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Date: 25 Sep 2006 15:22:34
From: Cal Golfer
Subject: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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I am a big Johnny Miller fan...too bad he didn't show (either) at the
Ryder Cup last weekend. From his pre-competition prediction of a USA
win (which I am sure was not his real opinion, but one he and NBC
thought would be the wise one to make public) to his lack of anything
resembling insights into good and bad play, he was clearly not himself
this past weekend.
Maybe it was all the criticism he has taken in the past from Dico
and company, but something kept him quiet all week. It is too bad, too
--- I watched my video tape of the Brookline comeback a few nights ago
and several players including Furyk and Justin Leonard pointed to
critical comments made my Miller as reasons they made the comeback.
And Dico and Furyk could have used someone to kick them in the #%$@
this weekend...
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 21:12:37
From: pete z
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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Cal Golfer wrote:
> I am a big Johnny Miller fan...too bad he didn't show (either) at the
> Ryder Cup last weekend. From his pre-competition prediction of a USA
> win (which I am sure was not his real opinion, but one he and NBC
> thought would be the wise one to make public) to his lack of anything
> resembling insights into good and bad play, he was clearly not himself
> this past weekend.
>
> Maybe it was all the criticism he has taken in the past from Dico
> and company, but something kept him quiet all week. It is too bad, too
> --- I watched my video tape of the Brookline comeback a few nights ago
> and several players including Furyk and Justin Leonard pointed to
> critical comments made my Miller as reasons they made the comeback.
>
> And Dico and Furyk could have used someone to kick them in the #%$@
> this weekend...
You know, I missed all of Miller's matches. Which days did he play? And
he did worse
than Mickelson?
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 08:29:38
From: Cal Golfer
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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You have to keep things in perspective, and when they started talking
about how Tom Lehman couldn't have played on the team AND been team
captain, well you have to remember you are listening to guys who either
(a) play golf for a living or (b) announce golf for a living. Not
exactly blue-collar, back breaking work. Once the course is tweaked,
the outfits are selected, and the travel itinerary is set for the week,
setting the final pairings is all that is left. That may be a lot of
work for a retiree, but for those of us still in the working world it
hardly sounds like a big job.
jeffc wrote:
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1159234387.998952.258120@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > jeffc wrote:
> >>
> >> Could be. I have had the distinct impression that as important as the
> >> captain's job is made out to be, it might be virtually meaningless.
> >
> > Well somebody has to pick out the team outfits.
>
> Exactly.
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 05:10:49
From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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"Cal Golfer" <Bill_VP@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1159284578.866259.240730@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> You have to keep things in perspective, and when they started talking
> about how Tom Lehman couldn't have played on the team AND been team
> captain, well you have to remember you are listening to guys who either
> (a) play golf for a living or (b) announce golf for a living. Not
> exactly blue-collar, back breaking work. Once the course is tweaked,
> the outfits are selected, and the travel itinerary is set for the week,
> setting the final pairings is all that is left. That may be a lot of
> work for a retiree, but for those of us still in the working world it
> hardly sounds like a big job.
Most of the time when I hear a captain interviewed, he says that one of his
priy duties is to select the uniforms and invariably, he describes that
as a huge responsibility. Hell, if some halfwit moron randomly chose the
clothes would anybody care? Especially if we won:
"Guys, we trounced the Euros this year! (but we did so in mismatched
outfits and we'll never live it down!)
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Date: 25 Sep 2006 18:33:08
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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jeffc wrote:
>
> Could be. I have had the distinct impression that as important as the
> captain's job is made out to be, it might be virtually meaningless.
Well somebody has to pick out the team outfits.
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 02:29:04
From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159234387.998952.258120@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> jeffc wrote:
>>
>> Could be. I have had the distinct impression that as important as the
>> captain's job is made out to be, it might be virtually meaningless.
>
> Well somebody has to pick out the team outfits.
That's a tremendous responsibility. Just ask anyone who's been team
captain.
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 08:26:31
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:29:04 GMT, "The poster formerly known as
Colleyville Alan" <nospam@nospam.net > wrote:
>"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1159234387.998952.258120@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> jeffc wrote:
>>>
>>> Could be. I have had the distinct impression that as important as the
>>> captain's job is made out to be, it might be virtually meaningless.
>>
>> Well somebody has to pick out the team outfits.
>
>That's a tremendous responsibility. Just ask anyone who's been team
>captain.
>
I'd do it. They'd love the color blind outfits I'd put together.
They would make Jesper cringe.
--
jvdp
Myke Plough-in-skee is not mentioned in this thread.
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com/files/OH_2006_make_a_putt.avi
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 01:52:21
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159234387.998952.258120@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> jeffc wrote:
>>
>> Could be. I have had the distinct impression that as important as the
>> captain's job is made out to be, it might be virtually meaningless.
>
> Well somebody has to pick out the team outfits.
Exactly.
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Date: 25 Sep 2006 17:10:38
From: dsc
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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Cal Golfer wrote:
> I am a big Johnny Miller fan...too bad he didn't show (either) at the
> Ryder Cup last weekend. From his pre-competition prediction of a USA
> win (which I am sure was not his real opinion, but one he and NBC
> thought would be the wise one to make public) to his lack of anything
> resembling insights into good and bad play, he was clearly not himself
> this past weekend.
>
> Maybe it was all the criticism he has taken in the past from Dico
> and company, but something kept him quiet all week. It is too bad, too
> --- I watched my video tape of the Brookline comeback a few nights ago
> and several players including Furyk and Justin Leonard pointed to
> critical comments made my Miller as reasons they made the comeback.
>
> And Dico and Furyk could have used someone to kick them in the #%$@
> this weekend...
Many of the the top profesisonal athletes in the US are considered
uncoachable... would it be fair to say the same about the US cup teams
of late?
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Date: 25 Sep 2006 21:50:49
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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What coaching? The biggest challenge the Ryder Cup captain has is picking
out the outfits.
"dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu > wrote in message
news:1159229438.247262.195920@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Cal Golfer wrote:
>> I am a big Johnny Miller fan...too bad he didn't show (either) at the
>> Ryder Cup last weekend. From his pre-competition prediction of a USA
>> win (which I am sure was not his real opinion, but one he and NBC
>> thought would be the wise one to make public) to his lack of anything
>> resembling insights into good and bad play, he was clearly not himself
>> this past weekend.
>>
>> Maybe it was all the criticism he has taken in the past from Dico
>> and company, but something kept him quiet all week. It is too bad, too
>> --- I watched my video tape of the Brookline comeback a few nights ago
>> and several players including Furyk and Justin Leonard pointed to
>> critical comments made my Miller as reasons they made the comeback.
>>
>> And Dico and Furyk could have used someone to kick them in the #%$@
>> this weekend...
>
>
> Many of the the top profesisonal athletes in the US are considered
> uncoachable... would it be fair to say the same about the US cup teams
> of late?
>
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 01:48:35
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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On 25 Sep 2006 17:10:38 -0700, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu > wrote:
>Many of the the top profesisonal athletes in the US are considered
>uncoachable... would it be fair to say the same about the US cup teams
>of late?
But most of the top professional athletes in the US are coachable.
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 01:27:21
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Johnny Miller Was Biggest US Underachiever at Ryder Cup
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"dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu > wrote in message
news:1159229438.247262.195920@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Many of the the top profesisonal athletes in the US are considered
> uncoachable... would it be fair to say the same about the US cup teams
> of late?
Could be. I have had the distinct impression that as important as the
captain's job is made out to be, it might be virtually meaningless.
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