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Date: 03 Oct 2006 13:50:25
From: Ben.
Subject: Mark Foley

If Foley was one of these sick fucks who gets spun out in an FBI sting
- the ones where they troll for old perverts and then bust them when
they show up to meet the "teenager" in question - he'd be in jail, not
some fucking alcohol rehab center. Classy move - in essence blaming
alcohol for his sick behavioral disorder.

Anyway, The Big Chief had this to say about his fellow Republican:

"I was dismayed and shocked to learn about Congressman Foley's
unacceptable behavior," he said while visiting George W. Bush
Elementary School in Stockton, California. "I was disgusted by the
revelations and disappointed that he would violate the trust of the
citizens who placed him in office.

"The families have every right to expect that when they send their
children to be a congressional page in Washington that they'll be
respected."

First time in a long time, possibly ever, that I am in 100%, blanket
agreement with Dub.

So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite scumbag
bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 11:19:26
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> :
> :
> : On Oct 5, 1:37 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
> :> Tex <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:: Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> :> : forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> :> : Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> :>
> :> I've got family in the shit, k. I don't need this attitude
> :> from you or from anybody.
> :>
> :> Forgive me if I'm taking it too seriously, but I'm going to
> :> take it *very* seriously if something happens to her. Let me
> :> know when you have as much invested in the military, ok?
> :
> : I'm part of military family CB, I don't need your shit either.
>
> Well, you probably wouldn't take it very well if I said you
> didn't respect much of the armed forces, right? Maybe it's
> better just to stay away from blanket condemnations like
> that...

If you were to say "Conservatives" don't care about helping the
poor....I'd laugh it off. Mostly because we both know it's not 100%
true. And since I know it's not the way I live my life, I'd not take
it personal. It's mostly a poltical plow that attempts to divide
voters.

I said "Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces"...which we
both know is not 100% true. And in no way said, "CB doesn't respect the
Armed Forces". Right? That being said, when the Democratic Party
attempted to sidestep the entire Clinton mess because "it was just a
blowjob" meant that they had TOTAL disregard for the Military Code of
Conduct. Which, by being CIC, Clinton is oblidged to follow. By
ignoring it, he had little respect for the Armed Forces.

Tex
Tex

Date: 05 Oct 2006 19:20:12
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
:
: Chris Bellomy wrote:
: > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
: > :
: > :
: > : On Oct 5, 1:37 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
: > :> Tex <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:: Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
: > :> : forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
: > :> : Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
: > :>
: > :> I've got family in the shit, k. I don't need this attitude
: > :> from you or from anybody.
: > :>
: > :> Forgive me if I'm taking it too seriously, but I'm going to
: > :> take it *very* seriously if something happens to her. Let me
: > :> know when you have as much invested in the military, ok?
: > :
: > : I'm part of military family CB, I don't need your shit either.
: >
: > Well, you probably wouldn't take it very well if I said you
: > didn't respect much of the armed forces, right? Maybe it's
: > better just to stay away from blanket condemnations like
: > that...
:
: If you were to say "Conservatives" don't care about helping the
: poor....I'd laugh it off. Mostly because we both know it's not 100%
: true. And since I know it's not the way I live my life, I'd not take
: it personal. It's mostly a poltical plow that attempts to divide
: voters.

I think the more appropriate analogy would be if I said that
conservatives like to boink underage boys. It's a stereotype
that has no basis in reality, kinda like the "liberals don't
respect the armed forces" deal. Fact is, almost every Iraq
veteran running for office this year is a Democrat. Lots of
liberals laying it on the line for this country in uniform,
they deserve better than to be subject to this sort of deal.

That said, I know you were just taking a swipe at Clinton,
it's ok, we're cool, bruh. :)

: I said "Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces"...which we
: both know is not 100% true. And in no way said, "CB doesn't respect the
: Armed Forces". Right? That being said, when the Democratic Party
: attempted to sidestep the entire Clinton mess because "it was just a
: blowjob" meant that they had TOTAL disregard for the Military Code of
: Conduct. Which, by being CIC, Clinton is oblidged to follow.

The president is a civilian. He is not subject to any military
jurisdiction of any sort. This is true for any president, not
just Clinton.

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/

Date: 05 Oct 2006 21:50:26
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:20:12 GMT, Chris Bellomy
<puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:

>The president is a civilian. He is not subject to any military
>jurisdiction of any sort. This is true for any president, not
>just Clinton.

Was it true for Eisenhower?

Date: 06 Oct 2006 01:56:39
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net > wrote:
: On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:20:12 GMT, Chris Bellomy
: <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
:
: >The president is a civilian. He is not subject to any military
: >jurisdiction of any sort. This is true for any president, not
: >just Clinton.
:
: Was it true for Eisenhower?

Yes. Running for office isn't permitted under the UCMJ.

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/

Date: 05 Oct 2006 17:25:08
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <cgvai25qel10h7im2ak883j6dp0mb99kk2@4ax.com >,
Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net > wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:20:12 GMT, Chris Bellomy
> <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
>
> >The president is a civilian. He is not subject to any military
> >jurisdiction of any sort. This is true for any president, not
> >just Clinton.
>
> Was it true for Eisenhower?

Yes. He was only under the UCMJ while in the service, not as President.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 16:58:25
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 21:50:26 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:20:12 GMT, Chris Bellomy
><puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
>
>>The president is a civilian. He is not subject to any military
>>jurisdiction of any sort. This is true for any president, not
>>just Clinton.
>
>Was it true for Eisenhower?
Was he retired Howard?

Date: 06 Oct 2006 04:16:49
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On 5-Oct-2006, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote:

> >>The president is a civilian. He is not subject to any military
> >>jurisdiction of any sort. This is true for any president, not
> >>just Clinton.
> >
> >Was it true for Eisenhower?
> Was he retired Howard?

no just faded :-)

--
bill-o

A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.

Date: 06 Oct 2006 02:32:09
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:58:25 -0500, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:

>>>The president is a civilian. He is not subject to any military
>>>jurisdiction of any sort. This is true for any president, not
>>>just Clinton.
>>
>>Was it true for Eisenhower?
>Was he retired Howard?

I know Bradley never retired - 5 star generals are a special case as
far as retirement goes. So I don't know the answer of the question I
asked.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 14:02:06
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <1160072366.833969.217620@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:

> Chris Bellomy wrote:
> > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > :
> > :
> > : On Oct 5, 1:37 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
> > :> Tex <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:: Doesn't matter what age she was,
> > :> she was a subordinate. Strictly
> > :> : forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> > :> : Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> > :>
> > :> I've got family in the shit, k. I don't need this attitude
> > :> from you or from anybody.
> > :>
> > :> Forgive me if I'm taking it too seriously, but I'm going to
> > :> take it *very* seriously if something happens to her. Let me
> > :> know when you have as much invested in the military, ok?
> > :
> > : I'm part of military family CB, I don't need your shit either.
> >
> > Well, you probably wouldn't take it very well if I said you
> > didn't respect much of the armed forces, right? Maybe it's
> > better just to stay away from blanket condemnations like
> > that...
>
> If you were to say "Conservatives" don't care about helping the
> poor....I'd laugh it off. Mostly because we both know it's not 100%
> true. And since I know it's not the way I live my life, I'd not take
> it personal. It's mostly a poltical plow that attempts to divide
> voters.
>
> I said "Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces"...which we
> both know is not 100% true. And in no way said, "CB doesn't respect the
> Armed Forces". Right? That being said, when the Democratic Party
> attempted to sidestep the entire Clinton mess because "it was just a
> blowjob" meant that they had TOTAL disregard for the Military Code of
> Conduct. Which, by being CIC, Clinton is oblidged to follow. By
> ignoring it, he had little respect for the Armed Forces.
>
> Tex
> Tex

I'll say it again, Tex, since you didn't seem to read it before:

The President DOES NOT COME UNDER THE UCMJ!

Date: 05 Oct 2006 19:06:15
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <lloydparsons-BD99B9.14020605102006@individual.net >,
Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:

> In article <1160072366.833969.217620@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Chris Bellomy wrote:
> > > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > :
> > > :
> > > : On Oct 5, 1:37 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
> > > :> Tex <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:: Doesn't matter what age she was,
> > > :> she was a subordinate. Strictly
> > > :> : forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> > > :> : Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> > > :>
> > > :> I've got family in the shit, k. I don't need this attitude
> > > :> from you or from anybody.
> > > :>
> > > :> Forgive me if I'm taking it too seriously, but I'm going to
> > > :> take it *very* seriously if something happens to her. Let me
> > > :> know when you have as much invested in the military, ok?
> > > :
> > > : I'm part of military family CB, I don't need your shit either.
> > >
> > > Well, you probably wouldn't take it very well if I said you
> > > didn't respect much of the armed forces, right? Maybe it's
> > > better just to stay away from blanket condemnations like
> > > that...
> >
> > If you were to say "Conservatives" don't care about helping the
> > poor....I'd laugh it off. Mostly because we both know it's not 100%
> > true. And since I know it's not the way I live my life, I'd not take
> > it personal. It's mostly a poltical plow that attempts to divide
> > voters.
> >
> > I said "Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces"...which we
> > both know is not 100% true. And in no way said, "CB doesn't respect the
> > Armed Forces". Right? That being said, when the Democratic Party
> > attempted to sidestep the entire Clinton mess because "it was just a
> > blowjob" meant that they had TOTAL disregard for the Military Code of
> > Conduct. Which, by being CIC, Clinton is oblidged to follow. By
> > ignoring it, he had little respect for the Armed Forces.
> >
> > Tex
> > Tex
>
> I'll say it again, Tex, since you didn't seem to read it before:
>
> The President DOES NOT COME UNDER THE UCMJ!

I'm not sure that's true, but certainly there is already a separation
between what one does in one's military capacity and what one does in
one's other capacities.

--
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admit the sky is blue?'

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Date: 05 Oct 2006 14:33:27
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <alangbaker-6C4A4D.12061505102006@news.telus.net >,
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net > wrote:

> In article <lloydparsons-BD99B9.14020605102006@individual.net>,
> Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <1160072366.833969.217620@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Chris Bellomy wrote:
> > > > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > :
> > > > :
> > > > : On Oct 5, 1:37 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
> > > > :> Tex <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:: Doesn't matter what age she
> > > > :> was,
> > > > :> she was a subordinate. Strictly
> > > > :> : forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> > > > :> : Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> > > > :>
> > > > :> I've got family in the shit, k. I don't need this attitude
> > > > :> from you or from anybody.
> > > > :>
> > > > :> Forgive me if I'm taking it too seriously, but I'm going to
> > > > :> take it *very* seriously if something happens to her. Let me
> > > > :> know when you have as much invested in the military, ok?
> > > > :
> > > > : I'm part of military family CB, I don't need your shit either.
> > > >
> > > > Well, you probably wouldn't take it very well if I said you
> > > > didn't respect much of the armed forces, right? Maybe it's
> > > > better just to stay away from blanket condemnations like
> > > > that...
> > >
> > > If you were to say "Conservatives" don't care about helping the
> > > poor....I'd laugh it off. Mostly because we both know it's not 100%
> > > true. And since I know it's not the way I live my life, I'd not take
> > > it personal. It's mostly a poltical plow that attempts to divide
> > > voters.
> > >
> > > I said "Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces"...which we
> > > both know is not 100% true. And in no way said, "CB doesn't respect the
> > > Armed Forces". Right? That being said, when the Democratic Party
> > > attempted to sidestep the entire Clinton mess because "it was just a
> > > blowjob" meant that they had TOTAL disregard for the Military Code of
> > > Conduct. Which, by being CIC, Clinton is oblidged to follow. By
> > > ignoring it, he had little respect for the Armed Forces.
> > >
> > > Tex
> > > Tex
> >
> > I'll say it again, Tex, since you didn't seem to read it before:
> >
> > The President DOES NOT COME UNDER THE UCMJ!
>
> I'm not sure that's true, but certainly there is already a separation
> between what one does in one's military capacity and what one does in
> one's other capacities.

It is true. The president, while being commander in chief, is not on
active military duty.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 19:37:00
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <lloydparsons-D87DE5.14332705102006@individual.net >,
Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:

> In article <alangbaker-6C4A4D.12061505102006@news.telus.net>,
> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <lloydparsons-BD99B9.14020605102006@individual.net>,
> > Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <1160072366.833969.217620@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> > > "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Chris Bellomy wrote:
> > > > > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > :
> > > > > :
> > > > > : On Oct 5, 1:37 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > :> Tex <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:: Doesn't matter what age she
> > > > > :> was,
> > > > > :> she was a subordinate. Strictly
> > > > > :> : forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> > > > > :> : Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :> I've got family in the shit, k. I don't need this attitude
> > > > > :> from you or from anybody.
> > > > > :>
> > > > > :> Forgive me if I'm taking it too seriously, but I'm going to
> > > > > :> take it *very* seriously if something happens to her. Let me
> > > > > :> know when you have as much invested in the military, ok?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I'm part of military family CB, I don't need your shit either.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, you probably wouldn't take it very well if I said you
> > > > > didn't respect much of the armed forces, right? Maybe it's
> > > > > better just to stay away from blanket condemnations like
> > > > > that...
> > > >
> > > > If you were to say "Conservatives" don't care about helping the
> > > > poor....I'd laugh it off. Mostly because we both know it's not 100%
> > > > true. And since I know it's not the way I live my life, I'd not take
> > > > it personal. It's mostly a poltical plow that attempts to divide
> > > > voters.
> > > >
> > > > I said "Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces"...which we
> > > > both know is not 100% true. And in no way said, "CB doesn't respect the
> > > > Armed Forces". Right? That being said, when the Democratic Party
> > > > attempted to sidestep the entire Clinton mess because "it was just a
> > > > blowjob" meant that they had TOTAL disregard for the Military Code of
> > > > Conduct. Which, by being CIC, Clinton is oblidged to follow. By
> > > > ignoring it, he had little respect for the Armed Forces.
> > > >
> > > > Tex
> > > > Tex
> > >
> > > I'll say it again, Tex, since you didn't seem to read it before:
> > >
> > > The President DOES NOT COME UNDER THE UCMJ!
> >
> > I'm not sure that's true, but certainly there is already a separation
> > between what one does in one's military capacity and what one does in
> > one's other capacities.
>
> It is true. The president, while being commander in chief, is not on
> active military duty.

True. But when he *acts* as commander-in-chief...

--
'It's obvious to all that my predictions were wrong. � Shall I also
admit the sky is blue?'

'Isn't it funny that Final Cut Pro is nowhere to be seen at Pixar? They're
an all PC shop. ' -- 'me finally admitting that Pixar isn't an all PC shop.'

'... when most Pixar movies were made ... Final Cut Pro didn't even exist.'
-- 'So sue me. I just wrote my reks off the top of my head.'

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Date: 05 Oct 2006 20:47:15
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Date: 05 Oct 2006 14:55:31
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <alangbaker-574826.12370005102006@news.telus.net >,
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net > wrote:

> In article <lloydparsons-D87DE5.14332705102006@individual.net>,
> Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <alangbaker-6C4A4D.12061505102006@news.telus.net>,
> > Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <lloydparsons-BD99B9.14020605102006@individual.net>,
> > > Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <1160072366.833969.217620@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Chris Bellomy wrote:
> > > > > > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : On Oct 5, 1:37 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid>
> > > > > > : wrote:
> > > > > > :> Tex <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:: Doesn't matter what age
> > > > > > :> she
> > > > > > :> was,
> > > > > > :> she was a subordinate. Strictly
> > > > > > :> : forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But
> > > > > > :> : then,
> > > > > > :> : Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :> I've got family in the shit, k. I don't need this attitude
> > > > > > :> from you or from anybody.
> > > > > > :>
> > > > > > :> Forgive me if I'm taking it too seriously, but I'm going to
> > > > > > :> take it *very* seriously if something happens to her. Let me
> > > > > > :> know when you have as much invested in the military, ok?
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : I'm part of military family CB, I don't need your shit either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, you probably wouldn't take it very well if I said you
> > > > > > didn't respect much of the armed forces, right? Maybe it's
> > > > > > better just to stay away from blanket condemnations like
> > > > > > that...
> > > > >
> > > > > If you were to say "Conservatives" don't care about helping the
> > > > > poor....I'd laugh it off. Mostly because we both know it's not 100%
> > > > > true. And since I know it's not the way I live my life, I'd not take
> > > > > it personal. It's mostly a poltical plow that attempts to divide
> > > > > voters.
> > > > >
> > > > > I said "Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces"...which we
> > > > > both know is not 100% true. And in no way said, "CB doesn't respect
> > > > > the
> > > > > Armed Forces". Right? That being said, when the Democratic Party
> > > > > attempted to sidestep the entire Clinton mess because "it was just a
> > > > > blowjob" meant that they had TOTAL disregard for the Military Code of
> > > > > Conduct. Which, by being CIC, Clinton is oblidged to follow. By
> > > > > ignoring it, he had little respect for the Armed Forces.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tex
> > > > > Tex
> > > >
> > > > I'll say it again, Tex, since you didn't seem to read it before:
> > > >
> > > > The President DOES NOT COME UNDER THE UCMJ!
> > >
> > > I'm not sure that's true, but certainly there is already a separation
> > > between what one does in one's military capacity and what one does in
> > > one's other capacities.
> >
> > It is true. The president, while being commander in chief, is not on
> > active military duty.
>
> True. But when he *acts* as commander-in-chief...

Not even then. He is always a civilian and comes under civilian laws.

Think about it. The only recourse a military accused has is a
courttial, which is really a different animal from a civilian court
or even the political impeachment/trial modalities. No president can or
has been tried by courttial for actions as President.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 03:40:01
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Oct 5, 1:37 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
> Tex <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:: Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> : forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> : Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>
> I've got family in the shit, k. I don't need this attitude
> from you or from anybody.
>
> Forgive me if I'm taking it too seriously, but I'm going to
> take it *very* seriously if something happens to her. Let me
> know when you have as much invested in the military, ok?

I'm part of military family CB, I don't need your shit either.

Tex

Date: 05 Oct 2006 16:12:37
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
:
:
: On Oct 5, 1:37 am, Chris Bellomy <p...@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
: > Tex <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:: Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
: > : forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
: > : Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
: >
: > I've got family in the shit, k. I don't need this attitude
: > from you or from anybody.
: >
: > Forgive me if I'm taking it too seriously, but I'm going to
: > take it *very* seriously if something happens to her. Let me
: > know when you have as much invested in the military, ok?
:
: I'm part of military family CB, I don't need your shit either.

Well, you probably wouldn't take it very well if I said you
didn't respect much of the armed forces, right? Maybe it's
better just to stay away from blanket condemnations like
that...

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:28:24
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

larry wrote:

> >I'll check into the "reality hotel" if you check into the "fact
> >checking hotel". Deal? Lewinsky was 21 years old when the affair
> >started, and 23 when the news broke/affair ended.
>
> Clinton's action was criminal because a subordinate basically has no
> choice.

You're predictably out of your depth again, Larry. Though I find it
odd that a neo-con right winger such as yourself would absolve someone
of their poor decision making, and assign blame to the big bad wolf.
She had every choice in the world. We all do. She may have been
awestruck by his position, and who can blame her, and he definitely
took advantage of it, but she had some very simple choices:

- Blow this guy
- Don't blow this guy

There are loads of allegations out there against Slick Willy from women
who refused his sexual advances. The only difference between she and
they is that she made the conscious choice to speak into the
Presidential Mic.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:59:55
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On 4 Oct 2006 16:28:24 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:

>
>larry wrote:
>
>> >I'll check into the "reality hotel" if you check into the "fact
>> >checking hotel". Deal? Lewinsky was 21 years old when the affair
>> >started, and 23 when the news broke/affair ended.
>>
>> Clinton's action was criminal because a subordinate basically has no
>> choice.
>
>You're predictably out of your depth again, Larry. Though I find it
>odd that a neo-con right winger such as yourself would absolve someone
>of their poor decision making, and assign blame to the big bad wolf.
>She had every choice in the world. We all do. She may have been
>awestruck by his position, and who can blame her, and he definitely
>took advantage of it, but she had some very simple choices:
>
>- Blow this guy
>- Don't blow this guy

Nice try, but the law in every state was written and is enforced
against superiors who victimize their subordinates because it happens.
You would be pretty pissed if that were your daughter-- who did that
because she thought she had to to get ahead. And even though you
would be disappointed with your daughter-- you would want to kill that
SOB who took advantage of his position to get his cock sucked.
>
>There are loads of allegations out there against Slick Willy from women
>who refused his sexual advances. The only difference between she and
>they is that she made the conscious choice to speak into the
>Presidential Mic.

There were several signed sworn affadavits that he raped them--Juanita
Broaderick comes to mind. She was ignored because he had become
governor of a democratic state--with a democrat Attorney General,
Democrat Judges, and etc. etc.

BTW, if Clinton had not been elected President, very likely he would
have gone to jail --there were several on-going Federal investigations
in Arkansas. They were going to nail that bastard.

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 08:19:01
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <rci8i2tm903658fg8gbf5uek558f5hjs5l@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On 4 Oct 2006 16:28:24 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >larry wrote:
> >
> >> >I'll check into the "reality hotel" if you check into the "fact
> >> >checking hotel". Deal? Lewinsky was 21 years old when the affair
> >> >started, and 23 when the news broke/affair ended.
> >>
> >> Clinton's action was criminal because a subordinate basically has no
> >> choice.
> >
> >You're predictably out of your depth again, Larry. Though I find it
> >odd that a neo-con right winger such as yourself would absolve someone
> >of their poor decision making, and assign blame to the big bad wolf.
> >She had every choice in the world. We all do. She may have been
> >awestruck by his position, and who can blame her, and he definitely
> >took advantage of it, but she had some very simple choices:
> >
> >- Blow this guy
> >- Don't blow this guy
>
> Nice try, but the law in every state was written and is enforced
> against superiors who victimize their subordinates because it happens.
> You would be pretty pissed if that were your daughter-- who did that
> because she thought she had to to get ahead. And even though you
> would be disappointed with your daughter-- you would want to kill that
> SOB who took advantage of his position to get his cock sucked.
> >
> >There are loads of allegations out there against Slick Willy from women
> >who refused his sexual advances. The only difference between she and
> >they is that she made the conscious choice to speak into the
> >Presidential Mic.
>
> There were several signed sworn affadavits that he raped them--Juanita
> Broaderick comes to mind. She was ignored because he had become
> governor of a democratic state--with a democrat Attorney General,
> Democrat Judges, and etc. etc.
>
> BTW, if Clinton had not been elected President, very likely he would
> have gone to jail --there were several on-going Federal investigations
> in Arkansas. They were going to nail that bastard.

BS Larry. Do you think for one nanosecond that if any of those
"statements" were remotely credible that the GoP, Ken Starr, and the
rest would not have gone after Clinton like a pack of ravenous wolves?
Of course they would. Ergo, they were not credible, and for you to be
peddling them as innuendo to shore up your totally corrupt and
hypocritical party is simply disgusting.

William Clark
>
> Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 01:34:09
From: Ernie
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Date: 05 Oct 2006 11:05:21
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:34:09 GMT, Ernie <ernie@pga.org > wrote:

>In article <rci8i2tm903658fg8gbf5uek558f5hjs5l@4ax.com>,
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4 Oct 2006 16:28:24 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >larry wrote:
>> >
>> >> >I'll check into the "reality hotel" if you check into the "fact
>> >> >checking hotel". Deal? Lewinsky was 21 years old when the affair
>> >> >started, and 23 when the news broke/affair ended.
>> >>
>> >> Clinton's action was criminal because a subordinate basically has no
>> >> choice.
>> >
>> >You're predictably out of your depth again, Larry. Though I find it
>> >odd that a neo-con right winger such as yourself would absolve someone
>> >of their poor decision making, and assign blame to the big bad wolf.
>> >She had every choice in the world. We all do. She may have been
>> >awestruck by his position, and who can blame her, and he definitely
>> >took advantage of it, but she had some very simple choices:
>> >
>> >- Blow this guy
>> >- Don't blow this guy
>>
>> Nice try, but the law in every state was written and is enforced
>> against superiors who victimize their subordinates because it happens.
>> You would be pretty pissed if that were your daughter-- who did that
>> because she thought she had to to get ahead. And even though you
>> would be disappointed with your daughter-- you would want to kill that
>> SOB who took advantage of his position to get his cock sucked.
>
>Quote a law... ...any law.
>
http://employment-law.freeadvice.com/sexual_harassment/laws_harasssment.htm

That took 10 seconds. There are thousands of hits on Google for
sexual harassment statutes

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 18:11:04
From: Ernie
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <d9iai2d3hvc9u0phi8jihb1882kb9cqdgh@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:34:09 GMT, Ernie <ernie@pga.org> wrote:
>
> >In article <rci8i2tm903658fg8gbf5uek558f5hjs5l@4ax.com>,
> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4 Oct 2006 16:28:24 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >larry wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >I'll check into the "reality hotel" if you check into the "fact
> >> >> >checking hotel". Deal? Lewinsky was 21 years old when the affair
> >> >> >started, and 23 when the news broke/affair ended.
> >> >>
> >> >> Clinton's action was criminal because a subordinate basically has no
> >> >> choice.
> >> >
> >> >You're predictably out of your depth again, Larry. Though I find it
> >> >odd that a neo-con right winger such as yourself would absolve someone
> >> >of their poor decision making, and assign blame to the big bad wolf.
> >> >She had every choice in the world. We all do. She may have been
> >> >awestruck by his position, and who can blame her, and he definitely
> >> >took advantage of it, but she had some very simple choices:
> >> >
> >> >- Blow this guy
> >> >- Don't blow this guy
> >>
> >> Nice try, but the law in every state was written and is enforced
> >> against superiors who victimize their subordinates because it happens.
> >> You would be pretty pissed if that were your daughter-- who did that
> >> because she thought she had to to get ahead. And even though you
> >> would be disappointed with your daughter-- you would want to kill that
> >> SOB who took advantage of his position to get his cock sucked.
> >
> >Quote a law... ...any law.
> >
> http://employment-law.freeadvice.com/sexual_harassment/laws_harasssment.htm
>
> That took 10 seconds. There are thousands of hits on Google for
> sexual harassment statutes
>
> Larry

Quote the part of that link that makes it a *crime*... You know, as in
"Clinton's action was criminal".

Date: 05 Oct 2006 13:44:40
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Ernie" <ernie@pga.org > wrote in message
news:ernie-1075AB.11110405102006@news.telus.net...
> In article <d9iai2d3hvc9u0phi8jihb1882kb9cqdgh@4ax.com>,
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:34:09 GMT, Ernie <ernie@pga.org> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <rci8i2tm903658fg8gbf5uek558f5hjs5l@4ax.com>,
>> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 4 Oct 2006 16:28:24 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >larry wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> >I'll check into the "reality hotel" if you check into the "fact
>> >> >> >checking hotel". Deal? Lewinsky was 21 years old when the affair
>> >> >> >started, and 23 when the news broke/affair ended.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Clinton's action was criminal because a subordinate basically has
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> choice.
>> >> >
>> >> >You're predictably out of your depth again, Larry. Though I find it
>> >> >odd that a neo-con right winger such as yourself would absolve
>> >> >someone
>> >> >of their poor decision making, and assign blame to the big bad wolf.
>> >> >She had every choice in the world. We all do. She may have been
>> >> >awestruck by his position, and who can blame her, and he definitely
>> >> >took advantage of it, but she had some very simple choices:
>> >> >
>> >> >- Blow this guy
>> >> >- Don't blow this guy
>> >>
>> >> Nice try, but the law in every state was written and is enforced
>> >> against superiors who victimize their subordinates because it happens.
>> >> You would be pretty pissed if that were your daughter-- who did that
>> >> because she thought she had to to get ahead. And even though you
>> >> would be disappointed with your daughter-- you would want to kill that
>> >> SOB who took advantage of his position to get his cock sucked.
>> >
>> >Quote a law... ...any law.
>> >
>> http://employment-law.freeadvice.com/sexual_harassment/laws_harasssment.htm
>>
>> That took 10 seconds. There are thousands of hits on Google for
>> sexual harassment statutes
>>
>> Larry
>
> Quote the part of that link that makes it a *crime*... You know, as in
> "Clinton's action was criminal".

There are a few states where adultery is against the law. Though these are
typically very old laws and either never enforced or struck down as
unconstitutional. I believe ND was one.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 18:10:35
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Date: 04 Oct 2006 15:31:36
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

AKA Gray Asphalt wrote:

> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
> to the reality hotel.

I'll check into the "reality hotel" if you check into the "fact
checking hotel". Deal? Lewinsky was 21 years old when the affair
started, and 23 when the news broke/affair ended.

And hey, there were cigars involved...so light one up, Francis!

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:12:22
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On 4 Oct 2006 15:31:36 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:

>
>AKA Gray Asphalt wrote:
>
>> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
>> to the reality hotel.
>
>I'll check into the "reality hotel" if you check into the "fact
>checking hotel". Deal? Lewinsky was 21 years old when the affair
>started, and 23 when the news broke/affair ended.

Clinton's action was criminal because a subordinate basically has no
choice. It is called sexual predation. It is a crime in most states.
Do you really think a 21 year old Jewish surgeon's daughter would even
THINK about giving that fat old SOB the time of day had Clinton not
been President? He got the blowjob because he had the title. He
should be in jail because he took advantage of her and for the dozen
other sexual predation incidents in his past before that.

Hillary knew he was a pervert-- but stayed with him because she wanted
to go where he could take them. She is the one who knowingly enabled
a criminal sex predator.

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 01:32:57
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <h4f8i2pesbqnaejknoi4hodnukc857oafl@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On 4 Oct 2006 15:31:36 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >AKA Gray Asphalt wrote:
> >
> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
> >> to the reality hotel.
> >
> >I'll check into the "reality hotel" if you check into the "fact
> >checking hotel". Deal? Lewinsky was 21 years old when the affair
> >started, and 23 when the news broke/affair ended.
>
> Clinton's action was criminal because a subordinate basically has no
> choice. It is called sexual predation. It is a crime in most states.
> Do you really think a 21 year old Jewish surgeon's daughter would even
> THINK about giving that fat old SOB the time of day had Clinton not
> been President? He got the blowjob because he had the title. He
> should be in jail because he took advantage of her and for the dozen
> other sexual predation incidents in his past before that.
>
> Hillary knew he was a pervert-- but stayed with him because she wanted
> to go where he could take them. She is the one who knowingly enabled
> a criminal sex predator.
>
> Larry

Please.

It's not a *crime* in *any* state.

--
'It's obvious to all that my predictions were wrong. Shall I also
admit the sky is blue?'

'Isn't it funny that Final Cut Pro is nowhere to be seen at Pixar? They're
an all PC shop. ' -- 'me finally admitting that Pixar isn't an all PC shop.'

'... when most Pixar movies were made ... Final Cut Pro didn't even exist.'
-- 'So sue me. I just wrote my reks off the top of my head.'

'It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix.'

Date: 05 Oct 2006 08:15:37
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <alangbaker-139AB0.18325804102006@news.telus.net >,
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net > wrote:

> In article <h4f8i2pesbqnaejknoi4hodnukc857oafl@4ax.com>,
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>
> > On 4 Oct 2006 15:31:36 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >AKA Gray Asphalt wrote:
> > >
> > >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> > >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
> > >> in
> > >> to the reality hotel.
> > >
> > >I'll check into the "reality hotel" if you check into the "fact
> > >checking hotel". Deal? Lewinsky was 21 years old when the affair
> > >started, and 23 when the news broke/affair ended.
> >
> > Clinton's action was criminal because a subordinate basically has no
> > choice. It is called sexual predation. It is a crime in most states.
> > Do you really think a 21 year old Jewish surgeon's daughter would even
> > THINK about giving that fat old SOB the time of day had Clinton not
> > been President? He got the blowjob because he had the title. He
> > should be in jail because he took advantage of her and for the dozen
> > other sexual predation incidents in his past before that.
> >
> > Hillary knew he was a pervert-- but stayed with him because she wanted
> > to go where he could take them. She is the one who knowingly enabled
> > a criminal sex predator.
> >
> > Larry
>
> Please.
>
>
> It's not a *crime* in *any* state.

Oh, don't burst poor Larry's little bubble for him! He's got a full time
job trying to explain away why we have now lost two Speakers of the
House to impropriety (and a third in jeopardy), two Congressmen to
guilty pleas on corruption charges, and a third to a scandal involving
young boys placed in their care, two Republican governors indicted - one
pleading guilty on ethics charges, why Abramoff and his sleaze are being
linked closer and closer to the WH day by day, and the only bullet in
his gun is the same tired old "Clinton did . . " cliche that is so far
past its sell date it isn't even funny.

Plus there are elections in a month. Yup, poor old Larry - we should
have a pity party for him, I think.

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 23:51:58
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:12:22 -0700, larry wrote:

> Clinton's action was criminal because a subordinate basically has no
> choice. It is called sexual predation.

Like it's better for an influential politician to chase little boys
around. Give your head a shake.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 23:23:42
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <h4f8i2pesbqnaejknoi4hodnukc857oafl@4ax.com >
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

Then you're ok with pediphiles, right larry? Is this what you're saying?
Please clear this up for us.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 17:41:40
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"tiggerspalewife" <anon@comments.header > wrote in message
news:F4QQMPTK38994.808125@twistycreek.com...
> In article <h4f8i2pesbqnaejknoi4hodnukc857oafl@4ax.com>
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>
> Then you're ok with pediphiles, right larry? Is this what you're saying?
> Please clear this up for us.

Seeing how fucked up Larry is, is kind of encouraging. He's not evil which
is a lot worse ... maybe just a blind spot, however disgusting.

Date:
From:
Subject:

Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:21:51
From:
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Tex wrote:
>
> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>
> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> > > > just me.
>
> > > >>Clinton had sex with
> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>
> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> > > > actually!
>
> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of their
> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as the
> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>
> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>
> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
either.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 15:00:31
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:

>
>
>On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > > Tex wrote:
>>
>> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
>> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>>
>> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
>> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
>> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
>> > > > just me.
>>
>> > > >>Clinton had sex with
>> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>>
>> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
>> > > > actually!
>>
>> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
>> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of their
>> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as the
>> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>>
>> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>>
>> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>
>Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
>adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
>either.

Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
can never be what will be available tomorrow.

That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.

Larry

Date: 04 Oct 2006 17:34:55
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:oib8i2t934166gf8v4ap9guj6m89sbp8ku@4ax.com...
> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> > > > Tex wrote:
>>>
>>> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>>> > > >> harmless,
>>> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>>>
>>> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>>> > > > merely
>>> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>>> > > > group,
>>> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>>> > > > that's
>>> > > > just me.
>>>
>>> > > >>Clinton had sex with
>>> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>>>
>>> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
>>> > > > fun,
>>> > > > actually!
>>>
>>> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>>> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>>> > > check in
>>> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
>>> > > the
>>> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>>> > > their
>>> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
>>> > > as the
>>> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>>>
>>> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
>>> > play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>>> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>>> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>>>
>>> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>>
>>Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
>>adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
>>either.
>
> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
>
> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
>
> Larry

It seems you have to believe that. Ok, but I dont believe it's true. I think
that they still hadn't given proper body armor even after they claimed to
have done that.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 10:53:38
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:34:55 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
<goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:

>
>"larry" <larry@deldata.com> wrote in message
>news:oib8i2t934166gf8v4ap9guj6m89sbp8ku@4ax.com...
>> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>>>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>> > > > Tex wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>>>> > > >> harmless,
>>>> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>>>>
>>>> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>>>> > > > merely
>>>> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>>>> > > > group,
>>>> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>>>> > > > that's
>>>> > > > just me.
>>>>
>>>> > > >>Clinton had sex with
>>>> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>>>>
>>>> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
>>>> > > > fun,
>>>> > > > actually!
>>>>
>>>> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>>>> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>>>> > > check in
>>>> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>>>> > > their
>>>> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
>>>> > > as the
>>>> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>>>>
>>>> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
>>>> > play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>>>> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>>>> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>>>>
>>>> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>>>
>>>Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
>>>adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
>>>either.
>>
>> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
>> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
>> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
>> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
>>
>> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
>>
>> Larry
>
>It seems you have to believe that. Ok, but I dont believe it's true. I think
>that they still hadn't given proper body armor even after they claimed to
>have done that.

I have been in extremely responsible positions, both military and in
civilian companies. There is NEVER unlimited money to do everything
everybody thinks is prudent. That's why leaders get the big bucks--
to make the tough decisions and then take the heat.

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 20:44:43
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <dihai2t6hlqqodftqpjm71v5ft5qj4jqrs@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:34:55 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
> <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"larry" <larry@deldata.com> wrote in message
> >news:oib8i2t934166gf8v4ap9guj6m89sbp8ku@4ax.com...
> >> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >>>> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >>>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>
> >>>> > > > Tex wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >>>> > > >> harmless,
> >>>> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >>>>
> >>>> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >>>> > > > merely
> >>>> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >>>> > > > group,
> >>>> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >>>> > > > that's
> >>>> > > > just me.
> >>>>
> >>>> > > >>Clinton had sex with
> >>>> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >>>>
> >>>> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >>>> > > > fun,
> >>>> > > > actually!
> >>>>
> >>>> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >>>> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >>>> > > check in
> >>>> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
> >>>> > > the
> >>>> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >>>> > > their
> >>>> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
> >>>> > > as the
> >>>> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >>>>
> >>>> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
> >>>> > play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> >>>> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >>>> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >>>>
> >>>> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
> >>>
> >>>Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
> >>>adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
> >>>either.
> >>
> >> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
> >> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
> >> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
> >> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
> >>
> >> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> >It seems you have to believe that. Ok, but I dont believe it's true. I think
> >that they still hadn't given proper body armor even after they claimed to
> >have done that.
>
> I have been in extremely responsible positions, both military and in
> civilian companies. There is NEVER unlimited money to do everything
> everybody thinks is prudent. That's why leaders get the big bucks--
> to make the tough decisions and then take the heat.
>
> Larry

Hard to believe it, given your total inability to present the truth on
any issue.

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 17:22:05
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <oib8i2t934166gf8v4ap9guj6m89sbp8ku@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> > > > Tex wrote:
> >>
> >> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> > > >> harmless,
> >> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >>
> >> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> > > > merely
> >> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> > > > group,
> >> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> > > > that's
> >> > > > just me.
> >>
> >> > > >>Clinton had sex with
> >> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >>
> >> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >> > > > fun,
> >> > > > actually!
> >>
> >> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> > > check in
> >> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> > > their
> >> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
> >> > > the
> >> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >>
> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
> >> > play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> >> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >>
> >> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
> >
> >Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
> >adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
> >either.
>
> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
>
> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
>
> Larry

True.

But it is the obligation of the President to ensure that conditions
don't remain that way. And until it hit the news, that wasn't
happening. Crap, it isn't really happening all that fast now.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 15:53:37
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:22:05 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:

>In article <oib8i2t934166gf8v4ap9guj6m89sbp8ku@4ax.com>,
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >>
>> >> > > > Tex wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>> >> > > >> harmless,
>> >> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >>
>> >> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>> >> > > > merely
>> >> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>> >> > > > group,
>> >> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>> >> > > > that's
>> >> > > > just me.
>> >>
>> >> > > >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >>
>> >> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
>> >> > > > fun,
>> >> > > > actually!
>> >>
>> >> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> >> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>> >> > > check in
>> >> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> >> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>> >> > > their
>> >> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >>
>> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
>> >> > play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>> >> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>> >> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>> >>
>> >> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>> >
>> >Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
>> >adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
>> >either.
>>
>> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
>> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
>> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
>> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
>>
>> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
>>
>> Larry
>
>True.
>
>But it is the obligation of the President to ensure that conditions
>don't remain that way. And until it hit the news, that wasn't
>happening. Crap, it isn't really happening all that fast now.

So when you were President, weren't you also obliged make tough
choices balancing myriad urgent demands with limited resouces? Tell
us how you would have handled it?

Pretty easy to just throw rocks, isn't it?

Larry

Date: 04 Oct 2006 18:22:07
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <8ne8i2p3prb1o15jkgi3ajqd4qbo6prbgu@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:22:05 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <oib8i2t934166gf8v4ap9guj6m89sbp8ku@4ax.com>,
> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> > > > Tex wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> > > >> harmless,
> >> >> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >>
> >> >> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> > > > merely
> >> >> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> > > > group,
> >> >> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> >> > > > that's
> >> >> > > > just me.
> >> >>
> >> >> > > >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >>
> >> >> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
> >> >> > > > kinda
> >> >> > > > fun,
> >> >> > > > actually!
> >> >>
> >> >> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
> >> >> > > taking
> >> >> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> >> > > check in
> >> >> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
> >> >> > > of
> >> >> > > their
> >> >> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
> >> >> > > as
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
> >> >> > play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate.
> >> >> > Strictly
> >> >> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >> >> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >> >>
> >> >> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
> >> >
> >> >Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
> >> >adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
> >> >either.
> >>
> >> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
> >> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
> >> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
> >> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
> >>
> >> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> >True.
> >
> >But it is the obligation of the President to ensure that conditions
> >don't remain that way. And until it hit the news, that wasn't
> >happening. Crap, it isn't really happening all that fast now.
>
> So when you were President, weren't you also obliged make tough
> choices balancing myriad urgent demands with limited resouces? Tell
> us how you would have handled it?
>
> Pretty easy to just throw rocks, isn't it?
>
> Larry

That is absurd, Larry. That is the pres's job, to fix stuff that isn't
right. He took them and us to war, it is his job to ensure that they
are supported properly. He hasn't.

And now they are proposing a 2.2% pay raise for this year's military.
Tell me, what the hell have you bought in the last year that only went
up 2.2%?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:43:33
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:22:07 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:

>In article <8ne8i2p3prb1o15jkgi3ajqd4qbo6prbgu@4ax.com>,
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:22:05 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
>> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <oib8i2t934166gf8v4ap9guj6m89sbp8ku@4ax.com>,
>> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > > Tex wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>> >> >> > > >> harmless,
>> >> >> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>> >> >> > > > merely
>> >> >> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>> >> >> > > > group,
>> >> >> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>> >> >> > > > that's
>> >> >> > > > just me.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> >> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
>> >> >> > > > kinda
>> >> >> > > > fun,
>> >> >> > > > actually!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
>> >> >> > > taking
>> >> >> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>> >> >> > > check in
>> >> >> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
>> >> >> > > of
>> >> >> > > their
>> >> >> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
>> >> >> > > as
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
>> >> >> > play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate.
>> >> >> > Strictly
>> >> >> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>> >> >> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>> >> >
>> >> >Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
>> >> >adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
>> >> >either.
>> >>
>> >> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
>> >> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
>> >> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
>> >> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
>> >>
>> >> Larry
>> >
>> >True.
>> >
>> >But it is the obligation of the President to ensure that conditions
>> >don't remain that way. And until it hit the news, that wasn't
>> >happening. Crap, it isn't really happening all that fast now.
>>
>> So when you were President, weren't you also obliged make tough
>> choices balancing myriad urgent demands with limited resouces? Tell
>> us how you would have handled it?
>>
>> Pretty easy to just throw rocks, isn't it?
>>
>> Larry
>
>That is absurd, Larry. That is the pres's job, to fix stuff that isn't
>right. He took them and us to war, it is his job to ensure that they
>are supported properly. He hasn't.
>
>And now they are proposing a 2.2% pay raise for this year's military.
>Tell me, what the hell have you bought in the last year that only went
>up 2.2%?

That is more than past presidents have been able to raise the military
pay. Everything like that is a delicate balance-- and the president
can't do more than the public and the congress will allow him to do. I
am sure he would like to double their pay....But then reality
intercedes..

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 08:28:10
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <nlh8i21j8n2qpbkc7rcl6bkvabok4l8jiu@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:22:07 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <8ne8i2p3prb1o15jkgi3ajqd4qbo6prbgu@4ax.com>,
> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:22:05 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <oib8i2t934166gf8v4ap9guj6m89sbp8ku@4ax.com>,
> >> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > > > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> >> > > >> harmless,
> >> >> >> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick
> >> >> >> > > > is
> >> >> >> > > > merely
> >> >> >> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> >> > > > group,
> >> >> >> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting.
> >> >> >> > > > But
> >> >> >> > > > that's
> >> >> >> > > > just me.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > > >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
> >> >> >> > > > kinda
> >> >> >> > > > fun,
> >> >> >> > > > actually!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
> >> >> >> > > taking
> >> >> >> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs
> >> >> >> > > to
> >> >> >> > > check in
> >> >> >> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor
> >> >> >> > > and
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the
> >> >> >> > > rest
> >> >> >> > > of
> >> >> >> > > their
> >> >> >> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives
> >> >> >> > > known
> >> >> >> > > as
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
> >> >> >> > play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate.
> >> >> >> > Strictly
> >> >> >> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >> >> >> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
> >> >> >adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
> >> >> >either.
> >> >>
> >> >> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
> >> >> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
> >> >> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
> >> >> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
> >> >>
> >> >> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
> >> >>
> >> >> Larry
> >> >
> >> >True.
> >> >
> >> >But it is the obligation of the President to ensure that conditions
> >> >don't remain that way. And until it hit the news, that wasn't
> >> >happening. Crap, it isn't really happening all that fast now.
> >>
> >> So when you were President, weren't you also obliged make tough
> >> choices balancing myriad urgent demands with limited resouces? Tell
> >> us how you would have handled it?
> >>
> >> Pretty easy to just throw rocks, isn't it?
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> >That is absurd, Larry. That is the pres's job, to fix stuff that isn't
> >right. He took them and us to war, it is his job to ensure that they
> >are supported properly. He hasn't.
> >
> >And now they are proposing a 2.2% pay raise for this year's military.
> >Tell me, what the hell have you bought in the last year that only went
> >up 2.2%?
>
> That is more than past presidents have been able to raise the military
> pay. Everything like that is a delicate balance-- and the president
> can't do more than the public and the congress will allow him to do. I
> am sure he would like to double their pay....But then reality
> intercedes..
>
> Larry

Not in your world it doesn't Larry.

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 13:45:29
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
> > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Tex wrote:
> > >
> > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> > >
> > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> > > just me.
> > >
> > >>Clinton had sex with
> > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> > >
> > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> > > actually!
> >
> > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
> > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of their
> > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as the
> > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>
> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?

Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...

Tex

Date: 05 Oct 2006 06:37:41
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:

: Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
: forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
: Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...

I've got family in the shit, k. I don't need this attitude
from you or from anybody.

Forgive me if I'm taking it too seriously, but I'm going to
take it *very* seriously if something happens to her. Let me
know when you have as much invested in the military, ok?

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/

Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:56:53
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On 4 Oct 2006 13:45:29 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:

>
>Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> > >
>> > > Tex wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
>> > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> > >
>> > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
>> > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
>> > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
>> > > just me.
>> > >
>> > >>Clinton had sex with
>> > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> > >
>> > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
>> > > actually!
>> >
>> > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
>> > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of their
>> > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as the
>> > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>>
>> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>
>Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>
>Tex

And if she had been a university student and the pervert who
victimized her the Chancellor, he would have been thrown from a 3d
floor window by a screaming mob...

Clinton got by with what should have been prosecuted as a civil and
possibly criminal act. Hundreds of men have lost their entire
careers, their family, and all their assets for doing what he did.

Larry

Date: 04 Oct 2006 17:19:20
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <tab8i25c9ptti2g1be13gerkv3c7opg9mg@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On 4 Oct 2006 13:45:29 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > Tex wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> >> > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> > >
> >> > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> >> > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> >> > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> > > that's
> >> > > just me.
> >> > >
> >> > >>Clinton had sex with
> >> > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> > >
> >> > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >> > > fun,
> >> > > actually!
> >> >
> >> > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
> >> > in
> >> > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> > their
> >> > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
> >> > the
> >> > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >>
> >> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >
> >Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> >forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >
> >Tex
>
> And if she had been a university student and the pervert who
> victimized her the Chancellor, he would have been thrown from a 3d
> floor window by a screaming mob...
>
> Clinton got by with what should have been prosecuted as a civil and
> possibly criminal act. Hundreds of men have lost their entire
> careers, their family, and all their assets for doing what he did.
>
> Larry

Mostly bullshit Larry. This happens all the time and you damn well know
it, with no repurcussions.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 15:50:52
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:19:20 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:

>In article <tab8i25c9ptti2g1be13gerkv3c7opg9mg@4ax.com>,
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4 Oct 2006 13:45:29 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> >> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> >> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Tex wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
>> >> > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
>> >> > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
>> >> > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>> >> > > that's
>> >> > > just me.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
>> >> > > fun,
>> >> > > actually!
>> >> >
>> >> > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> >> > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
>> >> > in
>> >> > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> >> > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>> >> > their
>> >> > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
>> >> > the
>> >> > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >>
>> >> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>> >
>> >Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>> >forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>> >Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>> >
>> >Tex
>>
>> And if she had been a university student and the pervert who
>> victimized her the Chancellor, he would have been thrown from a 3d
>> floor window by a screaming mob...
>>
>> Clinton got by with what should have been prosecuted as a civil and
>> possibly criminal act. Hundreds of men have lost their entire
>> careers, their family, and all their assets for doing what he did.
>>
>> Larry
>
>Mostly bullshit Larry. This happens all the time and you damn well know
>it, with no repurcussions

I do know a lot about this subject--and I can absolutely guarantee you
that Clinton was the first to do it -- he was fearless because he had
his Attorney General over a barrel--and she had no personal integrity.
Any other president, even the crook Lyndon Johnson, would have been
afraid to commit an impeachable felony trying to get elected. This
was unique. You will be reading more about it as the books come out.
Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 08:22:43
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <kge8i2l1hpvckllio46r0o9ttvqh118t77@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:19:20 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <tab8i25c9ptti2g1be13gerkv3c7opg9mg@4ax.com>,
> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4 Oct 2006 13:45:29 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >> >> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Tex wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> > >> harmless,
> >> >> > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> > > merely
> >> >> > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> > > group,
> >> >> > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> >> > > that's
> >> >> > > just me.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >> >> > > fun,
> >> >> > > actually!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> >> > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> >> > check
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> >> > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> >> > their
> >> >> > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >>
> >> >> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >> >
> >> >Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> >> >forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >> >Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >> >
> >> >Tex
> >>
> >> And if she had been a university student and the pervert who
> >> victimized her the Chancellor, he would have been thrown from a 3d
> >> floor window by a screaming mob...
> >>
> >> Clinton got by with what should have been prosecuted as a civil and
> >> possibly criminal act. Hundreds of men have lost their entire
> >> careers, their family, and all their assets for doing what he did.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> >Mostly bullshit Larry. This happens all the time and you damn well know
> >it, with no repurcussions
>
> I do know a lot about this subject--and I can absolutely guarantee you
> that Clinton was the first to do it -- he was fearless because he had
> his Attorney General over a barrel--and she had no personal integrity.
> Any other president, even the crook Lyndon Johnson, would have been
> afraid to commit an impeachable felony trying to get elected. This
> was unique. You will be reading more about it as the books come out.
> Larry

Larry, you know squat about this, or any other, subject. You are just a
screaming neocon who now has to explain why the party of "family values"
seems to have such a strange concept of family.

Give it up and go take a shower.

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 18:23:34
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <kge8i2l1hpvckllio46r0o9ttvqh118t77@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:19:20 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <tab8i25c9ptti2g1be13gerkv3c7opg9mg@4ax.com>,
> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4 Oct 2006 13:45:29 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >> >> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Tex wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> > >> harmless,
> >> >> > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> > > merely
> >> >> > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> > > group,
> >> >> > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> >> > > that's
> >> >> > > just me.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >> >> > > fun,
> >> >> > > actually!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> >> > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> >> > check
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> >> > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> >> > their
> >> >> > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >>
> >> >> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >> >
> >> >Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> >> >forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >> >Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >> >
> >> >Tex
> >>
> >> And if she had been a university student and the pervert who
> >> victimized her the Chancellor, he would have been thrown from a 3d
> >> floor window by a screaming mob...
> >>
> >> Clinton got by with what should have been prosecuted as a civil and
> >> possibly criminal act. Hundreds of men have lost their entire
> >> careers, their family, and all their assets for doing what he did.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> >Mostly bullshit Larry. This happens all the time and you damn well know
> >it, with no repurcussions
>
> I do know a lot about this subject--and I can absolutely guarantee you
> that Clinton was the first to do it -- he was fearless because he had
> his Attorney General over a barrel--and she had no personal integrity.
> Any other president, even the crook Lyndon Johnson, would have been
> afraid to commit an impeachable felony trying to get elected. This
> was unique. You will be reading more about it as the books come out.
> Larry

Must be some real winners as authors if it is taking them this long...
;-)

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:46:47
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:23:34 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:

>In article <kge8i2l1hpvckllio46r0o9ttvqh118t77@4ax.com>,
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:19:20 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
>> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <tab8i25c9ptti2g1be13gerkv3c7opg9mg@4ax.com>,
>> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 4 Oct 2006 13:45:29 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> >> >> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> >> >> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Tex wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>> >> >> > >> harmless,
>> >> >> > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>> >> >> > > merely
>> >> >> > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>> >> >> > > group,
>> >> >> > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>> >> >> > > that's
>> >> >> > > just me.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> >> > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
>> >> >> > > fun,
>> >> >> > > actually!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> >> >> > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>> >> >> > check
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> >> >> > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>> >> >> > their
>> >> >> > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>> >> >
>> >> >Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>> >> >forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>> >> >Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>> >> >
>> >> >Tex
>> >>
>> >> And if she had been a university student and the pervert who
>> >> victimized her the Chancellor, he would have been thrown from a 3d
>> >> floor window by a screaming mob...
>> >>
>> >> Clinton got by with what should have been prosecuted as a civil and
>> >> possibly criminal act. Hundreds of men have lost their entire
>> >> careers, their family, and all their assets for doing what he did.
>> >>
>> >> Larry
>> >
>> >Mostly bullshit Larry. This happens all the time and you damn well know
>> >it, with no repurcussions
>>
>> I do know a lot about this subject--and I can absolutely guarantee you
>> that Clinton was the first to do it -- he was fearless because he had
>> his Attorney General over a barrel--and she had no personal integrity.
>> Any other president, even the crook Lyndon Johnson, would have been
>> afraid to commit an impeachable felony trying to get elected. This
>> was unique. You will be reading more about it as the books come out.
>> Larry
>
>Must be some real winners as authors if it is taking them this long...

Book publishers are NOT going to undertake the risk of revealing dirt
on the Clintons until they are off the stage. As you know, both
Clintons are still endeavoring out there-- they have many supporters
who want them to win something and take them along-- so that machine
will fight ferociously any attempt to tell tales about the Clintons.

The books won't be written (or at least published) until history has
moved on --

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 08:25:26
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <mph8i25jmrnd4r7hqgo8titgfeju31esm1@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:23:34 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <kge8i2l1hpvckllio46r0o9ttvqh118t77@4ax.com>,
> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:19:20 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <tab8i25c9ptti2g1be13gerkv3c7opg9mg@4ax.com>,
> >> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 4 Oct 2006 13:45:29 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >> >> >> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> >> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> >> > >> harmless,
> >> >> >> > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> >> > > merely
> >> >> >> > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> >> > > group,
> >> >> >> > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> >> >> > > that's
> >> >> >> > > just me.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
> >> >> >> > > kinda
> >> >> >> > > fun,
> >> >> >> > > actually!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
> >> >> >> > taking
> >> >> >> > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> >> >> > check
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > their
> >> >> >> > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives
> >> >> >> > known
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> >> >> >forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >> >> >Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Tex
> >> >>
> >> >> And if she had been a university student and the pervert who
> >> >> victimized her the Chancellor, he would have been thrown from a 3d
> >> >> floor window by a screaming mob...
> >> >>
> >> >> Clinton got by with what should have been prosecuted as a civil and
> >> >> possibly criminal act. Hundreds of men have lost their entire
> >> >> careers, their family, and all their assets for doing what he did.
> >> >>
> >> >> Larry
> >> >
> >> >Mostly bullshit Larry. This happens all the time and you damn well know
> >> >it, with no repurcussions
> >>
> >> I do know a lot about this subject--and I can absolutely guarantee you
> >> that Clinton was the first to do it -- he was fearless because he had
> >> his Attorney General over a barrel--and she had no personal integrity.
> >> Any other president, even the crook Lyndon Johnson, would have been
> >> afraid to commit an impeachable felony trying to get elected. This
> >> was unique. You will be reading more about it as the books come out.
> >> Larry
> >
> >Must be some real winners as authors if it is taking them this long...
>
> Book publishers are NOT going to undertake the risk of revealing dirt
> on the Clintons until they are off the stage. As you know, both
> Clintons are still endeavoring out there-- they have many supporters
> who want them to win something and take them along-- so that machine
> will fight ferociously any attempt to tell tales about the Clintons.
>
> The books won't be written (or at least published) until history has
> moved on --
>
> Larry

These would be the same weaselly publishers that have no problem
publishing "State of Denial" about the sitting President, would it? Oh,
yes, but then we know these are all part of a terrible liberal-left
conspiracy designed to undermine the security of this country.

The books won't be written because a) these folks can't write, and b)
they actually have nothing to write about that wouldn't land them in
court.

William Clark

Date: 05 Oct 2006 01:12:59
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:46:47 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com >
wrote:

>Book publishers are NOT going to undertake the risk of revealing dirt
>on the Clintons until they are off the stage. As you know, both
>Clintons are still endeavoring out there-- they have many supporters
>who want them to win something and take them along-- so that machine
>will fight ferociously any attempt to tell tales about the Clintons.

Have you been to a book store lately? Sure, there are much more
anti-Bush books there, but he's the guy in power now.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 11:01:50
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:12:59 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:46:47 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Book publishers are NOT going to undertake the risk of revealing dirt
>>on the Clintons until they are off the stage. As you know, both
>>Clintons are still endeavoring out there-- they have many supporters
>>who want them to win something and take them along-- so that machine
>>will fight ferociously any attempt to tell tales about the Clintons.
>
>Have you been to a book store lately? Sure, there are much more
>anti-Bush books there, but he's the guy in power now.

Are you one of those who deny that there is a solid front of
anti-conservatives in the media and education and Hollywood? They
voted 90% democratic-- they need have no fear for writing another
bash-Bush book. They are liberal--until a conservative wants to
speak or write.

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 21:46:52
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:01:50 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com >
wrote:

>>Have you been to a book store lately? Sure, there are much more
>>anti-Bush books there, but he's the guy in power now.
>
>Are you one of those who deny that there is a solid front of
>anti-conservatives in the media and education and Hollywood? They
>voted 90% democratic-- they need have no fear for writing another
>bash-Bush book. They are liberal--until a conservative wants to
>speak or write.

Read what you quoted and answer your question.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:16:24
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <1159994729.384281.159390@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > > >
> > > > Tex wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> > > >
> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> > > > just me.
> > > >
> > > >>Clinton had sex with
> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> > > >
> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> > > > actually!
> > >
> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
> > > in
> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> > > their
> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
> > > the
> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >
> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>
> Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>
> Tex

I didn't say it was all right, but it wasn't with a child as all too
many want to make it out to be.

And just for your info, the President doesn't come under the UCMJ at all.

And to just carry it on a bit further. Powerful men have always
attracted pretty young women, many powerful men, including some past
presidents on both sides of the spectrum have succumbed to the allure.
What was different with Clinton was somebody asked the question, which
was NEVER done with a sitting president in our history.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 17:33:37
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-15D9AD.16162404102006@individual.net...
> In article <1159994729.384281.159390@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> > > >
>> > > > Tex wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>> > > >> harmless,
>> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> > > >
>> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>> > > > merely
>> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>> > > > group,
>> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>> > > > that's
>> > > > just me.
>> > > >
>> > > >>Clinton had sex with
>> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> > > >
>> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
>> > > > fun,
>> > > > actually!
>> > >
>> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>> > > check
>> > > in
>> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>> > > their
>> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
>> > > as
>> > > the
>> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >
>> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>>
>> Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>>
>> Tex
>
> I didn't say it was all right, but it wasn't with a child as all too
> many want to make it out to be.
>
> And just for your info, the President doesn't come under the UCMJ at all.
>
> And to just carry it on a bit further. Powerful men have always
> attracted pretty young women, many powerful men, including some past
> presidents on both sides of the spectrum have succumbed to the allure.
> What was different with Clinton was somebody asked the question, which
> was NEVER done with a sitting president in our history.

She kept the dress and there is DNA evidence and what's her name recorder
her. This is nothing compared to what Bush does in other areas but let's be
even handed. You can't critisize one guy and give a free ride to the other.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 10:51:44
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:33:37 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
<goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:

>
>"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>news:lloydparsons-15D9AD.16162404102006@individual.net...
>> In article <1159994729.384281.159390@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
>> "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> > > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Tex wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>>> > > >> harmless,
>>> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>>> > > > merely
>>> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>>> > > > group,
>>> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>>> > > > that's
>>> > > > just me.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >>Clinton had sex with
>>> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>>> > > >
>>> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
>>> > > > fun,
>>> > > > actually!
>>> > >
>>> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>>> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>>> > > check
>>> > > in
>>> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>>> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>>> > > their
>>> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
>>> > > as
>>> > > the
>>> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>>> >
>>> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>>>
>>> Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>>> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>>> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>>>
>>> Tex
>>
>> I didn't say it was all right, but it wasn't with a child as all too
>> many want to make it out to be.
>>
>> And just for your info, the President doesn't come under the UCMJ at all.
>>
>> And to just carry it on a bit further. Powerful men have always
>> attracted pretty young women, many powerful men, including some past
>> presidents on both sides of the spectrum have succumbed to the allure.
>> What was different with Clinton was somebody asked the question, which
>> was NEVER done with a sitting president in our history.
>
>She kept the dress and there is DNA evidence and what's her name recorder
>her. This is nothing compared to what Bush does in other areas but let's be
>even handed. You can't critisize one guy and give a free ride to the other.

Bush is a squeaky clean born again Christian man. He has no personal
problems. He has brought no shame on the Texas Governorship or the
presidency. He is a deacon in his church and extremely well-respected
by a thousand close friends of the James Baker class. He is doing
his best during the most difficult 8 years of the US presidency since
Lincoln's time. History will recognize that-- and his couragous
decisiveness in spite of almost overwhelming opposition. He may be
remembered as a man in Lincoln's class as a resolute leader. Unlike
Clinton or Carter, he made a difference.

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 12:58:44
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:8bhai2d6tsgh0ddcjtf7ortk21kl0huchv@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:33:37 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
> <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>>news:lloydparsons-15D9AD.16162404102006@individual.net...
>>> In article <1159994729.384281.159390@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
>>> "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>>>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> > > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Tex wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>>>> > > >> harmless,
>>>> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>>>> > > > merely
>>>> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>>>> > > > group,
>>>> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>>>> > > > that's
>>>> > > > just me.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >>Clinton had sex with
>>>> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
>>>> > > > kinda
>>>> > > > fun,
>>>> > > > actually!
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
>>>> > > taking
>>>> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>>>> > > check
>>>> > > in
>>>> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
>>>> > > of
>>>> > > their
>>>> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
>>>> > > as
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>>>> >
>>>> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>>>> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>>>> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>>>>
>>>> Tex
>>>
>>> I didn't say it was all right, but it wasn't with a child as all too
>>> many want to make it out to be.
>>>
>>> And just for your info, the President doesn't come under the UCMJ at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> And to just carry it on a bit further. Powerful men have always
>>> attracted pretty young women, many powerful men, including some past
>>> presidents on both sides of the spectrum have succumbed to the allure.
>>> What was different with Clinton was somebody asked the question, which
>>> was NEVER done with a sitting president in our history.
>>
>>She kept the dress and there is DNA evidence and what's her name recorder
>>her. This is nothing compared to what Bush does in other areas but let's
>>be
>>even handed. You can't critisize one guy and give a free ride to the
>>other.
>
> Bush is a squeaky clean born again Christian man. He has no personal
> problems. He has brought no shame on the Texas Governorship or the
> presidency. He is a deacon in his church and extremely well-respected
> by a thousand close friends of the James Baker class. He is doing
> his best during the most difficult 8 years of the US presidency since
> Lincoln's time. History will recognize that-- and his couragous
> decisiveness in spite of almost overwhelming opposition. He may be
> remembered as a man in Lincoln's class as a resolute leader. Unlike
> Clinton or Carter, he made a difference.
>
> Larry

Somebody has to be a whipping boy or we have no conversation when talking
about such a lopsided idiot. Thank you sir.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 13:29:12
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:8bhai2d6tsgh0ddcjtf7ortk21kl0huchv@4ax.com...
.
>
> Bush is a squeaky clean born again Christian man. He has no personal
> problems.

Man, I'm a Bush supporter but I wouldnt go that far. He's a politician, he
can't possibly be squeaky clean.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 23:35:07
From: JJK
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Lllarry" wrote:
> > Bush is a squeaky clean born again Christian man. He has no personal
> > problems.

"MnMikew" wrote:
> Man, I'm a Bush supporter but I wouldnt go that far. He's a politician, he
> can't possibly be squeaky clean.

Why not? All that ethanol he drank years ago must have acted as a good
solvent.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 17:58:35
From: Ernie
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <8bhai2d6tsgh0ddcjtf7ortk21kl0huchv@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:33:37 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
> <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >news:lloydparsons-15D9AD.16162404102006@individual.net...
> >> In article <1159994729.384281.159390@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> >> "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >>> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> > > news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Tex wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >>> > > >> harmless,
> >>> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >>> > > > merely
> >>> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >>> > > > group,
> >>> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >>> > > > that's
> >>> > > > just me.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >>Clinton had sex with
> >>> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >>> > > > fun,
> >>> > > > actually!
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >>> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >>> > > check
> >>> > > in
> >>> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >>> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >>> > > their
> >>> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
> >>> > > as
> >>> > > the
> >>> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >>> >
> >>> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> >>> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >>> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >>>
> >>> Tex
> >>
> >> I didn't say it was all right, but it wasn't with a child as all too
> >> many want to make it out to be.
> >>
> >> And just for your info, the President doesn't come under the UCMJ at all.
> >>
> >> And to just carry it on a bit further. Powerful men have always
> >> attracted pretty young women, many powerful men, including some past
> >> presidents on both sides of the spectrum have succumbed to the allure.
> >> What was different with Clinton was somebody asked the question, which
> >> was NEVER done with a sitting president in our history.
> >
> >She kept the dress and there is DNA evidence and what's her name recorder
> >her. This is nothing compared to what Bush does in other areas but let's be
> >even handed. You can't critisize one guy and give a free ride to the other.
>
> Bush is a squeaky clean born again Christian man. He has no personal

Except for the cocaine...

> problems. He has brought no shame on the Texas Governorship or the
> presidency. He is a deacon in his church and extremely well-respected
> by a thousand close friends of the James Baker class. He is doing

You really do engage in the stupidest forms of ideological worship,
Larry.

"a thousand close friends"? Please. If there are a thousand, they aren't
close.

> his best during the most difficult 8 years of the US presidency since
> Lincoln's time. History will recognize that-- and his couragous
> decisiveness in spite of almost overwhelming opposition. He may be
> remembered as a man in Lincoln's class as a resolute leader. Unlike
> Clinton or Carter, he made a difference.

Sorry, Larry. Clinton was a good president; despite having many
ideological differences from myself, I can say this. Bush is a buffoon.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:21:47
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

long&left wrote:
> Ben. wrote:
> > tiggerspalewife wrote:
> >> In article <1159908624.873192.223380@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ironic that a school is being named after the duh.
> >
> > I guess you've never been to Stockton...then you might understand.
> >
>
> hey Ben, you don't live here anymore so no fair making fun of Stockton :)

If you wanna step up, I'd be glad to recant. But it is freaking
_Stockton_...not the cultural vortex of the universe...

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:20:46
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Tex wrote:

> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.

Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
"overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
just me.

>Clinton had sex with
> an intern and got a pass from your party...

All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
actually!

Date: 04 Oct 2006 12:03:36
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> Tex wrote:
>
>> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
>> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>
> Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> just me.
>
>>Clinton had sex with
>> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>
> All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> actually!

Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of their
lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as the
girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 15:11:14
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02 >,
"AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:

> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Tex wrote:
> >
> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >
> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> > just me.
> >
> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >
> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> > actually!
>
> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of their
> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as the
> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.

Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 17:31:39
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Tex wrote:
>> >
>> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
>> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >
>> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
>> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
>> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
>> > just me.
>> >
>> >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >
>> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
>> > actually!
>>
>> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
>> in
>> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>> their
>> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
>> the
>> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>
> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?

I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low and
I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can be
objective.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 10:48:02
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:31:39 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
<goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:

>
>"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
>> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>> >
>>> > Tex wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
>>> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>>> >
>>> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
>>> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
>>> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
>>> > just me.
>>> >
>>> >>Clinton had sex with
>>> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>>> >
>>> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
>>> > actually!
>>>
>>> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>>> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
>>> in
>>> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>>> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>>> their
>>> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
>>> the
>>> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>>
>> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>
>I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low and
>I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
>Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can be
>objective.

If she was not very bright (hardly likely scenario for a White House
Intern) it would have been even more reprehensible for that fat
bastard to take advantage of her. He should pick on retards, they are
even easier to impress!!

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 20:09:36
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Exactly WHY are we in IRAQ?

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:35:14 -0700, larry wrote:

> Do some reading-- GW Bush does.

That's hilarious. The last book he read was about a goat.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 15:26:35
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <38hai2h4og0ga6dgbaoolnik2ciopjf1ib@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:31:39 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
> <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >>> >
> >>> > Tex wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> >>> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >>> >
> >>> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> >>> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> >>> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> >>> > just me.
> >>> >
> >>> >>Clinton had sex with
> >>> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >>> >
> >>> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> >>> > actually!
> >>>
> >>> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >>> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
> >>> in
> >>> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >>> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >>> their
> >>> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
> >>> the
> >>> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >>
> >> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >
> >I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low and
> >I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
> >Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can be
> >objective.
>
> If she was not very bright (hardly likely scenario for a White House
> Intern) it would have been even more reprehensible for that fat
> bastard to take advantage of her. He should pick on retards, they are
> even easier to impress!!
>
> Larry

Yes, but to the best my knowledge you weren't available. Besides, you
are hardly his type.

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:44:23
From: multi
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:31:39 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
<goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:
>> Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>
>I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low and
>I think that should be taken ino consideration.

Come on. She was a college graduate, and no matter what you look
like, you have to get some very strong recommendations to even be
considered for a WH internship. It takes about ten minutes at a
shopping mall to find better looking women than her with absolute
loser boyfriends/husbands.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02 >,
"AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:

> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >
> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> >> > just me.
> >> >
> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >
> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> >> > actually!
> >>
> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
> >> in
> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> their
> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
> >> the
> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >
> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>
> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low and
> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can be
> objective.

I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 10:56:00
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:

>In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
>> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > Tex wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
>> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >> >
>> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
>> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
>> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
>> >> > just me.
>> >> >
>> >> >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >> >
>> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
>> >> > actually!
>> >>
>> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
>> >> in
>> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>> >> their
>> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
>> >> the
>> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >
>> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>>
>> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low and
>> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
>> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can be
>> objective.
>
>I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
>man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.

Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
"sexual predation." It is little different than rape.

larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 18:07:14
From: Ernie
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <5nhai2dq9lpchvtv845un1kijej3f33lht@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> > merely
> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> >> > that's
> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >> >> > fun,
> >> >> > actually!
> >> >>
> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> >> check
> >> >> in
> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> >> their
> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
> >> >> the
> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >
> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >>
> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low
> >> and
> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can
> >> be
> >> objective.
> >
> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
>
> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.

So then Foley would also be guilty under this law, would he not?

BTW, can you quote it? Provide a reference to it? Anything?

Date: 05 Oct 2006 13:47:45
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Ernie" <ernie@pga.org > wrote in message
news:ernie-5195F4.11071405102006@news.telus.net...
> In article <5nhai2dq9lpchvtv845un1kijej3f33lht@4ax.com>,
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
>> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
>> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Tex wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>> >> >> >> harmless,
>> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>> >> >> > merely
>> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>> >> >> > group,
>> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>> >> >> > that's
>> >> >> > just me.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
>> >> >> > kinda
>> >> >> > fun,
>> >> >> > actually!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
>> >> >> taking
>> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>> >> >> check
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> their
>> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>> >>
>> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty
>> >> low
>> >> and
>> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of
>> >> the
>> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I
>> >> can
>> >> be
>> >> objective.
>> >
>> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
>> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
>>
>> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
>> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
>
> So then Foley would also be guilty under this law, would he not?
>
> BTW, can you quote it? Provide a reference to it? Anything?

I think the only thing they can get him for is soliciting sex from a minor
over the net. Though it now sounds like the Page was 18 at the time of the
IMs.
Everyone on Dateline was charged with this. You would think the publicity
that Dateline generated about this people would learn.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 18:49:26
From: Ernie
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <4ol2aiFevobnU1@individual.net >,
"MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote:

> "Ernie" <ernie@pga.org> wrote in message
> news:ernie-5195F4.11071405102006@news.telus.net...
> > In article <5nhai2dq9lpchvtv845un1kijej3f33lht@4ax.com>,
> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> >> >> harmless,
> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> >> > merely
> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> >> > group,
> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> >> >> > that's
> >> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
> >> >> >> > kinda
> >> >> >> > fun,
> >> >> >> > actually!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
> >> >> >> taking
> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> >> >> check
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> their
> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty
> >> >> low
> >> >> and
> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of
> >> >> the
> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I
> >> >> can
> >> >> be
> >> >> objective.
> >> >
> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
> >>
> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
> >
> > So then Foley would also be guilty under this law, would he not?
> >
> > BTW, can you quote it? Provide a reference to it? Anything?
>
> I think the only thing they can get him for is soliciting sex from a minor
> over the net. Though it now sounds like the Page was 18 at the time of the
> IMs.
> Everyone on Dateline was charged with this. You would think the publicity
> that Dateline generated about this people would learn.

You're missing the point. Larry is waving the "but look what Clinton
did!" flag and claiming Clinton's actions were "criminal".

I'd just like him to quote the statute.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 12:40:07
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:49:26 GMT, Ernie <ernie@pga.org > wrote:

>In article <4ol2aiFevobnU1@individual.net>,
> "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> "Ernie" <ernie@pga.org> wrote in message
>> news:ernie-5195F4.11071405102006@news.telus.net...
>> > In article <5nhai2dq9lpchvtv845un1kijej3f33lht@4ax.com>,
>> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
>> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
>> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
>> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>> >> >> >> >> harmless,
>> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>> >> >> >> > merely
>> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>> >> >> >> > group,
>> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>> >> >> >> > that's
>> >> >> >> > just me.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
>> >> >> >> > kinda
>> >> >> >> > fun,
>> >> >> >> > actually!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
>> >> >> >> taking
>> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>> >> >> >> check
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> their
>> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty
>> >> >> low
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> objective.
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
>> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
>> >>
>> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
>> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
>> >
>> > So then Foley would also be guilty under this law, would he not?
>> >
>> > BTW, can you quote it? Provide a reference to it? Anything?
>>
>> I think the only thing they can get him for is soliciting sex from a minor
>> over the net. Though it now sounds like the Page was 18 at the time of the
>> IMs.
>> Everyone on Dateline was charged with this. You would think the publicity
>> that Dateline generated about this people would learn.
>
>You're missing the point. Larry is waving the "but look what Clinton
>did!" flag and claiming Clinton's actions were "criminal".

The statues got Clinton impeached and disbarred. He will be
remembered as the criminal sex predator who accidently became
president. I believe he may be remembered for far worse when the
truth comes out about what he traded to our enemies for campaign
contributions. It is called treason.

We elected someone President who could not have gotten sufficient
security clearance to be a Navy Ensign-- and he did in office exactly
what his resume would have predicted.

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 20:00:01
From: Ernie
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <vknai2h7bs5t9ab09sfr88df2nat09vrvs@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:49:26 GMT, Ernie <ernie@pga.org> wrote:
>
> >In article <4ol2aiFevobnU1@individual.net>,
> > "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Ernie" <ernie@pga.org> wrote in message
> >> news:ernie-5195F4.11071405102006@news.telus.net...
> >> > In article <5nhai2dq9lpchvtv845un1kijej3f33lht@4ax.com>,
> >> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> >> >> >> harmless,
> >> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> >> >> > merely
> >> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> >> >> > group,
> >> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting.
> >> >> >> >> > But
> >> >> >> >> > that's
> >> >> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
> >> >> >> >> > kinda
> >> >> >> >> > fun,
> >> >> >> >> > actually!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
> >> >> >> >> taking
> >> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> check
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> their
> >> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives
> >> >> >> >> known
> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
> >> >> >> > play?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty
> >> >> >> low
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> can
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> objective.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a
> >> >> >powerful
> >> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
> >> >>
> >> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
> >> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
> >> >
> >> > So then Foley would also be guilty under this law, would he not?
> >> >
> >> > BTW, can you quote it? Provide a reference to it? Anything?
> >>
> >> I think the only thing they can get him for is soliciting sex from a minor
> >> over the net. Though it now sounds like the Page was 18 at the time of the
> >> IMs.
> >> Everyone on Dateline was charged with this. You would think the publicity
> >> that Dateline generated about this people would learn.
> >
> >You're missing the point. Larry is waving the "but look what Clinton
> >did!" flag and claiming Clinton's actions were "criminal".
>
> The statues got Clinton impeached and disbarred. He will be
> remembered as the criminal sex predator who accidently became
> president. I believe he may be remembered for far worse when the
> truth comes out about what he traded to our enemies for campaign
> contributions. It is called treason.

Please, Larry. One "crime" at a time.

You've claimed that there was a criminal statute breached when Clinton
and Lewinsky had sex. Now provide a reference...

>
> We elected someone President who could not have gotten sufficient
> security clearance to be a Navy Ensign-- and he did in office exactly
> what his resume would have predicted.

Keep drinking that koolaid!

Date: 06 Oct 2006 00:13:34
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Exactly WHY are we in IRAQ?

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:50:54 -0700, larry wrote:

> This is my last post on this subject. Your irrational hatred is
> tiresome and boring. Your hatred is IRRATIONAL because you really have
> no reason to hate the man other than your blind partisanship, you resent
> that a republican became president.

This is my last post on this subject. Your irrational hatred is tiresome
and boring. Your hatred is IRRATIONAL because you really have no reason
to hate the man other than your blind partisanship, you resent that a
democrat became president.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 15:48:35
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:00:01 GMT, Ernie <ernie@pga.org > wrote:
>
>You've claimed that there was a criminal statute breached when Clinton
>and Lewinsky had sex. Now provide a reference...

I "claimed" that seducing a subordinate is a civil violation and a
crime in some states.

Clinton was sued by the women he sexually harassed in Arkansas-- They
didn't have the money to persist-- or they would have taken him to the
cleaners.

Larry

Date: 06 Oct 2006 02:27:31
From: Ernie
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Date: 06 Oct 2006 02:26:27
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <uo2bi2tc3opdlinlim7530s8lofmc2l658@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:00:01 GMT, Ernie <ernie@pga.org> wrote:
> >
> >You've claimed that there was a criminal statute breached when Clinton
> >and Lewinsky had sex. Now provide a reference...
>
> I "claimed" that seducing a subordinate is a civil violation and a
> crime in some states.

Nope. You claimed he'd committed a criminal act. Shall I give you links
to the various posts.

How about showing some integrity and admitting you were making it up
(and still making it up about it being a "crime in some states")?

>
> Clinton was sued by the women he sexually harassed in Arkansas-- They
> didn't have the money to persist-- or they would have taken him to the
> cleaners.

Which has what to do with your inability to show a single actual
reference to a criminal law that applies?

--
'It's obvious to all that my predictions were wrong. Shall I also
admit the sky is blue?'

'Isn't it funny that Final Cut Pro is nowhere to be seen at Pixar? They're
an all PC shop. ' -- 'me finally admitting that Pixar isn't an all PC shop.'

'... when most Pixar movies were made ... Final Cut Pro didn't even exist.'
-- 'So sue me. I just wrote my reks off the top of my head.'

'It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix.'

Date: 05 Oct 2006 14:23:47
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Ernie" <ernie@pga.org > wrote in message
news:ernie-464FD1.11492605102006@news.telus.net...
> In article <4ol2aiFevobnU1@individual.net>,
> "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> "Ernie" <ernie@pga.org> wrote in message
>> news:ernie-5195F4.11071405102006@news.telus.net...
>> > In article <5nhai2dq9lpchvtv845un1kijej3f33lht@4ax.com>,
>> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
>> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
>> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
>> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>> >> >> >> >> harmless,
>> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > merely
>> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>> >> >> >> > group,
>> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting.
>> >> >> >> > But
>> >> >> >> > that's
>> >> >> >> > just me.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
>> >> >> >> > kinda
>> >> >> >> > fun,
>> >> >> >> > actually!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
>> >> >> >> taking
>> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> check
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the
>> >> >> >> rest
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> their
>> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives
>> >> >> >> known
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
>> >> >> > play?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be
>> >> >> pretty
>> >> >> low
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> objective.
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a
>> >> >powerful
>> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
>> >>
>> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
>> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
>> >
>> > So then Foley would also be guilty under this law, would he not?
>> >
>> > BTW, can you quote it? Provide a reference to it? Anything?
>>
>> I think the only thing they can get him for is soliciting sex from a
>> minor
>> over the net. Though it now sounds like the Page was 18 at the time of
>> the
>> IMs.
>> Everyone on Dateline was charged with this. You would think the publicity
>> that Dateline generated about this people would learn.
>
> You're missing the point. Larry is waving the "but look what Clinton
> did!" flag and claiming Clinton's actions were "criminal".
>
> I'd just like him to quote the statute.

Well, if he was in ND it would have been. Clinton had far worse things to
fear than criminal charges, Hillary <shudder >.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 19:18:52
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-DAA9BC.20012504102006@individual.net...
> In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
>> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
>> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > Tex wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>> >> >> harmless,
>> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >> >
>> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>> >> > merely
>> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>> >> > group,
>> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>> >> > that's
>> >> > just me.
>> >> >
>> >> >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >> >
>> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
>> >> > fun,
>> >> > actually!
>> >>
>> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>> >> check
>> >> in
>> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>> >> their
>> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
>> >> the
>> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >
>> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>>
>> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low
>> and
>> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
>> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can
>> be
>> objective.
>
> I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
> man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.

Just tell me. It's ok for anybody over 18 to give or get blow jobs from
whoever they choose, right?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 22:21:00
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <T3_Ug.1682$v43.1541@fed1read02 >,
"AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:

> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:lloydparsons-DAA9BC.20012504102006@individual.net...
> > In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> >> harmless,
> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> > merely
> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> > group,
> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> >> > that's
> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >> >> > fun,
> >> >> > actually!
> >> >>
> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> >> check
> >> >> in
> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> >> their
> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
> >> >> the
> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >
> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >>
> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low
> >> and
> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can
> >> be
> >> objective.
> >
> > I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
> > man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
>
> Just tell me. It's ok for anybody over 18 to give or get blow jobs from
> whoever they choose, right?

Didn't say it was OK, just stated a fact.

But you know that blow jobs don't count, don't you? ;-)

Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:30:04
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Chris Bellomy wrote:
> MnMikew <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
> :
> : "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
> : news:1159973598.362202.61890@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> :>
> :> Larry Bud wrote:
> :>> > So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
> :>> > children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite scumbag
> :>> > bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.
> :>>
> :>> Hypocritical, yes, but he did pass good legislation. Before you go
> :>> nuts, this does not absolve him of anything.
> :>>
> :>> I guess he should have just hired a male prostitute.
> :>
> :> Then he'd be a Democrat.
> :>
> : Naw, a Dem would still be in office.
>
> Uh, he stayed in office for TEN YEARS after this habit became
> known to the leadership, so you can climb the fuck down from that
> particular high horse now.

Which habit is that?

The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
show nothing but someone being overly friendly. Clinton had sex with
an intern and got a pass from your party...there were also other cases
of your party having sex with underage boys/girls...so until you can
show at the very least some sexual contact, you've got no pot to piss
in.

And making up the truth and repeating it won't pass muster...

Tex

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:19:17
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

I realize Tex is one of the best golfers on this ng, according to reputation
but if that guy was just overly friendly then John Van Devvelt had a small
glitch at The Open.

"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159983004.100616.89590@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Chris Bellomy wrote:
>> MnMikew <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
>> :
>> : "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> : news:1159973598.362202.61890@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> :>
>> :> Larry Bud wrote:
>> :>> > So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
>> :>> > children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite
>> scumbag
>> :>> > bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck
>> stick.
>> :>>
>> :>> Hypocritical, yes, but he did pass good legislation. Before you go
>> :>> nuts, this does not absolve him of anything.
>> :>>
>> :>> I guess he should have just hired a male prostitute.
>> :>
>> :> Then he'd be a Democrat.
>> :>
>> : Naw, a Dem would still be in office.
>>
>> Uh, he stayed in office for TEN YEARS after this habit became
>> known to the leadership, so you can climb the fuck down from that
>> particular high horse now.
>
> Which habit is that?
>
> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> show nothing but someone being overly friendly. Clinton had sex with
> an intern and got a pass from your party...there were also other cases
> of your party having sex with underage boys/girls...so until you can
> show at the very least some sexual contact, you've got no pot to piss
> in.
>
> And making up the truth and repeating it won't pass muster...
>
> Tex
>

Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:16:21
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <1159983004.100616.89590@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:

> Chris Bellomy wrote:
> > MnMikew <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
> > :
> > : "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > : news:1159973598.362202.61890@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > :>
> > :> Larry Bud wrote:
> > :>> > So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
> > :>> > children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite
> > :>> > scumbag
> > :>> > bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.
> > :>>
> > :>> Hypocritical, yes, but he did pass good legislation. Before you go
> > :>> nuts, this does not absolve him of anything.
> > :>>
> > :>> I guess he should have just hired a male prostitute.
> > :>
> > :> Then he'd be a Democrat.
> > :>
> > : Naw, a Dem would still be in office.
> >
> > Uh, he stayed in office for TEN YEARS after this habit became
> > known to the leadership, so you can climb the fuck down from that
> > particular high horse now.
>
> Which habit is that?
>
> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> show nothing but someone being overly friendly. Clinton had sex with
> an intern and got a pass from your party...there were also other cases
> of your party having sex with underage boys/girls...so until you can
> show at the very least some sexual contact, you've got no pot to piss
> in.

First, he was busy promoting himself as a protector of the young from
sexual predators (takes one to know one, I suppose). His e-mails to the
page were utterly inappropriate, even if they were not explicit.
However, he also has a trail of e-mails to underage boys in Florida that
are directly explicit.

Where I come from, it's how we spell "hypocrisy".

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 08:06:11
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Tex wrote:
> John B. wrote:
> > Ben. wrote:
> > > If Foley was one of these sick fucks who gets spun out in an FBI sting
> > > - the ones where they troll for old perverts and then bust them when
> > > they show up to meet the "teenager" in question - he'd be in jail, not
> > > some fucking alcohol rehab center. Classy move - in essence blaming
> > > alcohol for his sick behavioral disorder.
> > >
> > > Anyway, The Big Chief had this to say about his fellow Republican:
> > >
> > > "I was dismayed and shocked to learn about Congressman Foley's
> > > unacceptable behavior," he said while visiting George W. Bush
> > > Elementary School in Stockton, California. "I was disgusted by the
> > > revelations and disappointed that he would violate the trust of the
> > > citizens who placed him in office.
> > >
> > > "The families have every right to expect that when they send their
> > > children to be a congressional page in Washington that they'll be
> > > respected."
> > >
> > > First time in a long time, possibly ever, that I am in 100%, blanket
> > > agreement with Dub.
> > >
> > > So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
> > > children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite scumbag
> > > bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.
> >
> >
> > Hold on, there. Now he's saying it wasn't just alcohol that sent him
> > around the bend. He's saying he was sexually abused as a kid. By a
> > priest! Poor little ky-poo. He's not to blame for his sick behavior.
> > He's a VICTIM.
>
> He's been trained well by the Liberals.
>
> Tex

Hey, that's really clever, Tex.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 08:03:23
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

the Moderator wrote:
> "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159969275.392954.83590@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> > Aside from his Harvard MBA, can you think of anything GWB has ever said
> > or done that shows he's st?
> >
>
> He was a fighter pilot, he beat the Democrats...twice.

That's it? That's all you've got?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 12:23:28
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159974203.048542.301770@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> the Moderator wrote:
>> "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1159969275.392954.83590@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Aside from his Harvard MBA, can you think of anything GWB has ever said
>> > or done that shows he's st?
>> >
>>
>> He was a fighter pilot, he beat the Democrats...twice.
>
>
> That's it? That's all you've got?
>
Far more than the Dems have.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 07:55:26
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

John B. wrote:
> Ben. wrote:
> > If Foley was one of these sick fucks who gets spun out in an FBI sting
> > - the ones where they troll for old perverts and then bust them when
> > they show up to meet the "teenager" in question - he'd be in jail, not
> > some fucking alcohol rehab center. Classy move - in essence blaming
> > alcohol for his sick behavioral disorder.
> >
> > Anyway, The Big Chief had this to say about his fellow Republican:
> >
> > "I was dismayed and shocked to learn about Congressman Foley's
> > unacceptable behavior," he said while visiting George W. Bush
> > Elementary School in Stockton, California. "I was disgusted by the
> > revelations and disappointed that he would violate the trust of the
> > citizens who placed him in office.
> >
> > "The families have every right to expect that when they send their
> > children to be a congressional page in Washington that they'll be
> > respected."
> >
> > First time in a long time, possibly ever, that I am in 100%, blanket
> > agreement with Dub.
> >
> > So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
> > children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite scumbag
> > bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.
>
>
> Hold on, there. Now he's saying it wasn't just alcohol that sent him
> around the bend. He's saying he was sexually abused as a kid. By a
> priest! Poor little ky-poo. He's not to blame for his sick behavior.
> He's a VICTIM.

He's been trained well by the Liberals.

Tex

Date: 04 Oct 2006 07:53:18
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Larry Bud wrote:
> > So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
> > children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite scumbag
> > bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.
>
> Hypocritical, yes, but he did pass good legislation. Before you go
> nuts, this does not absolve him of anything.
>
> I guess he should have just hired a male prostitute.

Then he'd be a Democrat.

Tex

Date: 04 Oct 2006 15:23:48
From:
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

larry wrote:
> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> > > > Tex wrote:
> >>
> >> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> >> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >>
> >> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> >> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> >> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> >> > > > just me.
> >>
> >> > > >>Clinton had sex with
> >> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >>
> >> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> >> > > > actually!
> >>
> >> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
> >> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of their
> >> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as the
> >> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >>
> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> >> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >>
> >> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
> >
> >Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
> >adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
> >either.
>
> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
>
> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
>
> Larry

There are still troops complaining they don't have adequate body
armour. Are they lying or are you misinformed?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 15:58:07
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On 4 Oct 2006 15:23:48 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:

>
>larry wrote:
>> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >>
>> >> > > > Tex wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
>> >> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >>
>> >> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
>> >> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
>> >> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
>> >> > > > just me.
>> >>
>> >> > > >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >>
>> >> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
>> >> > > > actually!
>> >>
>> >> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> >> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
>> >> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> >> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of their
>> >> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as the
>> >> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >>
>> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
>> >> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>> >> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>> >>
>> >> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>> >
>> >Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
>> >adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
>> >either.
>>
>> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
>> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
>> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
>> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
>>
>> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
>>
>> Larry
>
>There are still troops complaining they don't have adequate body
>armour. Are they lying or are you misinformed?

There were troops complaining about the poor quality of their swords
in the Roman Army. 20 years ago we were complaining about dozens of
things we thought were urgent problems when I was in subines.

The troops will always be complaining. The leaders can only do what
they can do -- making hard choices while constantly caught between the
rock of budget constraint and the hard place of troop safety, etc. Of
course everyone wants everything for everyone of them. Lets get real.
Larry

Date: 04 Oct 2006 17:37:01
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:fse8i2hnbfghk9lmk96fhatt97n4k51h9o@4ax.com...
> On 4 Oct 2006 15:23:48 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>larry wrote:
>>> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>>> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> >> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> > > > Tex wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>>> >> > > >> harmless,
>>> >> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>>> >>
>>> >> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>>> >> > > > merely
>>> >> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>>> >> > > > group,
>>> >> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting.
>>> >> > > > But that's
>>> >> > > > just me.
>>> >>
>>> >> > > >>Clinton had sex with
>>> >> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>>> >>
>>> >> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
>>> >> > > > kinda fun,
>>> >> > > > actually!
>>> >>
>>> >> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
>>> >> > > taking
>>> >> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs
>>> >> > > to check in
>>> >> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
>>> >> > > the
>>> >> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
>>> >> > > of their
>>> >> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives
>>> >> > > known as the
>>> >> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>>> >>
>>> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
>>> >> > play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate.
>>> >> > Strictly
>>> >> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
>>> >> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
>>> >>
>>> >> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>>> >
>>> >Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
>>> >adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
>>> >either.
>>>
>>> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
>>> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
>>> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
>>> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
>>>
>>> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>
>>There are still troops complaining they don't have adequate body
>>armour. Are they lying or are you misinformed?
>
> There were troops complaining about the poor quality of their swords
> in the Roman Army. 20 years ago we were complaining about dozens of
> things we thought were urgent problems when I was in subines.
>
> The troops will always be complaining. The leaders can only do what
> they can do -- making hard choices while constantly caught between the
> rock of budget constraint and the hard place of troop safety, etc. Of
> course everyone wants everything for everyone of them. Lets get real.
> Larry

No offense but you're fucked up Larry.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 18:26:04
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:58:07 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com >
wrote:
> Lets get real.
>Larry

Great. Let's get out!
___,
\o

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:53:41
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:26:04 -0500, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:58:07 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com>
>wrote:
>> Lets get real.
>>Larry
>
>Great. Let's get out!

I really wish we could divide this country-- and defend our part with
aggressive pro-active actions such as Bush is doing with the NSA
spying and money tracing, Iraq, etc. and you and your ilk could have
your own country-- and just sit and erect walls and wait-- for the
other shoe to drop. When they nuked you or poisoned your water or
food, we would be sad, but then we told you so.

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 23:35:08
From: JJK
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Lllarry wrote:
> I really wish we could divide this country-- and defend our part with
> aggressive pro-active actions such as Bush is doing with the NSA
> spying and money tracing, Iraq, etc. and you and your ilk could have
> your own country-- and just sit and erect walls and wait-- for the
> other shoe to drop. When they nuked you or poisoned your water or
> food, we would be sad, but then we told you so.

Sounds like a good idea. Send us a postcard from your new country after you
leave the USA.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 19:03:27
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:53:41 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com >
wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:26:04 -0500, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:58:07 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Lets get real.
>>>Larry
>>
>>Great. Let's get out!
>
>I really wish we could divide this country-- and defend our part with
>aggressive pro-active actions such as Bush is doing with the NSA
>spying and money tracing, Iraq, etc. and you and your ilk could have
>your own country-- and just sit and erect walls and wait-- for the
>other shoe to drop. When they nuked you or poisoned your water or
>food, we would be sad, but then we told you so.
>
>Larry

So Dubya has made it all safe for us? You just aren't very st.
___,
\o

Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:01:20
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159973598.362202.61890@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> Larry Bud wrote:
>> > So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
>> > children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite scumbag
>> > bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.
>>
>> Hypocritical, yes, but he did pass good legislation. Before you go
>> nuts, this does not absolve him of anything.
>>
>> I guess he should have just hired a male prostitute.
>
> Then he'd be a Democrat.
>
> Tex
>
Naw, a Dem would still be in office.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 19:28:50
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

The_Professor wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <1160084315.220580.159470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "The_Professor" <dbid@att.net> wrote:
> >
> > > John B. wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Having a sexual relationship with a WILLING subordinate would not get
> > > > anybody fired from anywhere, unless the subordinate is a minor. Firing
> > > > someone for that could get the employer sued. I know people who dated
> > > > their subordinates at work and now they're ried to them.
> > > >
> > > > I asked you what law you were referring to that says consensual sex
> > > > between two adults is
> > > > "predation," and as I expected, you weren't able to come up with one.
> > >
> > > There is a recent case of a high school teacher being run out of
> > > teaching for having sex with a student who is of legal age. At the
> > > university level, it can get you fired if the student complains. It all
> > > depends upon the nature of the interaction. Taking a page on some trip
> > > and having sex with them is one thing. Sending them emails is another,
> > > IMHO. If sending emails results in disgrace, so should taking them on a
> > > trip and having sex with them. JMHO, of course. Getting hammered,
> > > driving a car, getting in an accident that results in a death is also a
> > > tad more serious than sending lurid emails, but that again is JMHO.
> >
> > Sigh.
> >
> > Can no one *read* anymore.
> >
> > John B. wasn't saying that there was nothing wrong with the behaviour.
> > He was just saying that Larry's claims that it was *criminal* are --
> > like so much of what Larry says -- just so much nonsense and hot air.
> >
>
> No kidding. The post I replied to said this: (see abouve!)
>
> "Having a sexual relationship with a WILLING subordinate would not get
> anybody fired from anywhere..."

OK, that might have been a little too strong. I realize there are some
work environments, such as schools, where that sort of thing shouldn't
be allowed. But it's not a crime on its face. If it were, my parents
might have been arrested for it and I might never have been born.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 16:02:25
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <1160084315.220580.159470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "The_Professor" <dbid@att.net> wrote:
>
> > John B. wrote:
> > >
> > > Having a sexual relationship with a WILLING subordinate would not get
> > > anybody fired from anywhere, unless the subordinate is a minor. Firing
> > > someone for that could get the employer sued. I know people who dated
> > > their subordinates at work and now they're ried to them.
> > >
> > > I asked you what law you were referring to that says consensual sex
> > > between two adults is
> > > "predation," and as I expected, you weren't able to come up with one.
> >
> > There is a recent case of a high school teacher being run out of
> > teaching for having sex with a student who is of legal age. At the
> > university level, it can get you fired if the student complains. It all
> > depends upon the nature of the interaction. Taking a page on some trip
> > and having sex with them is one thing. Sending them emails is another,
> > IMHO. If sending emails results in disgrace, so should taking them on a
> > trip and having sex with them. JMHO, of course. Getting hammered,
> > driving a car, getting in an accident that results in a death is also a
> > tad more serious than sending lurid emails, but that again is JMHO.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Can no one *read* anymore.
>
> John B. wasn't saying that there was nothing wrong with the behaviour.
> He was just saying that Larry's claims that it was *criminal* are --
> like so much of what Larry says -- just so much nonsense and hot air.
>

No kidding. The post I replied to said this: (see abouve!)

"Having a sexual relationship with a WILLING subordinate would not get
anybody fired from anywhere..."

Date: 05 Oct 2006 14:38:35
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

John B. wrote:
>
> Having a sexual relationship with a WILLING subordinate would not get
> anybody fired from anywhere, unless the subordinate is a minor. Firing
> someone for that could get the employer sued. I know people who dated
> their subordinates at work and now they're ried to them.
>
> I asked you what law you were referring to that says consensual sex
> between two adults is
> "predation," and as I expected, you weren't able to come up with one.

There is a recent case of a high school teacher being run out of
teaching for having sex with a student who is of legal age. At the
university level, it can get you fired if the student complains. It all
depends upon the nature of the interaction. Taking a page on some trip
and having sex with them is one thing. Sending them emails is another,
IMHO. If sending emails results in disgrace, so should taking them on a
trip and having sex with them. JMHO, of course. Getting hammered,
driving a car, getting in an accident that results in a death is also a
tad more serious than sending lurid emails, but that again is JMHO.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 20:41:02
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <1160084315.220580.159470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"The_Professor" <dbid@att.net > wrote:

> John B. wrote:
> >
> > Having a sexual relationship with a WILLING subordinate would not get
> > anybody fired from anywhere, unless the subordinate is a minor. Firing
> > someone for that could get the employer sued. I know people who dated
> > their subordinates at work and now they're ried to them.
> >
> > I asked you what law you were referring to that says consensual sex
> > between two adults is
> > "predation," and as I expected, you weren't able to come up with one.
>
> There is a recent case of a high school teacher being run out of
> teaching for having sex with a student who is of legal age. At the
> university level, it can get you fired if the student complains. It all
> depends upon the nature of the interaction. Taking a page on some trip
> and having sex with them is one thing. Sending them emails is another,
> IMHO. If sending emails results in disgrace, so should taking them on a
> trip and having sex with them. JMHO, of course. Getting hammered,
> driving a car, getting in an accident that results in a death is also a
> tad more serious than sending lurid emails, but that again is JMHO.

Higher education institutions all have explicit policies on
relationships, and the concern is that a faculty member not be involved
with any student whose grades he or she might influence. On top of that
there are clear policies concerning sexual harassment, but if neither of
these two conditions apply, then it is none of the University's
business, and they stay (rightly) out of it.

Welcome once again to LarryWorld.

William Clark

Date: 06 Oct 2006 03:17:26
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"William A. T. Clark" wrote:

> In article <1160084315.220580.159470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "The_Professor" <dbid@att.net> wrote:
>
> > John B. wrote:
> > >
> > > Having a sexual relationship with a WILLING subordinate would not get
> > > anybody fired from anywhere, unless the subordinate is a minor. Firing
> > > someone for that could get the employer sued. I know people who dated
> > > their subordinates at work and now they're ried to them.
> > >
> > > I asked you what law you were referring to that says consensual sex
> > > between two adults is
> > > "predation," and as I expected, you weren't able to come up with one.
> >
> > There is a recent case of a high school teacher being run out of
> > teaching for having sex with a student who is of legal age. At the
> > university level, it can get you fired if the student complains. It all
> > depends upon the nature of the interaction. Taking a page on some trip
> > and having sex with them is one thing. Sending them emails is another,
> > IMHO. If sending emails results in disgrace, so should taking them on a
> > trip and having sex with them. JMHO, of course. Getting hammered,
> > driving a car, getting in an accident that results in a death is also a
> > tad more serious than sending lurid emails, but that again is JMHO.
>
> Higher education institutions all have explicit policies on
> relationships, and the concern is that a faculty member not be involved
> with any student whose grades he or she might influence. On top of that
> there are clear policies concerning sexual harassment, but if neither of
> these two conditions apply, then it is none of the University's
> business, and they stay (rightly) out of it.
>

Nothing there I wouldn't disagree with, but if the student complains, you
could be in a lot of trouble, especially with traditional undegrads.

Date: 06 Oct 2006 06:46:08
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <4525C8F5.AA46E489@att.net >, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net>
wrote:

> "William A. T. Clark" wrote:
>
> > In article <1160084315.220580.159470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "The_Professor" <dbid@att.net> wrote:
> >
> > > John B. wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Having a sexual relationship with a WILLING subordinate would not get
> > > > anybody fired from anywhere, unless the subordinate is a minor. Firing
> > > > someone for that could get the employer sued. I know people who dated
> > > > their subordinates at work and now they're ried to them.
> > > >
> > > > I asked you what law you were referring to that says consensual sex
> > > > between two adults is
> > > > "predation," and as I expected, you weren't able to come up with one.
> > >
> > > There is a recent case of a high school teacher being run out of
> > > teaching for having sex with a student who is of legal age. At the
> > > university level, it can get you fired if the student complains. It all
> > > depends upon the nature of the interaction. Taking a page on some trip
> > > and having sex with them is one thing. Sending them emails is another,
> > > IMHO. If sending emails results in disgrace, so should taking them on a
> > > trip and having sex with them. JMHO, of course. Getting hammered,
> > > driving a car, getting in an accident that results in a death is also a
> > > tad more serious than sending lurid emails, but that again is JMHO.
> >
> > Higher education institutions all have explicit policies on
> > relationships, and the concern is that a faculty member not be involved
> > with any student whose grades he or she might influence. On top of that
> > there are clear policies concerning sexual harassment, but if neither of
> > these two conditions apply, then it is none of the University's
> > business, and they stay (rightly) out of it.
> >
>
> Nothing there I wouldn't disagree with, but if the student complains, you
> could be in a lot of trouble, especially with traditional undegrads.

Oh, no question, but the assumption here was that the relationship is
consensual - Larry is claiming that that alone will bring about
termination.

It's just the typical Larry BS.

William Clark

Date: 05 Oct 2006 21:41:24
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <1160084315.220580.159470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"The_Professor" <dbid@att.net > wrote:

> John B. wrote:
> >
> > Having a sexual relationship with a WILLING subordinate would not get
> > anybody fired from anywhere, unless the subordinate is a minor. Firing
> > someone for that could get the employer sued. I know people who dated
> > their subordinates at work and now they're ried to them.
> >
> > I asked you what law you were referring to that says consensual sex
> > between two adults is
> > "predation," and as I expected, you weren't able to come up with one.
>
> There is a recent case of a high school teacher being run out of
> teaching for having sex with a student who is of legal age. At the
> university level, it can get you fired if the student complains. It all
> depends upon the nature of the interaction. Taking a page on some trip
> and having sex with them is one thing. Sending them emails is another,
> IMHO. If sending emails results in disgrace, so should taking them on a
> trip and having sex with them. JMHO, of course. Getting hammered,
> driving a car, getting in an accident that results in a death is also a
> tad more serious than sending lurid emails, but that again is JMHO.

Sigh.

Can no one *read* anymore.

John B. wasn't saying that there was nothing wrong with the behaviour.
He was just saying that Larry's claims that it was *criminal* are --
like so much of what Larry says -- just so much nonsense and hot air.

--
'It's obvious to all that my predictions were wrong. � Shall I also
admit the sky is blue?'

'Isn't it funny that Final Cut Pro is nowhere to be seen at Pixar? They're
an all PC shop. ' -- 'me finally admitting that Pixar isn't an all PC shop.'

'... when most Pixar movies were made ... Final Cut Pro didn't even exist.'
-- 'So sue me. I just wrote my reks off the top of my head.'

'It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix.'

Date: 05 Oct 2006 13:26:17
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

larry wrote:
> On 5 Oct 2006 12:04:18 -0700, "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >larry wrote:
> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> >> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> >> >> >> > actually!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> >> >> their
> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low and
> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can be
> >> >> objective.
> >> >
> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
> >>
> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
> >>
> >> larry
> >
> >
> >I'd love to see the law that says consensual sex between two adults is
> >"predation." And as I recall, it was Monica that did the seducing.
>
> Seducing (regardless of whose initiative) a subordinate will get you
> fired from nearly every corporation, university, or military
> organization. A General or Admiral who does that is forced to retire
> a few hours later. A corporate CEO who does that is instantly fired,
> and walked to his car under escort! A university Chancellor who did
> that would be instantly fired.
>
> If the subordinate sues, they could be awarded essentially everything
> of value the superior has.
>
> Larry

Having a sexual relationship with a WILLING subordinate would not get
anybody fired from anywhere, unless the subordinate is a minor. Firing
someone for that could get the employer sued. I know people who dated
their subordinates at work and now they're ried to them.

I asked you what law you were referring to that says consensual sex
between two adults is
"predation," and as I expected, you weren't able to come up with one.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 08:57:33
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

MnMikew wrote:
> > Yeah, Larry .... blame the troops.
> > Next you'll be calling them "baby killers."
> >
> I believe John Kerry has a patent on that term.

Cite, please.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 06:34:32
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

larry wrote:
> On 4 Oct 2006 15:23:48 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >larry wrote:
> >> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:51 -0700, slater210@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Oct 4, 2:45 pm, "Tex" <ktexkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > > "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > >news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> > > > Tex wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > > >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> >> >> > > >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >>
> >> >> > > > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> >> >> > > > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> >> >> > > > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> >> >> > > > just me.
> >> >>
> >> >> > > >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> > > >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >>
> >> >> > > > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> >> >> > > > actually!
> >> >>
> >> >> > > Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> >> > > advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check in
> >> >> > > to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> >> > > potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of their
> >> >> > > lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as the
> >> >> > > girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?Doesn't matter what age she was, she was a subordinate. Strictly
> >> >> forbidden as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. But then,
> >> >> Liberals don't respect much of the Armed Forces...
> >> >>
> >> >> Tex- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
> >> >
> >> >Any Commander and Chief that sends soldiers into battle without
> >> >adequate body armour doesn't have must respect for the Armed Forces
> >> >either.
> >>
> >> Except that every Commander-in-Chief of this and every country in
> >> history has had to do the identical thing. There is no choice but to
> >> send the troops armed with and protected by what is available now. It
> >> can never be what will be available tomorrow.
> >>
> >> That is a cheap shot "monday morning quarterback" statement.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> >There are still troops complaining they don't have adequate body
> >armour. Are they lying or are you misinformed?
>
> There were troops complaining about the poor quality of their swords
> in the Roman Army. 20 years ago we were complaining about dozens of
> things we thought were urgent problems when I was in subines.
>
> The troops will always be complaining. The leaders can only do what
> they can do -- making hard choices while constantly caught between the
> rock of budget constraint and the hard place of troop safety, etc. Of
> course everyone wants everything for everyone of them. Lets get real.
> Larry

Budget constraints? What the hell kind of country are we if we can't
find the money in a $400 billion defense budget to properly equip our
soldiers when we send them to war? What priority in the defense budget
is more important than that? Maintaining the golf course at the
Quantico ine Base?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:10:09
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

larry wrote:
> The troops will always be complaining. The leaders can only do what
> they can do -- making hard choices while constantly caught between the
> rock of budget constraint and the hard place of troop safety, etc.

The leaders of this circus don't care about either one.
Yeah, Larry .... blame the troops.
Next you'll be calling them "baby killers."

Date: 05 Oct 2006 10:48:30
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1160003409.546095.268900@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> larry wrote:
>> The troops will always be complaining. The leaders can only do what
>> they can do -- making hard choices while constantly caught between the
>> rock of budget constraint and the hard place of troop safety, etc.
>
> The leaders of this circus don't care about either one.
> Yeah, Larry .... blame the troops.
> Next you'll be calling them "baby killers."
>
I believe John Kerry has a patent on that term.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:17:12
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote in message
news:4oi0m1FefmibU1@individual.net...
>
> "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159973598.362202.61890@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Larry Bud wrote:
>>> > So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
>>> > children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite
>>> > scumbag
>>> > bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.
>>>
>>> Hypocritical, yes, but he did pass good legislation. Before you go
>>> nuts, this does not absolve him of anything.
>>>
>>> I guess he should have just hired a male prostitute.
>>
>> Then he'd be a Democrat.
>>
>> Tex
>>
> Naw, a Dem would still be in office.

You gotta give someone credit for getting his butt (no pun intended) out,
and quick.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:54:22
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

MnMikew <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote:
:
: "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote in message
: news:1159973598.362202.61890@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
: >
: > Larry Bud wrote:
: >> > So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
: >> > children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite scumbag
: >> > bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.
: >>
: >> Hypocritical, yes, but he did pass good legislation. Before you go
: >> nuts, this does not absolve him of anything.
: >>
: >> I guess he should have just hired a male prostitute.
: >
: > Then he'd be a Democrat.
: >
: Naw, a Dem would still be in office.

Uh, he stayed in office for TEN YEARS after this habit became
known to the leadership, so you can climb the fuck down from that
particular high horse now.

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/

Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:38:56
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"...and disappointed that he would violate the trust of the citizens who
put him in office."
- George W. Bush

What a friggin putz.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 06:47:21
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Ben. wrote:
> If Foley was one of these sick fucks who gets spun out in an FBI sting
> - the ones where they troll for old perverts and then bust them when
> they show up to meet the "teenager" in question - he'd be in jail, not
> some fucking alcohol rehab center. Classy move - in essence blaming
> alcohol for his sick behavioral disorder.
>
> Anyway, The Big Chief had this to say about his fellow Republican:
>
> "I was dismayed and shocked to learn about Congressman Foley's
> unacceptable behavior," he said while visiting George W. Bush
> Elementary School in Stockton, California. "I was disgusted by the
> revelations and disappointed that he would violate the trust of the
> citizens who placed him in office.
>
> "The families have every right to expect that when they send their
> children to be a congressional page in Washington that they'll be
> respected."
>
> First time in a long time, possibly ever, that I am in 100%, blanket
> agreement with Dub.
>
> So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
> children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite scumbag
> bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.

Hold on, there. Now he's saying it wasn't just alcohol that sent him
around the bend. He's saying he was sexually abused as a kid. By a
priest! Poor little ky-poo. He's not to blame for his sick behavior.
He's a VICTIM.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:00:35
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159969640.969070.69840@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Ben. wrote:
>> If Foley was one of these sick fucks who gets spun out in an FBI sting
>> - the ones where they troll for old perverts and then bust them when
>> they show up to meet the "teenager" in question - he'd be in jail, not
>> some fucking alcohol rehab center. Classy move - in essence blaming
>> alcohol for his sick behavioral disorder.
>>
>> Anyway, The Big Chief had this to say about his fellow Republican:
>>
>> "I was dismayed and shocked to learn about Congressman Foley's
>> unacceptable behavior," he said while visiting George W. Bush
>> Elementary School in Stockton, California. "I was disgusted by the
>> revelations and disappointed that he would violate the trust of the
>> citizens who placed him in office.
>>
>> "The families have every right to expect that when they send their
>> children to be a congressional page in Washington that they'll be
>> respected."
>>
>> First time in a long time, possibly ever, that I am in 100%, blanket
>> agreement with Dub.
>>
>> So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
>> children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite scumbag
>> bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.
>
>
> Hold on, there. Now he's saying it wasn't just alcohol that sent him
> around the bend. He's saying he was sexually abused as a kid. By a
> priest! Poor little ky-poo. He's not to blame for his sick behavior.
> He's a VICTIM.
>
Yes, playing the victim card, pathetic. The pages should have turned him
over to PervertedJustice.com.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 06:41:15
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Larry Bud wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > tiggerspalewife wrote:
> >
> > > Ironic that a school is being named after the duh. I truly expect to see
> > > the portal say, "George W. Bush Alimentary School."
> >
> > Maybe it is an elementary school for adults?
> >
> > Boy, that's a tough school, that George W. Bush Elementary ... a real
> > tough school.
>
> I take it you have an MBA from Harvard?

Aside from his Harvard MBA, can you think of anything GWB has ever said
or done that shows he's st?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:23:20
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159969275.392954.83590@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> Larry Bud wrote:
>> annika1980 wrote:
>> > tiggerspalewife wrote:
>> >
>> > > Ironic that a school is being named after the duh. I truly expect to
>> > > see
>> > > the portal say, "George W. Bush Alimentary School."
>> >
>> > Maybe it is an elementary school for adults?
>> >
>> > Boy, that's a tough school, that George W. Bush Elementary ... a real
>> > tough school.
>>
>> I take it you have an MBA from Harvard?
>
> Aside from his Harvard MBA, can you think of anything GWB has ever said
> or done that shows he's st?

I'm sure Harvard is very happy to see Bush's speeches. Not as happy as every
other school who competes with Harvard for the top students, but their
special ed department is up for an award. I've got to give Bush credit for
being st enough to be a pilot. I'm not sure if that is a credit to him or
just 'plane' scary.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:59:03
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159969275.392954.83590@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Aside from his Harvard MBA, can you think of anything GWB has ever said
> or done that shows he's st?
>

He was a fighter pilot, he beat the Democrats...twice.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:26:37
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote in message
news:FOSdnU7N0dClUb7YnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@centurytel.net...
>
> "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159969275.392954.83590@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> Aside from his Harvard MBA, can you think of anything GWB has ever said
>> or done that shows he's st?
>>
>
> He was a fighter pilot, he beat the Democrats...twice.

And he fooled you.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:04:21
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <FOSdnU7N0dClUb7YnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@centurytel.net >,
"the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:

> "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159969275.392954.83590@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> > Aside from his Harvard MBA, can you think of anything GWB has ever said
> > or done that shows he's st?
> >
>
> He was a fighter pilot, he beat the Democrats...twice.

The only st part about that was that it managed to weasel him out of
Vietnam.

William Clark

Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:58:37
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:25:10
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote in message
news:4oi0guFenl15U1@individual.net...
>
> "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159969275.392954.83590@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Larry Bud wrote:
>>> annika1980 wrote:
>>> > tiggerspalewife wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Ironic that a school is being named after the duh. I truly expect to
>>> > > see
>>> > > the portal say, "George W. Bush Alimentary School."
>>> >
>>> > Maybe it is an elementary school for adults?
>>> >
>>> > Boy, that's a tough school, that George W. Bush Elementary ... a real
>>> > tough school.
>>>
>>> I take it you have an MBA from Harvard?
>>
>> Aside from his Harvard MBA, can you think of anything GWB has ever said
>> or done that shows he's st?
>>
> He outwitted the DNC for two elections.

And Enron outsted the SEC ... and PG&E outwitted everyone ... and the Bin
Laden family finanaced a Bush business.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 04:38:01
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

annika1980 wrote:
> tiggerspalewife wrote:
>
> > Ironic that a school is being named after the duh. I truly expect to see
> > the portal say, "George W. Bush Alimentary School."
>
> Maybe it is an elementary school for adults?
>
> Boy, that's a tough school, that George W. Bush Elementary ... a real
> tough school.

I take it you have an MBA from Harvard?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:29:06
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1159961881.769571.271770@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> annika1980 wrote:
>> tiggerspalewife wrote:
>>
>> > Ironic that a school is being named after the duh. I truly expect to
>> > see
>> > the portal say, "George W. Bush Alimentary School."
>>
>> Maybe it is an elementary school for adults?
>>
>> Boy, that's a tough school, that George W. Bush Elementary ... a real
>> tough school.
>
> I take it you have an MBA from Harvard?

I could have an MBA from Harvard if I had the help of speaking and receiving
messages directly from God. The message about there not being any casualties
in the Iraq war was a little off though. What was it he told Pat Robertson,
exactly?

Date: 04 Oct 2006 08:30:36
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On 4 Oct 2006 04:38:01 -0700, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>
>annika1980 wrote:
>> tiggerspalewife wrote:
>>
>> > Ironic that a school is being named after the duh. I truly expect to see
>> > the portal say, "George W. Bush Alimentary School."
>>
>> Maybe it is an elementary school for adults?
>>
>> Boy, that's a tough school, that George W. Bush Elementary ... a real
>> tough school.
>
>I take it you have an MBA from Harvard?

That's the irony. You don't even have to be out of ElHi to see that
Dubya's a bumbling, inept, dunce.
___,
\o

Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:21:10
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
news:dpd7i2pdf7v91rbilem5a4rk8gnipmpnvi@4ax.com...
> On 4 Oct 2006 04:38:01 -0700, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>annika1980 wrote:
>>> tiggerspalewife wrote:
>>>
>>> > Ironic that a school is being named after the duh. I truly expect to
>>> > see
>>> > the portal say, "George W. Bush Alimentary School."
>>>
>>> Maybe it is an elementary school for adults?
>>>
>>> Boy, that's a tough school, that George W. Bush Elementary ... a real
>>> tough school.
>>
>>I take it you have an MBA from Harvard?
>
> That's the irony. You don't even have to be out of ElHi to see that
> Dubya's a bumbling, inept, dunce.
> ___,
> \o
>

Date: 03 Oct 2006 23:23:09
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Them Foley Boys in Congress haven't done so well the past few years. One was
the only speaker ever not re-elected if I remember correctly. Maybe Hastert
will be the second.

Date: 03 Oct 2006 18:14:34
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

tiggerspalewife wrote:
> In article <1159908624.873192.223380@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ironic that a school is being named after the duh.

I guess you've never been to Stockton...then you might understand.

Date: 03 Oct 2006 21:09:18
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

Ben. wrote:
> tiggerspalewife wrote:
>> In article <1159908624.873192.223380@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
>> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ironic that a school is being named after the duh.
>
> I guess you've never been to Stockton...then you might understand.
>

hey Ben, you don't live here anymore so no fair making fun of Stockton :)

Date: 03 Oct 2006 17:10:03
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

tiggerspalewife wrote:

> Ironic that a school is being named after the duh. I truly expect to see
> the portal say, "George W. Bush Alimentary School."

Maybe it is an elementary school for adults?

Boy, that's a tough school, that George W. Bush Elementary ... a real
tough school.
I tell ya, I heard they damn near had a fistfight in the library when
one guy discovered that the last copy of "My Pet Goat" had been checked
out.
Of course, they only have a few books at the Bush school library and
most of them have already been colored in.
Hey, but the best part of that school is the first day. Whenever a
student completes the first hour, he gets a certificate saying,
"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!"
Take my Secretary of Defense ... Please!

"Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Try the veal."

================================

Here are some assorted k Foley jokes:

"Former Florida Congressman k Foley has resigned over allegations he
sent explicit emails to underage boys. What is it with Congress? If
they're not grabbing your wallet, they're grabbing your ass."
-Jay Leno

"How about that Florida congressman k Foley? Whoa. At least the
Democrats wait until the interns are 18." -David Letterman

"The Republicans reacted quickly. They transferred Foley to a different
parish." -David Letterman

"The Foley saga quickly sent leaders of the North American Man-Boy Love
Association, or Congress, into action." --Jon Stewart

"So basically Pages are brought down there to perform sexual exploits
for legislators?" -Jon Stewart
"No, that's what the interns are for.
Pages are just the aphrodisiacs, set the mood, get them primed.
They're the Fluffers of Liberty." -Daily Show correspondent
Samantha Bee

Daily Show correspondent John Oliver, asked why GOP leaders did not
remove Foley from the Missing and Exploited Children's Committee after
discovering the sexually explicit e-mails: "That's just the way it's
done. Everyone knows that Congress people are assigned to committees
based on their great weakness. ... Why would Senator Ted Stevens, a man
more comfortable in the horse and buggy era, be in charge of regulating
the Internet? Which he believes is a series of tubes -- a series of
tubes through which other congressmen can reach through and fondle
16-year-olds."

"So let that be a lesson to anyone running for Congress. You can Foley
some of the people some of the time, but you can't Foley all of the
people all of the time." -Jay Leno

"This incident is changing the way many big companies do business in
Washington. Like Tobacco companies are now hiring underage boys as
lobbyists because they know that's the best way to reach
congressmen." -Jay Leno

"I don't think Foley gets it. Today he apologized and promised to turn
over a new page." -Jay Leno

"Bush lost focus on Iraq because Congressman k Foley wouldn't stop
sending him inappropriate emails." --the #1 item on David Letterman's
list of the Top 10 Surprises in Bob Woodward's New Book

"k Foley...has checked into alcohol rehab. Yeah, when asked about
it, Foley said, 'I have a problem with 18-year old Scotch and
16-year-old boys.'" -Conan O'Brien

"Foley sent what appeared to be inappropriate e-mails and text messages
to underage male congressional pages. Evidently, the Republican
leadership knew about it anywhere from 11 months ago to 60 months ago.
Now people are calling for House Speaker Denny Hastert to step down.
That's totally unfair. He's a former high school wrestling coach. What
would he know about the harassment of young boys? All he knows is if
you pull it, you ice it." --Stephen Colbert

"A Congressman from Florida, 52-year-old k Foley, resigned because
of questionable emails he wrote to a former male page. The page as 16
years old at the time. And out of force of habit, the Catholic church
offered to move him to another parish." -Jay Leno

Date: 04 Oct 2006 01:21:27
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <1159920603.375954.195940@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >
"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:

"It's hard work I tell ya, hard work-and we have a eck-a-lec-tic reading
program here too."

Date: 03 Oct 2006 23:33:05
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <1159908624.873192.223380@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >
"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:

Ironic that a school is being named after the duh. I truly expect to see
the portal say, "George W. Bush Alimentary School."

Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:04:41
From: A Brick in the Wall
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

"tiggerspalewife" <anon@comments.header > wrote in message
news:29XIZ73F38993.8146412037@twistycreek.com...
> In article <1159908624.873192.223380@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ironic that a school is being named after the duh. I truly expect to see
> the portal say, "George W. Bush Alimentary School."
>
>

I do not think any school or building or for that matter - any public
structure should be named for a sitting leader......

Date: 03 Oct 2006 16:26:47
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

> So there you have it. This guy helped write laws protecting
> children/minors from older/sexual predators. Another hypocrite scumbag
> bites the dust. If only all of them were as dumb as this fuck stick.

Hypocritical, yes, but he did pass good legislation. Before you go
nuts, this does not absolve him of anything.

I guess he should have just hired a male prostitute.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 12:04:18
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

larry wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
> >> >> > actually!
> >> >>
> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
> >> >> in
> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> >> their
> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
> >> >> the
> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >
> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >>
> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low and
> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can be
> >> objective.
> >
> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
>
> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
>
> larry

I'd love to see the law that says consensual sex between two adults is
"predation." And as I recall, it was Monica that did the seducing.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 12:44:11
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On 5 Oct 2006 12:04:18 -0700, "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote:

>
>larry wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
>> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
>> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
>> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Tex wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not harmless,
>> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is merely
>> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the group,
>> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But that's
>> >> >> > just me.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda fun,
>> >> >> > actually!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to check
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and the
>> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>> >> >> their
>> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known as
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>> >>
>> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty low and
>> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of the
>> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I can be
>> >> objective.
>> >
>> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
>> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
>>
>> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
>> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
>>
>> larry
>
>
>I'd love to see the law that says consensual sex between two adults is
>"predation." And as I recall, it was Monica that did the seducing.

Seducing (regardless of whose initiative) a subordinate will get you
fired from nearly every corporation, university, or military
organization. A General or Admiral who does that is forced to retire
a few hours later. A corporate CEO who does that is instantly fired,
and walked to his car under escort! A university Chancellor who did
that would be instantly fired.

If the subordinate sues, they could be awarded essentially everything
of value the superior has.

Larry

Date: 05 Oct 2006 20:38:37
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <8unai2t8oe11u405j0flae15l2mslpidg9@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On 5 Oct 2006 12:04:18 -0700, "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >larry wrote:
> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> >> >> harmless,
> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> >> > merely
> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> >> > group,
> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> >> >> > that's
> >> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >> >> >> > fun,
> >> >> >> > actually!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> >> >> check
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> >> >> their
> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty
> >> >> low and
> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of
> >> >> the
> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I
> >> >> can be
> >> >> objective.
> >> >
> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
> >>
> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
> >>
> >> larry
> >
> >
> >I'd love to see the law that says consensual sex between two adults is
> >"predation." And as I recall, it was Monica that did the seducing.
>
> Seducing (regardless of whose initiative) a subordinate will get you
> fired from nearly every corporation, university, or military
> organization. A General or Admiral who does that is forced to retire
> a few hours later. A corporate CEO who does that is instantly fired,
> and walked to his car under escort! A university Chancellor who did
> that would be instantly fired.
>
> If the subordinate sues, they could be awarded essentially everything
> of value the superior has.
>
> Larry

Does the name "Tailhook" mean anything to you?

Hmmmmm.

William Clark

Date: 05 Oct 2006 20:00:55
From: Ernie
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <8unai2t8oe11u405j0flae15l2mslpidg9@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On 5 Oct 2006 12:04:18 -0700, "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >larry wrote:
> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> >> >> harmless,
> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> >> > merely
> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> >> > group,
> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> >> >> > that's
> >> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >> >> >> > fun,
> >> >> >> > actually!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> >> >> check
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> >> >> their
> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty
> >> >> low and
> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of
> >> >> the
> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I
> >> >> can be
> >> >> objective.
> >> >
> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
> >>
> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
> >>
> >> larry
> >
> >
> >I'd love to see the law that says consensual sex between two adults is
> >"predation." And as I recall, it was Monica that did the seducing.
>
> Seducing (regardless of whose initiative) a subordinate will get you
> fired from nearly every corporation, university, or military
> organization. A General or Admiral who does that is forced to retire
> a few hours later. A corporate CEO who does that is instantly fired,
> and walked to his car under escort! A university Chancellor who did
> that would be instantly fired.
>
> If the subordinate sues, they could be awarded essentially everything
> of value the superior has.

All of which is irrelevant to your claim that Clinton committed a crime.

Please quote the relevant passage from the statute you claim was
breached...

Date: 05 Oct 2006 14:53:08
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <8unai2t8oe11u405j0flae15l2mslpidg9@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On 5 Oct 2006 12:04:18 -0700, "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >larry wrote:
> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> >> >> harmless,
> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> >> > merely
> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> >> > group,
> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
> >> >> >> > that's
> >> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
> >> >> >> > fun,
> >> >> >> > actually!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
> >> >> >> check
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
> >> >> >> their
> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty
> >> >> low and
> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of
> >> >> the
> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I
> >> >> can be
> >> >> objective.
> >> >
> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
> >>
> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
> >>
> >> larry
> >
> >
> >I'd love to see the law that says consensual sex between two adults is
> >"predation." And as I recall, it was Monica that did the seducing.
>
> Seducing (regardless of whose initiative) a subordinate will get you
> fired from nearly every corporation, university, or military
> organization. A General or Admiral who does that is forced to retire
> a few hours later. A corporate CEO who does that is instantly fired,
> and walked to his car under escort! A university Chancellor who did
> that would be instantly fired.
>
> If the subordinate sues, they could be awarded essentially everything
> of value the superior has.
>
> Larry

For the military, that is a recent thing. 'Join the Navy, ride the
Waves' wasn't just a oft-repeated phrase, you know. Things didn't start
puckering up until after the Tailhook incident.

As far as corporate CEO's go, name a couple that were fired for that.
Hell, name a couple of university Chancellors while you are at it.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 15:44:33
From: larry
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:53:08 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:

>In article <8unai2t8oe11u405j0flae15l2mslpidg9@4ax.com>,
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5 Oct 2006 12:04:18 -0700, "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >larry wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
>> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
>> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
>> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
>> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
>> >> >> >> >> harmless,
>> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
>> >> >> >> > merely
>> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
>> >> >> >> > group,
>> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting. But
>> >> >> >> > that's
>> >> >> >> > just me.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
>> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded kinda
>> >> >> >> > fun,
>> >> >> >> > actually!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States taking
>> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs to
>> >> >> >> check
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest of
>> >> >> >> their
>> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives known
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into play?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty
>> >> >> low and
>> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if I
>> >> >> can be
>> >> >> objective.
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a powerful
>> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
>> >>
>> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
>> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
>> >>
>> >> larry
>> >
>> >
>> >I'd love to see the law that says consensual sex between two adults is
>> >"predation." And as I recall, it was Monica that did the seducing.
>>
>> Seducing (regardless of whose initiative) a subordinate will get you
>> fired from nearly every corporation, university, or military
>> organization. A General or Admiral who does that is forced to retire
>> a few hours later. A corporate CEO who does that is instantly fired,
>> and walked to his car under escort! A university Chancellor who did
>> that would be instantly fired.
>>
>> If the subordinate sues, they could be awarded essentially everything
>> of value the superior has.
>>
>> Larry
>
>For the military, that is a recent thing. 'Join the Navy, ride the
>Waves' wasn't just a oft-repeated phrase, you know. Things didn't start
>puckering up until after the Tailhook incident.
>
>As far as corporate CEO's go, name a couple that were fired for that.
>Hell, name a couple of university Chancellors while you are at it.

Too easy. Do a Google search on "chancellors fired for sexual
harassment" and you will find dozens, maybe hundreds.

Larry

Date: 06 Oct 2006 02:23:20
From: Ernie
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <2l2bi2dcaaskbfal1jel39mbg5isi3pseu@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:53:08 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <8unai2t8oe11u405j0flae15l2mslpidg9@4ax.com>,
> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 5 Oct 2006 12:04:18 -0700, "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >larry wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> >> >> >> harmless,
> >> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> >> >> > merely
> >> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> >> >> > group,
> >> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting.
> >> >> >> >> > But
> >> >> >> >> > that's
> >> >> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
> >> >> >> >> > kinda
> >> >> >> >> > fun,
> >> >> >> >> > actually!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
> >> >> >> >> taking
> >> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> check
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> their
> >> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives
> >> >> >> >> known
> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
> >> >> >> > play?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty
> >> >> >> low and
> >> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> can be
> >> >> >> objective.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a
> >> >> >powerful
> >> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
> >> >>
> >> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
> >> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
> >> >>
> >> >> larry
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I'd love to see the law that says consensual sex between two adults is
> >> >"predation." And as I recall, it was Monica that did the seducing.
> >>
> >> Seducing (regardless of whose initiative) a subordinate will get you
> >> fired from nearly every corporation, university, or military
> >> organization. A General or Admiral who does that is forced to retire
> >> a few hours later. A corporate CEO who does that is instantly fired,
> >> and walked to his car under escort! A university Chancellor who did
> >> that would be instantly fired.
> >>
> >> If the subordinate sues, they could be awarded essentially everything
> >> of value the superior has.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> >For the military, that is a recent thing. 'Join the Navy, ride the
> >Waves' wasn't just a oft-repeated phrase, you know. Things didn't start
> >puckering up until after the Tailhook incident.
> >
> >As far as corporate CEO's go, name a couple that were fired for that.
> >Hell, name a couple of university Chancellors while you are at it.
>
> Too easy. Do a Google search on "chancellors fired for sexual
> harassment" and you will find dozens, maybe hundreds.
>
> Larry

Which has what to do with your claim that Clinton committed a crime?

Nothing, that's what.

Date: 05 Oct 2006 20:43:14
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

In article <2l2bi2dcaaskbfal1jel39mbg5isi3pseu@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:53:08 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <8unai2t8oe11u405j0flae15l2mslpidg9@4ax.com>,
> > larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 5 Oct 2006 12:04:18 -0700, "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >larry wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> >> >> <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <nvYUg.1671$v43.1403@fed1read02>,
> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:lloydparsons-05F76E.15111404102006@individual.net...
> >> >> >> > In article <PHTUg.1647$v43.485@fed1read02>,
> >> >> >> > "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:1159986046.440040.326910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Tex wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> The "sick" IM's just became public...the emails, while not
> >> >> >> >> >> harmless,
> >> >> >> >> >> show nothing but someone being overly friendly.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Asking an underage male page to measure the size of his dick is
> >> >> >> >> > merely
> >> >> >> >> > "overly friendly"? Got something you'd like to share with the
> >> >> >> >> > group,
> >> >> >> >> > 'cause I think it's gay, illegal, and downright disgusting.
> >> >> >> >> > But
> >> >> >> >> > that's
> >> >> >> >> > just me.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>Clinton had sex with
> >> >> >> >> >> an intern and got a pass from your party...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > All I can say is that his sex was hetero, legal, and sounded
> >> >> >> >> > kinda
> >> >> >> >> > fun,
> >> >> >> >> > actually!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Quit while you're sane. If the president of the United States
> >> >> >> >> taking
> >> >> >> >> advantage or a teen age girl sounds like fun then someone needs
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> check
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> to the reality hotel. The drug addicts are on the first floor and
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> potential suicides are on the second. Those who will for the rest
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> their
> >> >> >> >> lives, their childrens lives, and their grandchildren's lives
> >> >> >> >> known
> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> girl who blew the president, have a penthouse apartment.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Since Monica was 22 at the time, how does 'teenage' come into
> >> >> >> > play?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I didn't realize she was that old. Her mental age seems to be pretty
> >> >> >> low and
> >> >> >> I think that should be taken ino consideration. Maybe this is part
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> Jon Benet discussion. It's a hot button with me, so I don't know if
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> can be
> >> >> >> objective.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I don't think her mental age is low, she was just enamored of a
> >> >> >powerful
> >> >> >man. She isn't the first and won't be the last.
> >> >>
> >> >> Which is the reason the law makes her seduction by her superior
> >> >> "sexual predation." It is little different than rape.
> >> >>
> >> >> larry
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I'd love to see the law that says consensual sex between two adults is
> >> >"predation." And as I recall, it was Monica that did the seducing.
> >>
> >> Seducing (regardless of whose initiative) a subordinate will get you
> >> fired from nearly every corporation, university, or military
> >> organization. A General or Admiral who does that is forced to retire
> >> a few hours later. A corporate CEO who does that is instantly fired,
> >> and walked to his car under escort! A university Chancellor who did
> >> that would be instantly fired.
> >>
> >> If the subordinate sues, they could be awarded essentially everything
> >> of value the superior has.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> >For the military, that is a recent thing. 'Join the Navy, ride the
> >Waves' wasn't just a oft-repeated phrase, you know. Things didn't start
> >puckering up until after the Tailhook incident.
> >
> >As far as corporate CEO's go, name a couple that were fired for that.
> >Hell, name a couple of university Chancellors while you are at it.
>
> Too easy. Do a Google search on "chancellors fired for sexual
> harassment" and you will find dozens, maybe hundreds.
>
> Larry

No, Larry, you are the one mouthing off about this, so YOU produce the
evidence. Go on, I challenge you to find cases where this has happened,
and remember we are not talking about sexual harassment - this is a
consensual relationship.

Otherwise it's just more of your typical lies and innuendoes.

William Clark

Date: 05 Oct 2006 17:58:54
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:44:33 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com >
wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:53:08 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
><lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
<clip >
>>As far as corporate CEO's go, name a couple that were fired for that.
>>Hell, name a couple of university Chancellors while you are at it.
>
>Too easy. Do a Google search on "chancellors fired for sexual
>harassment" and you will find dozens, maybe hundreds.
>
>Larry

More LLLlarry hyperbole. That google produced ONE chancellor listed
on the first two pages that was fired. It did show a lot of quotes
by channcellors regarding sexual harassment.

More obfuscation by the King of BS.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:10:59
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

larry wrote:
> >
> Clinton got by with what should have been prosecuted as a civil and
> possibly criminal act. Hundreds of men have lost their entire
> careers, their family, and all their assets for doing what he did.
>
name 3.

Date: 04 Oct 2006 15:33:58
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Mark Foley

larry wrote:

> Clinton got by with what should have been prosecuted as a civil and
> possibly criminal act.

Pray tell, what law did he break?

> Hundreds of men have lost their entire
> careers, their family, and all their assets for doing what he did.

Ok, but how many are in jail? I'd say roughly zero, 'cause infidelity
ain't illegal!