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Date: 08 Nov 2006 06:28:40
From: Skippy
Subject: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
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Date: 09 Nov 2006 16:36:05
From: KnighT
Subject: Re: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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Frank Ketchum wrote:
> "Skippy" <davidp@seviervilletn.org> wrote in message
> news:1162996120.684924.273390@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
> >
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> Many golfers think they have to "help" the ball get airborne and thus many
> times the swing will bottom out behind the ball as the golfer tries to hit
> the ball on the upswing to lift it. This is no way to try to get around the
> course! The golf swing should bottom out after the clubhead goes through
> the ball, not at the ball or before it. We call it hitting down on the
> ball. The ball gets airborne from the loft of the clubhead. Try hitting
> down on the ball with the low point of the swing being an inch or two in
> front of the ball. Be prepared, you will take a good divot when done right.
> And forget about practicing on those plastic mats at the range as they will
> teach you to scoop the ball and lead to what you describe.
Very good points, Frank. It goes against general logic: club goes
down, ball goes up. It would be helpful to point out that the low
point of the swing is always opposite the left shoulder (for righties).
This effort to try and 'help the ball that you pointed out is the
dreaded scooping, or flipping which always results in clubhead
throwaway. You throwaway any power you generated well before the ball
is ever contacted.
The golf swing is the result of two divergent forces: down and out.
All force is directed down plane, and out at the ball. Never forward.
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Date: 09 Nov 2006 15:06:27
From: jjj912@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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Skippy wrote:
> I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
I hit the ground before the ball when I break or uncock the wrists on
the downswing in such a way that the right hand gets under and in front
of the left hand. To correct it, I think about rolling the right arm
over top of the left arm. Of course, if you do that too much, you'll
hook the ball as the club face is in closed position at contact with
the ball instead of being square.
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 23:32:26
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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"Skippy" <davidp@seviervilletn.org > wrote in message
news:1162996120.684924.273390@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
>
Many golfers think they have to "help" the ball get airborne and thus many
times the swing will bottom out behind the ball as the golfer tries to hit
the ball on the upswing to lift it. This is no way to try to get around the
course! The golf swing should bottom out after the clubhead goes through
the ball, not at the ball or before it. We call it hitting down on the
ball. The ball gets airborne from the loft of the clubhead. Try hitting
down on the ball with the low point of the swing being an inch or two in
front of the ball. Be prepared, you will take a good divot when done right.
And forget about practicing on those plastic mats at the range as they will
teach you to scoop the ball and lead to what you describe.
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 23:02:28
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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On 8 Nov 2006 06:28:40 -0800, "Skippy" <davidp@seviervilletn.org >
wrote:
>I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
That has been my chronic problem. How good are you - what does your
pro say is the cause of your problem? Has a trained eye checked to
see if you are over the top or lunging?
Do you drop your head?
Are you better with long irons (a flat swing)?
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 20:13:52
From: Steve Logan
Subject: Re: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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Try looking at the spot right in front of the ball when swinging, it works
for me.
"Skippy" <davidp@seviervilletn.org > wrote in message
news:1162996120.684924.273390@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 18:25:45
From: Frankie Mc
Subject: Re: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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On 8 Nov 2006 06:28:40 -0800, "Skippy" <davidp@seviervilletn.org >
wrote:
>I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
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reverse pivot,too much weight on the left side then tranferring to the
right side when striking the ball.
Now I know this to be correct not because I am qualified to advise but
because I had this problem and my pro cured it saying this was
definately the cause .Best of luck it's a sod to do it and more than
once I headed for the bar in disgust.
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 08:31:12
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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Skippy wrote:
> I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
Try this: go to a driving range and hit a short rubber tee without a
ball on it. Keep doing it until you consistently hit it in about the
same spot every time. Then put a ball on it, or hit a ball off the turf
and see what happens.
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 08:20:08
From: KnighT
Subject: Re: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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How is your chipping ?
If you can make solid contact on small chip shots consistently without
chunking it, then work up to a pitch. Do this without hitting it fat
and work up to a full swing while applying the same motions you used to
hit the solid chip shots. You should reach impact in a similar
condition. Hands ahead of the ball....always. Jack Nicklus said
getting your hands in front of the ball before impact is fundamental to
good ball striking (from "Golf my way"). He knew what he was talking
about, that much he proved.
One possible cause, in addition to those already mentioned is over
acceleration. You want to smoothly accelerate the club from the top,
through the ball. Not at the ball.
Skippy wrote:
> I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 07:08:55
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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Skippy wrote:
> I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
Stop it.
Possibly CONTRIBUTING reasons (there is almost assuredly
no single silver bullet here).
1) Poor weight shift. You aren't getting your weight back on
your "forward" foot early enough in your down swing. May be
due to getting your weight too far aft during your back swing.
2) "Armsy". You are initiating your down swing almost
entirely with your arms, and to a great extent "finishing"
it with your arms.
3) Poor set up. You're putting the ball to far forward in
your stance for your setup.
4) Poor tempo. You're hurrying your swing and initiating
your down swing too early. Finish the back swing first.
A fast back swing doesn't exactly mean a fast down
swing. I've seen good ball strikers that practically
"raise" their clubs during the back swing as oppose to
swinging them back.
Solution:
Really a couple of lessons with any competent pro
should be able to cure this particular issue.
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 06:33:13
From: Ken Meltzer
Subject: Re: Hitting behind the ball, in a bad way.
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Skippy wrote:
> I am hittng the ground well before impact. Any advice?
Stop doing it! (;-)
In all seriousness, the best advice I can give is to seek out a really
good PGA professional, and work hard with him or her to produce a swing
that will hit the ball first, then the ground. I could give you lots
of potential reasons why you're probably hitting "fat," but since I'm
an amateur, you'll get what you pay for. A pro will probably be able
to recognize the cause quickly, and get you on the right (swing) path.
Good luck!
Best,
Ken
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