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Date: 19 Nov 2006 05:33:25
From:
Subject: Hybrids & loft
I have at present a 9 deg driver, 15 & 19 Deg woods and then start at a
27 deg 5 iron

I was just wondering, seeing that I am only using 12 clubs, what lofts
should I be using as a hybrid?
a 19 deg 3 & a 22 deg 4 or a 22 deg 4 and a 25 deg 5?

It seems pointless having 2 clubs with the same loft (my 5 wood and a 3
Iron hybrid)
but would I be hitting the 5 hybrid far enough to be longer than my 5
iron??

Cheers

Kevboy_telford





 
Date: 23 Nov 2006 00:30:52
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Hybrids & loft

<Kevin.berwick@blueyonder.co.uk > wrote in message
news:1163943205.241749.3140@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I have at present a 9 deg driver, 15 & 19 Deg woods and then start at a
> 27 deg 5 iron
>
> I was just wondering, seeing that I am only using 12 clubs, what lofts
> should I be using as a hybrid?
> a 19 deg 3 & a 22 deg 4 or a 22 deg 4 and a 25 deg 5?
>
> It seems pointless having 2 clubs with the same loft (my 5 wood and a 3
> Iron hybrid)
> but would I be hitting the 5 hybrid far enough to be longer than my 5
> iron??
>
> Cheers
>
> Kevboy_telford
>

I have 15 and 19 degree fairway woods and my longest iron is a 28 degree 5i.
I use two hybrids to fill that gap with lofts of 22 and 25 degrees and have
steel shafts like my irons. This works well for me.

dave




 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 16:51:15
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Hybrids & loft
On 19 Nov 2006 05:33:25 -0800, Kevin.berwick@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

>It seems pointless having 2 clubs with the same loft (my 5 wood and a 3
>Iron hybrid)
>but would I be hitting the 5 hybrid far enough to be longer than my 5
>iron??

Borrow or rent clubs and try them out before making assumptions with
your money. Note the flight path and roll of the balls - you may
decide that you should have more than 14 clubs, swapping a couple out
depending upon conditions.

Tiger swaps his 5W out. Lots of pros swap out more clubs than he
does. Admittedly, they play more varieties of courses than we do -
but even in the same course, wind makes a difference in which club is
optimal.


 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 15:34:48
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Hybrids & loft
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:33:25 -0800, Kevin.berwick wrote:

> I have at present a 9 deg driver, 15 & 19 Deg woods and then start at a
> 27 deg 5 iron
>
> I was just wondering, seeing that I am only using 12 clubs, what lofts
> should I be using as a hybrid?
> a 19 deg 3 & a 22 deg 4 or a 22 deg 4 and a 25 deg 5?
>
> It seems pointless having 2 clubs with the same loft (my 5 wood and a 3
> Iron hybrid)
> but would I be hitting the 5 hybrid far enough to be longer than my 5
> iron??

I think so. I have 18, 22 and 26 degree KZG hybrids. The 26 is very close
to my 5i in loft but it plays about a club longer.

I'd get the 22 and 26. I really only use the 18 off the tee. I hit my 4i
pretty well and didn't think I'd have much use for the 26, but I can dig
it out of absolutely any lie. It's amazing. Next to getting a good fitted
modern driver, this club has made the most difference to my game.


  
Date: 19 Nov 2006 23:45:53
From: JJK
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
annika1980 wrote:
> >>> Spin it any way you want. "Global Warming" is not a certainty, it is
an
> >> unsubstantiated observation. For every report you cite that purports
> >> that "Global Warming" is going to doom the planet in 30 years, hey that
> >> sounds familiar, I can find one that states that "Global Warming" is
not
> >> occurring or is caused by extra-planetary forces.
> >
> > I challenge you to produce even one reputable scientific report that
> > claims that global warming isn't occuring. It's cause is what is being
> > debated.

Bert Robbins wrote:
> Correct, the cause is in question. Is it a natural cycle or is it a man
> made catastrophe? I am in the natural cycle camp.


To what do you attribute the change in the ocean's pH?




   
Date: 19 Nov 2006 20:00:44
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
JJK wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
>>>>> Spin it any way you want. "Global Warming" is not a certainty, it is
> an
>>>> unsubstantiated observation. For every report you cite that purports
>>>> that "Global Warming" is going to doom the planet in 30 years, hey that
>>>> sounds familiar, I can find one that states that "Global Warming" is
> not
>>>> occurring or is caused by extra-planetary forces.
>>> I challenge you to produce even one reputable scientific report that
>>> claims that global warming isn't occuring. It's cause is what is being
>>> debated.
>
> Bert Robbins wrote:
>> Correct, the cause is in question. Is it a natural cycle or is it a man
>> made catastrophe? I am in the natural cycle camp.
>
>
> To what do you attribute the change in the ocean's pH?

Reduced fish pee.




   
Date: 19 Nov 2006 19:29:25
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
JJK wrote:
> To what do you attribute the change in the ocean's pH?

Gazillions of fish peeing in it.





  
Date: 19 Nov 2006 12:54:18
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
Bert Robbins wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
>> Bert Robbins wrote:
>>>> Spin it any way you want. "Global Warming" is not a certainty, it
>>>> is an
>>> unsubstantiated observation. For every report you cite that purports
>>> that "Global Warming" is going to doom the planet in 30 years, hey
>>> that sounds familiar, I can find one that states that "Global
>>> Warming" is not occurring or is caused by extra-planetary forces.
>>
>> I challenge you to produce even one reputable scientific report that
>> claims that global warming isn't occuring. It's cause is what is
>> being debated.
>>
>
> Correct, the cause is in question. Is it a natural cycle or is it a
> man made catastrophe? I am in the natural cycle camp.


The existance of Man is a natural progression of the evolution of life on
this planet; so whatever it (Man) does is natural.


--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson




   
Date: 20 Nov 2006 01:41:06
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:54:18 -0500, Head Shot wrote:
> Bert Robbins wrote:

>> Correct, the cause is in question. Is it a natural cycle or is it a man
>> made catastrophe? I am in the natural cycle camp.
>
> The existance of Man is a natural progression of the evolution of life
> on this planet; so whatever it (Man) does is natural.

However we are the first species that is able to see the implications of
our actions, and therefore have the capacity to change our behavior. If it
turns out that we will continue to just consume all available resources
like any other organism--and this may well be the case--then we're
screwed.


    
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 10:19:28
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
In article <ErGdnRDLjtOy5_3YnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com >,
Bert Robbins <screw@you.com > wrote:

> annika1980 wrote:
> > Bert Robbins wrote:
> >>> Spin it any way you want. "Global Warming" is not a certainty, it is an
> >> unsubstantiated observation. For every report you cite that purports
> >> that "Global Warming" is going to doom the planet in 30 years, hey that
> >> sounds familiar, I can find one that states that "Global Warming" is not
> >> occurring or is caused by extra-planetary forces.
> >
> > I challenge you to produce even one reputable scientific report that
> > claims that global warming isn't occuring. It's cause is what is being
> > debated.
> >
>
> Correct, the cause is in question. Is it a natural cycle or is it a man
> made catastrophe? I am in the natural cycle camp.

I think it is a natural cycle also, but exacerbated by man's prolific
emissions. And while we can't change the naturally occuring problems,
we can and should do something about the human induced stuff.

While I'm not sure I agree with the gloom and doomers, I am sure I don't
agree with the no problem group.


   
Date: 19 Nov 2006 12:55:26
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> I think it is a natural cycle also, but exacerbated by man's prolific
> emissions.

Replace "man" with "Democrats and Republicans" and the sentence is worthy
of a Usenet Signature(SIG).

:-)


--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson




   
Date: 19 Nov 2006 12:32:26
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:19:28 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:

>I think it is a natural cycle also, but exacerbated by man's prolific
>emissions. And while we can't change the naturally occuring problems,
>we can and should do something about the human induced stuff.

I tend to agree with this. If reducing CO2 emissions will reduce the
problem, then it's worth doing. Unfortunately, reduction of CO2 wont
happen.