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Date: 12 Oct 2006 19:47:08
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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His business dealings left a lot to be desired....and thought about.
Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
executions during his tenure.
http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_4.htm
http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_5.htm
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 18:49:09
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Carbon wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:59:53 -0700, Tex wrote:
> > Carbon wrote:
> >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:25:33 -0700, Tex wrote:
> >> > MnMikew wrote:
> >> >> "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:pan.2006.10.20.03.40.07.786915@nospam.verizon.net...
> >>
> >> >> > Like when you declared the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.
> >> >>
> >> >> I keep hearing about all this oil we should be swimming in. Where is
> >> >> it? Isnt the double secret Halliburton pipeline done yet?
> >> >
> >> > BTW, my "insiders" tell me that anyone who votes straight Republican
> >> > in Nov will get gasoline at $1.50/gallon thanks to that new pipeline.
> >>
> >> Here's a little math exercise. Multiply Iraq's proven oil reserves here
> >> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html with the current price of
> >> oil here http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/ and you get ~6.8 trillion
> >> dollars.
> >>
> >> You guys are right, it's nothing. Hardly worth starting a war over. And
> >> certainly not in Iran either, which has even more oil than Iraq. No,
> >> we're going to invade them because they have WMD. Oh wait, that was
> >> Iraq. Nukes, that's it. We must invade because Iran wants to build
> >> nukes.
> >>
> >> Unlike, oh I don't know, N Korea. Which already appears to have them.
> >
> > Why not invade the US? Afterall, we have more reserves than Iraq...
>
> Bzzt. Wrong. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html
Of course you'd cite "proven"...afterall, wackos won't let us "prove"
the reserves in the USA.
That means drilling. Can't have that! It's the Environment!
Tex
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Date: 21 Oct 2006 20:44:06
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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In article <1161395349.060561.98080@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
> Carbon wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:59:53 -0700, Tex wrote:
> > > Carbon wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:25:33 -0700, Tex wrote:
> > >> > MnMikew wrote:
> > >> >> "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:pan.2006.10.20.03.40.07.786915@nospam.verizon.net...
> > >>
> > >> >> > Like when you declared the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I keep hearing about all this oil we should be swimming in. Where is
> > >> >> it? Isnt the double secret Halliburton pipeline done yet?
> > >> >
> > >> > BTW, my "insiders" tell me that anyone who votes straight Republican
> > >> > in Nov will get gasoline at $1.50/gallon thanks to that new pipeline.
> > >>
> > >> Here's a little math exercise. Multiply Iraq's proven oil reserves here
> > >> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html with the current price of
> > >> oil here http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/ and you get ~6.8 trillion
> > >> dollars.
> > >>
> > >> You guys are right, it's nothing. Hardly worth starting a war over. And
> > >> certainly not in Iran either, which has even more oil than Iraq. No,
> > >> we're going to invade them because they have WMD. Oh wait, that was
> > >> Iraq. Nukes, that's it. We must invade because Iran wants to build
> > >> nukes.
> > >>
> > >> Unlike, oh I don't know, N Korea. Which already appears to have them.
> > >
> > > Why not invade the US? Afterall, we have more reserves than Iraq...
> >
> > Bzzt. Wrong. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html
>
> Of course you'd cite "proven"...afterall, wackos won't let us "prove"
> the reserves in the USA.
> That means drilling. Can't have that! It's the Environment!
>
> Tex
Nice try at evading the issue. Why not just own up to being wrong for
once in your life?
William Clark
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 15:59:53
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Carbon wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:25:33 -0700, Tex wrote:
> > MnMikew wrote:
> >> "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:pan.2006.10.20.03.40.07.786915@nospam.verizon.net...
>
> >> > Like when you declared the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.
> >>
> >> I keep hearing about all this oil we should be swimming in. Where is
> >> it? Isnt the double secret Halliburton pipeline done yet?
> >
> > BTW, my "insiders" tell me that anyone who votes straight Republican in
> > Nov will get gasoline at $1.50/gallon thanks to that new pipeline.
>
>
> Here's a little math exercise. Multiply Iraq's proven oil reserves here
> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html with the current price of oil
> here http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/ and you get ~6.8 trillion dollars.
>
> You guys are right, it's nothing. Hardly worth starting a war over. And
> certainly not in Iran either, which has even more oil than Iraq. No, we're
> going to invade them because they have WMD. Oh wait, that was Iraq. Nukes,
> that's it. We must invade because Iran wants to build nukes.
>
> Unlike, oh I don't know, N Korea. Which already appears to have them.
Why not invade the US? Afterall, we have more reserves than Iraq...and
we have coal reserves that will provide more energy than all the Oil in
Saudi...
Oh wait, you think you've been invaded already.
Beam yourself up Burnt Brain.
Tex
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 14:48:36
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> :
> : Chris Bellomy wrote:
> :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> :> :
> :> : MnMikew wrote:
> :> :> "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> :> :> news:pan.2006.10.20.03.40.07.786915@nospam.verizon.net...
> :> :> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:02:47 +0000, bill-o wrote:
> :> :> >> On 19-Oct-2006, Carbon <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> :> :> >>
> :> :> >>> Oh, so you're an empiricist now. Unlike the other day when you
> :> :> >>> dismissed the Lancet study as being a hitjob by a bunch of pinko commie
> :> :> >>> academics.
> :> :> >>
> :> :> >> Empirical extrapolation is an oxymoron.
> :> :> >
> :> :> > No doubt you would be just as up in arms if the Lancet study produced
> :> :> > conclusions you liked. Because you live for truth, casting aside any hint
> :> :> > of bias, trusting alone reason to illuminate what was mere darkness
> :> :> > before.
> :> :> >
> :> :> > Like when you declared the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.
> :> :>
> :> :> I keep hearing about all this oil we should be swimming in. Where is it?
> :> :> Isnt the double secret Halliburton pipeline done yet?
> :> :
> :> : It's triple secret now, that's why you stopped hearing about it...not
> :> : even the NYTimes can get past triple secret information.
> :>
> :> Come on, boys, surely you can figure out that incompetence
> :> doesn't mean there wasn't a plan. Especially you, k, I
> :> know you're ster than this.
> :
> : Come on Chris, you have to get some new material. I know you are
> : ster than this.
>
> Not really. I'm pretty dumb.
>
> You, though... making an argument you *know* is pure sophistry...
> oh, I forgot, you're a troll. :-p
If you are pretty dumb, then you can't *know* I'm ster, now can you.
Dumbass.
Tex
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 22:04:41
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:25:33 -0700, Tex wrote:
> MnMikew wrote:
>> "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.10.20.03.40.07.786915@nospam.verizon.net...
>> > Like when you declared the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.
>>
>> I keep hearing about all this oil we should be swimming in. Where is
>> it? Isnt the double secret Halliburton pipeline done yet?
>
> BTW, my "insiders" tell me that anyone who votes straight Republican in
> Nov will get gasoline at $1.50/gallon thanks to that new pipeline.
Here's a little math exercise. Multiply Iraq's proven oil reserves here
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html with the current price of oil
here http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/ and you get ~6.8 trillion dollars.
You guys are right, it's nothing. Hardly worth starting a war over. And
certainly not in Iran either, which has even more oil than Iraq. No, we're
going to invade them because they have WMD. Oh wait, that was Iraq. Nukes,
that's it. We must invade because Iran wants to build nukes.
Unlike, oh I don't know, N Korea. Which already appears to have them.
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 13:05:52
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> :
> : MnMikew wrote:
> :> "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> :> news:pan.2006.10.20.03.40.07.786915@nospam.verizon.net...
> :> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:02:47 +0000, bill-o wrote:
> :> >> On 19-Oct-2006, Carbon <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> :> >>
> :> >>> Oh, so you're an empiricist now. Unlike the other day when you
> :> >>> dismissed the Lancet study as being a hitjob by a bunch of pinko commie
> :> >>> academics.
> :> >>
> :> >> Empirical extrapolation is an oxymoron.
> :> >
> :> > No doubt you would be just as up in arms if the Lancet study produced
> :> > conclusions you liked. Because you live for truth, casting aside any hint
> :> > of bias, trusting alone reason to illuminate what was mere darkness
> :> > before.
> :> >
> :> > Like when you declared the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.
> :>
> :> I keep hearing about all this oil we should be swimming in. Where is it?
> :> Isnt the double secret Halliburton pipeline done yet?
> :
> : It's triple secret now, that's why you stopped hearing about it...not
> : even the NYTimes can get past triple secret information.
>
> Come on, boys, surely you can figure out that incompetence
> doesn't mean there wasn't a plan. Especially you, k, I
> know you're ster than this.
Come on Chris, you have to get some new material. I know you are
ster than this.
Tex
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 10:25:33
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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MnMikew wrote:
> "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.10.20.03.40.07.786915@nospam.verizon.net...
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:02:47 +0000, bill-o wrote:
> >> On 19-Oct-2006, Carbon <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oh, so you're an empiricist now. Unlike the other day when you
> >>> dismissed the Lancet study as being a hitjob by a bunch of pinko commie
> >>> academics.
> >>
> >> Empirical extrapolation is an oxymoron.
> >
> > No doubt you would be just as up in arms if the Lancet study produced
> > conclusions you liked. Because you live for truth, casting aside any hint
> > of bias, trusting alone reason to illuminate what was mere darkness
> > before.
> >
> > Like when you declared the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.
>
> I keep hearing about all this oil we should be swimming in. Where is it?
> Isnt the double secret Halliburton pipeline done yet?
BTW, my "insiders" tell me that anyone who votes straight Republican in
Nov will get gasoline at $1.50/gallon thanks to that new pipeline.
Tex
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 10:24:15
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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MnMikew wrote:
> "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.10.20.03.40.07.786915@nospam.verizon.net...
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:02:47 +0000, bill-o wrote:
> >> On 19-Oct-2006, Carbon <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oh, so you're an empiricist now. Unlike the other day when you
> >>> dismissed the Lancet study as being a hitjob by a bunch of pinko commie
> >>> academics.
> >>
> >> Empirical extrapolation is an oxymoron.
> >
> > No doubt you would be just as up in arms if the Lancet study produced
> > conclusions you liked. Because you live for truth, casting aside any hint
> > of bias, trusting alone reason to illuminate what was mere darkness
> > before.
> >
> > Like when you declared the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.
>
> I keep hearing about all this oil we should be swimming in. Where is it?
> Isnt the double secret Halliburton pipeline done yet?
It's triple secret now, that's why you stopped hearing about it...not
even the NYTimes can get past triple secret information.
Tex
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 19:03:59
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
:
: MnMikew wrote:
: > "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
: > news:pan.2006.10.20.03.40.07.786915@nospam.verizon.net...
: > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:02:47 +0000, bill-o wrote:
: > >> On 19-Oct-2006, Carbon <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
: > >>
: > >>> Oh, so you're an empiricist now. Unlike the other day when you
: > >>> dismissed the Lancet study as being a hitjob by a bunch of pinko commie
: > >>> academics.
: > >>
: > >> Empirical extrapolation is an oxymoron.
: > >
: > > No doubt you would be just as up in arms if the Lancet study produced
: > > conclusions you liked. Because you live for truth, casting aside any hint
: > > of bias, trusting alone reason to illuminate what was mere darkness
: > > before.
: > >
: > > Like when you declared the war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.
: >
: > I keep hearing about all this oil we should be swimming in. Where is it?
: > Isnt the double secret Halliburton pipeline done yet?
:
: It's triple secret now, that's why you stopped hearing about it...not
: even the NYTimes can get past triple secret information.
Come on, boys, surely you can figure out that incompetence
doesn't mean there wasn't a plan. Especially you, k, I
know you're ster than this.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 13:21:01
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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MnMikew wrote:
> "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.10.18.17.38.57.316465@nospam.verizon.net...
> > On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:28:04 -0500, MnMikew wrote:
> >> "Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:pan.2006.10.16.22.22.23.401040@nospam.verizon.net...
> >>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:46 -0500, MnMikew wrote:
> >>>> "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:58j7j251riudh1gj7tgvcs3t6h908p8q0d@4ax.com...
> >>>>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>> Bobby Knight wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number
> >>>>>>>> of executions during his tenure.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
> >>>>> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry. bk
> >>>>
> >>>> And just how many times in Texas has that happened?
> >>>
> >>> At least 7 times from 1973 to 2003 people convicted of death in Texas
> >>> were later exonerated. There were undoubtedly more. But hey, what's a
> >>> few killins' between friends? The families will understand. After all,
> >>> there are elections to win.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.abanet.org/crimjust/spring2003/death_penalty.html
> >>
> >
> >
> > Evidently you're trying to imply that no one in Texas has ever been
> > wrongly executed. Given the large number of people killed by the state of
> > Texas every year, I find that amazing.
>
> I'm looking for evidence it happened.
I don't know if it's ever happened, but it's funny how people who hate
government and think it can't do anything right seem to think state
govts. are perfect on capital punishment and couldn't possibly have
ever executed an innocent person.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:22:26
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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MnMikew wrote:
> "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
> news:0T3i3f70Il4uN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > : Chris Bellomy wrote:
> > :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > :>
> > :> : Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an underage
> > :> : Page years ago?
> > :>
> > :> Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
> > :> action was taken?
> > :
> > : No, there is no reason to imply that. Do you think he did?
> >
> > I don't think so. I can speak only for myself here, but my
> > anger about the Foley mess isn't directed so much at Foley
> > himself, whom I find pathetic and sad, but rather at Hastert
> > and anybody else in the GOP leadership who knew about Foley
> > but didn't do a thing to stop him because they feared the
> > political repercussions.
> >
> What about the media and Dems who knew about this about a year before and
> did nothing? The blame should be squarely on Foley, period. Just as Studds.
There's a difference between knowing something and having the standard
of proof needed to publish it in a newspaper or broadcast it on TV
without fear of a libel suit. I doubt very seriously that anyone in the
media had solid evidence that Foley was sending sexually explicit
e-mails to underage boys and chose not to report it.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 17:15:29
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1161033746.102314.113040@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> MnMikew wrote:
>> "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:0T3i3f70Il4uN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
>> > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > : Chris Bellomy wrote:
>> > :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > :>
>> > :> : Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an
>> > underage
>> > :> : Page years ago?
>> > :>
>> > :> Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
>> > :> action was taken?
>> > :
>> > : No, there is no reason to imply that. Do you think he did?
>> >
>> > I don't think so. I can speak only for myself here, but my
>> > anger about the Foley mess isn't directed so much at Foley
>> > himself, whom I find pathetic and sad, but rather at Hastert
>> > and anybody else in the GOP leadership who knew about Foley
>> > but didn't do a thing to stop him because they feared the
>> > political repercussions.
>> >
>> What about the media and Dems who knew about this about a year before and
>> did nothing? The blame should be squarely on Foley, period. Just as
>> Studds.
>
> There's a difference between knowing something and having the standard
> of proof needed to publish it in a newspaper or broadcast it on TV
> without fear of a libel suit. I doubt very seriously that anyone in the
> media had solid evidence that Foley was sending sexually explicit
> e-mails to underage boys and chose not to report it.
>
Didnt the media have the same info Hastert supposedly had?
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 13:00:44
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> : Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an underage
> : Page years ago?
>
> Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
> action was taken?
No, there is no reason to imply that. Do you think he did?
Tex
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 20:36:20
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
: Chris Bellomy wrote:
: > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
: >
: > : Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an underage
: > : Page years ago?
: >
: > Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
: > action was taken?
:
: No, there is no reason to imply that. Do you think he did?
I don't think so. I can speak only for myself here, but my
anger about the Foley mess isn't directed so much at Foley
himself, whom I find pathetic and sad, but rather at Hastert
and anybody else in the GOP leadership who knew about Foley
but didn't do a thing to stop him because they feared the
political repercussions.
So your reminder about Gerry Studds is appropriate to a
point, but it's still true that this scandal goes beyond
what happened back then.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:22:29
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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About Foley's pathetic state: When I watch the "Dateline" shows about online
predators, I get the feeling that they really are pathetic. Maybe not able
to relate to people their own age or fixated at an age by some trauma or
something. They should be locked up forever but I do see the pathetic side.
When they are caught, they act like little children. The TV guy says "Go sit
over there." and the sit. He says "Why were you here?" and they answer in
quiet little voices, sometimes ...
nevermind, this whole subject is too sick to try to understand.
"Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message
news:0T3i3f70Il4uN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> : Chris Bellomy wrote:
> :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> :>
> :> : Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an underage
> :> : Page years ago?
> :>
> :> Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
> :> action was taken?
> :
> : No, there is no reason to imply that. Do you think he did?
>
> I don't think so. I can speak only for myself here, but my
> anger about the Foley mess isn't directed so much at Foley
> himself, whom I find pathetic and sad, but rather at Hastert
> and anybody else in the GOP leadership who knew about Foley
> but didn't do a thing to stop him because they feared the
> political repercussions.
>
> So your reminder about Gerry Studds is appropriate to a
> point, but it's still true that this scandal goes beyond
> what happened back then.
>
> --
> Chris Bellomy
> C-List Charter Member
> http://clist.org/
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 16:11:53
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message
news:0T3i3f70Il4uN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> : Chris Bellomy wrote:
> :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> :>
> :> : Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an underage
> :> : Page years ago?
> :>
> :> Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
> :> action was taken?
> :
> : No, there is no reason to imply that. Do you think he did?
>
> I don't think so. I can speak only for myself here, but my
> anger about the Foley mess isn't directed so much at Foley
> himself, whom I find pathetic and sad, but rather at Hastert
> and anybody else in the GOP leadership who knew about Foley
> but didn't do a thing to stop him because they feared the
> political repercussions.
>
What about the media and Dems who knew about this about a year before and
did nothing? The blame should be squarely on Foley, period. Just as Studds.
> So your reminder about Gerry Studds is appropriate to a
> point, but it's still true that this scandal goes beyond
> what happened back then.
>
> --
> Chris Bellomy
> C-List Charter Member
> http://clist.org/
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 19:38:12
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote
>>
> What about the media and Dems who knew about this about a year before and
> did nothing? The blame should be squarely on Foley, period. Just as
> Studds.
Nice try. There's no evidence that I've heard that anyone outside the
Republican "family" knew about this. They did a nice job of sweeping it
under the rug.........for a while.
I will say this, though....if any Dems did know about it, they were just as
culpable.
Party ties have nothing whatsoever to do with this. It's just that, as far
as we know, only Repubs knew about it. Your assumption that Dems knew, too,
is not based on anything but wishful thinking.
Randy
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 09:47:36
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:zO6dnW6VQbFTiqnYnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote
>>>
>> What about the media and Dems who knew about this about a year before and
>> did nothing? The blame should be squarely on Foley, period. Just as
>> Studds.
>
>
> Nice try. There's no evidence that I've heard that anyone outside the
> Republican "family" knew about this. They did a nice job of sweeping it
> under the rug.........for a while.
>
> I will say this, though....if any Dems did know about it, they were just
> as culpable.
>
> Party ties have nothing whatsoever to do with this. It's just that, as
> far as we know, only Repubs knew about it. Your assumption that Dems
> knew, too, is not based on anything but wishful thinking.
>
http://www.harpers.org/sb-republicans-1160492797.html
In May, a source put me in touch with a Democratic operative who provided me
with the now-infamous emails that Foley had sent in 2004 to a
sixteen-year-old page.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 21:26:01
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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MnMikew <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote:
:
: "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message
: news:0T3i3f70Il4uN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
: > Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
: > : Chris Bellomy wrote:
: > :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
: > :>
: > :> : Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an underage
: > :> : Page years ago?
: > :>
: > :> Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
: > :> action was taken?
: > :
: > : No, there is no reason to imply that. Do you think he did?
: >
: > I don't think so. I can speak only for myself here, but my
: > anger about the Foley mess isn't directed so much at Foley
: > himself, whom I find pathetic and sad, but rather at Hastert
: > and anybody else in the GOP leadership who knew about Foley
: > but didn't do a thing to stop him because they feared the
: > political repercussions.
: >
: What about the media and Dems who knew about this about a year before and
: did nothing?
Nothing exonerates the people who actually held the power in
this situation and did nothing. Nice try at deflection, Mike.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 17:16:30
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message
news:0T3i3ia1Im8aN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> MnMikew <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
> :
> : "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
> : news:0T3i3f70Il4uN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> :> : Chris Bellomy wrote:
> :> :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> :> :>
> :> :> : Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an
> underage
> :> :> : Page years ago?
> :> :>
> :> :> Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
> :> :> action was taken?
> :> :
> :> : No, there is no reason to imply that. Do you think he did?
> :>
> :> I don't think so. I can speak only for myself here, but my
> :> anger about the Foley mess isn't directed so much at Foley
> :> himself, whom I find pathetic and sad, but rather at Hastert
> :> and anybody else in the GOP leadership who knew about Foley
> :> but didn't do a thing to stop him because they feared the
> :> political repercussions.
> :>
> : What about the media and Dems who knew about this about a year before
> and
> : did nothing?
>
> Nothing exonerates the people who actually held the power in
> this situation and did nothing. Nice try at deflection, Mike.
>
>
I'm not deflecting shit. Where is your anger with the media and the DNC?
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 19:39:42
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote in message
news:4pieluFir98bU1@individual.net...
>
> "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
> news:0T3i3ia1Im8aN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
>> MnMikew <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
>> :
>> : "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
>> : news:0T3i3f70Il4uN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
>> :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>> :> : Chris Bellomy wrote:
>> :> :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>> :> :>
>> :> :> : Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an
>> underage
>> :> :> : Page years ago?
>> :> :>
>> :> :> Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
>> :> :> action was taken?
>> :> :
>> :> : No, there is no reason to imply that. Do you think he did?
>> :>
>> :> I don't think so. I can speak only for myself here, but my
>> :> anger about the Foley mess isn't directed so much at Foley
>> :> himself, whom I find pathetic and sad, but rather at Hastert
>> :> and anybody else in the GOP leadership who knew about Foley
>> :> but didn't do a thing to stop him because they feared the
>> :> political repercussions.
>> :>
>> : What about the media and Dems who knew about this about a year before
>> and
>> : did nothing?
>>
>> Nothing exonerates the people who actually held the power in
>> this situation and did nothing. Nice try at deflection, Mike.
>>
>>
> I'm not deflecting shit. Where is your anger with the media and the DNC?
Where is your evidence that this was known by anyone outside the Republican
"family?"
And don't throw anything from the Drudge Report. That's not exactly the
most unbiased source, y'know.
Randy
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 06:30:04
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On 16-Oct-2006, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote:
> Where is your evidence that this was known by anyone outside the
> Republican
> "family?"
>
> And don't throw anything from the Drudge Report. That's not exactly the
> most unbiased source, y'know.
> Randy
Check this e-mail out from a consultant to Foley's opponent to a blogger
http://billhobbs.com/fletchemail.pdf
inresponse to this speculative opinion:
http://terryfrank.net/?p=894
As my man Bill of Bath would say: "thou doth protest too much!"
--
bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 22:22:23
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:46 -0500, MnMikew wrote:
> "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
> news:58j7j251riudh1gj7tgvcs3t6h908p8q0d@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Bobby Knight wrote:
>>>>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number
>>>>> of executions during his tenure.
>>>>>
>>>Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
>>>
>> You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
>> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry. bk
>
> And just how many times in Texas has that happened?
At least 7 times from 1973 to 2003 people convicted of death in Texas were
later exonerated. There were undoubtedly more. But hey, what's a few
killins' between friends? The families will understand. After all, there
are elections to win.
http://www.abanet.org/crimjust/spring2003/death_penalty.html
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 09:20:39
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message
news:0T3i3lrvIncgN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> MnMikew <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
> :
> : "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
> : news:0T3i3ia1Im8aN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> :> MnMikew <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
> :> :
> :> : "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message
> :> : news:0T3i3f70Il4uN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> :> :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> :> :> : Chris Bellomy wrote:
> :> :> :> Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
> :> :> :>
> :> :> :> : Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an
> :> underage
> :> :> :> : Page years ago?
> :> :> :>
> :> :> :> Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
> :> :> :> action was taken?
> :> :> :
> :> :> : No, there is no reason to imply that. Do you think he did?
> :> :>
> :> :> I don't think so. I can speak only for myself here, but my
> :> :> anger about the Foley mess isn't directed so much at Foley
> :> :> himself, whom I find pathetic and sad, but rather at Hastert
> :> :> and anybody else in the GOP leadership who knew about Foley
> :> :> but didn't do a thing to stop him because they feared the
> :> :> political repercussions.
> :> :>
> :> : What about the media and Dems who knew about this about a year before
> :> and
> :> : did nothing?
> :>
> :> Nothing exonerates the people who actually held the power in
> :> this situation and did nothing. Nice try at deflection, Mike.
> :>
> : I'm not deflecting shit. Where is your anger with the media and the DNC?
>
> I have no anger with them. They either didn't know about this
> (DNC) or weren't in a position to run a story about it (media).
>
> Hastert knew what was going on, and was in a position to do
> something about it. He chose not to.
>
I dont think Hastert knew as much as they say he did.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 12:11:32
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Bobby Knight wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:55:39 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1161024403.027505.296880@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> annika1980 wrote:
> >>> Tex wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
> >>> > elsewhere.
> >>> >
> >>> > Tex
> >>>
> >>> Whatsa matter? You don't like it when we talk about your party?
> >>> Especially now that the Republicans have become the party of ......
> >>> let's see, what was it?
> >>>
> >>> Oh yeah .... the party of the "CHILD MOLESTERS!"
> >>
> >> Is that why you became a Democrat?? Afterall, they were molesting pages
> >> years ago.
> >>
> >> Tex
> >>
> >That selective memory of the left in action.
> >
> The monstrous generalities of the right in action.
Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an underage
Page years ago?
Would the Congressional Record clear it up for you?
FTR, the molester died over the weekend.
Tex
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 19:38:47
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Tex <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
: Which generality? Do you deny that a Democrat molested an underage
: Page years ago?
Do you imply that Tip O'Neill knew about it long before any
action was taken?
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 12:08:46
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Bobby Knight wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:46 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
> >news:58j7j251riudh1gj7tgvcs3t6h908p8q0d@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>
> >>>> Bobby Knight wrote:
> >>>>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
> >>>>> executions during his tenure.
> >>>>>
> >>>Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
> >>>
> >> You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
> >> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
> >> bk
> >
> >And just how many times in Texas has that happened?
> >
> Since 1973, 123 people in 25 states have been released from death row
> with evidence of their innocence. Once someone has been executed
> defense attorneys move on to other cases where clients' lives can
> still be saved. Even if it happened once, that's too many.
How many were executed accidently? That was the original question that
you decided not to answer. Since you are into stats...since 1973, how
many people have neem put on death row?
A more telling stat might be, how many murderers are let go, only to
murder again?
If it happens once, that's too many.
Tex
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:07:19
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1161025725.929696.235330@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Bobby Knight wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:46 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
>> >news:58j7j251riudh1gj7tgvcs3t6h908p8q0d@4ax.com...
>> >> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bobby Knight wrote:
>> >>>>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> executions during his tenure.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
>> >>>
>> >> You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
>> >> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
>> >> bk
>> >
>> >And just how many times in Texas has that happened?
>> >
>> Since 1973, 123 people in 25 states have been released from death row
>> with evidence of their innocence. Once someone has been executed
>> defense attorneys move on to other cases where clients' lives can
>> still be saved. Even if it happened once, that's too many.
>
> How many were executed accidently? That was the original question that
> you decided not to answer. Since you are into stats...since 1973, how
> many people have neem put on death row?
>
> A more telling stat might be, how many murderers are let go, only to
> murder again?
> If it happens once, that's too many.
>
> Tex
If you killed everyone there would be no murders. That kind of leaves you
with the reality that killing an innocent person is what? negligent
homocide? The police and DAs have demonstrated their corruption so many
times it makes me wonder if the kinds of things they do should be prosecuted
criminally.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 11:51:28
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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AKA Gray Asphalt wrote:
> "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
> news:u1oti2drk6og2ul48aht3e098hcf1on4ja@4ax.com...
> >
> > His business dealings left a lot to be desired....and thought about.
> > Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
> > executions during his tenure.
> >
> >
> > http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_4.htm
> >
> > http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_5.htm
>
> That's when I really started hating Bush. I guess I have to admit it's not
> all logical. He let a woman who had turned her life around, become a
> Christian and for years and years taught and ministered to prisoners where
> she was jailed.
How many "Christians" do you find on Death Row?
Answer: Most of them rotting in cells waiting for their sentence.
Nothing like the knowledge that you are about to meet your maker turns
a person quick to the good book.
I know, let's let them all out (the Christians) and send them to live
in your neighborhood and attend your Church. Hint: get a gun and
protect yourself...I doubt all of them will stay "christians" for too
long.
Tex
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:12:00
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1161024688.817223.243430@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> AKA Gray Asphalt wrote:
>> "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
>> news:u1oti2drk6og2ul48aht3e098hcf1on4ja@4ax.com...
>> >
>> > His business dealings left a lot to be desired....and thought about.
>> > Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
>> > executions during his tenure.
>> >
>> >
>> > http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_4.htm
>> >
>> > http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_5.htm
>>
>> That's when I really started hating Bush. I guess I have to admit it's
>> not
>> all logical. He let a woman who had turned her life around, become a
>> Christian and for years and years taught and ministered to prisoners
>> where
>> she was jailed.
>
> How many "Christians" do you find on Death Row?
> Answer: Most of them rotting in cells waiting for their sentence.
>
> Nothing like the knowledge that you are about to meet your maker turns
> a person quick to the good book.
>
> I know, let's let them all out (the Christians) and send them to live
> in your neighborhood and attend your Church. Hint: get a gun and
> protect yourself...I doubt all of them will stay "christians" for too
> long.
>
> Tex
You had to see the program about her. I bet that you would have a different
opinion. She was a teenager on drugs who had been prostituted by her
parents. The Pople and a bunch of evangelical Christians and others
petitioned for her sentence to be changed to life without parole.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 11:46:43
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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annika1980 wrote:
> Tex wrote:
> >
> > Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
> > elsewhere.
> >
> > Tex
>
> Whatsa matter? You don't like it when we talk about your party?
> Especially now that the Republicans have become the party of ......
> let's see, what was it?
>
> Oh yeah .... the party of the "CHILD MOLESTERS!"
Is that why you became a Democrat?? Afterall, they were molesting pages
years ago.
Tex
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 13:55:39
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1161024403.027505.296880@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> annika1980 wrote:
>> Tex wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
>> > elsewhere.
>> >
>> > Tex
>>
>> Whatsa matter? You don't like it when we talk about your party?
>> Especially now that the Republicans have become the party of ......
>> let's see, what was it?
>>
>> Oh yeah .... the party of the "CHILD MOLESTERS!"
>
> Is that why you became a Democrat?? Afterall, they were molesting pages
> years ago.
>
> Tex
>
That selective memory of the left in action.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:06:11
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:55:39 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com >
wrote:
>
>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1161024403.027505.296880@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> annika1980 wrote:
>>> Tex wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
>>> > elsewhere.
>>> >
>>> > Tex
>>>
>>> Whatsa matter? You don't like it when we talk about your party?
>>> Especially now that the Republicans have become the party of ......
>>> let's see, what was it?
>>>
>>> Oh yeah .... the party of the "CHILD MOLESTERS!"
>>
>> Is that why you became a Democrat?? Afterall, they were molesting pages
>> years ago.
>>
>> Tex
>>
>That selective memory of the left in action.
>
The monstrous generalities of the right in action.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 11:45:50
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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annika1980 wrote:
> Tex wrote:
> >
> > Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
> > elsewhere.
> >
> > Tex
>
> Whatsa matter? You don't like it when we talk about your party?
> Especially now that the Republicans have become the party of ......
> let's see, what was it?
>
> Oh yeah .... the party of the "CHILD MOLESTERS!"
Now you can join the party, get out of the closet...so to speak.
Tex
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 11:28:31
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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> >Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.Y
>You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
Like who?
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:04:07
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1161023311.487492.284380@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> >Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.Y
>
>>You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
>> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
>
> Like who?
I just want it to be clear that not replying to Larry's posts is not an act
of agreement, just an attempt at maintaing some semblence of sanity.
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 23:57:18
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
news:u1oti2drk6og2ul48aht3e098hcf1on4ja@4ax.com...
>
> His business dealings left a lot to be desired....and thought about.
> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
> executions during his tenure.
>
>
> http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_4.htm
>
> http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_5.htm
That's when I really started hating Bush. I guess I have to admit it's not
all logical. He let a woman who had turned her life around, become a
Christian and for years and years taught and ministered to prisoners where
she was jailed. She murdered someone while on drugs and she was a teenager
at the time. Her real crime, the thing that probably got her executed was
that she said she got sexual satisfaction from the murder. That was sympton
of how screwed up she was, having been raped and prostituted by one of her
parents, maybe it was both. I swore I'd never forget her name, but I forget
now, maybe for the best.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 19:28:18
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Tex wrote:
>
> Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
> elsewhere.
>
> Tex
Whatsa matter? You don't like it when we talk about your party?
Especially now that the Republicans have become the party of ......
let's see, what was it?
Oh yeah .... the party of the "CHILD MOLESTERS!"
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 00:02:37
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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OK, I was trying to forget this, but after the Jon Benet thread that many of
us got into, it occurs to me that Bill Clinton seems to be the kind of guy
that would love beauty pageants. And if anyone would have been in favor of
little girls learning how to pleasure men so that when they grew up, they'd
be good for guys like him. I'm not saying he was after little girls but his
actions sure didn't hurt the cause of pimps and other creeps trying to "turn
out" young girls for prostitution or just privat use.
I'm not saying what Clinton does, in that respect, and who believes he isn't
still active? ... I'm not saying that's on a level with starting a war ...
but let the chips fall where they may and some of the cow chips fall on Bill
Clinton.
"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1160706498.368705.93410@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Tex wrote:
>>
>> Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
>> elsewhere.
>>
>> Tex
>
> Whatsa matter? You don't like it when we talk about your party?
> Especially now that the Republicans have become the party of ......
> let's see, what was it?
>
> Oh yeah .... the party of the "CHILD MOLESTERS!"
>
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 02:46:04
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
:
: Tex wrote:
: >
: > Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
: > elsewhere.
: >
: > Tex
:
: Whatsa matter? You don't like it when we talk about your party?
: Especially now that the Republicans have become the party of ......
: let's see, what was it?
:
: Oh yeah .... the party of the "CHILD MOLESTERS!"
In the "how long before somebody asks Bret if that changes
his vote" pool, I have 2 hours, 17 minutes.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 18:49:28
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Bobby Knight wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2006 18:00:07 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Bobby Knight wrote:
> >> His business dealings left a lot to be desired....and thought about.
> >> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
> >> executions during his tenure.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_4.htm
> >>
> >> http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_5.htm
> >
> >Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
> >elsewhere.
> >
> >Tex
>
> You haven't posted a word about golf during this whole GB thread
> ideologue! Take your single-mindedness elsewhere.
Take your pill and sleep...your brain is too tired Bobby.
You've spent the entire day ranting about Bush and wishing you could
still play golf.
You are no good at either.
Tex
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 21:02:57
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On 12 Oct 2006 18:49:28 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
>Take your pill and sleep...your brain is too tired Bobby.
>You've spent the entire day ranting about Bush and wishing you could
>still play golf.
>You are no good at either.
>
>Tex
Well, you're half right, as usual.
--
___,
\o
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 18:00:07
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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Bobby Knight wrote:
> His business dealings left a lot to be desired....and thought about.
> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
> executions during his tenure.
>
>
> http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_4.htm
>
> http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_5.htm
Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
elsewhere.
Tex
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Bobby Knight wrote:
>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
>> executions during his tenure.
>>
Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 13:21:57
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com >
wrote:
>
>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Bobby Knight wrote:
>>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
>>> executions during his tenure.
>>>
>Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
>
You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
bk
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 19:23:14
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:21:57 -0500, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:
>You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
>found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
Not to mention the family of the innocent person who was put in prison
for life.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 13:39:46
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
news:58j7j251riudh1gj7tgvcs3t6h908p8q0d@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> Bobby Knight wrote:
>>>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
>>>> executions during his tenure.
>>>>
>>Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
>>
> You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
> bk
And just how many times in Texas has that happened?
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:04:41
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:46 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com >
wrote:
>
>"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
>news:58j7j251riudh1gj7tgvcs3t6h908p8q0d@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Bobby Knight wrote:
>>>>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
>>>>> executions during his tenure.
>>>>>
>>>Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
>>>
>> You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
>> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
>> bk
>
>And just how many times in Texas has that happened?
>
Since 1973, 123 people in 25 states have been released from death row
with evidence of their innocence. Once someone has been executed
defense attorneys move on to other cases where clients' lives can
still be saved. Even if it happened once, that's too many.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:09:11
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
news:fql7j2dqoplqsar61jslc2ttt5hqm1p2hh@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:46 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
>>news:58j7j251riudh1gj7tgvcs3t6h908p8q0d@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bobby Knight wrote:
>>>>>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
>>>>>> executions during his tenure.
>>>>>>
>>>>Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
>>>>
>>> You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
>>> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
>>> bk
>>
>>And just how many times in Texas has that happened?
>>
> Since 1973, 123 people in 25 states have been released from death row
> with evidence of their innocence. Once someone has been executed
> defense attorneys move on to other cases where clients' lives can
> still be saved. Even if it happened once, that's too many.
That's not what I asked. How many wrongful executions have there been?
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:09:37
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com > wrote in message
news:4pi3moFiim4hU1@individual.net...
>
> "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
> news:fql7j2dqoplqsar61jslc2ttt5hqm1p2hh@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:46 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
>>>news:58j7j251riudh1gj7tgvcs3t6h908p8q0d@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bobby Knight wrote:
>>>>>>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> executions during his tenure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
>>>>>
>>>> You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
>>>> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
>>>> bk
>>>
>>>And just how many times in Texas has that happened?
>>>
>> Since 1973, 123 people in 25 states have been released from death row
>> with evidence of their innocence. Once someone has been executed
>> defense attorneys move on to other cases where clients' lives can
>> still be saved. Even if it happened once, that's too many.
>
> That's not what I asked. How many wrongful executions have there been?
How many would it take for it to affect you? Someone wrote in this same
thread ... 600K or 60K deaths in Iraq ... it's just a number. Bottom line
"we killed some innocent defendants" ... does the number matter?
How many would it take to matter to you?
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 17:13:56
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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"AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote in message
news:JGSYg.4727$v43.4517@fed1read02...
>
> "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:4pi3moFiim4hU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
>> news:fql7j2dqoplqsar61jslc2ttt5hqm1p2hh@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:46 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:58j7j251riudh1gj7tgvcs3t6h908p8q0d@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:12:07 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:1160701207.530701.91410@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bobby Knight wrote:
>>>>>>>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> executions during his tenure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Good for Texas!!!! Now if they can only make it national.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You can have the position of telling the family of those who were
>>>>> found innocent after being put to death that you're sooooo sorry.
>>>>> bk
>>>>
>>>>And just how many times in Texas has that happened?
>>>>
>>> Since 1973, 123 people in 25 states have been released from death row
>>> with evidence of their innocence. Once someone has been executed
>>> defense attorneys move on to other cases where clients' lives can
>>> still be saved. Even if it happened once, that's too many.
>>
>> That's not what I asked. How many wrongful executions have there been?
>
> How many would it take for it to affect you? Someone wrote in this same
> thread ... 600K or 60K deaths in Iraq ... it's just a number. Bottom line
> "we killed some innocent defendants" ... does the number matter?
>
> How many would it take to matter to you?
>
Once. But I'm still looking for that one. With forensics the way it is
nowadays I would guess this is very rare.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 23:39:45
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:13:56 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com >
wrote:
>Once. But I'm still looking for that one. With forensics the way it is
>nowadays I would guess this is very rare.
With forensics the way it is nowadays, we are finding out that
previous trial methods had mistakes. But not everything can be
forensically proven - chances are that the rest (the majority) are no
more accurate than they ever were.
That said - I don't find that the death penalty is significantly more
onerous than life imprisonment (except when done for political means).
Patrick Henry had it right. And there will be fewer people out
there working to prove my innocence if I'm "only" losing my freedom.
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:22:33
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:09:11 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmiikkew@aol.com >
wrote:
>
>"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
>>>And just how many times in Texas has that happened?
>>>
>> Since 1973, 123 people in 25 states have been released from death row
>> with evidence of their innocence. Once someone has been executed
>> defense attorneys move on to other cases where clients' lives can
>> still be saved.
>
>That's not what I asked. How many wrongful executions have there been?
>
Try reading my last sentence above.
Your next statement will probably be that I can't prove that this
has happened. So, I'll ask you in advance to prove that it hasn't.
IMO the possibility of it happening is enough of a reason to ditch the
death penalty.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 20:34:54
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Hey LLLLLarrrry...some reading material about your hero
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On 12 Oct 2006 18:00:07 -0700, "Tex" <ktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>Bobby Knight wrote:
>> His business dealings left a lot to be desired....and thought about.
>> Plus, being known as "Governor death" because of the record number of
>> executions during his tenure.
>>
>>
>> http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_4.htm
>>
>> http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/bush_background_5.htm
>
>Hey "normal brained"...this group is about GOLF. Take your rants
>elsewhere.
>
>Tex
You haven't posted a word about golf during this whole GB thread
ideologue! Take your single-mindedness elsewhere.
P.S. You and LLLLarrry can take turns kissing Bush's ass, but you
should know better because you should know his double dealings here in
Texas....
:-)
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