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Date: 12 Sep 2006 11:39:04
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Marking with a tee
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I don't understand king a ball with a tee or with a ball k tool,
unless it is just so you can adjust your ball and put it back.
If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
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Date: 15 Sep 2006 09:06:35
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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Crispin Roche wrote:
> On 13 Sep 2006 07:30:53 -0700, "oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com"
> <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote:
[snip]
> > Your first statement would seem to be a bit at odds
> >with the wide variety of items used for king. A dime,
> >maybe. Any of the other coins or medalions, not to
> >mention the buttons from the glove kinda thing will be
> >one heck of a deflector if hit. The flipside is that
> >hitting a tee would be one heck of a shot. They aren't
> >much wider than a twig. No where near a dime in
> >diameter.
>
> There's a putting drill which is meant to help with reading the line
> of putts which involves 2 tees. You make a "gate" with the tees about
> where you think the high point in your putt is and then putt through
> the "gate". Try it sometime and see how often you hit those twigs:-)
So, you're saying that if you aim for them you might actually hit
them. I agree. Now, in the case of a ker that you weren't aiming
at.........
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 07:30:53
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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Crispin Roche wrote:
[snip]
> True, but a ball can roll over a flat ker with little or no
> deflection from its path. A tee hit is a different story.
Your first statement would seem to be a bit at odds
with the wide variety of items used for king. A dime,
maybe. Any of the other coins or medalions, not to
mention the buttons from the glove kinda thing will be
one heck of a deflector if hit. The flipside is that
hitting a tee would be one heck of a shot. They aren't
much wider than a twig. No where near a dime in
diameter.
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Date: 14 Sep 2006 20:59:13
From: Crispin Roche
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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On 13 Sep 2006 07:30:53 -0700, "oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com"
<oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote:
>
>Crispin Roche wrote:
>[snip]
>> True, but a ball can roll over a flat ker with little or no
>> deflection from its path. A tee hit is a different story.
>
> Your first statement would seem to be a bit at odds
>with the wide variety of items used for king. A dime,
>maybe. Any of the other coins or medalions, not to
>mention the buttons from the glove kinda thing will be
>one heck of a deflector if hit. The flipside is that
>hitting a tee would be one heck of a shot. They aren't
>much wider than a twig. No where near a dime in
>diameter.
There's a putting drill which is meant to help with reading the line
of putts which involves 2 tees. You make a "gate" with the tees about
where you think the high point in your putt is and then putt through
the "gate". Try it sometime and see how often you hit those twigs:-)
Crispin Roche
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 05:29:21
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On 13 Sep 2006 04:53:19 -0700, "oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com"
> <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote:
>
> >> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
> >> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
> >
> > If your k is in someone's line, you should move it, whether it
> >is a tee or a coin. If it's not in someones line, then what difference
> >
> >does it make?
>
> The reason we pick up balls anywhere near the line is because balls
> don't always go where we aim. If the ball can be hit, so can the
> ker.
Exactly, so we also move the ker out of the way as well. At which
point it becomes pointless whether it's a tee or a coin. I've actually
got less of a chance of hitting a tee than a coin.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 05:27:57
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> I don't understand king a ball with a tee or with a ball k tool,
> unless it is just so you can adjust your ball and put it back.
>
> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
While I don't do it, here's a scenario. Your opponent's ball is 3 feet
off to the right or left of the hole. You're not going to hit it, but
would like it out of your view.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 13:28:55
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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On 13 Sep 2006 05:27:57 -0700, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
>> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
>
>While I don't do it, here's a scenario. Your opponent's ball is 3 feet
>off to the right or left of the hole. You're not going to hit it, but
>would like it out of your view.
There's no penalty for seeing a ball. If my ball is not close to
being in the line of the putt, I typically leave it lie. Picking up
every ball every time is beloved by slow players.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 04:53:19
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> I don't understand king a ball with a tee or with a ball k tool,
> unless it is just so you can adjust your ball and put it back.
>
> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
If your k is in someone's line, you should move it, whether it
is a tee or a coin. If it's not in someones line, then what difference
does it make?
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 12:03:34
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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On 13 Sep 2006 04:53:19 -0700, "oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com"
<oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote:
>> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
>> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
>
> If your k is in someone's line, you should move it, whether it
>is a tee or a coin. If it's not in someones line, then what difference
>
>does it make?
The reason we pick up balls anywhere near the line is because balls
don't always go where we aim. If the ball can be hit, so can the
ker.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 08:38:20
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On 13 Sep 2006 04:53:19 -0700, "oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com"
> <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote:
>
>>> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
>>> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
>> If your k is in someone's line, you should move it, whether it
>> is a tee or a coin. If it's not in someones line, then what difference
>>
>> does it make?
>
> The reason we pick up balls anywhere near the line is because balls
> don't always go where we aim. If the ball can be hit, so can the
> ker.
>
There is no penalty for having your k hit. Aside from the pain of
having your ball hit there is a penalty on you.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 13:51:27
From: Crispin Roche
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:38:20 -0400, Bert Robbins <screw@you.com >
wrote:
>Howard Brazee wrote:
>> On 13 Sep 2006 04:53:19 -0700, "oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com"
>> <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
>>>> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
>>> If your k is in someone's line, you should move it, whether it
>>> is a tee or a coin. If it's not in someones line, then what difference
>>>
>>> does it make?
>>
>> The reason we pick up balls anywhere near the line is because balls
>> don't always go where we aim. If the ball can be hit, so can the
>> ker.
>>
>
>There is no penalty for having your k hit. Aside from the pain of
>having your ball hit there is a penalty on you.
True, but a ball can roll over a flat ker with little or no
deflection from its path. A tee hit is a different story.
Crispin Roche
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Date: 12 Sep 2006 20:42:20
From: Tighthead
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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3putt wrote:
> >
> > Ahhh, you need one of those LPGA magnetic kers on a cap thing. ;)
>
> Then you end up with smudges on your cap.
And a yeast infection.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 01:24:07
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:a0sdg2de9e0rojodt8kiihnb4pfl3t8q0a@4ax.com...
>I don't understand king a ball with a tee or with a ball k tool,
> unless it is just so you can adjust your ball and put it back.
>
> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
You're right. A tee is handy if you want to realign and clean the ball.
But, since you have to have something flat anyway, why not use the flat
thing all the time?
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Date: 12 Sep 2006 18:31:35
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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jeffc wrote:
> "Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote in message
> news:a0sdg2de9e0rojodt8kiihnb4pfl3t8q0a@4ax.com...
>> I don't understand king a ball with a tee or with a ball k tool,
>> unless it is just so you can adjust your ball and put it back.
>>
>> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
>> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
>
> You're right. A tee is handy if you want to realign and clean the ball.
> But, since you have to have something flat anyway, why not use the flat
> thing all the time?
>
>
sometimes the flat one is hard to find in the pocket so I use a tee. If
I'm in someone's line I'll dig for the flat one
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 07:22:28
From: carl llewellyn
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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I've seen a tee used a few times. However, it has never been put in
anyones line.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 09:45:38
From: Shintaro
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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long&left wrote:
> jeffc wrote:
>
>> "Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote in message
>> news:a0sdg2de9e0rojodt8kiihnb4pfl3t8q0a@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I don't understand king a ball with a tee or with a ball k tool,
>>> unless it is just so you can adjust your ball and put it back.
>>>
>>> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
>>> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
>>
>>
>> You're right. A tee is handy if you want to realign and clean the
>> ball. But, since you have to have something flat anyway, why not use
>> the flat thing all the time?
>>
>
> sometimes the flat one is hard to find in the pocket so I use a tee. If
> I'm in someone's line I'll dig for the flat one
Ahhh, you need one of those LPGA magnetic kers on a cap thing. ;)
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 02:15:04
From: 3putt
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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>
> Ahhh, you need one of those LPGA magnetic kers on a cap thing. ;)
Then you end up with smudges on your cap.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 07:16:49
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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3putt wrote:
>> Ahhh, you need one of those LPGA magnetic kers on a cap thing. ;)
>
> Then you end up with smudges on your cap.
>
Just throw the cap into the washing machine when you get home, put some
soap in and turn it on. This gets rid of smudges and sweat stains at the
same time. And, you won't have to smell your smelly hat next time you
ear it.
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Date: 12 Sep 2006 19:38:07
From:
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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some guys get ticked at times when you ain't johnny on the spot, and use
an upright tee in a lateral fashion to k an arbitrary distance - for
you, tossing you, your ball.
I'll do my own ball "handling, just keepee de hands off.:--)
some jokers like to kick / pick up / roll around / punch a ball on the
fairway - just to see if it is theirs.
why don't they drop their balls in a jar of shoe polish - to color-code
them? that should make their nosy instincts - easier.
some so-called golfers are real yahoos.
and then there are those fixin' to putt, they make 3-4 dry swings each
time before putting, then reposition themselves over the ball, in 95=B0
weather while you cool your heels, and then miss the cup by 20".
jack nicklaus was a slow putter, but at least he was doing something
constructive - while the clock ticked.
do your putting / playing pals - bug you(?), or, are you one of them.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 11:32:29
From: Tranny
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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fiveiron@webtv.net wrote:
> some guys get ticked at times when you ain't johnny on the spot, and use
> an upright tee in a lateral fashion to k an arbitrary distance - for
> you, tossing you, your ball.
>
> I'll do my own ball "handling, just keepee de hands off.:--)
>
> some jokers like to kick / pick up / roll around / punch a ball on the
> fairway - just to see if it is theirs.
>
> why don't they drop their balls in a jar of shoe polish - to color-code
> them? that should make their nosy instincts - easier.
>
> some so-called golfers are real yahoos.
>
> and then there are those fixin' to putt, they make 3-4 dry swings each
> time before putting, then reposition themselves over the ball, in 95°
> weather while you cool your heels, and then miss the cup by 20".
>
> jack nicklaus was a slow putter, but at least he was doing something
> constructive - while the clock ticked.
>
> do your putting / playing pals - bug you(?), or, are you one of them.
OK, be fair - we aren't all privileged owners of the WOW putter.
tran
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Date: 12 Sep 2006 21:00:31
From: 3putt
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:a0sdg2de9e0rojodt8kiihnb4pfl3t8q0a@4ax.com...
>I don't understand king a ball with a tee or with a ball k tool,
> unless it is just so you can adjust your ball and put it back.
>
> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
>
So who's doing that? I k with a tee, so I can pick up and clean my ball.
Not so that I k the ball while someone is putting over it.
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Date: 12 Sep 2006 22:37:39
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:00:31 GMT, "3putt" <golf24/7@golfing.com >
wrote:
>> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
>> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
>>
>So who's doing that? I k with a tee, so I can pick up and clean my ball.
>Not so that I k the ball while someone is putting over it.
Someone I played with Friday was not the first person I have seen do
it.
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Date: 12 Sep 2006 23:13:45
From: 3putt
Subject: Re: Marking with a tee
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:hjdeg2dkcu91eimo6ugoomva6janc0q7nn@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:00:31 GMT, "3putt" <golf24/7@golfing.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> If a ball is ked so that it can be out of the way of someone else's
>>> putt, it should be replaced with something flat.
>>>
>>So who's doing that? I k with a tee, so I can pick up and clean my
>>ball.
>>Not so that I k the ball while someone is putting over it.
>
> Someone I played with Friday was not the first person I have seen do
> it.
I've seen it done, but not left in someone's line. It's like someone
leaving his $5 gold piece as a ker.
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