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Date: 13 Apr 2007 07:46:47
From: annika1980
Subject: New Gig for Don Imus?
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Word is that Imus has signed on with Michael Richards to do
a new sitcom spinoff, called "KKKramer."
Chris Rock was recently asked by Bill Maher if he thought Michael
Richards was a racist. Rock said, "He yelled 'Nigger' in a crowded
theatre! What do you gotta do to be called a racist these days ....
shoot Medgar Evers?"
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Date: 17 Apr 2007 09:12:24
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 17, 2:15 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com >
wrote:
> "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1176774431.654687.272150@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Apr 16, 8:36 pm, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> He shouldn't have been. He made one stupid mistake,
>
> > One stupid mistake? His whole shitty life is a mistake!
>
> He's done a lot of good shit including raising millions for sick kids.
I wonder how much Howard Stern has done for kids?
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Date: 17 Apr 2007 11:54:39
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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"BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1176826344.055836.172890@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 17, 2:15 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com>
> wrote:
>> "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1176774431.654687.272150@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Apr 16, 8:36 pm, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> He shouldn't have been. He made one stupid mistake,
>>
>> > One stupid mistake? His whole shitty life is a mistake!
>>
>> He's done a lot of good shit including raising millions for sick kids.
>
> I wonder how much Howard Stern has done for kids?
It is a mystery to me why people listen to Howard Stern. Do you think Donald
Trump will run for president?
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Date: 17 Apr 2007 06:10:06
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 16, 10:06 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 16 Apr 2007 18:56:45 -0700, BigPurdueFan <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 16, 9:47 pm, annika1980 <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Apr 16, 8:36 pm, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> > He shouldn't have been. He made one stupid mistake,
>
> >> One stupid mistake? His whole shitty life is a mistake!
>
> >I've read that since then, but it didn't matter did it? This whole
> >thing was about one comment. He didn't get the publicity for his past
> >comments, just this one. He didn't get fired for anything but that
> >one stupid mistake.
>
> >Like I said, Howard Stern says ten worse things every day (if not
> >more) and no one cares.
>
> A testament to the IQ of his following.
I listened to him for a few weeks about five years ago and couldn't
believe how bad it was. Every once in a while I would check in to see
if it was any better, but it just got worse.
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 19:12:22
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 16, 9:56 pm, BigPurdueFan <bigpu...@aol.com > wrote:
>
> > One stupid mistake? His whole shitty life is a mistake!
>
> I've read that since then, but it didn't matter did it? This whole
> thing was about one comment. He didn't get the publicity for his past
> comments, just this one. He didn't get fired for anything but that
> one stupid mistake.
>
> Like I said, Howard Stern says ten worse things every day (if not
> more) and no one cares.
Name 3.
I'll agree that he wouldn't have been fired except for Sharpton.
And I think CBS kowtowed to the almighty dollar on this one.
But I think the SOB should have never gotten a job in the first place.
He's a drug-abusing, alcoholic racist. That alone should make him the
front-runner for the next Republican primary.
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Date: 17 Apr 2007 03:38:59
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On 16-Apr-2007, annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
> That alone should make him the
> front-runner for the next Republican primary.
Except that he's a Democrat, dawg!
--
bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 18:56:45
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 16, 9:47 pm, annika1980 <annika1...@aol.com > wrote:
> On Apr 16, 8:36 pm, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > He shouldn't have been. He made one stupid mistake,
>
> One stupid mistake? His whole shitty life is a mistake!
I've read that since then, but it didn't matter did it? This whole
thing was about one comment. He didn't get the publicity for his past
comments, just this one. He didn't get fired for anything but that
one stupid mistake.
Like I said, Howard Stern says ten worse things every day (if not
more) and no one cares.
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Date: 17 Apr 2007 02:06:28
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On 16 Apr 2007 18:56:45 -0700, BigPurdueFan <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote:
>On Apr 16, 9:47 pm, annika1980 <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 16, 8:36 pm, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > He shouldn't have been. He made one stupid mistake,
>>
>> One stupid mistake? His whole shitty life is a mistake!
>
>I've read that since then, but it didn't matter did it? This whole
>thing was about one comment. He didn't get the publicity for his past
>comments, just this one. He didn't get fired for anything but that
>one stupid mistake.
>
>Like I said, Howard Stern says ten worse things every day (if not
>more) and no one cares.
A testament to the IQ of his following.
___,
\o
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 18:47:11
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 16, 8:36 pm, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com > wrote:
> He shouldn't have been. He made one stupid mistake,
One stupid mistake? His whole shitty life is a mistake!
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Date: 17 Apr 2007 20:30:19
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On 16 Apr 2007 18:47:11 -0700, annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
>> He shouldn't have been. He made one stupid mistake,
>
>One stupid mistake? His whole shitty life is a mistake!
I disagree. The mistake belongs to anyone who listens to his show.
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Date: 18 Apr 2007 10:12:06
From: John Reddy
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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In article <6jpa23tnqg4fdgtlrbedqml6bko89ng2f2@4ax.com >,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com > wrote:
> On 16 Apr 2007 18:47:11 -0700, annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> He shouldn't have been. He made one stupid mistake,
> >
> >One stupid mistake? His whole shitty life is a mistake!
>
> I disagree. The mistake belongs to anyone who listens to his show.
Absolutely. And even though he got canned, he's still laughing all the
way to the bank.
It proves H.L. Mencken right: Nobody ever lost a dime underestimating
the taste of the American public.
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 23:15:32
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1176774431.654687.272150@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 16, 8:36 pm, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> He shouldn't have been. He made one stupid mistake,
>
> One stupid mistake? His whole shitty life is a mistake!
He's done a lot of good shit including raising millions for sick kids.
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 17:36:44
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 13, 11:15 am, "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com > wrote:
> On Apr 13, 7:46 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Word is that Imus has signed on with Michael Richards to do
> > a new sitcom spinoff, called "KKKramer."
>
> > Chris Rock was recently asked by Bill Maher if he thought Michael
> > Richards was a racist. Rock said, "He yelled 'Nigger' in a crowded
> > theatre! What do you gotta do to be called a racist these days ....
> > shoot Medgar Evers?"
>
> I liked what Bill Maher said about the Imus controversy. He pointed
> out that a comedian need only to have an hour or so of good jokes
> whenever they perform. Imus had to do 20 hours a week of fresh
> material. In that context, he completely understood why Imus
> slipped. He also stated he shouldn't be fired.
>
> -Greg
He shouldn't have been. He made one stupid mistake, of which no one
would have heard about if it wasn't spread by the two idiots who claim
to represent African Americans across America (does anyone really
think those idiots represent them?). I'm more offended that Howard
Stern says crap ten times worse than that every single day and no one
gives a crap.
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 07:33:33
From: Hero
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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George, good values and good thoughts of CBS. However, let's call this
what it is... MONEY, greenbacks, the almighty dollar. CBS fired him
becasue it was good business. If the sponsors hadn't pulled out, IMUS
would still be on TV/radio.
It's funny how black on black crime is not so much a highlight on CNN
etc.. but white on black.. that's the politically orrect thing to do.
I saw a publicict noted how black college kids were demonstrating
against rap songs that explicitly spoke against wife beating kilkling,
rape etc..
Did it make CNN, CNBC or FOX??? Nope.
~Hero
>
> Bottom feeders add NOTHING to human health or values in this world: they add
> to the pollution.
>
> Good for CBS etc., - for whatever reasons they caved in. It MIGHT just
> call up others to speak of this kind of contamination of our environment--
> others who CAN ALSO do something about it.
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 14:35:31
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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People could pass out flyers at comedy clubs reminding people that if they
laugh at racist jokes by black or white comics, they are encouraging racism.
The smart comedians will get it and make it part of their act. The others
will take a longer time to follow.
"Hero" <khunt@ethus.jnj.com > wrote in message
news:1176734013.900995.237280@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> George, good values and good thoughts of CBS. However, let's call this
> what it is... MONEY, greenbacks, the almighty dollar. CBS fired him
> becasue it was good business. If the sponsors hadn't pulled out, IMUS
> would still be on TV/radio.
>
> It's funny how black on black crime is not so much a highlight on CNN
> etc.. but white on black.. that's the politically orrect thing to do.
> I saw a publicict noted how black college kids were demonstrating
> against rap songs that explicitly spoke against wife beating kilkling,
> rape etc..
>
> Did it make CNN, CNBC or FOX??? Nope.
>
> ~Hero
>
>
>>
>> Bottom feeders add NOTHING to human health or values in this world: they
>> add
>> to the pollution.
>>
>> Good for CBS etc., - for whatever reasons they caved in. It MIGHT just
>> call up others to speak of this kind of contamination of our
>> environment--
>> others who CAN ALSO do something about it.
>
>
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 08:14:21
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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I've heard rumors that he might go to sat radio.
I guess he wants to put this whole "nappy" thing behind
him..........even if it means going back to getting his wrinkled ass
kicked by Howard on a daily basis.
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Date: 13 Apr 2007 15:43:29
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 13, 12:49 pm, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> In Imus' words, the New York Knicks are "chest-thumping pimps."
That explains why they suck. It's hard out there for a pimp.
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Date: 14 Apr 2007 01:11:19
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On 13 Apr 2007 15:43:29 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
wrote:
>On Apr 13, 12:49 pm, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In Imus' words, the New York Knicks are "chest-thumping pimps."
>
>That explains why they suck. It's hard out there for a pimp.
Maybe the chest pumping pimps could have the nappy headed hoes work
work capitol hill for $20 hummers.
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Date: 13 Apr 2007 11:01:37
From: cja
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 13, 12:49 pm, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> In May 2005, MSNBC let Contessa Brewer out of her short stint as
> a news reader on Imus' morning show after Imus had made a daily
> game of crude personal attacks against her, calling her a pig, a
> skank, dumber than dirt and other similar felicities, all on air.
>
That's one I never understood. The attacks seemed to come from
nowhere, and I can't imagine them being justified. Maybe she refused
to put up with Imus' crap, and he couldn't abide her standing up for
herself or fighting back. Does anyone know the rest of the story?
- cja
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Date: 13 Apr 2007 18:32:24
From: Chicago shorty fan
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On 2007-04-13 13:01:37 -0500, "cja" <cja@excite.com > said:
> On Apr 13, 12:49 pm, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In May 2005, MSNBC let Contessa Brewer out of her short stint as
>> a news reader on Imus' morning show after Imus had made a daily
>> game of crude personal attacks against her, calling her a pig, a
>> skank, dumber than dirt and other similar felicities, all on air.
>>
> That's one I never understood. The attacks seemed to come from
> nowhere, and I can't imagine them being justified. Maybe she refused
> to put up with Imus' crap, and he couldn't abide her standing up for
> herself or fighting back. Does anyone know the rest of the story?
>
> - cja
Never listened to Imus, but to hear my wife talk, he was right about
Brewer beign dumber than dirt.
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Date: 13 Apr 2007 10:08:34
From: Dene
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 13, 9:49 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> Dene <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 13, 9:28 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
> >> Dene <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> > On Apr 13, 7:46 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> Word is that Imus has signed on with Michael Richards to do
> >> >> a new sitcom spinoff, called "KKKramer."
>
> >> >> Chris Rock was recently asked by Bill Maher if he thought Michael
> >> >> Richards was a racist. Rock said, "He yelled 'Nigger' in a crowded
> >> >> theatre! What do you gotta do to be called a racist these days ....
> >> >> shoot Medgar Evers?"
>
> >> > I liked what Bill Maher said about the Imus controversy. He pointed
> >> > out that a comedian need only to have an hour or so of good jokes
> >> > whenever they perform. Imus had to do 20 hours a week of fresh
> >> > material. In that context, he completely understood why Imus
> >> > slipped. He also stated he shouldn't be fired.
>
> >> I don't get why guys like Maher (and Ken) think this is the only
> >> time Imus has gone down this road. This incident was reflective
> >> of his entire MO. It wasn't a slip-up.
>
> > Chris, you keep saying this but I have no recollections of any other
> > racially tainted remarks Imus made, nor have I read of any accounts in
> > the media
>
> Imus himself has referred to African-American journalist Gwen
> Ifill as "a cleaning lady," to New York Times sports reporter Bill
> Rhoden as "quota hire" and to tennis player Amelie Mauresmo as "a
> big old lesbo." Imus called Washington Post reporter Howard Kurtz a
> "boner-nosed... beanie-wearing Jewboy," referred to a disabled
> colleague as "the cripple," and to an Indian men's tennis duo as
> "Gunga Din and Sambo." In Imus' words, the New York Knicks are
> "chest-thumping pimps."
>
> Imus' on again/off again sidekick Sid Rosenberg was temporarily
> fired in 2001 for calling tennis player Venus Williams an
> "animal" and remarking that the Williams sisters -- Venus and her
> tennis player sister Serena -- would more likely be featured in
> National Geographic than in Playboy. Rosenberg insisted to New
> York's Daily News (6/7/01) that his comments weren't racist,
> "just zoological." In 2004, MSNBC had to apologize when the
> rehired Rosenberg referred to Palestinians as "stinking animals."
>
> In May 2005, MSNBC let Contessa Brewer out of her short stint as
> a news reader on Imus' morning show after Imus had made a daily
> game of crude personal attacks against her, calling her a pig, a
> skank, dumber than dirt and other similar felicities, all on air.
> MSNBC claimed they "expressed their displeasure" to the host (New
> York Post, 5/1/05), while noting that his "humor" was "often
> brilliant and provocative."
>
> http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3082
>
> --
> Chris Bellomy
> C-List Charter Memberhttp://clist.org/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thank you Chris. I'm listening.....
-Greg
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Date: 13 Apr 2007 22:00:09
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1176484114.138729.253590@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 13, 9:49 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
>> Dene <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > On Apr 13, 9:28 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
>> >> Dene <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Apr 13, 7:46 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Word is that Imus has signed on with Michael Richards to do
>> >> >> a new sitcom spinoff, called "KKKramer."
>>
>> >> >> Chris Rock was recently asked by Bill Maher if he thought Michael
>> >> >> Richards was a racist. Rock said, "He yelled 'Nigger' in a crowded
>> >> >> theatre! What do you gotta do to be called a racist these days
>> >> >> ....
>> >> >> shoot Medgar Evers?"
>>
>> >> > I liked what Bill Maher said about the Imus controversy. He pointed
>> >> > out that a comedian need only to have an hour or so of good jokes
>> >> > whenever they perform. Imus had to do 20 hours a week of fresh
>> >> > material. In that context, he completely understood why Imus
>> >> > slipped. He also stated he shouldn't be fired.
>>
>> >> I don't get why guys like Maher (and Ken) think this is the only
>> >> time Imus has gone down this road. This incident was reflective
>> >> of his entire MO. It wasn't a slip-up.
>>
>> > Chris, you keep saying this but I have no recollections of any other
>> > racially tainted remarks Imus made, nor have I read of any accounts in
>> > the media
>>
>> Imus himself has referred to African-American journalist Gwen
>> Ifill as "a cleaning lady," to New York Times sports reporter Bill
>> Rhoden as "quota hire" and to tennis player Amelie Mauresmo as "a
>> big old lesbo." Imus called Washington Post reporter Howard Kurtz a
>> "boner-nosed... beanie-wearing Jewboy," referred to a disabled
>> colleague as "the cripple," and to an Indian men's tennis duo as
>> "Gunga Din and Sambo." In Imus' words, the New York Knicks are
>> "chest-thumping pimps."
>>
>> Imus' on again/off again sidekick Sid Rosenberg was temporarily
>> fired in 2001 for calling tennis player Venus Williams an
>> "animal" and remarking that the Williams sisters -- Venus and her
>> tennis player sister Serena -- would more likely be featured in
>> National Geographic than in Playboy. Rosenberg insisted to New
>> York's Daily News (6/7/01) that his comments weren't racist,
>> "just zoological." In 2004, MSNBC had to apologize when the
>> rehired Rosenberg referred to Palestinians as "stinking animals."
>>
>> In May 2005, MSNBC let Contessa Brewer out of her short stint as
>> a news reader on Imus' morning show after Imus had made a daily
>> game of crude personal attacks against her, calling her a pig, a
>> skank, dumber than dirt and other similar felicities, all on air.
>> MSNBC claimed they "expressed their displeasure" to the host (New
>> York Post, 5/1/05), while noting that his "humor" was "often
>> brilliant and provocative."
>>
>> http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3082
>>
>> --
>> Chris Bellomy
>> C-List Charter Memberhttp://clist.org/- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you Chris. I'm listening.....
>
> -Greg
Here's more for you, Dene.
http://www.nabj.org/front/story/53032p-81736c.html
Following some of these instances, Imus publically "apologized," saying he'd
never do it again. But of course, once the furor died down, he returned to
his old ways.
Here's more for you...from the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
Imus' garbage-filled Cleveland days
In '70s, bad boy took WGAR from worst to first in local ratings
Friday, April 13, 2007
Tom Feran
Plain Dealer Reporter
Don Imus hit Cleveland radio twice in the 1970s - first as a springboard to
the top in New York City, then as a net that broke his fall and bounced him
back.
He grabbed listeners and headlines both times, arriving and leaving with a
reputation as one of radio's bad boys. When he left the first time, the
headline on a column in The Plain Dealer said, "Garbage mouth goes to
Gotham."
That was in late 1971, after 14 months at the old WGAR AM/1220. Imus - 30
years old and three years out of broadcasting school - was hired to
jump-start mornings when it dropped a staid, middle-of-the-road format to
become the first major-market oldies station.
He had previously worked in Stockton, Calif., where he was fired for running
an Eldridge Cleaver look-alike contest, and Sacramento, where he did the
prank phone call, "1,200 Hamburgers to Go," that became the title cut of his
first comedy album and where he was named Billboard magazine's middle-market
air personality of 1969.
In Cleveland, "Don was the shock jock of the era from his first show," said
Chuck Collier of WMJI FM/105.7, who started the same day as Imus at WGAR.
Just two months after hitting town, he was sued for slander by a TV
meteorologist he joked was drunk on the air. Sometimes riffing in
exaggerated Top 40 style, at other times growling or slurring his words, he
asked female callers if they were naked, used sexually and politically
provocative material, and began using such comic characters as the Right
Rev. Billy Sol Hargis of the First Church of the Gooey Death and Discount
House of Worship.
Critics were vocal, but WGAR shot from worst to first in local ratings in
one three-month ratings period, and Imus was named Billboard's major market
personality of the year.
Making his first trip to New York to accept the award, he was offered a job
at WNBC by another ex-Clevelander, Perry Bascom. He packed up his wife,
family, hat and mouth, and moved to the city he dismissed as "eight
Clevelands."
He was again a sensation, making the cover of New York magazine and getting
profiled in Life. But he clashed frequently with WNBC management over on-air
comments, and was frequently late or absent. When the station did an on-air
housecleaning in 1977, Imus, further tarnished by cocaine and alcohol abuse,
was swept out the door.
He returned to Cleveland in July 1978 to do afternoons, for the only time in
his career, on WHK AM/1420, a country music and talk station where his
morning counterpart was Gary Dee, who had gone beyond Imus in his use of
sexual, racial and ethnic material. Times had changed, and Imus, famously
"in exile," did not create the stir he once did.
He returned to New York and WNBC (now WFAN) the second time in August 1979,
building a cast of contributors to his show that includes Larry Kenney, who
competed against Imus 37 years ago on WWWE (now WTAM), and working for
program director Kevin Metheny, now director of programming for Clear
Channel Cleveland.
Disc jockey and historian Norm N. Nite, who worked with Imus on both WGAR
and WNBC, noted a last local link: "Cleveland launched his career, and
Cleveland shot him down, in a sense. The Rutgers' girls basketball team was
playing in Cleveland in the clip on his show."
© 2007 The Plain Dealer
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Date: 13 Apr 2007 09:37:19
From: Dene
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 13, 9:28 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> Dene <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 13, 7:46 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> Word is that Imus has signed on with Michael Richards to do
> >> a new sitcom spinoff, called "KKKramer."
>
> >> Chris Rock was recently asked by Bill Maher if he thought Michael
> >> Richards was a racist. Rock said, "He yelled 'Nigger' in a crowded
> >> theatre! What do you gotta do to be called a racist these days ....
> >> shoot Medgar Evers?"
>
> > I liked what Bill Maher said about the Imus controversy. He pointed
> > out that a comedian need only to have an hour or so of good jokes
> > whenever they perform. Imus had to do 20 hours a week of fresh
> > material. In that context, he completely understood why Imus
> > slipped. He also stated he shouldn't be fired.
>
> I don't get why guys like Maher (and Ken) think this is the only
> time Imus has gone down this road. This incident was reflective
> of his entire MO. It wasn't a slip-up.
>
> --
> Chris Bellomy
> C-List Charter Memberhttp://clist.org/
Chris, you keep saying this but I have no recollections of any other
racially tainted remarks Imus made, nor have I read of any accounts in
the media. Surely they would be mentioning it in a 2nd or 3rd strike
context.
I do recall his sports guy made fun of an athlete who had breast
cancer and Imus fired him for it. But....that's apples and oranges.
-Greg
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Date: 14 Apr 2007 01:06:07
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On 13 Apr 2007 09:37:19 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
>Chris, you keep saying this but I have no recollections of any other
>racially tainted remarks Imus made, nor have I read of any accounts in
>the media. Surely they would be mentioning it in a 2nd or 3rd strike
>context.
Imus has said some horribly anti-Semitic things over the years. He
was beyond racist. OTOH; him getting fired is a signal that the end
of the First Ammendment is at hand.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/imus-anti-semitic-in-the-morning/
Shortly before Christmas last year, syndicated radio star and MSNBC
host Don Imus called the book publishers Simon & Schuster “thieving
Jews” (Imus in the Morning, 12/15/04), returning to the subject later
in the program to offer a mock apology, saying that the phrase he used
was “redundant.”
… Imus [also] called Washington Post media writer Howard Kurtz “that
boner-nosed … beanie-wearing little Jew boy” (Newsday, 10/19/98).
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Date: 14 Apr 2007 10:39:33
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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"Head Shot" <HeadShot@pinkmist.gov > wrote in message
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> On 13 Apr 2007 09:37:19 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>>Chris, you keep saying this but I have no recollections of any other
>>racially tainted remarks Imus made, nor have I read of any accounts in
>>the media. Surely they would be mentioning it in a 2nd or 3rd strike
>>context.
>
> Imus has said some horribly anti-Semitic things over the years. He
> was beyond racist. OTOH; him getting fired is a signal that the end
> of the First Ammendment is at hand.
>
>
I disagree: if CBS and NBC are reacting to people's outrage, it is not
government censorship that is acting: it is decency and embarrassment, IMO.
No government assistance has been invoked.
It has also catapulted the REAL hypocrisy of the "reverends" who are so
vocal and are trying so hard to act the moral arbiters.
There are a slew of bottom feeders that contaminate the air and I avoid them
myself--including MOST OF ALL the self-righteous. I have a right to despise
them and to cheer when someone else in power in the situation recognizes the
indecency and nastiness enough to do something about it. Note what is going
on at Fox.
Bottom feeders add NOTHING to human health or values in this world: they add
to the pollution.
Good for CBS etc., - for whatever reasons they caved in. It MIGHT just
call up others to speak of this kind of contamination of our environment--
others who CAN ALSO do something about it.
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Date: 14 Apr 2007 01:28:30
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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"Head Shot" <HeadShot@pinkmist.gov > wrote in message
news:uvn0239fomr9nfjk42ll6uuv2qhelggnkp@4ax.com...
> On 13 Apr 2007 09:37:19 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>>Chris, you keep saying this but I have no recollections of any other
>>racially tainted remarks Imus made, nor have I read of any accounts in
>>the media. Surely they would be mentioning it in a 2nd or 3rd strike
>>context.
>
> Imus has said some horribly anti-Semitic things over the years. He
> was beyond racist. OTOH; him getting fired is a signal that the end
> of the First Ammendment is at hand.
>
> http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/imus-anti-semitic-in-the-morning/
>
> Shortly before Christmas last year, syndicated radio star and MSNBC
> host Don Imus called the book publishers Simon & Schuster "thieving
> Jews" (Imus in the Morning, 12/15/04), returning to the subject later
> in the program to offer a mock apology, saying that the phrase he used
> was "redundant."
> . Imus [also] called Washington Post media writer Howard Kurtz "that
> boner-nosed . beanie-wearing little Jew boy" (Newsday, 10/19/98).
The First Amendment is only in danger if the First Amendment you're talking
about is the one that Constitutionally guarantees Americans to have their
own radio show. I'm pretty sure Mr. Imus is still free to say "nappy headed
hos" on any streetcorner in America if he so chooses.
However, the First Amendment I believe you're referring to says nothing
about consequences that come from exercising one's right to Free Speech.
You'll have to point out the part where you seem to think it says you can
say anything without the risk of consequences for so doing. I think you've
imagined that part.
Randy
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 18:31:43
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:28:30 -0400, "\"R&B\""
<noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote:
>"Head Shot" <HeadShot@pinkmist.gov> wrote in message
>news:uvn0239fomr9nfjk42ll6uuv2qhelggnkp@4ax.com...
>> On 13 Apr 2007 09:37:19 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Chris, you keep saying this but I have no recollections of any other
>>>racially tainted remarks Imus made, nor have I read of any accounts in
>>>the media. Surely they would be mentioning it in a 2nd or 3rd strike
>>>context.
>>
>> Imus has said some horribly anti-Semitic things over the years. He
>> was beyond racist. OTOH; him getting fired is a signal that the end
>> of the First Ammendment is at hand.
>>
>> http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/imus-anti-semitic-in-the-morning/
>>
>> Shortly before Christmas last year, syndicated radio star and MSNBC
>> host Don Imus called the book publishers Simon & Schuster "thieving
>> Jews" (Imus in the Morning, 12/15/04), returning to the subject later
>> in the program to offer a mock apology, saying that the phrase he used
>> was "redundant."
>> . Imus [also] called Washington Post media writer Howard Kurtz "that
>> boner-nosed . beanie-wearing little Jew boy" (Newsday, 10/19/98).
>
>
>The First Amendment is only in danger if the First Amendment you're talking
>about is the one that Constitutionally guarantees Americans to have their
>own radio show. I'm pretty sure Mr. Imus is still free to say "nappy headed
>hos" on any streetcorner in America if he so chooses.
>
>However, the First Amendment I believe you're referring to says nothing
>about consequences that come from exercising one's right to Free Speech.
>You'll have to point out the part where you seem to think it says you can
>say anything without the risk of consequences for so doing. I think you've
>imagined that part.
Hi Randy;
You misconstrue what I was getting at. I do know that he worked for
CBS and they were correct for firing him after the public outrage. I
more meant that if employers keep firing or otherwise chastising
every person that voices an inflammatory view; eventually we end up
with a citizenry who are terrified to say anything that is not
perfectly PC and the First Amendment becomes useless / worthless.
-HS
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 21:24:44
From: Joe
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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Head Shot wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:28:30 -0400, "\"R&B\""
> <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote:
>
>> "Head Shot" <HeadShot@pinkmist.gov> wrote in message
>> news:uvn0239fomr9nfjk42ll6uuv2qhelggnkp@4ax.com...
>>> On 13 Apr 2007 09:37:19 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Chris, you keep saying this but I have no recollections of any other
>>>> racially tainted remarks Imus made, nor have I read of any accounts in
>>>> the media. Surely they would be mentioning it in a 2nd or 3rd strike
>>>> context.
>>> Imus has said some horribly anti-Semitic things over the years. He
>>> was beyond racist. OTOH; him getting fired is a signal that the end
>>> of the First Ammendment is at hand.
>>>
>>> http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/imus-anti-semitic-in-the-morning/
>>>
>>> Shortly before Christmas last year, syndicated radio star and MSNBC
>>> host Don Imus called the book publishers Simon & Schuster "thieving
>>> Jews" (Imus in the Morning, 12/15/04), returning to the subject later
>>> in the program to offer a mock apology, saying that the phrase he used
>>> was "redundant."
>>> . Imus [also] called Washington Post media writer Howard Kurtz "that
>>> boner-nosed . beanie-wearing little Jew boy" (Newsday, 10/19/98).
>>
>> The First Amendment is only in danger if the First Amendment you're talking
>> about is the one that Constitutionally guarantees Americans to have their
>> own radio show. I'm pretty sure Mr. Imus is still free to say "nappy headed
>> hos" on any streetcorner in America if he so chooses.
>>
>> However, the First Amendment I believe you're referring to says nothing
>> about consequences that come from exercising one's right to Free Speech.
>> You'll have to point out the part where you seem to think it says you can
>> say anything without the risk of consequences for so doing. I think you've
>> imagined that part.
>
>
> Hi Randy;
>
> You misconstrue what I was getting at. I do know that he worked for
> CBS and they were correct for firing him after the public outrage. I
> more meant that if employers keep firing or otherwise chastising
> every person that voices an inflammatory view; eventually we end up
> with a citizenry who are terrified to say anything that is not
> perfectly PC and the First Amendment becomes useless / worthless.
>
> -HS
Dead on right!
We are not too far that condition right now. After a period of time,
hopefully not to long, comes the pendulum swing. The Danes are in that
phase but the French are stuck on the wrong side.
Joe
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Date: 14 Apr 2007 02:13:13
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:FOednbUef57Q-73bnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "Head Shot" <HeadShot@pinkmist.gov> wrote in message
> news:uvn0239fomr9nfjk42ll6uuv2qhelggnkp@4ax.com...
>> On 13 Apr 2007 09:37:19 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Chris, you keep saying this but I have no recollections of any other
>>>racially tainted remarks Imus made, nor have I read of any accounts in
>>>the media. Surely they would be mentioning it in a 2nd or 3rd strike
>>>context.
>>
>> Imus has said some horribly anti-Semitic things over the years. He
>> was beyond racist. OTOH; him getting fired is a signal that the end
>> of the First Ammendment is at hand.
>>
>> http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/imus-anti-semitic-in-the-morning/
>>
>> Shortly before Christmas last year, syndicated radio star and MSNBC
>> host Don Imus called the book publishers Simon & Schuster "thieving
>> Jews" (Imus in the Morning, 12/15/04), returning to the subject later
>> in the program to offer a mock apology, saying that the phrase he used
>> was "redundant."
>> . Imus [also] called Washington Post media writer Howard Kurtz "that
>> boner-nosed . beanie-wearing little Jew boy" (Newsday, 10/19/98).
>
>
> The First Amendment is only in danger if the First Amendment you're
> talking about is the one that Constitutionally guarantees Americans to
> have their own radio show. I'm pretty sure Mr. Imus is still free to say
> "nappy headed hos" on any streetcorner in America if he so chooses.
>
> However, the First Amendment I believe you're referring to says nothing
> about consequences that come from exercising one's right to Free Speech.
> You'll have to point out the part where you seem to think it says you can
> say anything without the risk of consequences for so doing. I think
> you've imagined that part.
>
> Randy
It is so strange the the founding fathers meant for Howerd Stern to be able
to do what he does and for people protesting against political conventions
to be put in a bull pen blocks from the conventions and from media coverage.
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Date: 13 Apr 2007 16:49:48
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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Dene <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On Apr 13, 9:28 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
>> Dene <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > On Apr 13, 7:46 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> Word is that Imus has signed on with Michael Richards to do
>> >> a new sitcom spinoff, called "KKKramer."
>>
>> >> Chris Rock was recently asked by Bill Maher if he thought Michael
>> >> Richards was a racist. Rock said, "He yelled 'Nigger' in a crowded
>> >> theatre! What do you gotta do to be called a racist these days ....
>> >> shoot Medgar Evers?"
>>
>> > I liked what Bill Maher said about the Imus controversy. He pointed
>> > out that a comedian need only to have an hour or so of good jokes
>> > whenever they perform. Imus had to do 20 hours a week of fresh
>> > material. In that context, he completely understood why Imus
>> > slipped. He also stated he shouldn't be fired.
>>
>> I don't get why guys like Maher (and Ken) think this is the only
>> time Imus has gone down this road. This incident was reflective
>> of his entire MO. It wasn't a slip-up.
>
> Chris, you keep saying this but I have no recollections of any other
> racially tainted remarks Imus made, nor have I read of any accounts in
> the media
Imus himself has referred to African-American journalist Gwen
Ifill as "a cleaning lady," to New York Times sports reporter Bill
Rhoden as "quota hire" and to tennis player Amelie Mauresmo as "a
big old lesbo." Imus called Washington Post reporter Howard Kurtz a
"boner-nosed... beanie-wearing Jewboy," referred to a disabled
colleague as "the cripple," and to an Indian men's tennis duo as
"Gunga Din and Sambo." In Imus' words, the New York Knicks are
"chest-thumping pimps."
Imus' on again/off again sidekick Sid Rosenberg was temporarily
fired in 2001 for calling tennis player Venus Williams an
"animal" and remarking that the Williams sisters -- Venus and her
tennis player sister Serena -- would more likely be featured in
National Geographic than in Playboy. Rosenberg insisted to New
York's Daily News (6/7/01) that his comments weren't racist,
"just zoological." In 2004, MSNBC had to apologize when the
rehired Rosenberg referred to Palestinians as "stinking animals."
In May 2005, MSNBC let Contessa Brewer out of her short stint as
a news reader on Imus' morning show after Imus had made a daily
game of crude personal attacks against her, calling her a pig, a
skank, dumber than dirt and other similar felicities, all on air.
MSNBC claimed they "expressed their displeasure" to the host (New
York Post, 5/1/05), while noting that his "humor" was "often
brilliant and provocative."
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3082
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 14 Apr 2007 09:59:23
From: John Reddy
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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In article <0T40r13lI3duN34@redshark.goodshow.net >,
Chris Bellomy <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> In Imus' words, the New York Knicks are
> "chest-thumping pimps."
Some of his other remarks may be over the top and uncalled for but this
one is spot on.
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Date: 13 Apr 2007 08:15:59
From: Dene
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On Apr 13, 7:46 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com > wrote:
> Word is that Imus has signed on with Michael Richards to do
> a new sitcom spinoff, called "KKKramer."
>
> Chris Rock was recently asked by Bill Maher if he thought Michael
> Richards was a racist. Rock said, "He yelled 'Nigger' in a crowded
> theatre! What do you gotta do to be called a racist these days ....
> shoot Medgar Evers?"
I liked what Bill Maher said about the Imus controversy. He pointed
out that a comedian need only to have an hour or so of good jokes
whenever they perform. Imus had to do 20 hours a week of fresh
material. In that context, he completely understood why Imus
slipped. He also stated he shouldn't be fired.
-Greg
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Date: 14 Apr 2007 02:05:03
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1176477359.028805.96410@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 13, 7:46 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Word is that Imus has signed on with Michael Richards to do
>> a new sitcom spinoff, called "KKKramer."
>>
>> Chris Rock was recently asked by Bill Maher if he thought Michael
>> Richards was a racist. Rock said, "He yelled 'Nigger' in a crowded
>> theatre! What do you gotta do to be called a racist these days ....
>> shoot Medgar Evers?"
>
> I liked what Bill Maher said about the Imus controversy. He pointed
> out that a comedian need only to have an hour or so of good jokes
> whenever they perform. Imus had to do 20 hours a week of fresh
> material. In that context, he completely understood why Imus
> slipped. He also stated he shouldn't be fired.
>
> -Greg
I thought Imus was dead. He looks dead.
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Date: 16 Apr 2007 05:37:29
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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On 14-Apr-2007, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:
> I thought Imus was dead. He looks dead.
He does have a bit of the Keith Richards look, does he not?
--
bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 13 Apr 2007 16:28:29
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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Dene <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On Apr 13, 7:46 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Word is that Imus has signed on with Michael Richards to do
>> a new sitcom spinoff, called "KKKramer."
>>
>> Chris Rock was recently asked by Bill Maher if he thought Michael
>> Richards was a racist. Rock said, "He yelled 'Nigger' in a crowded
>> theatre! What do you gotta do to be called a racist these days ....
>> shoot Medgar Evers?"
>
> I liked what Bill Maher said about the Imus controversy. He pointed
> out that a comedian need only to have an hour or so of good jokes
> whenever they perform. Imus had to do 20 hours a week of fresh
> material. In that context, he completely understood why Imus
> slipped. He also stated he shouldn't be fired.
I don't get why guys like Maher (and Ken) think this is the only
time Imus has gone down this road. This incident was reflective
of his entire MO. It wasn't a slip-up.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 13 Apr 2007 12:23:12
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: New Gig for Don Imus?
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"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1176477359.028805.96410@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 13, 7:46 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Word is that Imus has signed on with Michael Richards to do
>> a new sitcom spinoff, called "KKKramer."
>>
>> Chris Rock was recently asked by Bill Maher if he thought Michael
>> Richards was a racist. Rock said, "He yelled 'Nigger' in a crowded
>> theatre! What do you gotta do to be called a racist these days ....
>> shoot Medgar Evers?"
>
> I liked what Bill Maher said about the Imus controversy. He pointed
> out that a comedian need only to have an hour or so of good jokes
> whenever they perform. Imus had to do 20 hours a week of fresh
> material. In that context, he completely understood why Imus
> slipped. He also stated he shouldn't be fired.
>
> -Greg
But you gotta remember, Maher himself was fired for something he said that
was construed as being anti-American on his show Politically Incorrect in
the aftermath of 9/11.
I'm guessing that many of the same people that believe Imus should not have
been fired were among the first in line to call for Maher's ouster from
ABC-TV.
Randy
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