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Date: 04 Oct 2006 05:53:44
From: annika1980
Subject: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Must be Tex's hero.

This Foley thing just gets better each day.
First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
admits to being gay.
Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.

And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
blaming the Democrats.
Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
Can't he speak?

If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
sheets left to wipe your ass!
And that includes 2-ply.

Date: 07 Oct 2006 12:24:10
From: famous21
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Hello Bert:

Representative Foley may be gone, but the "multipier effect" as it
pertains to who covered for him after his activites were disclosed over
a year ago remains. The House Of Representatives would be remiss if
they did not investigate this matter fervently.

Peace is better than aggression,

Famous

Bert Robbins wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > Must be Tex's hero.
> >
> > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > admits to being gay.
> > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> >
> > And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> > blaming the Democrats.
> > Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> > story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> > friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> > Can't he speak?
> >
> > If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> > Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> > sheets left to wipe your ass!
> > And that includes 2-ply.
> >
>
> Foley is gone, the event is over except that the media needs something
> to fill air time until the next Democratic October surprise.

Date: 08 Oct 2006 09:43:17
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

famous21 wrote:
> Hello Bert:
>
> Representative Foley may be gone, but the "multipier effect" as it
> pertains to who covered for him after his activites were disclosed over
> a year ago remains. The House Of Representatives would be remiss if
> they did not investigate this matter fervently.

The investigation will not result in any actions that will prevent the
problem from reoccurring in the future. An investigation, a
Congressional investigation, is a vehicle used to assign blame for
political gain. The results of the Republican investigation will be to
have more oversight of the Page program. If the Democrats win the house
then they will blame former Speaker Hastert and former majority leader
Beohner and no other actions will occur. The investigation by the House
is a useless endeavor and a complete waste of time by either party.
However, if the FBI gets involved in the investigation then the
Democrats have more to worry about than the Republicans do. The mantra
what did the know and when did they know it will bite the Democrats in
the ass very hard. Pelosi's and Emanuel's reluctance to give testimony
under oath is very suspicious.

Date: 08 Oct 2006 12:55:15
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <lYKdnTteq8_onbTYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com >,
Bert Robbins <screw@you.com > wrote:

> famous21 wrote:
> > Hello Bert:
> >
> > Representative Foley may be gone, but the "multipier effect" as it
> > pertains to who covered for him after his activites were disclosed over
> > a year ago remains. The House Of Representatives would be remiss if
> > they did not investigate this matter fervently.
>
> The investigation will not result in any actions that will prevent the
> problem from reoccurring in the future. An investigation, a
> Congressional investigation, is a vehicle used to assign blame for
> political gain. The results of the Republican investigation will be to
> have more oversight of the Page program.

Seems to me it is not the Page program that requires oversight - it is
the members of the House, especially those on the GoP side. All this
fuss about what to do with the Page program, as though that is the
problem, is just so much blather in an attempt to deflect attention from
where it should be placed.

If the Democrats win the house
> then they will blame former Speaker Hastert and former majority leader
> Beohner and no other actions will occur. The investigation by the House
> is a useless endeavor and a complete waste of time by either party.
> However, if the FBI gets involved in the investigation then the
> Democrats have more to worry about than the Republicans do. The mantra
> what did the know and when did they know it will bite the Democrats in
> the ass very hard. Pelosi's and Emanuel's reluctance to give testimony
> under oath is very suspicious.

It is always amusing to see the neocons somehow manage to blame the
Democrats for their own catalogue of ethical and legal lapses. Still,
best to keep whistling in the dark.

William Clark

Date: 08 Oct 2006 19:31:02
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

William A. T. Clark wrote:
> In article <lYKdnTteq8_onbTYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Bert Robbins <screw@you.com> wrote:
>
>> famous21 wrote:
>>> Hello Bert:
>>>
>>> Representative Foley may be gone, but the "multipier effect" as it
>>> pertains to who covered for him after his activites were disclosed over
>>> a year ago remains. The House Of Representatives would be remiss if
>>> they did not investigate this matter fervently.
>> The investigation will not result in any actions that will prevent the
>> problem from reoccurring in the future. An investigation, a
>> Congressional investigation, is a vehicle used to assign blame for
>> political gain. The results of the Republican investigation will be to
>> have more oversight of the Page program.
>
> Seems to me it is not the Page program that requires oversight - it is
> the members of the House, especially those on the GoP side. All this
> fuss about what to do with the Page program, as though that is the
> problem, is just so much blather in an attempt to deflect attention from
> where it should be placed.

There are enough problems on both sides of the aisle that casting blame
on on side is a act of partisanship.

The voters of the various districts will have to solve the problem(s)
because the Representatives work for them and not anyone else.

> If the Democrats win the house
>> then they will blame former Speaker Hastert and former majority leader
>> Beohner and no other actions will occur. The investigation by the House
>> is a useless endeavor and a complete waste of time by either party.
>> However, if the FBI gets involved in the investigation then the
>> Democrats have more to worry about than the Republicans do. The mantra
>> what did the know and when did they know it will bite the Democrats in
>> the ass very hard. Pelosi's and Emanuel's reluctance to give testimony
>> under oath is very suspicious.
>
> It is always amusing to see the neocons somehow manage to blame the
> Democrats for their own catalogue of ethical and legal lapses. Still,
> best to keep whistling in the dark.

Who had $90,000 US in their freezer in frozen food containers? Where did
the money come from and who knew he had it and when did they know he had
it. Was Jefferson on the Commerce Committee? That would be ironic.

As I said earlier there is enough questionable activity occurring on
both sides of the aisle.

Date: 08 Oct 2006 20:07:27
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <TO6dnW_Rl5irF7TYnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com >,
Bert Robbins <screw@you.com > wrote:

> William A. T. Clark wrote:
> > In article <lYKdnTteq8_onbTYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com>,
> > Bert Robbins <screw@you.com> wrote:
> >
> >> famous21 wrote:
> >>> Hello Bert:
> >>>
> >>> Representative Foley may be gone, but the "multipier effect" as it
> >>> pertains to who covered for him after his activites were disclosed over
> >>> a year ago remains. The House Of Representatives would be remiss if
> >>> they did not investigate this matter fervently.
> >> The investigation will not result in any actions that will prevent the
> >> problem from reoccurring in the future. An investigation, a
> >> Congressional investigation, is a vehicle used to assign blame for
> >> political gain. The results of the Republican investigation will be to
> >> have more oversight of the Page program.
> >
> > Seems to me it is not the Page program that requires oversight - it is
> > the members of the House, especially those on the GoP side. All this
> > fuss about what to do with the Page program, as though that is the
> > problem, is just so much blather in an attempt to deflect attention from
> > where it should be placed.
>
> There are enough problems on both sides of the aisle that casting blame
> on on side is a act of partisanship.
>
> The voters of the various districts will have to solve the problem(s)
> because the Representatives work for them and not anyone else.
>
> > If the Democrats win the house
> >> then they will blame former Speaker Hastert and former majority leader
> >> Beohner and no other actions will occur. The investigation by the House
> >> is a useless endeavor and a complete waste of time by either party.
> >> However, if the FBI gets involved in the investigation then the
> >> Democrats have more to worry about than the Republicans do. The mantra
> >> what did the know and when did they know it will bite the Democrats in
> >> the ass very hard. Pelosi's and Emanuel's reluctance to give testimony
> >> under oath is very suspicious.
> >
> > It is always amusing to see the neocons somehow manage to blame the
> > Democrats for their own catalogue of ethical and legal lapses. Still,
> > best to keep whistling in the dark.
>
> Who had $90,000 US in their freezer in frozen food containers? Where did
> the money come from and who knew he had it and when did they know he had
> it. Was Jefferson on the Commerce Committee? That would be ironic.
>
> As I said earlier there is enough questionable activity occurring on
> both sides of the aisle.

Sorry, but that simply is not the case at present. In the past few years
the overwhelming majority of wrongdoing is coming from the right. That
is not to say that this has always been, or will remain, the case, but
the fact is that as much as the right tries to deny it, they are up to
the neck in it at present.

Whether the electorate will see it that way is the question - recent
polls say they do - so the GoP would be better advised to stop trying to
push blame off onto the Democrats, and take a firm and honest stand at
putting their own house in order.

William Clark

Date: 08 Oct 2006 18:04:35
From: Joe
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

William A. T. Clark wrote:
> In article <lYKdnTteq8_onbTYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Bert Robbins <screw@you.com> wrote:
>
>
>>famous21 wrote:
>>
>>>Hello Bert:
>>>

SNIP

>
> Seems to me it is not the Page program that requires oversight - it is
> the members of the House, especially those on the GoP side.

Billy, as an Engineer, you should understand something about
distributions. With a sample of one you indict the GOP?

Sorry, I forgot that your are not really an engineer, you are a "Dean".
An academic politico. Not really a whole lot different than Hastert
or Pelosi or Clinton for that matter.

All this
> fuss about what to do with the Page program, as though that is the
> problem, is just so much blather in an attempt to deflect attention from
> where it should be placed.
SNIP

>
> William Clark

Joe

Date: 08 Oct 2006 16:30:29
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <T4bWg.1017$Ct3.664@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com >,
Joe <joehnospam@ospamwarwick.net > wrote:

> William A. T. Clark wrote:
> > In article <lYKdnTteq8_onbTYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com>,
> > Bert Robbins <screw@you.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>famous21 wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello Bert:
> >>>
>
> SNIP
>
> >
> > Seems to me it is not the Page program that requires oversight - it is
> > the members of the House, especially those on the GoP side.
>
> Billy, as an Engineer, you should understand something about
> distributions. With a sample of one you indict the GOP?

Well, let's see, we have lost one Speaker of the House, one Leader of
the House, we have another Speaker in trouble, then there is the
Congressman in the middle of this mess, then we have two other
Congressmen who have already pleaded guilty in criminal cases, and we
have the Abramoff mess getting closer and closer to the White House by
the day.

More than a sample of one, I would say.

>
> Sorry, I forgot that your are not really an engineer, you are a "Dean".
> An academic politico. Not really a whole lot different than Hastert
> or Pelosi or Clinton for that matter.

Aaaah, when in doubt, try the familiar Rove-ian sneer. Sorry, it doesn't
work any more.

William Clark

Date: 08 Oct 2006 20:44:28
From: Joe
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

William A. T. Clark wrote:
> In article <T4bWg.1017$Ct3.664@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
> Joe <joehnospam@ospamwarwick.net> wrote:
>
>
>>William A. T. Clark wrote:
>>
>>>In article <lYKdnTteq8_onbTYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>> Bert Robbins <screw@you.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>famous21 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello Bert:
>>>>>
>>
>>SNIP
>>
>>
>>>Seems to me it is not the Page program that requires oversight - it is
>>>the members of the House, especially those on the GoP side.
>>
>>Billy, as an Engineer, you should understand something about
>>distributions. With a sample of one you indict the GOP?
>
>
> Well, let's see, we have lost one Speaker of the House, one Leader of
> the House, we have another Speaker in trouble, then there is the
> Congressman in the middle of this mess, then we have two other
> Congressmen who have already pleaded guilty in criminal cases, and we
> have the Abramoff mess getting closer and closer to the White House by
> the day.
>
> More than a sample of one, I would say.
>

Just as I noted, purely a political response. I called you on your
statement regarding the "Page" program so you attempt to shift the debate.
>
>>Sorry, I forgot that your are not really an engineer, you are a "Dean".
>> An academic politico. Not really a whole lot different than Hastert
>>or Pelosi or Clinton for that matter.
>
>
> Aaaah, when in doubt, try the familiar Rove-ian sneer. Sorry, it doesn't
> work any more.

Are you saying that your are not an academic politico? That you really
are a practicing engineer? And that was supposed to be "smear" I assume?

>
> William Clark

Date: 08 Oct 2006 17:42:10
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <MqdWg.662$FV6.519@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com >,
Joe <joehnospam@ospamwarwick.net > wrote:

> William A. T. Clark wrote:
> > In article <T4bWg.1017$Ct3.664@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
> > Joe <joehnospam@ospamwarwick.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>William A. T. Clark wrote:
> >>
> >>>In article <lYKdnTteq8_onbTYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com>,
> >>> Bert Robbins <screw@you.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>famous21 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hello Bert:
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>SNIP
> >>
> >>
> >>>Seems to me it is not the Page program that requires oversight - it is
> >>>the members of the House, especially those on the GoP side.
> >>
> >>Billy, as an Engineer, you should understand something about
> >>distributions. With a sample of one you indict the GOP?
> >
> >
> > Well, let's see, we have lost one Speaker of the House, one Leader of
> > the House, we have another Speaker in trouble, then there is the
> > Congressman in the middle of this mess, then we have two other
> > Congressmen who have already pleaded guilty in criminal cases, and we
> > have the Abramoff mess getting closer and closer to the White House by
> > the day.
> >
> > More than a sample of one, I would say.
> >
>
> Just as I noted, purely a political response. I called you on your
> statement regarding the "Page" program so you attempt to shift the debate.

Nonsense - you questioned my characterization of your GoP Congressman
friends, and I gave you a sheaf of additional examples of why it was not
the Page program that was the problem. Now you want to shift the goal
posts. How typical.

> >
> >>Sorry, I forgot that your are not really an engineer, you are a "Dean".
> >> An academic politico. Not really a whole lot different than Hastert
> >>or Pelosi or Clinton for that matter.

Very clever, but I am a fully licensed Chartered Engineer, have had
several million dollars in research funds, and can directly image atomic
arrangements in materials.

You?

Like I said, nice try, but pathetically lame.

> >
> >
> > Aaaah, when in doubt, try the familiar Rove-ian sneer. Sorry, it doesn't
> > work any more.
>
> Are you saying that your are not an academic politico? That you really
> are a practicing engineer? And that was supposed to be "smear" I assume?

No I am not what you condescendingly call "an academic politico"
(whatever that is). Actually I never was, but since you obviously have
absolutely no knowledge of the workings of a university, it doesn't
surprise me that you think so.

William Clark

Date: 09 Oct 2006 00:39:22
From: Joe
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

William A. T. Clark wrote:
> In article <MqdWg.662$FV6.519@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
> Joe <joehnospam@ospamwarwick.net> wrote:
>
>
>>William A. T. Clark wrote:
>>
>>>In article <T4bWg.1017$Ct3.664@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
>>> Joe <joehnospam@ospamwarwick.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>William A. T. Clark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <lYKdnTteq8_onbTYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>>>>Bert Robbins <screw@you.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>famous21 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello Bert:
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>SNIP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Seems to me it is not the Page program that requires oversight - it is
>>>>>the members of the House, especially those on the GoP side.
>>>>
>>>>Billy, as an Engineer, you should understand something about
>>>>distributions. With a sample of one you indict the GOP?
>>>
>>>
>>>Well, let's see, we have lost one Speaker of the House, one Leader of
>>>the House, we have another Speaker in trouble, then there is the
>>>Congressman in the middle of this mess, then we have two other
>>>Congressmen who have already pleaded guilty in criminal cases, and we
>>>have the Abramoff mess getting closer and closer to the White House by
>>>the day.
>>>
>>>More than a sample of one, I would say.
>>>
>>
>>Just as I noted, purely a political response. I called you on your
>>statement regarding the "Page" program so you attempt to shift the debate.
>
>
> Nonsense - you questioned my characterization of your GoP Congressman
> friends, and I gave you a sheaf of additional examples of why it was not
> the Page program that was the problem. Now you want to shift the goal
> posts. How typical.

Why do you assume that they are my "GoP friends". You have no
knowledge of my party affiliation, if any. Nice move though.

>>>>Sorry, I forgot that your are not really an engineer, you are a "Dean".
>>>> An academic politico. Not really a whole lot different than Hastert
>>>>or Pelosi or Clinton for that matter.
>
>
> Very clever, but I am a fully licensed Chartered Engineer, have had
> several million dollars in research funds, and can directly image atomic
> arrangements in materials.
>
> You?
>
> Like I said, nice try, but pathetically lame.

Quite right. I certainly can't image atomic arrangements in materials.
That is the old grade school, mine is bigger than yours bit.

Of course that wasn't the issue, was it Billy?

As to what I do, well I am far more likely to hire someone like you.
Well, not exactly like you.

>>>
>>>Aaaah, when in doubt, try the familiar Rove-ian sneer. Sorry, it doesn't
>>>work any more.
>>
>>Are you saying that your are not an academic politico? That you really
>>are a practicing engineer? And that was supposed to be "smear" I assume?
>
>
> No I am not what you condescendingly call "an academic politico"
> (whatever that is). Actually I never was, but since you obviously have
> absolutely no knowledge of the workings of a university, it doesn't
> surprise me that you think so.

Are you really sure about that?
>
> William Clark

One last question for you. Why are you posting in this group. Other
that a segue into music and a half assed bit about a few trees what
contribution to the group have you made? What golf content discussion
have you ever participated in? You even fumbled the invitation to RSG
Cincy.

Joe

Date: 09 Oct 2006 07:01:12
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <_SgWg.1032$Ct3.932@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com >,
Joe <joehnospam@ospamwarwick.net > wrote:

> William A. T. Clark wrote:
> > In article <MqdWg.662$FV6.519@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
> > Joe <joehnospam@ospamwarwick.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>William A. T. Clark wrote:
> >>
> >>>In article <T4bWg.1017$Ct3.664@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
> >>> Joe <joehnospam@ospamwarwick.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>William A. T. Clark wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>In article <lYKdnTteq8_onbTYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com>,
> >>>>>Bert Robbins <screw@you.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>famous21 wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hello Bert:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>SNIP
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Seems to me it is not the Page program that requires oversight - it is
> >>>>>the members of the House, especially those on the GoP side.
> >>>>
> >>>>Billy, as an Engineer, you should understand something about
> >>>>distributions. With a sample of one you indict the GOP?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Well, let's see, we have lost one Speaker of the House, one Leader of
> >>>the House, we have another Speaker in trouble, then there is the
> >>>Congressman in the middle of this mess, then we have two other
> >>>Congressmen who have already pleaded guilty in criminal cases, and we
> >>>have the Abramoff mess getting closer and closer to the White House by
> >>>the day.
> >>>
> >>>More than a sample of one, I would say.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Just as I noted, purely a political response. I called you on your
> >>statement regarding the "Page" program so you attempt to shift the debate.
> >
> >
> > Nonsense - you questioned my characterization of your GoP Congressman
> > friends, and I gave you a sheaf of additional examples of why it was not
> > the Page program that was the problem. Now you want to shift the goal
> > posts. How typical.
>
> Why do you assume that they are my "GoP friends". You have no
> knowledge of my party affiliation, if any. Nice move though.

It's blatantly obvious to anyone who has followed this thread.
>
>
> >>>>Sorry, I forgot that your are not really an engineer, you are a "Dean".
> >>>> An academic politico. Not really a whole lot different than Hastert
> >>>>or Pelosi or Clinton for that matter.
> >
> >
> > Very clever, but I am a fully licensed Chartered Engineer, have had
> > several million dollars in research funds, and can directly image atomic
> > arrangements in materials.
> >
> > You?
> >
> > Like I said, nice try, but pathetically lame.
>
> Quite right. I certainly can't image atomic arrangements in materials.
> That is the old grade school, mine is bigger than yours bit.

You posed the question, I gave you the answer. Obviously not the one you
wanted, so you try to move the goal posts yet again. So what is your
contribution to the human race?

>
> Of course that wasn't the issue, was it Billy?
>
> As to what I do, well I am far more likely to hire someone like you.
> Well, not exactly like you.

You couldn't begin to afford me, so don't fret about it.

>
>
> >>>
> >>>Aaaah, when in doubt, try the familiar Rove-ian sneer. Sorry, it doesn't
> >>>work any more.
> >>
> >>Are you saying that your are not an academic politico? That you really
> >>are a practicing engineer? And that was supposed to be "smear" I assume?
> >
> >
> > No I am not what you condescendingly call "an academic politico"
> > (whatever that is). Actually I never was, but since you obviously have
> > absolutely no knowledge of the workings of a university, it doesn't
> > surprise me that you think so.
>
> Are you really sure about that?

Very confident - it shows in every line.
> >
> > William Clark
>
> One last question for you. Why are you posting in this group. Other
> that a segue into music and a half assed bit about a few trees what
> contribution to the group have you made? What golf content discussion
> have you ever participated in? You even fumbled the invitation to RSG
> Cincy.
>
> Joe

So you are the self-appointed moderator of RSG, are you? I think that
job should fall to someone who is at least remotely qualified. This
entire posting of yours is simply childish.

William Clark

Date: 08 Oct 2006 13:28:38
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Remind me who the Republicans blamed for Gerry Studds?

"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@osu.edu > wrote in message
news:clark.31-C8B111.12551508102006@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> It is always amusing to see the neocons somehow manage to blame the
> Democrats for their own catalogue of ethical and legal lapses. Still,
> best to keep whistling in the dark.
>
> William Clark

Date: 08 Oct 2006 16:33:38
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <hvGdndEThb_YqLTYnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com >,
"sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote:

> Remind me who the Republicans blamed for Gerry Studds?
>
> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@osu.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark.31-C8B111.12551508102006@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >
> > It is always amusing to see the neocons somehow manage to blame the
> > Democrats for their own catalogue of ethical and legal lapses. Still,
> > best to keep whistling in the dark.
> >
> > William Clark

Doesn't seem to me that too many Democrats blamed the GoP in the Studds
case, unlike the Republicans in the present one. 420-3? Pretty clear
evidence, I would say.

William Clark

Date: 05 Oct 2006 17:02:10
From: Big_Fan
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Date: 05 Oct 2006 16:36:33
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

MnMikew wrote:
> Yes. And how long did ABC sit on this? No media bias?

ABC? You blamin the "liberal media" again?
Is that the same ABC who aired that bogus "docudrama" full of lies
about Clinton? You mean, THAT ABC?

The question you should be asking is, "Why did Dennis Hastert sit on
this for so long?"

You know me and old Dennis have something in common.
We're both fat and by the end of next week, neither of us will be
Speaker of the House.

Date: 09 Oct 2006 12:27:39
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1160091393.326563.216090@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> MnMikew wrote:
>> Yes. And how long did ABC sit on this? No media bias?
>
> ABC? You blamin the "liberal media" again?
> Is that the same ABC who aired that bogus "docudrama" full of lies
> about Clinton? You mean, THAT ABC?

I blame Foley, period.

>
> The question you should be asking is, "Why did Dennis Hastert sit on
> this for so long?"

Seems Foley may have been doing this since 2000. It's Clintons fault then.
:-)

Date: 10 Oct 2006 00:27:05
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:27:39 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com >
wrote:

>Seems Foley may have been doing this since 2000. It's Clintons fault then.
>:-)

I heard the radio show "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" this weekend. The
host mentioned how 9 years ago when the show started, they wondered if
they would get material for a comedic news show - and a week later
Monica was a Godsend. This week he felt doubly blessed.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 13:30:44
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

joeuhc@yahoo.com wrote:
> So you are saying gay child predators are less guilty than a hetero man
> having an affair because the gay "can do nothing about his
> inclinations"?
No, I=B4m not saying that. Neither can a heterosexual man do anything
about his inclinations. I was answering a particular comment. You
didn=B4t notice the connection. But never mind. F

Date: 05 Oct 2006 17:33:30
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <1160080244.737956.104630@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com >,
"Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote:

> joeuhc@yahoo.com wrote:
> > So you are saying gay child predators are less guilty than a hetero man
> > having an affair because the gay "can do nothing about his
> > inclinations"?
> No, I�m not saying that. Neither can a heterosexual man do anything
> about his inclinations. I was answering a particular comment. You
> didn�t notice the connection. But never mind. F

Actually, forget all that blather. He is simply trying to find ways to
let his fellow neocons off the hook.

William Clark

Date: 05 Oct 2006 12:55:11
From:
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

>As a Catholic I was raised in the belief that
>homosexuality was sin, but as a senior I have learned that it is all in
>the genes. A homosexual can do nothing about his inclinations, no more
>than a black is responsible for the color of his skin.

So you are saying gay child predators are less guilty than a hetero man
having an affair because the gay "can do nothing about his
inclinations"?

Date: 05 Oct 2006 11:22:30
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

John B. wrote:
> MnMikew wrote:
> > "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
> > news:ftidnSYHD79HyrnYnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > > annika1980 wrote:
> > >> Must be Tex's hero.
> > >>
> > >> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > >> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > >> admits to being gay.
> > >> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> > >>
> > >> And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> > >> blaming the Democrats.
> > >> Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> > >> story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> > >> friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> > >> Can't he speak?
> > >>
> > >> If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> > >> Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> > >> sheets left to wipe your ass! And that includes 2-ply.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Foley is gone, the event is over except that the media needs something to
> > > fill air time until the next Democratic October surprise.
> >
> > Yes. And how long did ABC sit on this? No media bias?
>
> They sat on it until they had it nailed down. You can't put a story
> like that on the air unless its absolutely air-tight. Look what
> happened to Dan Rather and CBS.

Wasn't it "air-tight" when a Florida newspaper investigated it last
Fall and came away with it being a non-issue??

Oh wait, they didn't have access to the newly released super secret
IM's....

Maybe we should claim all the terrorists are sending IM's to kids so
that the Democrats will allow warrantless searches of their computers
:)

Tex

Date: 05 Oct 2006 09:44:07
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Bert Robbins wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > Must be Tex's hero.
> >
> > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > admits to being gay.
> > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> >
> > And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> > blaming the Democrats.
> > Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> > story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> > friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> > Can't he speak?
> >
> > If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> > Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> > sheets left to wipe your ass!
> > And that includes 2-ply.
> >
>
> Foley is gone, the event is over except that the media needs something
> to fill air time until the next Democratic October surprise.

You wish it was over. It's a long way from being over.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 09:42:47
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

MnMikew wrote:
> "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
> news:ftidnSYHD79HyrnYnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > annika1980 wrote:
> >> Must be Tex's hero.
> >>
> >> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> >> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> >> admits to being gay.
> >> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> >>
> >> And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> >> blaming the Democrats.
> >> Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> >> story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> >> friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> >> Can't he speak?
> >>
> >> If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> >> Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> >> sheets left to wipe your ass! And that includes 2-ply.
> >>
> >
> > Foley is gone, the event is over except that the media needs something to
> > fill air time until the next Democratic October surprise.
>
> Yes. And how long did ABC sit on this? No media bias?

They sat on it until they had it nailed down. You can't put a story
like that on the air unless its absolutely air-tight. Look what
happened to Dan Rather and CBS.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 13:22:23
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1160066567.310918.280720@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> MnMikew wrote:
>> "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
>> news:ftidnSYHD79HyrnYnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > annika1980 wrote:
>> >> Must be Tex's hero.
>> >>
>> >> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
>> >> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now
>> >> he
>> >> admits to being gay.
>> >> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
>> >>
>> >> And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
>> >> blaming the Democrats.
>> >> Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
>> >> story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
>> >> friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
>> >> Can't he speak?
>> >>
>> >> If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
>> >> Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
>> >> sheets left to wipe your ass! And that includes 2-ply.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Foley is gone, the event is over except that the media needs something
>> > to
>> > fill air time until the next Democratic October surprise.
>>
>> Yes. And how long did ABC sit on this? No media bias?
>
> They sat on it until they had it nailed down. You can't put a story
> like that on the air unless its absolutely air-tight. Look what
> happened to Dan Rather and CBS.

Perhaps. But it does seem a bit fishy with the timing..

Date: 04 Oct 2006 23:53:41
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Fairway wrote:
> And by the way -
> I would much prefer the company of a gay Republican than a heterosexual
> commie/liberal/democrat. F

That's because you suck cock by choice.

BTW, it's "gay alcoholic Republican pedophile."

Date: 04 Oct 2006 18:03:01
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

William A. T. Clark wrote:
> In article <1159999179.561118.81360@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Your beloved Democratic president Bill Clinton made the kids give him a
> > blow job. You condoned that, remember? Foley, poor devil, was only
> > sending some silly e-mails, it seems. And by the way - fuck you too. F
>
> Sorry, pal, but while not condonable, it was NOT with a minor, but
> someone deemed old enough to know their own mind.
>
> And he was at least heterosexual, for God's sake! Your values are as
> sick and twisted as your party's.

What the hell are you blabbering about? It=B4s not my party since I=B4m
not American - and it=B4s not my values either. It was stupid and
tasteless of president Blow-job to fuck Monica but it was no crime. It
was stupid and tasteless of Foley to mess with those kids but as far as
I know he didn=B4t fuck them. He didn=B4t molest them. That makes hell of
a difference. As a Catholic I was raised in the belief that
homosexuality was sin, but as a senior I have learned that it is all in
the genes. A homosexual can do nothing about his inclinations, no more
than a black is responsible for the color of his skin. Life must have
been very difficult for Foley. So, let=B4s forgive him. And by the way -
I would much prefer the company of a gay Republican than a heterosexual
commie/liberal/democrat. F

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:40:11
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

On 4 Oct 2006 18:03:01 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote:

>I would much prefer the company of a gay Republican than a heterosexual
>commie/liberal/democrat. F

Surprise, surprise.
--
___,
\o

Date: 05 Oct 2006 02:06:17
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote:
: On 4 Oct 2006 18:03:01 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote:
:
:
: >I would much prefer the company of a gay Republican than a heterosexual
: >commie/liberal/democrat. F
:
: Surprise, surprise.

Ahem. I seem to remember a certain agreement we had awhile
back...

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/

Date: 05 Oct 2006 02:39:47
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 09:30:37 -0700, Tex wrote:

> And now why did they "appear" with less than 40 days to go before the
> election?

Are you trying to suggest that the timing lessens Foley's crimes? Or just
that you'd rather this pervert not get caught until after the election?
Keep the kids in harms way for another month or two. You know, for
convenience. Because that's what the Republicans have been doing for the
last year, and I have to tell you it's not going over very well.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:54:50
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Date: 05 Oct 2006 11:03:10
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com > wrote in message
news:ftidnSYHD79HyrnYnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> annika1980 wrote:
>> Must be Tex's hero.
>>
>> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
>> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
>> admits to being gay.
>> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
>>
>> And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
>> blaming the Democrats.
>> Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
>> story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
>> friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
>> Can't he speak?
>>
>> If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
>> Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
>> sheets left to wipe your ass! And that includes 2-ply.
>>
>
> Foley is gone, the event is over except that the media needs something to
> fill air time until the next Democratic October surprise.

Yes. And how long did ABC sit on this? No media bias?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:59:39
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

John B. wrote:
> Homosexual predation against minors is "a minor issue" in Europe? This
> 52-year-old guy, a member of Congress, was exchanging sexually explicit
> e-mails with teenage boys and trying to entice them into having sex
> with him. If you see that as a minor issue, then fuck you and fuck
> everything you stand for.
Your beloved Democratic president Bill Clinton made the kids give him a
blow job. You condoned that, remember? Foley, poor devil, was only
sending some silly e-mails, it seems. And by the way - fuck you too. F

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:48:22
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <1159999179.561118.81360@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
"Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote:

> John B. wrote:
> > Homosexual predation against minors is "a minor issue" in Europe? This
> > 52-year-old guy, a member of Congress, was exchanging sexually explicit
> > e-mails with teenage boys and trying to entice them into having sex
> > with him. If you see that as a minor issue, then fuck you and fuck
> > everything you stand for.
> Your beloved Democratic president Bill Clinton made the kids give him a
> blow job. You condoned that, remember? Foley, poor devil, was only
> sending some silly e-mails, it seems. And by the way - fuck you too. F

Sorry, pal, but while not condonable, it was NOT with a minor, but
someone deemed old enough to know their own mind.

And he was at least heterosexual, for God's sake! Your values are as
sick and twisted as your party's.

William Clark

Date: 05 Oct 2006 00:36:59
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:48:22 -0400, "William A. T. Clark"
<clark.31@osu.edu > wrote:

>And he was at least heterosexual, for God's sake!
>
>William Clark

Are you implying that heterosexual indiscretions are more forgivable
than homosexual indiscretions?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:50:07
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Fairway wrote:
> jeffc wrote:
> > No, that's the whole point. Right wingers and left wingers are both ca=
ught
> > in scandals, but the right wingers are the biggest hypocrites. Right
> > wingers go off on some drug crackdown as if on some holy crusade, then =
get
> > caught with crack. Left wingers just get caught with the crack. Get it
> > yet?
> Right wingers know right from wrong, which the bloody commies do not.
> Any human being will do wrong now and then. And we must learn to
> forgive. By the way - how serious was this Foley business? I=B4m in
> Europe and here it is considered a minor issue and we don=B4t hear much
> about it. Did he fuck the kids or was it only some cheeky cell phone
> messages? From what I=B4ve seen on TV it was a trivial affair but I may
> be wrong. F

Homosexual predation against minors is "a minor issue" in Europe? This
52-year-old guy, a member of Congress, was exchanging sexually explicit
e-mails with teenage boys and trying to entice them into having sex
with him. If you see that as a minor issue, then fuck you and fuck
everything you stand for.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:38:04
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

jeffc wrote:
> No, that's the whole point. Right wingers and left wingers are both caug=
ht
> in scandals, but the right wingers are the biggest hypocrites. Right
> wingers go off on some drug crackdown as if on some holy crusade, then get
> caught with crack. Left wingers just get caught with the crack. Get it
> yet?
Right wingers know right from wrong, which the bloody commies do not.
Any human being will do wrong now and then. And we must learn to
forgive. By the way - how serious was this Foley business? I=B4m in
Europe and here it is considered a minor issue and we don=B4t hear much
about it. Did he fuck the kids or was it only some cheeky cell phone
messages? From what I=B4ve seen on TV it was a trivial affair but I may
be wrong. F

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:46:19
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <1159997884.908333.162740@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote:

> jeffc wrote:
> > No, that's the whole point. Right wingers and left wingers are both caught
> > in scandals, but the right wingers are the biggest hypocrites. Right
> > wingers go off on some drug crackdown as if on some holy crusade, then get
> > caught with crack. Left wingers just get caught with the crack. Get it
> > yet?
> Right wingers know right from wrong, which the bloody commies do not.
> Any human being will do wrong now and then. And we must learn to
> forgive. By the way - how serious was this Foley business? I�m in
> Europe and here it is considered a minor issue and we don�t hear much
> about it. Did he fuck the kids or was it only some cheeky cell phone
> messages? From what I�ve seen on TV it was a trivial affair but I may
> be wrong. F

They certainly do - since they are continually caught on the wrong side
of the law. Of course, propositioning young schoolboys is a trivial
issue in the GoP lexicon, especially for a gay Congressman, protected by
a bunch of gay aides.

How very Republican! What ever happened to family values?

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 12:05:33
From: famous21
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Good Afternoon One, Good Afernoon All:

Correct me if I am error, but was it Representative Foley who preached
the virtues of family values, and supported anti-pediphile (sp)
legislation...........at the same time was engaged in his legislation's
anti-activities. There is no excuse for this.

Peace is better than aggression,

Famous

________________________________________________________________________

JJVP wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > Must be Tex's hero.
> >
> > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > admits to being gay.
> > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> >
> > And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> > blaming the Democrats.
> > Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> > story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> > friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> > Can't he speak?
> >
> > If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> > Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> > sheets left to wipe your ass!
> > And that includes 2-ply.
>
> And that is still about 10% of the scandals for Democrats. Remember the
> Clinton years. 2-3 scandals per week. Typical DemocraT. Remember your
> boy Billy Bob"I did not have sex with that woman" Clinton. Remember
> Barney Franks pimping gay sex from his house? Yet he refused to resign
> and the Dems refused to expel him. How about Mel Reynolds? Remember
> him. An ex-congressman who had sex with a subordinate, won clemency
> from a president who had sex with a subordinate then was hired by a
> clergyman who had sex with a subordinate. His new job? .....Youth
> counselor.
>
> JJVP

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:34:49
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

MnMikew wrote:
> "the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com> wrote in message
> news:GPadnbD9ufsbVr7YnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@centurytel.net...
> >
> > "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1159966424.212809.28290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >> Must be Tex's hero.
> >>
> >> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> >> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> >> admits to being gay.
> >> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> >>
> >> And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> >> blaming the Democrats.
> >> Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> >> story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> >> friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> >> Can't he speak?
> >>
> >> If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> >> Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> >> sheets left to wipe your ass!
> >> And that includes 2-ply.
> >
> > It is interesting how differently the two parties handle scandals. The
> > Republicans kick them out. The Democrats excuse their behavior.
> >
> > Foley was removed and his list of excuses are despicable. He should be
> > punished in accordance with whatever crimes he has committed. The
> > Democrats
> > jump right on the conspiracy train and want to blame all the Republicans
> > instead of Foley. No evidence, just throw out a bunch of lies and see
> > what
> > sticks. Incredible.
> >
> >
> Not really incredible, buy typical. Their desperation mounts.

Desperation? The only desperation I see is Hastert and Boehner trying
to survive this debacle. Oh, and the Republicans trying not to lose
both houses of Congresss next month. And Foley trying to keep from
being indicted. You know, if Hastert and Boehner are forced to resign,
that will mean that two consecutive GOP House Speakers (Gingrich and
Hastert) and two consecutive GOP Majority Leaders (DeLay and Gingrich)
have had to resign in disgrace. And you're saying the Democrats are
desperate? Intersting.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:52:30
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159986889.136685.143990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Desperation? The only desperation I see is Hastert and Boehner trying
> to survive this debacle. Oh, and the Republicans trying not to lose
> both houses of Congresss next month. And Foley trying to keep from
> being indicted. You know, if Hastert and Boehner are forced to resign,
> that will mean that two consecutive GOP House Speakers (Gingrich and
> Hastert) and two consecutive GOP Majority Leaders (DeLay and Gingrich)
> have had to resign in disgrace. And you're saying the Democrats are
> desperate? Intersting.

No, what we are saying is that Democrats do not resign when they are
disgraced.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:01:40
From:
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

unlike anyother politican right !!
they are all a bunch of jerks'
what happend to the citizan politican
dean that's happen to him/her
slick willie right?

Larry Bud wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > Must be Tex's hero.
> >
> > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > admits to being gay.
> > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
>
> Yeah, he should have either picked up a gay hooker and denied it, or
> wagged his finger in front of millions saying "I did not text message
> that boy... the page", because we all know THAT's taking
> responsibility.
>
> Foley should be a poster child for the liberals now. He's gay, he's
> makes the Church look bad, and he pounds the booze.
>
> At least he resigned.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:59:48
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Tex wrote:
> Isn't it odd that the other Party that points the finger all time has
> also been caught with that same finger up young
> boys/girls/pages/interns as well, but usually denies, denies, denies
> until they finally admit it, run to apologize, hide in rehab and then
> just show up later pointing the same finger again.
>
> In otherwords, they are all a bunch of fucking hypocrits!
Unfortunately you are right. And this is what I like least (or dislike
the most!) about the commies. Loathsome hypocrites, full of envy and
hate - and they create so little, contribute so little of value to
humanity. The world would be such a fantastic place without them.
Perhaps, in the future, a brilliant scientist will design a virus which
only infects commies! As to denying facts - Clinton denied as long as
he could. F

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:31:02
From: David
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

On 4 Oct 2006 09:59:48 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote:

>
>Tex wrote:
>> Isn't it odd that the other Party that points the finger all time has
>> also been caught with that same finger up young
>> boys/girls/pages/interns as well, but usually denies, denies, denies
>> until they finally admit it, run to apologize, hide in rehab and then
>> just show up later pointing the same finger again.
>>
>> In otherwords, they are all a bunch of fucking hypocrits!
>Unfortunately you are right. And this is what I like least (or dislike
>the most!) about the commies. Loathsome hypocrites, full of envy and
>hate - and they create so little, contribute so little of value to
>humanity. The world would be such a fantastic place without them.
>Perhaps, in the future, a brilliant scientist will design a virus which
>only infects commies! As to denying facts - Clinton denied as long as
>he could. F

Yeah, you have to hand it to the republicans. They got a president
impeached for having consensual sex with an adult while much bigger
problems needed to be addressed. To top it off, the #1 gunslinger,
Gingrich, had to resign shortyl thereafter for worse things than
having an affair.

David

Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:57:55
From: JJVP
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

John B. wrote:
> Fairway wrote:
> > annika1980 wrote:
> > > Must be Tex's hero.
> > >
> > > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now =
he
> > > admits to being gay.
> > > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> > Human frailty, Annika. Nobody is perfect. Don=B4t be a bigot. Forgive
> > the chap. After all, he is a sensible man and a good Republican. F
>
>
> A sensible man and a good Republican? Are you out of your fucking mind?
> Does a sensible man and a good Republican write legislation to
> criminalize the very behavior in which he's engaging? Does a sensible
> man and a good Republican exchange IMs about masturbation with a
> teenage boy while he's waiting to vote on the House floor? Does a
> member of a political party that promotes "personal responsibility" and
> despises "victimhood" blame everything and everyone but himself for his
> sick behavior? If you really believe that, then you've got some
> severely twisted values.

"Does a sensible man and a good Republican write legislation to
> criminalize the very behavior in which he's engaging?"

At least he knows is wrong and trying to criminalize his behaviour. A
democrat would write legislation to legalize it.

JJVP

Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:49:34
From: JJVP
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Alan Illeman wrote:
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message news:1159966424.212809.28290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > admits to being gay.
> > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
>
> http://www.capitolhillblue.com/content/2006/10/dem_gets_caught.html
> West Virginia Democrat caught with his pants down.

Now let's see if he resigns, or will he make up excuses like at typical
liberal dems. Ooops, he already made up excuses.

"White wrote that he had been working with his family to overcome a
"personal identification situation" and to overcome depression for
which he has been treated through medication for over a year."

"I am a religious person and have been for some months praying to God
to help my family and me through this tragic and troubling episode in
my life," the letter said."

JJVP

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:36:19
From: David
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

On 4 Oct 2006 09:49:34 -0700, "JJVP" <jjvp10@gmail.com > wrote:

<snipped >

>"I am a religious person and have been for some months praying to God
>to help my family and me through this tragic and troubling episode in
>my life," the letter said."

LOL! That is the line that almost makes me want to become a
christian. Fuck up and pray tell everyone you prayed to god for
salvation and that things will be all right now.

It is amazing how many people "find" Jesus when they get caught with
their hand in the till. The prisons are full of them. Bush will
probably visit Foley and they will pray together for his deliverance.
After that, Foley will declare he is no longer gay, has given up
alcohol and is ready to resume his position.

>JJVP

David

Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:30:37
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

John B. wrote:
> the Moderator wrote:
> > "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1159966424.212809.28290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > > Must be Tex's hero.
> > >
> > > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > > admits to being gay.
> > > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> > >
> > > And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> > > blaming the Democrats.
> > > Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> > > story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> > > friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> > > Can't he speak?
> > >
> > > If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> > > Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> > > sheets left to wipe your ass!
> > > And that includes 2-ply.
> >
> > It is interesting how differently the two parties handle scandals. The
> > Republicans kick them out. The Democrats excuse their behavior.
> >
> > Foley was removed and his list of excuses are despicable. He should be
> > punished in accordance with whatever crimes he has committed. The Democrats
> > jump right on the conspiracy train and want to blame all the Republicans
> > instead of Foley. No evidence, just throw out a bunch of lies and see what
> > sticks. Incredible.
>
>
> Foley was not removed. He quit. If he had chosen to stay he would still
> be there today. and there's plenty of evidence that the House
> leadership knew there was a problem with Foley and declined to do
> anything about it.

There is zero evidence...what there is alot of is speculation of who
knew what and when.
Over a year ago, there was an investigation into the emails by a local
Florida newspaper, and they came away with the report saying while the
emails weren't in the best interest of anyone concerned, no laws were
broken. Remember, it's not against the law to ask someone how they are
doing...regardless of age. Why weren't the IM's found a year ago?
And now why did they "appear" with less than 40 days to go before the
election?
And why were they "found" by a group with funding from our most
unfavorite communist Soros?

The IM's in question are disgusting...and again, so far there doesn't
seem to be any laws broken and if the FBI does think so, they will make
the arrests.

If the Dems want to blame the whole Republican party for this.....fine.
All republicans resign.
Then....we also get to blame the whole Democratic party for Clinton.
They all resign too.

Let's start with a clean house.

And the first new law passed is term limits. 12 yrs for Senate, 10 yrs
for House. 8 yrs for President.

Tex

Date:
From:
Subject:

Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:24:01
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

annika1980 wrote:
> Tex wrote:
> > Your Dad stop beating you again? So you had to come here.
>
> As the good Republican Foley says, I think it's time we turned over a
> new page.
> "Can I have a good kiss goodnight?"
>
> Isn't it odd that a party that claims the higher moral ground and
> Christian values has so many members that are involved in outright
> corruption, pedophilia, coverups, etc?
> Plus, they support torture.

Isn't it odd that the other Party that points the finger all time has
also been caught with that same finger up young
boys/girls/pages/interns as well, but usually denies, denies, denies
until they finally admit it, run to apologize, hide in rehab and then
just show up later pointing the same finger again.

In otherwords, they are all a bunch of fucking hypocrits!

Tex

Date: 04 Oct 2006 21:02:02
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159979041.493240.27930@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Isn't it odd that a party that claims the higher moral ground and
>> Christian values has so many members that are involved in outright
>> corruption, pedophilia, coverups, etc?
>> Plus, they support torture.
>
> Isn't it odd that the other Party that points the finger all time has
> also been caught with that same finger up young
> boys/girls/pages/interns as well, but usually denies, denies, denies
> until they finally admit it, run to apologize, hide in rehab and then
> just show up later pointing the same finger again.
>
> In otherwords, they are all a bunch of fucking hypocrits!

No, that's the whole point. Right wingers and left wingers are both caught
in scandals, but the right wingers are the biggest hypocrites. Right
wingers go off on some drug crackdown as if on some holy crusade, then get
caught with crack. Left wingers just get caught with the crack. Get it
yet?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:14:44
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

the Moderator wrote:
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1159966424.212809.28290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > Must be Tex's hero.
> >
> > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > admits to being gay.
> > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> >
> > And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> > blaming the Democrats.
> > Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> > story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> > friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> > Can't he speak?
> >
> > If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> > Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> > sheets left to wipe your ass!
> > And that includes 2-ply.
>
> It is interesting how differently the two parties handle scandals. The
> Republicans kick them out. The Democrats excuse their behavior.
>
> Foley was removed and his list of excuses are despicable. He should be
> punished in accordance with whatever crimes he has committed. The Democrats
> jump right on the conspiracy train and want to blame all the Republicans
> instead of Foley. No evidence, just throw out a bunch of lies and see what
> sticks. Incredible.

Foley was not removed. He quit. If he had chosen to stay he would still
be there today. and there's plenty of evidence that the House
leadership knew there was a problem with Foley and declined to do
anything about it.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:50:53
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159978484.761198.311330@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> the Moderator wrote:

> > Foley was removed and his list of excuses are despicable. He should be
> > punished in accordance with whatever crimes he has committed. The
Democrats
> > jump right on the conspiracy train and want to blame all the Republicans
> > instead of Foley. No evidence, just throw out a bunch of lies and see
what
> > sticks. Incredible.
>
>
> Foley was not removed. He quit. If he had chosen to stay he would still
> be there today. and there's plenty of evidence that the House
> leadership knew there was a problem with Foley and declined to do
> anything about it.

You think he just decided to resign? I think his decision was made for him.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 08:58:20
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Tex wrote:
> Your Dad stop beating you again? So you had to come here.

As the good Republican Foley says, I think it's time we turned over a
new page.
"Can I have a good kiss goodnight?"

Isn't it odd that a party that claims the higher moral ground and
Christian values has so many members that are involved in outright
corruption, pedophilia, coverups, etc?
Plus, they support torture.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 08:52:00
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Fairway wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > Must be Tex's hero.
> >
> > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > admits to being gay.
> > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> Human frailty, Annika. Nobody is perfect. Don=B4t be a bigot. Forgive
> the chap. After all, he is a sensible man and a good Republican. F

A sensible man and a good Republican? Are you out of your fucking mind?
Does a sensible man and a good Republican write legislation to
criminalize the very behavior in which he's engaging? Does a sensible
man and a good Republican exchange IMs about masturbation with a
teenage boy while he's waiting to vote on the House floor? Does a
member of a political party that promotes "personal responsibility" and
despises "victimhood" blame everything and everyone but himself for his
sick behavior? If you really believe that, then you've got some
severely twisted values.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 12:34:04
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159977120.373980.98410@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...

Fairway wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > Must be Tex's hero.
> >
> > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > admits to being gay.
> > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> Human frailty, Annika. Nobody is perfect. Don�t be a bigot. Forgive
> the chap. After all, he is a sensible man and a good Republican. F

A sensible man and a good Republican? Are you out of your fucking mind?
Does a sensible man and a good Republican write legislation to
criminalize the very behavior in which he's engaging? Does a sensible
man and a good Republican exchange IMs about masturbation with a
teenage boy while he's waiting to vote on the House floor? Does a
member of a political party that promotes "personal responsibility" and
despises "victimhood" blame everything and everyone but himself for his
sick behavior?

Of course not. He paints himself with body paint and prances around with
other guys.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/content/2006/10/dem_gets_caught.html

Date: 04 Oct 2006 08:45:07
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

multi wrote:
> On 4 Oct 2006 05:53:44 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
> >If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> >Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> >sheets left to wipe your ass!
>
> I guess I owe them an apology. When I complained that they were
> wiping their asses with the Constitution, I didn't realize their
> predicament.

Speaking of the Constitution, I heard that Bush is thinking about
de-classifying parts of it.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 18:22:20
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159976706.985028.35490@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> multi wrote:
>> On 4 Oct 2006 05:53:44 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>> >If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
>> >Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
>> >sheets left to wipe your ass!
>>
>> I guess I owe them an apology. When I complained that they were
>> wiping their asses with the Constitution, I didn't realize their
>> predicament.
>
> Speaking of the Constitution, I heard that Bush is thinking about
> de-classifying parts of it.

He should consider reading it.

That is, if he actually ever reads anything.

Randy

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:43:11
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <hbOdneBydZOBqbnYnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@giganews.com >,
"\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote:

> "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159976706.985028.35490@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > multi wrote:
> >> On 4 Oct 2006 05:53:44 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> >> >Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> >> >sheets left to wipe your ass!
> >>
> >> I guess I owe them an apology. When I complained that they were
> >> wiping their asses with the Constitution, I didn't realize their
> >> predicament.
> >
> > Speaking of the Constitution, I heard that Bush is thinking about
> > de-classifying parts of it.
>
>
> He should consider reading it.
>
> That is, if he actually ever reads anything.
>
> Randy

No, he doesn't. There's nothing to color in it.

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:39:18
From: Alan Illeman
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message news:1159966424.212809.28290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> admits to being gay.
> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/content/2006/10/dem_gets_caught.html
West Virginia Democrat caught with his pants down.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 07:57:56
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Miss Anne Thrope wrote:
> Gay, alcoholic, and Republican.
>
> Three things on your application that will move you to the top of the
> new member list at any country club in America.

Or at least the top of the list at the next Democratic National
Convention speaker's list.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 07:56:09
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

annika1980 wrote:
> Must be Tex's hero.
>
> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> admits to being gay.
> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.

Yeah, he should have either picked up a gay hooker and denied it, or
wagged his finger in front of millions saying "I did not text message
that boy... the page", because we all know THAT's taking
responsibility.

Foley should be a poster child for the liberals now. He's gay, he's
makes the Church look bad, and he pounds the booze.

At least he resigned.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:56:05
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159966424.212809.28290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Must be Tex's hero.
>
> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> admits to being gay.
> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
>
> And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> blaming the Democrats.
> Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> Can't he speak?
>
> If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> sheets left to wipe your ass!
> And that includes 2-ply.

It is interesting how differently the two parties handle scandals. The
Republicans kick them out. The Democrats excuse their behavior.

Foley was removed and his list of excuses are despicable. He should be
punished in accordance with whatever crimes he has committed. The Democrats
jump right on the conspiracy train and want to blame all the Republicans
instead of Foley. No evidence, just throw out a bunch of lies and see what
sticks. Incredible.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:25:30
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <GPadnbD9ufsbVr7YnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@centurytel.net >,
"the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:

> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1159966424.212809.28290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > Must be Tex's hero.
> >
> > This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> > First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> > admits to being gay.
> > Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
> >
> > And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> > blaming the Democrats.
> > Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> > story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> > friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> > Can't he speak?
> >
> > If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> > Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> > sheets left to wipe your ass!
> > And that includes 2-ply.
>
> It is interesting how differently the two parties handle scandals. The
> Republicans kick them out. The Democrats excuse their behavior.

"Kick them out"? This came to light over a year ago and the GoP
leadership did sweet FA. That is not "kicking them out" in anyone's
language.
>
> Foley was removed and his list of excuses are despicable. He should be
> punished in accordance with whatever crimes he has committed. The Democrats
> jump right on the conspiracy train and want to blame all the Republicans
> instead of Foley. No evidence, just throw out a bunch of lies and see what
> sticks. Incredible.

Nice try to turn this around, but I am afraid that this particular spin
drier is stuck pointing at you. Only thing funnier is watching Boehner
and co. trying to distance themselves from Hastert. Talk about rats
leaving a sinking ship.

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:54:43
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@nospamosu.edu > wrote in message
news:clark.31-679C22.14253004102006@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <GPadnbD9ufsbVr7YnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@centurytel.net>,
> "the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > It is interesting how differently the two parties handle scandals. The
> > Republicans kick them out. The Democrats excuse their behavior.
>
> "Kick them out"? This came to light over a year ago and the GoP
> leadership did sweet FA. That is not "kicking them out" in anyone's
> language.
> >
> > Foley was removed and his list of excuses are despicable. He should be
> > punished in accordance with whatever crimes he has committed. The
Democrats
> > jump right on the conspiracy train and want to blame all the Republicans
> > instead of Foley. No evidence, just throw out a bunch of lies and see
what
> > sticks. Incredible.
>
> Nice try to turn this around, but I am afraid that this particular spin
> drier is stuck pointing at you. Only thing funnier is watching Boehner
> and co. trying to distance themselves from Hastert. Talk about rats
> leaving a sinking ship.
>
> William Clark

What came to light? Do you have more information than what has been
released? My comments are not a 'turn around'. I am consistently a law and
order type person.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:42:05
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

In article <RpydnfcpDqY5sLnYnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@centurytel.net >,
"the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:

> "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark.31-679C22.14253004102006@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <GPadnbD9ufsbVr7YnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@centurytel.net>,
> > "the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It is interesting how differently the two parties handle scandals. The
> > > Republicans kick them out. The Democrats excuse their behavior.
> >
> > "Kick them out"? This came to light over a year ago and the GoP
> > leadership did sweet FA. That is not "kicking them out" in anyone's
> > language.
> > >
> > > Foley was removed and his list of excuses are despicable. He should be
> > > punished in accordance with whatever crimes he has committed. The
> Democrats
> > > jump right on the conspiracy train and want to blame all the Republicans
> > > instead of Foley. No evidence, just throw out a bunch of lies and see
> what
> > > sticks. Incredible.
> >
> > Nice try to turn this around, but I am afraid that this particular spin
> > drier is stuck pointing at you. Only thing funnier is watching Boehner
> > and co. trying to distance themselves from Hastert. Talk about rats
> > leaving a sinking ship.
> >
> > William Clark
>
> What came to light? Do you have more information than what has been
> released? My comments are not a 'turn around'. I am consistently a law and
> order type person.

The GoP appears clearly culpable of covering this up. Hastert knew about
it for close to a year and did nothing - that's why Boehner is covering
his rear by distancing himself as far as he can from poor ol' Dennis.

Again, you are attempting damage control by dumping this all on the
wretched Foley. However, it is clear that others knew and sat on it -
that is a bigger crime.

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 12:27:13
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote in message
news:GPadnbD9ufsbVr7YnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@centurytel.net...
>
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1159966424.212809.28290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> Must be Tex's hero.
>>
>> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
>> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
>> admits to being gay.
>> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
>>
>> And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
>> blaming the Democrats.
>> Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
>> story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
>> friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
>> Can't he speak?
>>
>> If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
>> Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
>> sheets left to wipe your ass!
>> And that includes 2-ply.
>
> It is interesting how differently the two parties handle scandals. The
> Republicans kick them out. The Democrats excuse their behavior.
>
> Foley was removed and his list of excuses are despicable. He should be
> punished in accordance with whatever crimes he has committed. The
> Democrats
> jump right on the conspiracy train and want to blame all the Republicans
> instead of Foley. No evidence, just throw out a bunch of lies and see
> what
> sticks. Incredible.
>
>
Not really incredible, buy typical. Their desperation mounts.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:42:37
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Gay, alcoholic, and Republican.

Three things on your application that will move you to the top of the
new member list at any country club in America.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 07:50:58
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

Date: 04 Oct 2006 07:49:52
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

annika1980 wrote:
> Must be Tex's hero.
>
> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> admits to being gay.
> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
Human frailty, Annika. Nobody is perfect. Don=B4t be a bigot. Forgive
the chap. After all, he is a sensible man and a good Republican. F

Date: 05 Oct 2006 01:04:58
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:52 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote:

>Human frailty, Annika. Nobody is perfect. Don�t be a bigot. Forgive
>the chap. After all, he is a sensible man and a good Republican. F

So should we ignore what the President said about this?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:26:43
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1159973392.666953.41840@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...

annika1980 wrote:
> Must be Tex's hero.
>
> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> admits to being gay.
> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
Human frailty, Annika. Nobody is perfect. Don�t be a bigot. Forgive
the chap. After all, he is a sensible man and a good Republican. F

Annika is your typical tolerant liberal. Full of hate and no brains.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:58:10
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote in message
news:4oi25jFegpesU1@individual.net...
>
> Annika is your typical tolerant liberal. Full of hate and no brains.

As opposed to, say, your typical right wing hard line "Christian" full of
hate and no brains. I do see the difference. Really. Mostly the
difference is hypocrisy. (Ironic that that's one of the few things Christ
*actually* spoke out against. (No, he didn't speak out against promiscuity
or internet gambling, regardless of what the neo-christian-fascists would
have you believe.))

Date: 05 Oct 2006 10:56:59
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"jeffc" <jeffc226@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:CfVUg.4689$fy.4139@tornado.southeast.rr.com...
>
> "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:4oi25jFegpesU1@individual.net...
>>
>> Annika is your typical tolerant liberal. Full of hate and no brains.
>
> As opposed to, say, your typical right wing hard line "Christian" full of
> hate and no brains. I do see the difference. Really. Mostly the
> difference is hypocrisy. (Ironic that that's one of the few things Christ
> *actually* spoke out against. (No, he didn't speak out against
> promiscuity or internet gambling, regardless of what the
> neo-christian-fascists would have you believe.))
True. The extremes are killing this country.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 07:43:18
From: JJVP
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

annika1980 wrote:
> Must be Tex's hero.
>
> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
> admits to being gay.
> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
>
> And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
> blaming the Democrats.
> Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
> story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
> friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
> Can't he speak?
>
> If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
> Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
> sheets left to wipe your ass!
> And that includes 2-ply.

And that is still about 10% of the scandals for Democrats. Remember the
Clinton years. 2-3 scandals per week. Typical DemocraT. Remember your
boy Billy Bob"I did not have sex with that woman" Clinton. Remember
Barney Franks pimping gay sex from his house? Yet he refused to resign
and the Dems refused to expel him. How about Mel Reynolds? Remember
him. An ex-congressman who had sex with a subordinate, won clemency
from a president who had sex with a subordinate then was hired by a
clergyman who had sex with a subordinate. His new job? .....Youth
counselor.

JJVP

Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:25:16
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

"JJVP" <jjvp10@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159972998.730159.327110@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> annika1980 wrote:
>> Must be Tex's hero.
>>
>> This Foley thing just gets better each day.
>> First it was because of alcohol. Then he was molested as a boy. Now he
>> admits to being gay.
>> Excuse after excuse. No personal responsibility. Typical Republican.
>>
>> And what's up with Dennis Hastert? He covered it all up and is now
>> blaming the Democrats.
>> Yeah, right. It's that damned liberal media again, right Denny? One
>> story I read had a quote from his "spokesman." Now why does the
>> friggin Speaker of the House need a spokesman anyway?
>> Can't he speak?
>>
>> If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
>> Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
>> sheets left to wipe your ass!
>> And that includes 2-ply.
>
> And that is still about 10% of the scandals for Democrats. Remember the
> Clinton years. 2-3 scandals per week. Typical DemocraT. Remember your
> boy Billy Bob"I did not have sex with that woman" Clinton. Remember
> Barney Franks pimping gay sex from his house? Yet he refused to resign
> and the Dems refused to expel him. How about Mel Reynolds? Remember
> him. An ex-congressman who had sex with a subordinate, won clemency
> from a president who had sex with a subordinate then was hired by a
> clergyman who had sex with a subordinate. His new job? .....Youth
> counselor.
>
> JJVP
>
Liberal moonbats have a very selective memory.

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Date: 04 Oct 2006 06:18:02
From: multi
Subject: Re: Mark Foley - Gay..... Alcoholic...... Republican

On 4 Oct 2006 05:53:44 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
>If you had a brand new roll of toilet paper and wrote down just one
>Republican scandal since 2000 per sheet, you wouldn't have enough
>sheets left to wipe your ass!

I guess I owe them an apology. When I complained that they were
wiping their asses with the Constitution, I didn't realize their
predicament.