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Date: 20 Dec 2006 05:24:56
From: squelchy
Subject: Need Help Please
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Hi There
Not posted to this group yet but found the information on here very
helpfull in my new hobby of golf, I have been playing now for over 8
months had some leasons and starting to get better.
I am looking to upgrade some of my clubs as been using very cheap,
unfitting and not whats right for me (from what I can gather from
information gleaned off this site and otheres).
I have always been into working with my hands and have reciently been
reading allot about building my own clubs but am finding it very hard
to find any shops or stockists of club building kit in the UK or even
Europe it all seems to come from the states and I dont rearly want to
have to get all the hastle of ordering and paying import taxes as am on
a buget is there anyware you can tell me that might help as I am very
interested to try this out?
Also forgot to mention that my options are even more limited as I am
left handed and finding good left handed clubs is hard already.
Thank you all for your help with this matter
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Date: 05 Jan 2007 08:45:39
From: squelchy
Subject: Re: Need Help Please
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Mike Dalecki wrote:
> squelchy wrote:
> > Mike Dalecki wrote:
> >> squelchy wrote:
> >>> Hi There
> >>>
> >>> Not posted to this group yet but found the information on here very
> >>> helpfull in my new hobby of golf, I have been playing now for over 8
> >>> months had some leasons and starting to get better.
> >>>
> >>> I am looking to upgrade some of my clubs as been using very cheap,
> >>> unfitting and not whats right for me (from what I can gather from
> >>> information gleaned off this site and otheres).
> >>>
> >>> I have always been into working with my hands and have reciently been
> >>> reading allot about building my own clubs but am finding it very hard
> >>> to find any shops or stockists of club building kit in the UK or even
> >>> Europe it all seems to come from the states and I dont rearly want to
> >>> have to get all the hastle of ordering and paying import taxes as am =
on
> >>> a buget is there anyware you can tell me that might help as I am very
> >>> interested to try this out?
> >>>
> >>> Also forgot to mention that my options are even more limited as I am
> >>> left handed and finding good left handed clubs is hard already.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you all for your help with this matter
> >>>
> >> Building clubs isn't rocket science--you can do it. And if you take
> >> some care, you can build clubs that will be as good as what you can get
> >> from OEM sources.
> >>
> >> One of the major component houses--Golfworks, Golfsmith, or similar--h=
as
> >> a European presence, so you should be able to find components.
> >>
> >> I suggest a couple of things. First, make a wedge or something simila=
r=2E
> >> One club, so you can get the basics down (gripping, preparing hosels
> >> for epoxy, and the like). It won't cost that much, and it'll help you
> >> model the entire process.
> >>
> >> Then, find some components you like (there are some pretty good lefty
> >> components out there). Choose shafts (something like True Temper Lite
> >> XL), and get a couple extra for sorting and matching (and possible
> >> mistakes :). Get some ferrules, and some grips, some epoxy, and you
> >> have most of what you need.
> >>
> >> Both Golfworks and Golfsmith offer a beginning kit for clubmaking at
> >> around $100 that's pretty good, so I'd look at that if I were you.
> >>
> >> You will find that this isn't hard, just that mostly we have no
> >> referents for it. And you can ask here for advice.
> >>
> >> You should be able to build a very nice set of irons (3-PW) for under
> >> $200 this way.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
> >> RSG-Wisconsin 2006 Report http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2006/pics/
> >> RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
> >
> > Hi Mike
> >
> > Thank you for your help with this I have contacted golfsmith and they
> > have told me that they will not sell any club components to me unless I
> > go on one of there cources as I am not a registered club builder. I
> > think this is stupid personally as they will not make any money off me
> > now as there cource cost over =A3700 to go on and thats before you take
> > into acount traveling and hotel accomodation. I was wondering if there
> > is anyone that would be willing to open a credit card account for me I
> > dont know if this can be done or not. I have not contacted golf works
> > as yet but that will be my next port of call.
>
> I've never heard of that. I never took one of their courses--I passed
> their accreditation exam, but not as a result of taking their course.
>
> They'll sell to you. All you have to do is call 'em up and order. :)
>
>
> >
> > Am I the only one that can see by not letting individuals open accounts
> > they must be losing a masive amount of revenue that this would
> > generate, I sappose they are concurned that if people realise you can
> > build your own clubs just as good as the =A3500 sets out there for a
> > fraction of the cost then they will boycot the main stream oem clubs,
> > but I dont see how this would effect golfsmiths revenue as before I
> > looked into club making I did not even know there brands existed!!
>
> As Matt said, try again.
>
> > I have been playing golf for over 8 months now and have never seen a
> > single snake eyes club or any othere make that golsmiths supplies.
> >
> > I would also be very interested to find any one that imports components
> > into the uk and maybe buy from them if the price was ok, I have seen
> > some parts on ebay i.e very few shafts and grips but no heads or
> > building equipment.
>
> It's also possible that Hireko--they bought out Dynacraft--might have
> something in Europe.
>
> I'm sure you'll be able to buy what you need. As you note, they're
> turning business away if not.
>
> Mike
>
> --
> Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
> RSG-Wisconsin 2006 Report http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2006/pics/
> RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Hi there
Been a while since been on this group thank you all for your replies, I
have contacted golfsmiths again about ordering some equipment and have
been told that I need to email them with the club builders / makers
cource that I have attended as they will only sell to trade I am rearly
getting hacked off with this do they not want my money or somthing!
I was wondering if there is anyone on this group that might be willing
for me to use there name as a refferance to them that I had attanded a
cource by them ?
This I feel id the only cource of direction left other than give this
up as a bad idea and continue to pay over inflated prices of OEM clubs.
Look forward to hearing from anyone who can help.
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 00:24:14
From: squelchy
Subject: Re: Need Help Please
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Mike Dalecki wrote:
> squelchy wrote:
> > Hi There
> >
> > Not posted to this group yet but found the information on here very
> > helpfull in my new hobby of golf, I have been playing now for over 8
> > months had some leasons and starting to get better.
> >
> > I am looking to upgrade some of my clubs as been using very cheap,
> > unfitting and not whats right for me (from what I can gather from
> > information gleaned off this site and otheres).
> >
> > I have always been into working with my hands and have reciently been
> > reading allot about building my own clubs but am finding it very hard
> > to find any shops or stockists of club building kit in the UK or even
> > Europe it all seems to come from the states and I dont rearly want to
> > have to get all the hastle of ordering and paying import taxes as am on
> > a buget is there anyware you can tell me that might help as I am very
> > interested to try this out?
> >
> > Also forgot to mention that my options are even more limited as I am
> > left handed and finding good left handed clubs is hard already.
> >
> > Thank you all for your help with this matter
> >
>
> Building clubs isn't rocket science--you can do it. And if you take
> some care, you can build clubs that will be as good as what you can get
> from OEM sources.
>
> One of the major component houses--Golfworks, Golfsmith, or similar--has
> a European presence, so you should be able to find components.
>
> I suggest a couple of things. First, make a wedge or something similar.
> One club, so you can get the basics down (gripping, preparing hosels
> for epoxy, and the like). It won't cost that much, and it'll help you
> model the entire process.
>
> Then, find some components you like (there are some pretty good lefty
> components out there). Choose shafts (something like True Temper Lite
> XL), and get a couple extra for sorting and matching (and possible
> mistakes :). Get some ferrules, and some grips, some epoxy, and you
> have most of what you need.
>
> Both Golfworks and Golfsmith offer a beginning kit for clubmaking at
> around $100 that's pretty good, so I'd look at that if I were you.
>
> You will find that this isn't hard, just that mostly we have no
> referents for it. And you can ask here for advice.
>
> You should be able to build a very nice set of irons (3-PW) for under
> $200 this way.
>
> Mike
>
> --
> Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
> RSG-Wisconsin 2006 Report http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2006/pics/
> RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Hi Mike
Thank you for your help with this I have contacted golfsmith and they
have told me that they will not sell any club components to me unless I
go on one of there cources as I am not a registered club builder. I
think this is stupid personally as they will not make any money off me
now as there cource cost over =A3700 to go on and thats before you take
into acount traveling and hotel accomodation. I was wondering if there
is anyone that would be willing to open a credit card account for me I
dont know if this can be done or not. I have not contacted golf works
as yet but that will be my next port of call.
Am I the only one that can see by not letting individuals open accounts
they must be losing a masive amount of revenue that this would
generate, I sappose they are concurned that if people realise you can
build your own clubs just as good as the =A3500 sets out there for a
fraction of the cost then they will boycot the main stream oem clubs,
but I dont see how this would effect golfsmiths revenue as before I
looked into club making I did not even know there brands existed!!
I have been playing golf for over 8 months now and have never seen a
single snake eyes club or any othere make that golsmiths supplies.
I would also be very interested to find any one that imports components
into the uk and maybe buy from them if the price was ok, I have seen
some parts on ebay i.e very few shafts and grips but no heads or
building equipment.
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 22:39:35
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: Need Help Please
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squelchy wrote:
> Mike Dalecki wrote:
>> squelchy wrote:
>>> Hi There
>>>
>>> Not posted to this group yet but found the information on here very
>>> helpfull in my new hobby of golf, I have been playing now for over 8
>>> months had some leasons and starting to get better.
>>>
>>> I am looking to upgrade some of my clubs as been using very cheap,
>>> unfitting and not whats right for me (from what I can gather from
>>> information gleaned off this site and otheres).
>>>
>>> I have always been into working with my hands and have reciently been
>>> reading allot about building my own clubs but am finding it very hard
>>> to find any shops or stockists of club building kit in the UK or even
>>> Europe it all seems to come from the states and I dont rearly want to
>>> have to get all the hastle of ordering and paying import taxes as am on
>>> a buget is there anyware you can tell me that might help as I am very
>>> interested to try this out?
>>>
>>> Also forgot to mention that my options are even more limited as I am
>>> left handed and finding good left handed clubs is hard already.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your help with this matter
>>>
>> Building clubs isn't rocket science--you can do it. And if you take
>> some care, you can build clubs that will be as good as what you can get
>> from OEM sources.
>>
>> One of the major component houses--Golfworks, Golfsmith, or similar--has
>> a European presence, so you should be able to find components.
>>
>> I suggest a couple of things. First, make a wedge or something similar.
>> One club, so you can get the basics down (gripping, preparing hosels
>> for epoxy, and the like). It won't cost that much, and it'll help you
>> model the entire process.
>>
>> Then, find some components you like (there are some pretty good lefty
>> components out there). Choose shafts (something like True Temper Lite
>> XL), and get a couple extra for sorting and matching (and possible
>> mistakes :). Get some ferrules, and some grips, some epoxy, and you
>> have most of what you need.
>>
>> Both Golfworks and Golfsmith offer a beginning kit for clubmaking at
>> around $100 that's pretty good, so I'd look at that if I were you.
>>
>> You will find that this isn't hard, just that mostly we have no
>> referents for it. And you can ask here for advice.
>>
>> You should be able to build a very nice set of irons (3-PW) for under
>> $200 this way.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> --
>> Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
>> RSG-Wisconsin 2006 Report http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2006/pics/
>> RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
>
> Hi Mike
>
> Thank you for your help with this I have contacted golfsmith and they
> have told me that they will not sell any club components to me unless I
> go on one of there cources as I am not a registered club builder. I
> think this is stupid personally as they will not make any money off me
> now as there cource cost over £700 to go on and thats before you take
> into acount traveling and hotel accomodation. I was wondering if there
> is anyone that would be willing to open a credit card account for me I
> dont know if this can be done or not. I have not contacted golf works
> as yet but that will be my next port of call.
I've never heard of that. I never took one of their courses--I passed
their accreditation exam, but not as a result of taking their course.
They'll sell to you. All you have to do is call 'em up and order. :)
>
> Am I the only one that can see by not letting individuals open accounts
> they must be losing a masive amount of revenue that this would
> generate, I sappose they are concurned that if people realise you can
> build your own clubs just as good as the £500 sets out there for a
> fraction of the cost then they will boycot the main stream oem clubs,
> but I dont see how this would effect golfsmiths revenue as before I
> looked into club making I did not even know there brands existed!!
As Matt said, try again.
> I have been playing golf for over 8 months now and have never seen a
> single snake eyes club or any othere make that golsmiths supplies.
>
> I would also be very interested to find any one that imports components
> into the uk and maybe buy from them if the price was ok, I have seen
> some parts on ebay i.e very few shafts and grips but no heads or
> building equipment.
It's also possible that Hireko--they bought out Dynacraft--might have
something in Europe.
I'm sure you'll be able to buy what you need. As you note, they're
turning business away if not.
Mike
--
Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2006 Report http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2006/pics/
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 10:40:30
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Re: Need Help Please
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I went to Golfsmith US and UK and both say that anyone can order from them.
I've order some components from Golfsmith US myself with no issues.
Quote from Golfsmith UK
"If you are not trade.
We still want your business and hope you enjoy looking through our website.
To order you need to check-out our Stockist Location for your nearest retail
golf shop or custom clubmaker, who will be pleased to deal with your order,
or call Golfsmith Europe on +44 (0) 1 480 308800 for assistance."
"squelchy" <mquelch@right4staff.com > wrote in message
news:1166689454.917653.57140@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
Hi Mike
Thank you for your help with this I have contacted golfsmith and they
have told me that they will not sell any club components to me unless I
go on one of there cources as I am not a registered club builder. I
think this is stupid personally as they will not make any money off me
now as there cource cost over £700 to go on and thats before you take
into acount traveling and hotel accomodation. I was wondering if there
is anyone that would be willing to open a credit card account for me I
dont know if this can be done or not. I have not contacted golf works
as yet but that will be my next port of call.
Am I the only one that can see by not letting individuals open accounts
they must be losing a masive amount of revenue that this would
generate, I sappose they are concurned that if people realise you can
build your own clubs just as good as the £500 sets out there for a
fraction of the cost then they will boycot the main stream oem clubs,
but I dont see how this would effect golfsmiths revenue as before I
looked into club making I did not even know there brands existed!!
I have been playing golf for over 8 months now and have never seen a
single snake eyes club or any othere make that golsmiths supplies.
I would also be very interested to find any one that imports components
into the uk and maybe buy from them if the price was ok, I have seen
some parts on ebay i.e very few shafts and grips but no heads or
building equipment.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 11:11:29
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: Need Help Please
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squelchy wrote:
> Hi There
>
> Not posted to this group yet but found the information on here very
> helpfull in my new hobby of golf, I have been playing now for over 8
> months had some leasons and starting to get better.
>
> I am looking to upgrade some of my clubs as been using very cheap,
> unfitting and not whats right for me (from what I can gather from
> information gleaned off this site and otheres).
>
> I have always been into working with my hands and have reciently been
> reading allot about building my own clubs but am finding it very hard
> to find any shops or stockists of club building kit in the UK or even
> Europe it all seems to come from the states and I dont rearly want to
> have to get all the hastle of ordering and paying import taxes as am on
> a buget is there anyware you can tell me that might help as I am very
> interested to try this out?
>
> Also forgot to mention that my options are even more limited as I am
> left handed and finding good left handed clubs is hard already.
>
> Thank you all for your help with this matter
>
Building clubs isn't rocket science--you can do it. And if you take
some care, you can build clubs that will be as good as what you can get
from OEM sources.
One of the major component houses--Golfworks, Golfsmith, or similar--has
a European presence, so you should be able to find components.
I suggest a couple of things. First, make a wedge or something similar.
One club, so you can get the basics down (gripping, preparing hosels
for epoxy, and the like). It won't cost that much, and it'll help you
model the entire process.
Then, find some components you like (there are some pretty good lefty
components out there). Choose shafts (something like True Temper Lite
XL), and get a couple extra for sorting and matching (and possible
mistakes :). Get some ferrules, and some grips, some epoxy, and you
have most of what you need.
Both Golfworks and Golfsmith offer a beginning kit for clubmaking at
around $100 that's pretty good, so I'd look at that if I were you.
You will find that this isn't hard, just that mostly we have no
referents for it. And you can ask here for advice.
You should be able to build a very nice set of irons (3-PW) for under
$200 this way.
Mike
--
Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2006 Report http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2006/pics/
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 09:56:35
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Need Help Please
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On 20 Dec 2006 05:24:56 -0800, "squelchy" <mquelch@right4staff.com >
wrote:
>Hi There
>
>Not posted to this group yet but found the information on here very
>helpfull in my new hobby of golf, I have been playing now for over 8
>months had some leasons and starting to get better.
>
>I am looking to upgrade some of my clubs as been using very cheap,
>unfitting and not whats right for me (from what I can gather from
>information gleaned off this site and otheres).
>
>I have always been into working with my hands and have reciently been
>reading allot about building my own clubs but am finding it very hard
>to find any shops or stockists of club building kit in the UK or even
>Europe it all seems to come from the states and I dont rearly want to
>have to get all the hastle of ordering and paying import taxes as am on
>a buget is there anyware you can tell me that might help as I am very
>interested to try this out?
>
>Also forgot to mention that my options are even more limited as I am
>left handed and finding good left handed clubs is hard already.
>
>Thank you all for your help with this matter
Squelchy,
There is another golf group -- uk.sport.golf -- that might be able to
better help you with your question.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 06:28:50
From: squelchy
Subject: Re: Need Help Please
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Miss Anne Thrope wrote:
> I thought for sure this post would end with,
>
> Thanks you very.
> Borat
I am actually dyslexic I do apologise for my spelling and punctuation
mistakes. I tend to use Microsoft word to correct this but did not
realise that sad people like you have nothing better to do than insult
people on this forum.
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 10:31:15
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Re: Need Help Please
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"squelchy" <mquelch@right4staff.com > wrote in message
news:1166624930.530918.94130@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I am actually dyslexic I do apologise for my spelling and punctuation
> mistakes. I tend to use Microsoft word to correct this but did not
> realise that sad people like you have nothing better to do than insult
> people on this forum.
Ignore the idiot that is Miss Anne Thrope.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 14:51:47
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Need Help Please
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"squelchy" <mquelch@right4staff.com > wrote in message
news:1166624930.530918.94130@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Miss Anne Thrope wrote:
> > I thought for sure this post would end with,
> >
> > Thanks you very.
> > Borat
>
> I am actually dyslexic I do apologise for my spelling and punctuation
> mistakes. I tend to use Microsoft word to correct this but did not
> realise that sad people like you have nothing better to do than insult
> people on this forum.
>
Squelchy, Miss Anne is the semi-official RSG gadfly (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadfly_(social) ). It is almost an honor to be
insulted by him/her.
dave
ps. Can't help you with non-US club building supplies - sorry.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 09:13:10
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Need Help Please
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I thought for sure this post would end with,
Thanks you very.
Borat
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