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Date: 20 Apr 2007 12:36:23
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Subject: Impact analysis
I've been analyzing club impact with tape on my driver and 5 iron.
I've found a consistent pattern with both. When I miss with my driver
it's on the heel and when I miss with the 5-iron it's on the toe. I
suppose I could just change the distance I stand from the ball, but
I'd rather understand what in my swing is causing this to happen. I'm
a decent player with a 4 handicap and thought I'd be able to figure
this out, but haven't so far. I'd appreciate comments from those who
can help. Thanks!

Dave





 
Date: 20 Apr 2007 19:00:03
From: GaryC_47
Subject: Re: Impact analysis

<dwb@dwburger.ws > wrote in message
news:k55i239thnkphrpeslsttp4v0lbm3c9cnj@4ax.com...
> I've been analyzing club impact with tape on my driver and 5 iron.
> I've found a consistent pattern with both. When I miss with my
> driver
> it's on the heel and when I miss with the 5-iron it's on the toe.
> I
> suppose I could just change the distance I stand from the ball,
> but
> I'd rather understand what in my swing is causing this to happen.
> I'm
> a decent player with a 4 handicap and thought I'd be able to
> figure
> this out, but haven't so far. I'd appreciate comments from those
> who
> can help. Thanks!
>
> Dave
>

When fitting for length, consistent toe hits indicate a club that is
too short. Assuming that your clubs are the correct length and that
you are normally consistently hitting the center of the face, the
toe hit would indicate an OTT move - clubhead coming from the
outside across the ball. The converse is true for heel hits so you
are probably swinging your driver too flat and coming from the
inside.




 
Date: 20 Apr 2007 18:28:55
From: Tom K
Subject: Re: Impact analysis
Add the rest of your clubs to the analysis and see where the transition
occurs. You don't provide enough information with must 2 clubs in opposite
directions.

If you find it's with all the irons one way vs. all the woods the other
way... that may say one thing. If the transition is more progressive... it
could mean something else.

Good pick up though.

More analysis required though.





<dwb@dwburger.ws > wrote in message
news:k55i239thnkphrpeslsttp4v0lbm3c9cnj@4ax.com...
> I've been analyzing club impact with tape on my driver and 5 iron.
> I've found a consistent pattern with both. When I miss with my driver
> it's on the heel and when I miss with the 5-iron it's on the toe. I
> suppose I could just change the distance I stand from the ball, but
> I'd rather understand what in my swing is causing this to happen. I'm
> a decent player with a 4 handicap and thought I'd be able to figure
> this out, but haven't so far. I'd appreciate comments from those who
> can help. Thanks!
>
> Dave
>




 
Date: 20 Apr 2007 21:28:36
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Impact analysis

<dwb@dwburger.ws > wrote in message
news:k55i239thnkphrpeslsttp4v0lbm3c9cnj@4ax.com...
> I've been analyzing club impact with tape on my driver and 5 iron.
> I've found a consistent pattern with both. When I miss with my driver
> it's on the heel and when I miss with the 5-iron it's on the toe. I
> suppose I could just change the distance I stand from the ball, but
> I'd rather understand what in my swing is causing this to happen. I'm
> a decent player with a 4 handicap and thought I'd be able to figure
> this out, but haven't so far. I'd appreciate comments from those who
> can help. Thanks!
>
> Dave
>

I would start with the easy stuff (although it is unlikely to be the issue
here).

These would be

1) A difference in setup
2) A major difference in the club playing characteristics (like an A flex
driver and S flex 5i)
3) Any other simple thing I forgot

But these are unlikely to be the answer. In my case I have a 30 degree
hybrid that plays to 38", D2 SW, S flex TT TX-90 steel shaft and a 29 degree
5i that plays to 38", D2 SW, S flex TT TX-90 shaft (same tipping and butt
frequency as the hybrid). If there were ever two different clubs that should
play the same, that is it. But my impact tape tendencies are clearly
different with these two clubs. Hybrid errors tend toward the toe and 5i
errors tend to be thin.

From what I know yourhands sense the position of the clubhead as being at
its center of gravity (COG). The 5i (blade in this case) has a different
relationship between the COG and actual sweetspot vs. the hybrid. Whatever
subconscious changes are being made are just different and probably not
worth diving into directly (probably).

Your driver/5i error patterns may well be the same (or not - it is golf :-)

dave




 
Date: 20 Apr 2007 13:39:35
From: curtjester1
Subject: Re: Impact analysis
On 20 Apr, 15:36, d...@dwburger.ws wrote:
> I've been analyzing club impact with tape on my driver and 5 iron.
> I've found a consistent pattern with both. When I miss with my driver
> it's on the heel and when I miss with the 5-iron it's on the toe. I
> suppose I could just change the distance I stand from the ball, but
> I'd rather understand what in my swing is causing this to happen. I'm
> a decent player with a 4 handicap and thought I'd be able to figure
> this out, but haven't so far. I'd appreciate comments from those who
> can help. Thanks!
>
> Dave

I think it would be hard to help when we don't know how you swing and
your angle of attack. Do you use the same swing plane for both
clubs?

CJ