business degrees are clearly ked Summa Cum Laude. It is clearly ked. I graduated 2nd in my nursing class, Summa Cum Laude.. I could also prove that easily, but it would take some time for me to get a letter from the school The old guy makes statement that these are mail order schools. I can disprove that easily. They are fully accredited schools, both with excellent reputations in their respective areas. Admittedly not Harvard or Yale, but decent schools. An idiot I am not, even though Bobby would like to make you think I am. In fact, if anyone wants to believe I am an idiot, that is OK too!. Amazing the big mouths some have, until the time comes to cough up a few bucks. I win the bet by default. Bobby had the chance to prove me a liar, sadly he missed a golden opportunity. I thought he enjoyed a gamble. Why not take it! The Hammer         Date: 10 Sep 2006 04:57:52 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: : : annika1980 wrote: : > The Hammer wrote: : > > Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the : > > documents to a disinterested third party here. : > : > Hey, don't go draggin me into this! : : I would gladly scan the documents to you. I trust you would be : impartial. You have no stake in all this. You could just scan them and post them on a web page. Not sure who could mediate a bet but you could recover whatever honor you feel may be lost. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/       Date: 09 Sep 2006 21:05:53 From: annika1980 Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the > documents to a disinterested third party here. Hey, don't go draggin me into this!       Date: 09 Sep 2006 20:03:43 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > On 9 Sep 2006 19:22:38 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > >Bobby Knight wrote: > > >> > >> Oh...there's always the probability that all of this is another lie. > >> Wanna tell us again about your summa cum laude degrees from those mail > >> order universities? > > >> bk > > > >Go change you diaper old friggin man. I have nothing more to say to > >you, I don't want to instigate a heart attack. > > > >The Hammer > > > Also a lie. You'll keep replying. Three degrees with honors my > ass!! Plus you're ashamed of where you got them, because you won't > say. Why? Because you know it can't be verified. > > You should hope to be in my shape when, and if, you reach my present > age. You're the one who admitted crapping in your pants. That never > happened to me. > > The Hammer? LOL. The toilet plunger is more like it. > ___, > \o >         Date: 10 Sep 2006 20:28:15 From: annika1980 Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > > I would gladly meet you and show you these documents. Let's do it and > maybe get a round of golf in. Aw, we don't have to do that. I trust you. Just send me the money. > > And for your trouble, I say you get a 10% commision on the $5000. So, > the winner gets $4500 instead. So are you in Anni? Yeah, $500 works for me.         Date: 10 Sep 2006 20:14:25 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! annika1980 wrote: > The Hammer wrote: > > > You have a bet with bigoldcat. I wouldn't trust you for anything. > > > Period. > > > > I do not know who bigoldcat is or how to reach him. If he will email > > me with specifics about who he is and how I can be assured that I will > > be paid off when I provide the "Pudding" , I will gladly take him on. > > > > I think the easiest way to settle this is for all parties interested in > the bet to send me their $5000. I'll hold it until a winner is decided > and then forward the amount on to the winner. Surely there must be a > Western Union station on Maui. The bet will not happen because the incontinant old turd will not ante up. He and his cronies are using spin and diversion to weasel out. I am in. He pulled out. I would gladly meet you and show you these documents. Let's do it and maybe get a round of golf in. The only problem with that is that diaper boy might say you were in collusion with me. I don't think you would take sides on something like this, but he, in his utter paranoia, would think it. And for your trouble, I say you get a 10% commision on the $5000. So, the winner gets $4500 instead. So are you in Anni? Or will the nursing home resident find something wrong with this scenario? Frankly, I am bored of this whole thread. So, I promise no more posts on this. you knowhow to reach me, as do the other parties involved. No more talk from me. I will walk the walk, Bobby just talks the talk. So old man , are you in or out. ONE MORE TIME! Last chance, I promise! The Hammer           Date: 10 Sep 2006 22:32:34 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 10 Sep 2006 20:14:25 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: >The bet will not happen because the incontinant old turd will not ante >up. He and his cronies are using spin and diversion to weasel out. I >am in. He pulled out. There is no bet because you're a reneging, snake in the grass,asshole who lies with no conscience. You have no integrity, nor common sense. All (except for your butt buddy Rob, who is ster than you and uses x-archive) who have seen your first statement, and the following crawfishing, can see that you're absolute filth. Screw off combover. You haven't a scintilla of decency, or you'd just say which of those mail-order colleges gave you a degree. Trust you to scan something without your doctoring it? Only a fool would do that. You say that you're well educated? Most of those that I know who are such have more than a high school command of the English language. But, I guess emptying bed pans doesn't require much in that respect. You proved yourself a liar with those statements in December, but your inheirent stupidity tries to cover them up. Only a mother could love you....oops. Maybe not. You're outed and know it. bk         Date: 10 Sep 2006 19:59:56 From: annika1980 Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > > You have a bet with bigoldcat. I wouldn't trust you for anything. > > Period. > > I do not know who bigoldcat is or how to reach him. If he will email > me with specifics about who he is and how I can be assured that I will > be paid off when I provide the "Pudding" , I will gladly take him on. > I think the easiest way to settle this is for all parties interested in the bet to send me their $5000. I'll hold it until a winner is decided and then forward the amount on to the winner. Surely there must be a Western Union station on Maui.         Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:47:18 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > On 10 Sep 2006 16:38:32 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > >When Knight will ante up, I will show my cards. I know the hand I > >have. Why won't the coward ante up. > > > >Get on your crony network and ask him why he won't ante up. Maybe the > >other cronies can put some pressure on him to ante up. Why is he > >afraid to put up some bucks. The only reason I can think of is that he > >might end up with a bit of a hole in his pocket. > > > You have a bet with bigoldcat. I wouldn't trust you for anything. > Period. > ___, > \o >           Date: 11 Sep 2006 00:06:27 From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157932038.867897.193570@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > You are paranoid. you don't trust scanned documents, implying that I > would doctor them somehow. Uh, Eric - what is the subject line of this thread?         Date: 09 Sep 2006 22:19:32 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 9 Sep 2006 20:03:43 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: >OK you old shitstain. I have a transcript that shows two degrees with >summa cum laude. I have a third degree that was also summa cum laude, >but there is no such notation on it. I could get verification by mail, >but that would take some time and frankly I am not going to bother. First of all, you lied again....you answered. > >Are you willing to put up some money on this. I will gladly scan the >documents to a disinterested third party here. Showing them two >degrees, a BS of Commerce in Industrial Relations and Management and a >BS of Commerce in Organizational Behavior which is essentially >psychology with a business spin. I have a third degree in Nursing, an >Associates, which was also Summa Cum Laude, in fact second in the >class, but this is not denoted on the degree. So all I can provide is >my word on that. These are not as you relate, in your normal asshole >fashion, mail order degrees. They are from accredited colleges. I'm willing to put money on your original statement. You said that you had three degrees, all cum laude. You've already backed down from that. You lied. Period. >I am highly educated, and proud of my educational accomplishments. How can you be highly educated and not be able to spell? :-) Don't challenge that, or I'll get Alan to whip up some Google goodies for you. > > I have three degrees. I can prove it. Are you willing to back up your incessant claims that I am lying? As I said. I have your original statement. You can't back it up. It was a lie. > >Are we on or off old man? > You're off toilet plunger. ...but you weren't going to ever respond to me again....and you were going to leave forever. Pitiful. ___, \o   Date: 09 Sep 2006 17:33:50 From: Chris Bellomy Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > Dene is not a Cumwad. You can hump his leg all you want, but maybe you should go find a room first. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/     Date: 09 Sep 2006 19:22:38 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > >From:The Hammer - view profile > >Date:Mon, Dec 27 2004 9:36 pm > >Email: "The Hammer" <ericthehammer2...@yahoo.com> > >Groups: rec.sport.golf > > > >A large crowd met the night before on 12/26 at Cinco De Mayo restaurant in > >Birmingham pre-tournament. We indulged some of the best Mexican food and > >garitas known to the great redneck state of Alabama. Conversation > >centered around RSG. We discussed the continued spamming from our friend of > >Wisconsin. We discussed how each of us at one time or another have been the > >targets of Bobby Knight's unmerciful and malicious attacks. We discussed > >how Colley Allen is fixated on Google searches and goes back five years to > >prove a point when most of us can't remember yesterday. We talked about > >Randy's Brown's conspiracy to make RSG events by invitation only. We talked > >about George Hibbard's "Secret of the Thumb". We talked about my combover. > >We talked about the longstanding efforts to discredit my mental status and > >drive me out of RSG. We talked aboout Dene pissing rocks. We talked > >about the future of RSG and the formation of a new order in RSG. In short, > >it was a very meaningful and thought provoking working discussion. Plans > >were laid to once and for all drive the scoundrels out of RSG and make it a > >place where golf can be discussed, without fear or retribution. > > > > Gossiping old women!!! > > I recall that you charged the c-list with "taking over" RSG. Looks > to me like your plans to drive posters out of RSG is an admission > admission of such a cabal. > > How did that work out? > > Oh...there's always the probability that all of this is another lie. > Wanna tell us again about your summa cum laude degrees from those mail > order universities? > ___, > \o >       Date: 09 Sep 2006 21:33:06 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 9 Sep 2006 19:22:38 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > >Bobby Knight wrote: >> >> Oh...there's always the probability that all of this is another lie. >> Wanna tell us again about your summa cum laude degrees from those mail >> order universities? >> bk > >Go change you diaper old friggin man. I have nothing more to say to >you, I don't want to instigate a heart attack. > >The Hammer Also a lie. You'll keep replying. Three degrees with honors my ass!! Plus you're ashamed of where you got them, because you won't say. Why? Because you know it can't be verified. You should hope to be in my shape when, and if, you reach my present age. You're the one who admitted crapping in your pants. That never happened to me. The Hammer? LOL. The toilet plunger is more like it. ___, \o   Date: 09 Sep 2006 09:52:41 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bear wrote: > Dude I've subscribed to RSG for at least 8 years so I know all about > the good and bad here. I know how to find web based discussion groups > just fine but thanks for posting urls to groups most know about. > What RSG has over all the web based sites is that it is unmoderated > thus allows any wingnut to post... All true....so what are you protesting about? -Greg     Date: 09 Sep 2006 22:34:14 From: Bear Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 9 Sep 2006 09:52:41 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote: > >Bear wrote: > >> Dude I've subscribed to RSG for at least 8 years so I know all about >> the good and bad here. I know how to find web based discussion groups >> just fine but thanks for posting urls to groups most know about. >> What RSG has over all the web based sites is that it is unmoderated >> thus allows any wingnut to post... > >All true....so what are you protesting about? Not protesting about anything. I actually enjoy reading posts by you and Hummer. I laugh a lot at the crap that spews forth from you and your fellow wingnuts. Hilarious stuff, someone should collect all your posts about the TITPB and publish them as a book. I'm sure it would sell and I bet most would think it is fiction 'cause nobody could really be as stupid as the main character.   Date: 09 Sep 2006 09:44:48 From: sjh Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Big_Fan wrote: > Bobby Knight wrote: > > On 8 Sep 2006 21:43:35 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > So you lied. What's new? > > -- > > ___, > > \o > >   Date: 09 Sep 2006 15:15:25 From: ynaught Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157777015.805004.241700@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > >And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you don't. Where did you hear that?     Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:14:34 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "ynaught" <nospam@nospam.net > wrote in message news:hUAMg.16381$o42.9161@tornado.texas.rr.com... > "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1157777015.805004.241700@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >> >>And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you don't. > > Where did you hear that? From one of the many voices he hears daily.   Date: 09 Sep 2006 07:59:56 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bear wrote: > On 9 Sep 2006 07:32:21 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > >Bear wrote: > >> On 9 Sep 2006 01:54:58 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Thank you Eric. You're exaggerating my attributes but nonethless I'm > >> >grateful for the kind words and most of all, your friendship. > >> > > >> >To the reader.... Like all of us, Eric has his good and bad side. The > >> >thing I find most endearing about him is his authenticity and courage > >> >in being who he is without pretention....the goofy, generous, > >> >gregarious, joizy jewish nurse, complete with a hillbilly wife who is > >> >the perfect ying to Eric's yang. > >> > > >> >(Uh oh....I just had a disturbing visualization). <water and fresh air > >> >urgently required> > >> > > >> >I'm back. Anyway....with Eric, you know exactly where you stand with > >> >him. There is no sneaky blindsiding with him, which is precisely why I > >> >trust him. > >> > > >> >He calls it like he sees it and I love the guy for it. > >> > >> You two crack me up. You are fucking hilarious. > >> > >> I sit here in the early morning reading the crap (well not all of it > >> but enough) and I gotta say I wonder what kind of person would spend > >> so much time and energy trying to tell people that you don't care. > >> If your life is so full and meaningful and RSG is just a gnat on your > >> ass why do you protest so much? > >> > > > >If you in fact have found entertainment in all this as you purport, I > >would say that is a good thing. Because you can't tell me you truly > >come here for serious discussion about golf. If you want serious > >discussion about golf, may I direct you to the following: > > > >www.4gea.com > >www.freegolfinfo.com > >www.lynnblakegolf.com > >www.golf-tuition-online.com > >www.brianmanzella.com > > > >These groups will give you a wealth of information. You can actually > >talk to Lynn Blake, a world reknown Golf Machine instructor, on his > >forum. On GEA, you can talk with Dana Upshaw, a world reknown club > >builder. That sure beats talking to some drooling clubuilding retard > >here who probably gets more glue on the floor than he does on the > >clubs > > You are pathetic. > > > >So yes, what you read here is laughable. And what you will continue to > >read here for many years will continue to be laughable. Because we all > >know it is really not about golf. Golf is just a pretext for some to > >come here. And this pretext has created a very close family of > >cronies. And the only thing that is a constant here is the cronies > >protecting their turf against all who threaten it. They take it very > >seriously, while most of us douldn't care less about having RSG serving > >as some kind of extended family or support system. Yea, it sounds > >comical and ridiculous and it is. That is why some of us still come > >here. > > No you are really, really pathetic. > > > >l admit there is some occasional good info here and actually quite a > >few fine folks. But I doubt most would say with any degree of honesty > >that they come here for serious or consistently accurate or reliable > >golf discussion. I get my serious golf discussion at the course. With > >real people in the flesh. This on-line stuff is a poor substitute, but > >for some it is almost their life. Good for them. Enjoy! > > Dude I've subscribed to RSG for at least 8 years so I know all about > the good and bad here. I know how to find web based discussion groups > just fine but thanks for posting urls to groups most know about. > What RSG has over all the web based sites is that it is unmoderated > thus allows any wingnut to post... Thank you for telling me I am pathetic. you are not the first, you won't be the last. The Hammer     Date: 09 Sep 2006 15:02:40 From: Bear Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 9 Sep 2006 07:59:56 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > >Bear wrote: >> On 9 Sep 2006 07:32:21 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >Bear wrote: >> >> On 9 Sep 2006 01:54:58 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Thank you Eric. You're exaggerating my attributes but nonethless I'm >> >> >grateful for the kind words and most of all, your friendship. >> >> > >> >> >To the reader.... Like all of us, Eric has his good and bad side. The >> >> >thing I find most endearing about him is his authenticity and courage >> >> >in being who he is without pretention....the goofy, generous, >> >> >gregarious, joizy jewish nurse, complete with a hillbilly wife who is >> >> >the perfect ying to Eric's yang. >> >> > >> >> >(Uh oh....I just had a disturbing visualization). <water and fresh air >> >> >urgently required> >> >> > >> >> >I'm back. Anyway....with Eric, you know exactly where you stand with >> >> >him. There is no sneaky blindsiding with him, which is precisely why I >> >> >trust him. >> >> > >> >> >He calls it like he sees it and I love the guy for it. >> >> >> >> You two crack me up. You are fucking hilarious. >> >> >> >> I sit here in the early morning reading the crap (well not all of it >> >> but enough) and I gotta say I wonder what kind of person would spend >> >> so much time and energy trying to tell people that you don't care. >> >> If your life is so full and meaningful and RSG is just a gnat on your >> >> ass why do you protest so much? >> >> >> > >> >If you in fact have found entertainment in all this as you purport, I >> >would say that is a good thing. Because you can't tell me you truly >> >come here for serious discussion about golf. If you want serious >> >discussion about golf, may I direct you to the following: >> > >> >www.4gea.com >> >www.freegolfinfo.com >> >www.lynnblakegolf.com >> >www.golf-tuition-online.com >> >www.brianmanzella.com >> > >> >These groups will give you a wealth of information. You can actually >> >talk to Lynn Blake, a world reknown Golf Machine instructor, on his >> >forum. On GEA, you can talk with Dana Upshaw, a world reknown club >> >builder. That sure beats talking to some drooling clubuilding retard >> >here who probably gets more glue on the floor than he does on the >> >clubs >> >> You are pathetic. >> > >> >So yes, what you read here is laughable. And what you will continue to >> >read here for many years will continue to be laughable. Because we all >> >know it is really not about golf. Golf is just a pretext for some to >> >come here. And this pretext has created a very close family of >> >cronies. And the only thing that is a constant here is the cronies >> >protecting their turf against all who threaten it. They take it very >> >seriously, while most of us douldn't care less about having RSG serving >> >as some kind of extended family or support system. Yea, it sounds >> >comical and ridiculous and it is. That is why some of us still come >> >here. >> >> No you are really, really pathetic. >> > >> >l admit there is some occasional good info here and actually quite a >> >few fine folks. But I doubt most would say with any degree of honesty >> >that they come here for serious or consistently accurate or reliable >> >golf discussion. I get my serious golf discussion at the course. With >> >real people in the flesh. This on-line stuff is a poor substitute, but >> >for some it is almost their life. Good for them. Enjoy! >> >> Dude I've subscribed to RSG for at least 8 years so I know all about >> the good and bad here. I know how to find web based discussion groups >> just fine but thanks for posting urls to groups most know about. >> What RSG has over all the web based sites is that it is unmoderated >> thus allows any wingnut to post... > >Thank you for telling me I am pathetic. you are not the first, you >won't be the last. > Of that I have no doubt.   Date: 09 Sep 2006 07:43:18 From: Ben. Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > That sure beats talking to some drooling clubuilding retard "clubuilding"??? What?   Date: 09 Sep 2006 07:41:21 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > On 8 Sep 2006 21:43:35 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > So you lied. What's new? > -- > ___, > \o >     Date: 09 Sep 2006 15:04:25 From: Bear Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 9 Sep 2006 07:41:21 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > >Bobby Knight wrote: >> On 8 Sep 2006 21:43:35 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> So you lied. What's new? >> -- >> ___, >> \o >>   Date: 09 Sep 2006 16:40:33 From: Tranny Subject: Re: OK, I lied! The Hammer wrote: > Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. A truly > decent fellow, who I am very proud to call my friend. And a truly > decent fellow who others are very proud to call their friend. > The greatest validiation one can receive of being a decent human being > is being flamed by the likes of those that have slandered and attacked > him from December 2006, on. When someone like Tex, Knight, or that > Mike prick from Minn and the like flame you, chances are you are a > pretty good person. Dene did absolutely nothing to deserve this > disgraceful treatment. Let RSG NW be recognized as the first event > that excluded someone just because he wasn't liked by some. I never > knew that these events were about popularity. You come, enjoy, and if > someone is there you don't like you just ignore him. But no, the > crybabies of RSG NW petitioned and pissed and moaned to the organizer > and Dene was excluded. No loss for Dene, a big loss for the event. > > This troll validated something. The lack of response was louder than > if there had been 5000 responses. That is because to some of the > cronies, it was an obvious troll. And they quickly wrote among > themselves to enforce some type of don't feed decree. These gossiping > old ladies communicate among themselves faster than the speed of light. > What is equally amazing is that almost as soon as I posted this troll, > Dene and I both got emails from a few of you anxiously wanting to know > the real scoop. As if you had nothing better to worry about in your > lives. Very sad, yet utterly amusing at the same time. > > Dene has received more crap from some of you in the last year than most > will ever receive in three lifetimes. I can guarantee you he couldn't > care less. It just makes his protagonists look like bigger assholes > with each post. He gets crap only because he is not a follower, a > drinker, and someone who does not need constant validation from a > network of cronies across the country. He is a winner, I think some of > you are jealous of that. A wonderful wife who I am sure will be his > soulmate for life.. The guy makes more in a week than some of you make > in a year. And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you > don't. Now that is a real joke!! He travels when he wants to, has a > beautful new house, a beautiful boat, and some wonderful kids. Yea, if > Dene is such the bad person some of you says he is, he seems to be > doing pretty good to me. And in fact, better than me and better than > most of you. And he plays golf, in fact a lot. It is interesting that > some of the cronies who have posted against him don't even play golf. > Yet, hang around a golf group. Unbelievable. > > I am really getting sick of all the Dene bashing. Those of you that > don't even know him have jumped on the bandwagon, just to be part of > some clique. Well, I am not part of a clique, don't want to be, and > couldn't give a crap what any clique thinks about me. The bottom line > is the guy is fucking gold, I am proud to be his friend. There are > others here that are proud to be his friend. That is all that matters. > The cronies who seek to antagonize him are just fucking noise. Those > of us that know the guy know a whole lot better. > > The Hammer What kind of twat are you? (rhetorically question) Tran   Date: 09 Sep 2006 07:32:21 From: The Hammer Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bear wrote: > On 9 Sep 2006 01:54:58 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: > > >Thank you Eric. You're exaggerating my attributes but nonethless I'm > >grateful for the kind words and most of all, your friendship. > > > >To the reader.... Like all of us, Eric has his good and bad side. The > >thing I find most endearing about him is his authenticity and courage > >in being who he is without pretention....the goofy, generous, > >gregarious, joizy jewish nurse, complete with a hillbilly wife who is > >the perfect ying to Eric's yang. > > > >(Uh oh....I just had a disturbing visualization). <water and fresh air > >urgently required> > > > >I'm back. Anyway....with Eric, you know exactly where you stand with > >him. There is no sneaky blindsiding with him, which is precisely why I > >trust him. > > > >He calls it like he sees it and I love the guy for it. > > You two crack me up. You are fucking hilarious. > > I sit here in the early morning reading the crap (well not all of it > but enough) and I gotta say I wonder what kind of person would spend > so much time and energy trying to tell people that you don't care. > If your life is so full and meaningful and RSG is just a gnat on your > ass why do you protest so much? > If you in fact have found entertainment in all this as you purport, I would say that is a good thing. Because you can't tell me you truly come here for serious discussion about golf. If you want serious discussion about golf, may I direct you to the following: www.4gea.com www.freegolfinfo.com www.lynnblakegolf.com www.golf-tuition-online.com www.brianmanzella.com These groups will give you a wealth of information. You can actually talk to Lynn Blake, a world reknown Golf Machine instructor, on his forum. On GEA, you can talk with Dana Upshaw, a world reknown club builder. That sure beats talking to some drooling clubuilding retard here who probably gets more glue on the floor than he does on the clubs So yes, what you read here is laughable. And what you will continue to read here for many years will continue to be laughable. Because we all know it is really not about golf. Golf is just a pretext for some to come here. And this pretext has created a very close family of cronies. And the only thing that is a constant here is the cronies protecting their turf against all who threaten it. They take it very seriously, while most of us douldn't care less about having RSG serving as some kind of extended family or support system. Yea, it sounds comical and ridiculous and it is. That is why some of us still come here. l admit there is some occasional good info here and actually quite a few fine folks. But I doubt most would say with any degree of honesty that they come here for serious or consistently accurate or reliable golf discussion. I get my serious golf discussion at the course. With real people in the flesh. This on-line stuff is a poor substitute, but for some it is almost their life. Good for them. Enjoy! The Hammer     Date: 11 Sep 2006 10:11:17 From: MnMikew Subject: Re: OK, I lied! "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157812341.249656.150550@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > That sure beats talking to some drooling clubuilding retard here who > >probably gets more glue on the floor than he does on the clubs > So you build clubs now?     Date: 09 Sep 2006 14:49:18 From: Bear Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 9 Sep 2006 07:32:21 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: > >Bear wrote: >> On 9 Sep 2006 01:54:58 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >Thank you Eric. You're exaggerating my attributes but nonethless I'm >> >grateful for the kind words and most of all, your friendship. >> > >> >To the reader.... Like all of us, Eric has his good and bad side. The >> >thing I find most endearing about him is his authenticity and courage >> >in being who he is without pretention....the goofy, generous, >> >gregarious, joizy jewish nurse, complete with a hillbilly wife who is >> >the perfect ying to Eric's yang. >> > >> >(Uh oh....I just had a disturbing visualization). <water and fresh air >> >urgently required> >> > >> >I'm back. Anyway....with Eric, you know exactly where you stand with >> >him. There is no sneaky blindsiding with him, which is precisely why I >> >trust him. >> > >> >He calls it like he sees it and I love the guy for it. >> >> You two crack me up. You are fucking hilarious. >> >> I sit here in the early morning reading the crap (well not all of it >> but enough) and I gotta say I wonder what kind of person would spend >> so much time and energy trying to tell people that you don't care. >> If your life is so full and meaningful and RSG is just a gnat on your >> ass why do you protest so much? >> > >If you in fact have found entertainment in all this as you purport, I >would say that is a good thing. Because you can't tell me you truly >come here for serious discussion about golf. If you want serious >discussion about golf, may I direct you to the following: > >www.4gea.com >www.freegolfinfo.com >www.lynnblakegolf.com >www.golf-tuition-online.com >www.brianmanzella.com > >These groups will give you a wealth of information. You can actually >talk to Lynn Blake, a world reknown Golf Machine instructor, on his >forum. On GEA, you can talk with Dana Upshaw, a world reknown club >builder. That sure beats talking to some drooling clubuilding retard >here who probably gets more glue on the floor than he does on the >clubs You are pathetic. > >So yes, what you read here is laughable. And what you will continue to >read here for many years will continue to be laughable. Because we all >know it is really not about golf. Golf is just a pretext for some to >come here. And this pretext has created a very close family of >cronies. And the only thing that is a constant here is the cronies >protecting their turf against all who threaten it. They take it very >seriously, while most of us douldn't care less about having RSG serving >as some kind of extended family or support system. Yea, it sounds >comical and ridiculous and it is. That is why some of us still come >here. No you are really, really pathetic. > >l admit there is some occasional good info here and actually quite a >few fine folks. But I doubt most would say with any degree of honesty >that they come here for serious or consistently accurate or reliable >golf discussion. I get my serious golf discussion at the course. With >real people in the flesh. This on-line stuff is a poor substitute, but >for some it is almost their life. Good for them. Enjoy! Dude I've subscribed to RSG for at least 8 years so I know all about the good and bad here. I know how to find web based discussion groups just fine but thanks for posting urls to groups most know about. What RSG has over all the web based sites is that it is unmoderated thus allows any wingnut to post...   Date: 09 Sep 2006 05:36:01 From: Big_Fan Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Bobby Knight wrote: > On 8 Sep 2006 21:43:35 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > So you lied. What's new? > -- > ___, > \o >   Date: 09 Sep 2006 05:28:55 From: Bobby Knight Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 8 Sep 2006 21:43:35 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote: So you lied. What's new? -- ___, \o   Date: 09 Sep 2006 01:54:58 From: Dene Subject: Re: OK, I lied! Thank you Eric. You're exaggerating my attributes but nonethless I'm grateful for the kind words and most of all, your friendship. To the reader.... Like all of us, Eric has his good and bad side. The thing I find most endearing about him is his authenticity and courage in being who he is without pretention....the goofy, generous, gregarious, joizy jewish nurse, complete with a hillbilly wife who is the perfect ying to Eric's yang. (Uh oh....I just had a disturbing visualization). <water and fresh air urgently required > I'm back. Anyway....with Eric, you know exactly where you stand with him. There is no sneaky blindsiding with him, which is precisely why I trust him. He calls it like he sees it and I love the guy for it. -Greg The Hammer wrote: > Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. A truly > decent fellow, who I am very proud to call my friend. And a truly > decent fellow who others are very proud to call their friend. > The greatest validiation one can receive of being a decent human being > is being flamed by the likes of those that have slandered and attacked > him from December 2006, on. When someone like Tex, Knight, or that > Mike prick from Minn and the like flame you, chances are you are a > pretty good person. Dene did absolutely nothing to deserve this > disgraceful treatment. Let RSG NW be recognized as the first event > that excluded someone just because he wasn't liked by some. I never > knew that these events were about popularity. You come, enjoy, and if > someone is there you don't like you just ignore him. But no, the > crybabies of RSG NW petitioned and pissed and moaned to the organizer > and Dene was excluded. No loss for Dene, a big loss for the event. > > This troll validated something. The lack of response was louder than > if there had been 5000 responses. That is because to some of the > cronies, it was an obvious troll. And they quickly wrote among > themselves to enforce some type of don't feed decree. These gossiping > old ladies communicate among themselves faster than the speed of light. > What is equally amazing is that almost as soon as I posted this troll, > Dene and I both got emails from a few of you anxiously wanting to know > the real scoop. As if you had nothing better to worry about in your > lives. Very sad, yet utterly amusing at the same time. > > Dene has received more crap from some of you in the last year than most > will ever receive in three lifetimes. I can guarantee you he couldn't > care less. It just makes his protagonists look like bigger assholes > with each post. He gets crap only because he is not a follower, a > drinker, and someone who does not need constant validation from a > network of cronies across the country. He is a winner, I think some of > you are jealous of that. A wonderful wife who I am sure will be his > soulmate for life.. The guy makes more in a week than some of you make > in a year. And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you > don't. Now that is a real joke!! He travels when he wants to, has a > beautful new house, a beautiful boat, and some wonderful kids. Yea, if > Dene is such the bad person some of you says he is, he seems to be > doing pretty good to me. And in fact, better than me and better than > most of you. And he plays golf, in fact a lot. It is interesting that > some of the cronies who have posted against him don't even play golf. > Yet, hang around a golf group. Unbelievable. > > I am really getting sick of all the Dene bashing. Those of you that > don't even know him have jumped on the bandwagon, just to be part of > some clique. Well, I am not part of a clique, don't want to be, and > couldn't give a crap what any clique thinks about me. The bottom line > is the guy is fucking gold, I am proud to be his friend. There are > others here that are proud to be his friend. That is all that matters. > The cronies who seek to antagonize him are just fucking noise. Those > of us that know the guy know a whole lot better. > > The Hammer     Date: 09 Sep 2006 14:04:59 From: Bear Subject: Re: OK, I lied! On 9 Sep 2006 01:54:58 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote: >Thank you Eric. You're exaggerating my attributes but nonethless I'm >grateful for the kind words and most of all, your friendship. > >To the reader.... Like all of us, Eric has his good and bad side. The >thing I find most endearing about him is his authenticity and courage >in being who he is without pretention....the goofy, generous, >gregarious, joizy jewish nurse, complete with a hillbilly wife who is >the perfect ying to Eric's yang. > >(Uh oh....I just had a disturbing visualization). <water and fresh air >urgently required> > >I'm back. Anyway....with Eric, you know exactly where you stand with >him. There is no sneaky blindsiding with him, which is precisely why I >trust him. > >He calls it like he sees it and I love the guy for it. You two crack me up. You are fucking hilarious. I sit here in the early morning reading the crap (well not all of it but enough) and I gotta say I wonder what kind of person would spend so much time and energy trying to tell people that you don't care. If your life is so full and meaningful and RSG is just a gnat on your ass why do you protest so much? > >-Greg > >The Hammer wrote: >> Dene is not a Cumwad. In fact, he is just the opposite. A truly >> decent fellow, who I am very proud to call my friend. And a truly >> decent fellow who others are very proud to call their friend. >> The greatest validiation one can receive of being a decent human being >> is being flamed by the likes of those that have slandered and attacked >> him from December 2006, on. When someone like Tex, Knight, or that >> Mike prick from Minn and the like flame you, chances are you are a >> pretty good person. Dene did absolutely nothing to deserve this >> disgraceful treatment. Let RSG NW be recognized as the first event >> that excluded someone just because he wasn't liked by some. I never >> knew that these events were about popularity. You come, enjoy, and if >> someone is there you don't like you just ignore him. But no, the >> crybabies of RSG NW petitioned and pissed and moaned to the organizer >> and Dene was excluded. No loss for Dene, a big loss for the event. >> >> This troll validated something. The lack of response was louder than >> if there had been 5000 responses. That is because to some of the >> cronies, it was an obvious troll. And they quickly wrote among >> themselves to enforce some type of don't feed decree. These gossiping >> old ladies communicate among themselves faster than the speed of light. >> What is equally amazing is that almost as soon as I posted this troll, >> Dene and I both got emails from a few of you anxiously wanting to know >> the real scoop. As if you had nothing better to worry about in your >> lives. Very sad, yet utterly amusing at the same time. >> >> Dene has received more crap from some of you in the last year than most >> will ever receive in three lifetimes. I can guarantee you he couldn't >> care less. It just makes his protagonists look like bigger assholes >> with each post. He gets crap only because he is not a follower, a >> drinker, and someone who does not need constant validation from a >> network of cronies across the country. He is a winner, I think some of >> you are jealous of that. A wonderful wife who I am sure will be his >> soulmate for life.. The guy makes more in a week than some of you make >> in a year. And he has health insurance, I have heard that some of you >> don't. Now that is a real joke!! He travels when he wants to, has a >> beautful new house, a beautiful boat, and some wonderful kids. Yea, if >> Dene is such the bad person some of you says he is, he seems to be >> doing pretty good to me. And in fact, better than me and better than >> most of you. And he plays golf, in fact a lot. It is interesting that >> some of the cronies who have posted against him don't even play golf. >> Yet, hang around a golf group. Unbelievable. >> >> I am really getting sick of all the Dene bashing. Those of you that >> don't even know him have jumped on the bandwagon, just to be part of >> some clique. Well, I am not part of a clique, don't want to be, and >> couldn't give a crap what any clique thinks about me. The bottom line >> is the guy is fucking gold, I am proud to be his friend. There are >> others here that are proud to be his friend. That is all that matters. >> The cronies who seek to antagonize him are just fucking noise. Those >> of us that know the guy know a whole lot better. >> >> The Hammer