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Date: 12 Oct 2006 12:14:48
From: warren montgomery
Subject: How long does it last?
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Reading an article lately about how long golf balls last made me curious how
long all the gear lasts. (It's a rotten cold day here and I've got time on
my hands) I play a lot of golf (probably close to 200 rounds a year) and a
lot of my gear dies young. Here is what I get out of my gear and as a
result what it actually costs me per round.
Balls -- 2 rounds, if I don't lose it, one in good condition and one to play
on holes where I may lose it. They cost me nothing though (between company
logo balls and balls won in competitions I haven't bought balls in years.)
Golve -- 2 months (40 rounds) that's about a quarter a round.
Shoes -- 2 years and 150 rounds (I have more than one pair in play at any
point in time. That's maybe 75 cents at the price I pay
(I buy mainly dryjoys. Keeping out the water is the top concern and no
others seem to come close in durability)
Spikes -- 2 months (20 rounds) 50 cents. More than I would have thought.
Bag -- 1 year (200 rounds) Another 50 cents. They used to last longer, but
in recent years I've killed a bag a year.
Grips -- 1 year (200 rounds). Maybe another quarter -- I replace them
myself.
Clubs -- last forever, but let's say 5 years or a thousand rounds. Given
I've made my last two sets that's about 50 cents a round.
So my equipment cost is about $2.75 a round. Not bad I suppose, but I
suspect it would be a lot higher for someone who played less often than I
do.
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Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 05:19:10
From: dsc
Subject: Re: How long does it last?
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If it last more than 4 hours... brag about it... :)
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 16:58:37
From: Kevin D. Timm
Subject: Re: How long does it last?
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warren montgomery wrote:
>
> Reading an article lately about how long golf balls last made me curious how
> long all the gear lasts. (It's a rotten cold day here and I've got time on
> my hands) I play a lot of golf (probably close to 200 rounds a year) and a
> lot of my gear dies young. Here is what I get out of my gear and as a
> result what it actually costs me per round.
>
> Balls -- 2 rounds, if I don't lose it, one in good condition and one to play
> on holes where I may lose it. They cost me nothing though (between company
> logo balls and balls won in competitions I haven't bought balls in years.)
>
> Golve -- 2 months (40 rounds) that's about a quarter a round.
> Shoes -- 2 years and 150 rounds (I have more than one pair in play at any
> point in time. That's maybe 75 cents at the price I pay
> (I buy mainly dryjoys. Keeping out the water is the top concern and no
> others seem to come close in durability)
> Spikes -- 2 months (20 rounds) 50 cents. More than I would have thought.
> Bag -- 1 year (200 rounds) Another 50 cents. They used to last longer, but
> in recent years I've killed a bag a year.
> Grips -- 1 year (200 rounds). Maybe another quarter -- I replace them
> myself.
> Clubs -- last forever, but let's say 5 years or a thousand rounds. Given
> I've made my last two sets that's about 50 cents a round.
>
> So my equipment cost is about $2.75 a round. Not bad I suppose, but I
> suspect it would be a lot higher for someone who played less often than I
> do.
>
> --
> Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
> http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
Any stats are fun, and I like these a lot. I played with a couple of
guys 3 weeks ago, both trying to sell me some no-name knock-offs for
$160 a set. I glibly replied that since my sets last (a minimum of) 5
years, the difference in per round cost between their $160 set and my
$500 set wouldn't be very much. It's funny how right I was :)
Using your figures, it would be 16 cents vs. 50 cents per round for a
difference of 34 cents.
So, all else being equal, either $2.36 or $2.75. Doesn't really seem
worth it, does it? Especially when you figure my 5 year old clubs are
still worth $100, so it's not 50 cents / round, it's 40 cents per
round. That's $2.34 versus $2.65 (or 31 cents).
Thanks, that was fun.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 11:29:36
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: How long does it last?
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warren montgomery wrote:
> Reading an article lately about how long golf balls last made me curious how
> long all the gear lasts. (It's a rotten cold day here and I've got time on
> my hands) I play a lot of golf (probably close to 200 rounds a year) and a
> lot of my gear dies young. Here is what I get out of my gear and as a
> result what it actually costs me per round.
>
> Balls -- 2 rounds, if I don't lose it, one in good condition and one to play
> on holes where I may lose it. They cost me nothing though (between company
> logo balls and balls won in competitions I haven't bought balls in years.)
>
> Golve -- 2 months (40 rounds) that's about a quarter a round.
> Shoes -- 2 years and 150 rounds (I have more than one pair in play at any
> point in time. That's maybe 75 cents at the price I pay
> (I buy mainly dryjoys. Keeping out the water is the top concern and no
> others seem to come close in durability)
> Spikes -- 2 months (20 rounds) 50 cents. More than I would have thought.
> Bag -- 1 year (200 rounds) Another 50 cents. They used to last longer, but
> in recent years I've killed a bag a year.
> Grips -- 1 year (200 rounds). Maybe another quarter -- I replace them
> myself.
I don't get it. How is 1 year of golf 200 rounds, but 2 months is 20
rounds???
40 rounds for a golf glove.. Wow. I must go through 10 gloves a year
(about 70 rounds). I practice a fair amount, though.
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 01:34:25
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: George W. Bush
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:16:40 -0500, MnMikew wrote:
> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:Y3yXg.3326$v43.3155@fed1read02...
>> "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:4p7mmkFh50sqU1@individual.net...
>>> "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4m5ti2l6r46qpb5juqe0h0b36cdjjooujg@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>> You know nothing about his intelligence? Have you never seen one of
>>>> his press conferences? Anyone with common sense can see that he
>>>> isn't very bright. Can you see that?
>>>>>
>>> Just because he isnt the greatest public speaker dosent make him
>>> stupid.
>>
>> What do you think would happen if Bush was given a geography test? Or a
>> history test? Or political science? And how do you think it would stack
>> up against Clinton ... either Clinton.
>>
> I bet it would be close.
You'd lose.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 15:40:26
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: How long does it last?
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Larry Bud wrote:
> I don't get it. How is 1 year of golf 200 rounds, but 2 months is 20
> rounds???
>
> 40 rounds for a golf glove.. Wow. I must go through 10 gloves a year
> (about 70 rounds). I practice a fair amount, though.
I get 40 rounds out of a glove (which is like 2 years for me) easy and I
play with full cord grips on all of my clubs.
Wayne
--
www.nhlfa.com
"There are only two things I can't stand in this world: people who are
intolerant of other peoples' cultures, and the Dutch."
-Nigel Powers
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 11:29:13
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: How long does it last?
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yuu gize kihl me. (unk) now, pas me 2-irun for necst shot.
On Oct 12, 11:23 am, John van der Pflum <jpflu...@ughookugh.com >
wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2006 13:12:08 -0500, Aress Gee
>
> <invalid@not_real_address.com> wrote:
> >John van der Pflum <jpflu...@ughookugh.com> writes:
>
> >Of an "average amoeba" no less.
>
> >Actually, I think I tested in the 65th percentile of naked rhizopod
> >protozoans with lobed and never anastomosing pseudopodia.
>
> >But, what can you expect from somoene without permanent
> >organelles?
>
> >Thanks for the good wishes, nonetheless.Keep up the good work.
>
> I graduated in the top third of my single celled eukaryotes class with
> a major in Ciliate Studies. Those diploid and polyploid nuclei
> really came in handy.
>
> --
>
> jvdp
> Myke Plough-in-skee is not mentioned in this thread.http://www.rsgcincinnati.com/files/OH_2006_make_a_putt.avi http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 11:10:04
From: Tex
Subject: Re: How long does it last?
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John van der Pflum wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2006 12:21:16 -0500, Aress Gee
> <invalid@not_real_address.com> wrote:
>
> >"warren montgomery" <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net> writes:
> >
> >> Reading an article lately about how long golf balls last made me curious how
> >> long all the gear lasts. (It's a rotten cold day here and I've got time on
> >> my hands) I play a lot of golf (probably close to 200 rounds a year) and a
> >> lot of my gear dies young. Here is what I get out of my gear and as a
> >> result what it actually costs me per round.
> >>
> >> Balls -- 2 rounds, if I don't lose it, one in good condition and one to play
> >> on holes where I may lose it. They cost me nothing though (between company
> >> logo balls and balls won in competitions I haven't bought balls in years.)
> >>
> >> Golve -- 2 months (40 rounds) that's about a quarter a round.
> >> Shoes -- 2 years and 150 rounds (I have more than one pair in play at any
> >> point in time. That's maybe 75 cents at the price I pay
> >> (I buy mainly dryjoys. Keeping out the water is the top concern and no
> >> others seem to come close in durability)
> >> Spikes -- 2 months (20 rounds) 50 cents. More than I would have thought.
> >> Bag -- 1 year (200 rounds) Another 50 cents. They used to last longer, but
> >> in recent years I've killed a bag a year.
> >> Grips -- 1 year (200 rounds). Maybe another quarter -- I replace them
> >> myself.
> >> Clubs -- last forever, but let's say 5 years or a thousand rounds. Given
> >> I've made my last two sets that's about 50 cents a round.
> >>
> >> So my equipment cost is about $2.75 a round. Not bad I suppose, but I
> >> suspect it would be a lot higher for someone who played less often than I
> >> do.
> >
> >Doesn't your last paragraph assume that these items wear out when
> >they are NOT in use?
> >
> >If items are stored improperly when not in use (shoes allowed
> >to curl up when stored wet or clubs kept in the trunk of
> >the car during temperature extremes) then I suppose there could
> >be some degredation.
> >
> >Alas, I don't think I'll ever be bored enough to do those
> >calculations. :)
>
> Besides, you have the brain of an amoeba. Good luck with that.
I know many brain of amoeba types...you insulted them!
Tex
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 12:21:16
From: Aress Gee
Subject: Re: How long does it last?
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"warren montgomery" <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net > writes:
> Reading an article lately about how long golf balls last made me curious how
> long all the gear lasts. (It's a rotten cold day here and I've got time on
> my hands) I play a lot of golf (probably close to 200 rounds a year) and a
> lot of my gear dies young. Here is what I get out of my gear and as a
> result what it actually costs me per round.
>
> Balls -- 2 rounds, if I don't lose it, one in good condition and one to play
> on holes where I may lose it. They cost me nothing though (between company
> logo balls and balls won in competitions I haven't bought balls in years.)
>
> Golve -- 2 months (40 rounds) that's about a quarter a round.
> Shoes -- 2 years and 150 rounds (I have more than one pair in play at any
> point in time. That's maybe 75 cents at the price I pay
> (I buy mainly dryjoys. Keeping out the water is the top concern and no
> others seem to come close in durability)
> Spikes -- 2 months (20 rounds) 50 cents. More than I would have thought.
> Bag -- 1 year (200 rounds) Another 50 cents. They used to last longer, but
> in recent years I've killed a bag a year.
> Grips -- 1 year (200 rounds). Maybe another quarter -- I replace them
> myself.
> Clubs -- last forever, but let's say 5 years or a thousand rounds. Given
> I've made my last two sets that's about 50 cents a round.
>
> So my equipment cost is about $2.75 a round. Not bad I suppose, but I
> suspect it would be a lot higher for someone who played less often than I
> do.
Doesn't your last paragraph assume that these items wear out when
they are NOT in use?
If items are stored improperly when not in use (shoes allowed
to curl up when stored wet or clubs kept in the trunk of
the car during temperature extremes) then I suppose there could
be some degredation.
Alas, I don't think I'll ever be bored enough to do those
calculations. :)
--
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Mr. People who use golf as some sort of status
Aress symbol are destined to go unfulfilled.
Gee -- Golf's Most Beloved Figure
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 14:06:58
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: How long does it last?
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On 12 Oct 2006 12:21:16 -0500, Aress Gee
<invalid@not_real_address.com > wrote:
>"warren montgomery" <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
>> Reading an article lately about how long golf balls last made me curious how
>> long all the gear lasts. (It's a rotten cold day here and I've got time on
>> my hands) I play a lot of golf (probably close to 200 rounds a year) and a
>> lot of my gear dies young. Here is what I get out of my gear and as a
>> result what it actually costs me per round.
>>
>> Balls -- 2 rounds, if I don't lose it, one in good condition and one to play
>> on holes where I may lose it. They cost me nothing though (between company
>> logo balls and balls won in competitions I haven't bought balls in years.)
>>
>> Golve -- 2 months (40 rounds) that's about a quarter a round.
>> Shoes -- 2 years and 150 rounds (I have more than one pair in play at any
>> point in time. That's maybe 75 cents at the price I pay
>> (I buy mainly dryjoys. Keeping out the water is the top concern and no
>> others seem to come close in durability)
>> Spikes -- 2 months (20 rounds) 50 cents. More than I would have thought.
>> Bag -- 1 year (200 rounds) Another 50 cents. They used to last longer, but
>> in recent years I've killed a bag a year.
>> Grips -- 1 year (200 rounds). Maybe another quarter -- I replace them
>> myself.
>> Clubs -- last forever, but let's say 5 years or a thousand rounds. Given
>> I've made my last two sets that's about 50 cents a round.
>>
>> So my equipment cost is about $2.75 a round. Not bad I suppose, but I
>> suspect it would be a lot higher for someone who played less often than I
>> do.
>
>Doesn't your last paragraph assume that these items wear out when
>they are NOT in use?
>
>If items are stored improperly when not in use (shoes allowed
>to curl up when stored wet or clubs kept in the trunk of
>the car during temperature extremes) then I suppose there could
>be some degredation.
>
>Alas, I don't think I'll ever be bored enough to do those
>calculations. :)
Besides, you have the brain of an amoeba. Good luck with that.
--
jvdp
Myke Plough-in-skee is not mentioned in this thread.
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com/files/OH_2006_make_a_putt.avi
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 13:12:08
From: Aress Gee
Subject: Re: How long does it last?
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John van der Pflum <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com > writes:
> On 12 Oct 2006 12:21:16 -0500, Aress Gee
> <invalid@not_real_address.com> wrote:
>
> >"warren montgomery" <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net> writes:
> >
> >> Reading an article lately about how long golf balls last made me curious how
> >> long all the gear lasts. (It's a rotten cold day here and I've got time on
> >> my hands) I play a lot of golf (probably close to 200 rounds a year) and a
> >> lot of my gear dies young. Here is what I get out of my gear and as a
> >> result what it actually costs me per round.
> >>
> >> Balls -- 2 rounds, if I don't lose it, one in good condition and one to play
> >> on holes where I may lose it. They cost me nothing though (between company
> >> logo balls and balls won in competitions I haven't bought balls in years.)
> >>
> >> Golve -- 2 months (40 rounds) that's about a quarter a round.
> >> Shoes -- 2 years and 150 rounds (I have more than one pair in play at any
> >> point in time. That's maybe 75 cents at the price I pay
> >> (I buy mainly dryjoys. Keeping out the water is the top concern and no
> >> others seem to come close in durability)
> >> Spikes -- 2 months (20 rounds) 50 cents. More than I would have thought.
> >> Bag -- 1 year (200 rounds) Another 50 cents. They used to last longer, but
> >> in recent years I've killed a bag a year.
> >> Grips -- 1 year (200 rounds). Maybe another quarter -- I replace them
> >> myself.
> >> Clubs -- last forever, but let's say 5 years or a thousand rounds. Given
> >> I've made my last two sets that's about 50 cents a round.
> >>
> >> So my equipment cost is about $2.75 a round. Not bad I suppose, but I
> >> suspect it would be a lot higher for someone who played less often than I
> >> do.
> >
> >Doesn't your last paragraph assume that these items wear out when
> >they are NOT in use?
> >
> >If items are stored improperly when not in use (shoes allowed
> >to curl up when stored wet or clubs kept in the trunk of
> >the car during temperature extremes) then I suppose there could
> >be some degredation.
> >
> >Alas, I don't think I'll ever be bored enough to do those
> >calculations. :)
>
> Besides, you have the brain of an amoeba. Good luck with that.
Of an "average amoeba" no less.
Actually, I think I tested in the 65th percentile of naked rhizopod
protozoans with lobed and never anastomosing pseudopodia.
But, what can you expect from somoene without permanent
organelles?
Thanks for the good wishes, nonetheless.
--
+++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Mr. People who use golf as some sort of status
Aress symbol are destined to go unfulfilled.
Gee -- Golf's Most Beloved Figure
+++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 14:23:15
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: How long does it last?
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On 12 Oct 2006 13:12:08 -0500, Aress Gee
<invalid@not_real_address.com > wrote:
>John van der Pflum <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> writes:
>
>Of an "average amoeba" no less.
>
>Actually, I think I tested in the 65th percentile of naked rhizopod
>protozoans with lobed and never anastomosing pseudopodia.
>
>But, what can you expect from somoene without permanent
>organelles?
>
>Thanks for the good wishes, nonetheless.
Keep up the good work.
I graduated in the top third of my single celled eukaryotes class with
a major in Ciliate Studies. Those diploid and polyploid nuclei
really came in handy.
--
jvdp
Myke Plough-in-skee is not mentioned in this thread.
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com/files/OH_2006_make_a_putt.avi
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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