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Date: 16 Nov 2006 08:44:43
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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This isn't fooling anyone. It's really gender testing and i think they should just come out and say so. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/sports/AP-GLF-LPGA-Drug-Testing.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin LPGA Tour Plans Drug Testing in 2008 By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: November 16, 2006 WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Cristie Kerr's eyes lit up when she considered how her emotions would react if given the chance to win $1 million this weekend at the ADT Championship. ''You'd be not human or on beta-blockers to not react to that -- which they're going to test for now,'' Kerr said. Indeed, drug testing is coming to pro golf. The LPGA Tour said Wednesday it will begin testing players for performance-enhancers in 2008, a move that makes it the first major golf tour to announce a drug-testing program. Specifics of the testing plan will be worked up over the next six to nine months, said LPGA commissioner Carolyn Bivens. The tour plans to announce the program details, including testing methods and banned substances, in the second half of the 2007 season. ''While we have no evidence to date that any of our players are using performance-enhancing drugs, we need to have a very clear policy and a program in place,'' Bivens said. ''We want to take a proactive role.'' Meanwhile, the PGA Tour said Wednesday that its board this week authorized the tour to develop a list of prohibited substances and to create an education program that would inform players about banned substances, how they might get into the body, the health risks, the nature of any potential testing and possible penalties. Currently, PGA Tour commissioner Tim Finchem has the authority to impose drug testing at his discretion, but he has said there has not been any evidence of drug use that would cause him to do that. ''We need more than somebody just saying, 'Why don't you go test and make sure?''' he said in August. Tiger Woods is among PGA Tour players who believe there should be drug testing. Annika Sorenstam, the top-ranked women's player, said she had no problem with the LPGA's plan, yet added that it's ''sad that we have to have testing.'' ''Golf is not like other sports,'' said Sorenstam, who was tested as a college player. ''I believe in this sport. I believe in the people out here. ... I don't think you're going to see anything out here, so it might be a waste of time. But if it's peace of mind for people and if we need to prove that the LPGA's clean, then let's do it.'' Kerr added that testing would protect ''the honor of the game.'' ''If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about,'' Kerr said. The European Tour is working on a policy that chief executive George O'Grady said will be effective ''in the near future.'' Players at last month's World Amateur Team Championships in South Africa were tested, and other tests have been held at events in France and Portugal, O'Grady said. The LPGA will work to develop the new policy with the National Center for Drug Free Sport, which also manages testing programs for the NCAA and other organizations. ''We recognize the concerns regarding drug use in sport and the need to have a clear policy and program in place,'' Bivens said. The announcement was made on the eve of the LPGA's season-ending ADT Championship, a 32-player event that begins Thursday and carries a first prize of $1 million, the largest in tour history.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 12:35:17
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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uncle k wrote: > If there was a catalyst, it > could be when Annika showed up a few seasons back, rather suddenly looking > like Barry Bonds. Her moustache was thicker.
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 05:31:19
From: Michel Oui
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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So, by not joining the LPGA, it would seem that Michelle Wie could avoid said drug testing.
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 06:33:03
From: sfb
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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Probably not. Any player in an LPGA event regardless of how they got in should be subject to testing. "Michel Oui" <GGOAT@example.com > wrote in message news:HOb7h.8442$5P2.7749@trnddc02... > So, by not joining the LPGA, it would seem that > Michelle Wie could avoid said drug testing.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 10:12:37
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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Hi unc! Good to see you around! I'd be inclined to believe that her's is due to weights and excersize. I took up the weights 3 year ago and it has made a tremendous difference. (Except for skinny gray haired guys that kept outdriving me at Shuksun last spring <g >) She already had game, so, why would she have risked it with drugs? I doubt the conspiracy in this one... On Nov 16, 10:07 am, "uncle k" <no_s...@all.com > wrote: > "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > > Dood - EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. Get yer butt outa yer head. > > > PS - you're right about annika though. She really did beef up and of > > course we were given the usual crap about how it's all do to > > weightlifting.!! That argument can work for men but not women. They > > just about have to use roids or HGH to get bigger.There are exceptions. Take Annika for instance, who is a well documented > exercise freak. Weights, hundreds of sit-ups every day. Roids? We'll > never know. Either way, she wouldn't be the first lady who exercised her > titties away. > > ;-{
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 09:52:53
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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uncle k wrote: > "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1163695483.163401.97200@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > This isn't fooling anyone. It's really gender testing and i think they > > should just come out and say so. > > > > Believe it or not, there isn't a conspiracy around every corner. They've > been meeting and discussing this for years. If there was a catalyst, it > could be when Annika showed up a few seasons back, rather suddenly looking > like Barry Bonds. The thrust is to proactively assure that the tour is > clean, before it has a chance to get dirty. Dood - EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. Get yer butt outa yer head. PS - you're right about annika though. She really did beef up and of course we were given the usual crap about how it's all do to weightlifting.!! That argument can work for men but not women. They just about have to use roids or HGH to get bigger.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 18:07:23
From: uncle k
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote in message > > Dood - EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. Get yer butt outa yer head. > > PS - you're right about annika though. She really did beef up and of > course we were given the usual crap about how it's all do to > weightlifting.!! That argument can work for men but not women. They > just about have to use roids or HGH to get bigger. There are exceptions. Take Annika for instance, who is a well documented exercise freak. Weights, hundreds of sit-ups every day. Roids? We'll never know. Either way, she wouldn't be the first lady who exercised her titties away. ;-{
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 17:35:39
From: uncle k
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1163695483.163401.97200@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > This isn't fooling anyone. It's really gender testing and i think they > should just come out and say so. > Believe it or not, there isn't a conspiracy around every corner. They've been meeting and discussing this for years. If there was a catalyst, it could be when Annika showed up a few seasons back, rather suddenly looking like Barry Bonds. The thrust is to proactively assure that the tour is clean, before it has a chance to get dirty. Fortunately, the caddies are not targeted for testing. ;-{
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 09:06:06
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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> > LPGA Tour Plans Drug Testing in 2008 > And in related news, Annika Sorenstam has announced her immediate retirement. I think the LPGA players should be subject to random body-cavity searches (by me, of course), but certain players like Pat Hurst, Betty Iverson, & Meg Mallon should be given lifetime exemptions.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 10:55:02
From: multi
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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On 16 Nov 2006 09:06:06 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote: >And in related news, Annika Sorenstam has announced her immediate >retirement. Look for Vijay to do the same when the PGA starts testing. TGC had a panel discussion on this yesterday, and I was amazed at the ignorance shown by so-called experts. You would think that with all the major league pitchers who are turning up positive, people would stop thinking that one shot of steroids makes your muscles huge. What they do is greatly increase your recovery ability. If you spend your time lifting heavy weights, that will help your muscles grow. If you spend your time beating golf balls, that will help you to practice longer.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 12:57:22
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:55:02 -0800, multi <multi@asm.org > wrote: >TGC had a panel discussion on this yesterday, and I was amazed at the >ignorance shown by so-called experts. You would think that with all >the major league pitchers who are turning up positive, people would >stop thinking that one shot of steroids makes your muscles huge. What >they do is greatly increase your recovery ability. If you spend your >time lifting heavy weights, that will help your muscles grow. If you >spend your time beating golf balls, that will help you to practice >longer. If that's all it was used for, sports wouldn't need testing - steroids are an effective medicine. But it is so easy to abuse a good thing. People use a bit to heal, and a bit more to build up some more - and then more obviously (Bonds was trying to equalize the playing field with some other steroid users - and then some). And then we get freaks like "the man whose biceps exploded" - and half of the top body builders of an era arrested for manslaughter. Same thing - Olympians have to suffer from hay fever rather than pop down to the grocery store for the medicine we take. Not because the medicine is bad - but because the same ingredients have been abused. Funny thing, we have pitchers with new tendons in their shoulders (Tommy John surgery), and so far, that's OK (As are surgical fat reduction and surgical eye enhancement). I wonder when surgical enhancements will be abused enough to become illegal. How about surgery to increase my wrist bend - just as much as Sergio's? Or maybe, since I need it more - past Sergio's?
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 09:02:35
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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sfb wrote: > Yet another stupid troll. The LPGA rules are female at birth so all they > need is the external plumbing to qualify. > > "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1163695483.163401.97200@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > > This isn't fooling anyone. It's really gender testing and i think they > > should just come out and say so. > > You are really ignorant if you think it's that simple.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 14:22:48
From: sfb
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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It is that simple. Doctor looks at the external plumbing and checks off female on the birth certificate. "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1163696555.225044.100740@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > sfb wrote: >> Yet another stupid troll. The LPGA rules are female at birth so all they >> need is the external plumbing to qualify. >> >> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in >> message >> news:1163695483.163401.97200@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... >> >> > This isn't fooling anyone. It's really gender testing and i think they >> > should just come out and say so. >> > > > You are really ignorant if you think it's that simple. >
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 11:59:58
From: sfb
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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Yet another stupid troll. The LPGA rules are female at birth so all they need is the external plumbing to qualify. "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1163695483.163401.97200@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > This isn't fooling anyone. It's really gender testing and i think they > should just come out and say so. >
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 11:11:25
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: LPGA to start drug testing in 2008
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"sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote in message news:SImdnaf15ZqSBMHYnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Yet another stupid troll. The LPGA rules are female at birth so all they > need is the external plumbing to qualify. I don't want to meet a female golfer with external plumbing.
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