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Date: 30 Nov 2006 07:20:18
From: Herbert
Subject: Have you ever been golfed out?
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I've not played but 6 times a year for the past few years. Previously I've
played well over 100 times a year. But the thing is I don't miss it, and I
don't know why. Sure the kids are growing up and take up much more of my
time these days, and I'm loving all the time I spend with them before they
grow up and ignore me. But the regular Wed/Fri/Sat games used to be BIG to
me. Really BIG.
I still love the game of golf, although now I just prefer to think about
golf now rather than play. At the age of 47 I honestly feel my best rounds
are behind me and I've not much room to improve as a golfer. Latest index
1.9, but that was 2002. No scores posted since then. Once a month I hit
the range (or indoor dome) to hit balls but the fact is I'm no longer a
golfer.
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 08:29:02
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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John van der Pflum wrote:
>
> That range I go to is a "water range" where you actually hit balls
> into a lake. They have a number of wooden platforms in the lake and
> the sound of the ball hitting the platforms echoes over the range.
> There's even an old boat sitting in the lake that is fund to hit balls
> into.
We have one of those here in Washington. The balls float....right?
Trouble is....the balls are about 80% of the distance compared to
normal range balls.
I like doing what Howard suggests. Looking for the 150 flag/area and
nailing it with the right club for that day. This time of year, a 5
iron. On the water range, it would be a 7 wood.
-Greg
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 11:13:38
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On 5 Dec 2006 08:29:02 -0800, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
>We have one of those here in Washington. The balls float....right?
>Trouble is....the balls are about 80% of the distance compared to
>normal range balls.
>
>I like doing what Howard suggests. Looking for the 150 flag/area and
>nailing it with the right club for that day. This time of year, a 5
>iron. On the water range, it would be a 7 wood.
What I am trying to do now is to take a few shots with my 5I at the
100 yard target as well. All the best players have this feel - which
makes them tremendously better around the green.
In Colorado this time of year, a normal 5I will go a long way. The
ground is hard and the ball will roll farther. We're also a mile
high, so it goes farther in the air, but that's the case in the summer
too.
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 11:45:29
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On 5 Dec 2006 08:29:02 -0800, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
>
>John van der Pflum wrote:
>
>>
>> That range I go to is a "water range" where you actually hit balls
>> into a lake. They have a number of wooden platforms in the lake and
>> the sound of the ball hitting the platforms echoes over the range.
>> There's even an old boat sitting in the lake that is fund to hit balls
>> into.
>
>We have one of those here in Washington. The balls float....right?
>Trouble is....the balls are about 80% of the distance compared to
>normal range balls.
>
>I like doing what Howard suggests. Looking for the 150 flag/area and
>nailing it with the right club for that day. This time of year, a 5
>iron. On the water range, it would be a 7 wood.
>
>-Greg
I haven't found a huge difference in the distances. My money distance
is a 105 yard, half pitching wedge with a Pro V1. At the water range,
the same shot goes about 95-100. You definitely lose some distance,
of course, but at my range it's not in the 20% category.
I've found it has made me more focused on hitting the target than at a
normal grass range.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 22:51:26
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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The_Professor wrote:
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> I don't see how I could get golfed out. I play when I feel like it. I
> am "ranged out" though. A total waste of time and money and something
> that has never helped my game.
Agree about the range. Unless there is something specific to practice
or I'm limited in time, daily range work is an exercise in futility.
-Greg
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 12:50:23
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On 4 Dec 2006 22:51:26 -0800, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
>> I don't see how I could get golfed out. I play when I feel like it. I
>> am "ranged out" though. A total waste of time and money and something
>> that has never helped my game.
>
>Agree about the range. Unless there is something specific to practice
>or I'm limited in time, daily range work is an exercise in futility.
Of course one doesn't need to spend all his range time hitting full
swing shots. Aiming for some near-by targets might be just the
ticket for game improvement - and it's more fun.
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 10:22:44
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:50:23 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:
>On 4 Dec 2006 22:51:26 -0800, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> I don't see how I could get golfed out. I play when I feel like it. I
>>> am "ranged out" though. A total waste of time and money and something
>>> that has never helped my game.
>>
>>Agree about the range. Unless there is something specific to practice
>>or I'm limited in time, daily range work is an exercise in futility.
>
>Of course one doesn't need to spend all his range time hitting full
>swing shots. Aiming for some near-by targets might be just the
>ticket for game improvement - and it's more fun.
That range I go to is a "water range" where you actually hit balls
into a lake. They have a number of wooden platforms in the lake and
the sound of the ball hitting the platforms echoes over the range.
There's even an old boat sitting in the lake that is fund to hit balls
into.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 22:48:22
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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Herbert wrote:
> "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
> news:fof8n2ti3pf1t3heuotv7pep1vtu5qe9pl@4ax.com...
>
> > The last thing on my mind is swing mechanics. Even when I was a
> > decent, single-digit, player it never was something that interested
> > me.
>
> Yes, some people eat it up but it doesn't do much for me. I've always had
> natural eye/hand abilities with stick and ball sports so making good contact
> is rarely a consideration. I honestly think imagination and "seeing" where
> you want the ball to go means more than where you pronate something.
I've learned, the hard and expensive way, that swing mechanics are
over-rated, especially if it creates too many swing thoughts. I can
only deal with two which seem to be working well for me. Bring the
club back on plane (thanks Tiger) and straighten the right arm on the
downswing (TGM). Basically, one thought for the backswing, one thought
for the downswing.
Perhaps a difference between you and me, Herbert, is that I'm not a
natural athlete in anything. Also, I learned golf as an adult, which
meant I tried to overpower the ball via a nasty OTT swing that still
haunts me from time to time. So...I had to intellectually understand
the correct swing and then unlearn the wrong one. However, lessons is
the key to this....not repeating futility at the driving range.
-Greg
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 08:53:03
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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X-No-Archive: yes
I don't see how I could get golfed out. I play when I feel like it. I
am "ranged out" though. A total waste of time and money and something
that has never helped my game.
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 13:52:51
From: David
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:20:18 GMT, "Herbert"
<humphrey_herbert@yahoo.com > wrote:
>I've not played but 6 times a year for the past few years. Previously I've
>played well over 100 times a year. But the thing is I don't miss it, and I
>don't know why. Sure the kids are growing up and take up much more of my
>time these days, and I'm loving all the time I spend with them before they
>grow up and ignore me. But the regular Wed/Fri/Sat games used to be BIG to
>me. Really BIG.
Were the Wed/fri/sat games with friends, or just a group of golfers
competing? While I love the competition, what really makes golf fun
is the group of friends that I have. When we play together--usually
for pizza and beer--we have a kick-ass time on the golf course.
While we do take the beer and pizza seriously, we play a round where
everyone encourages each other. We are usually laughing so hard that
our sides ache after the round. FWIW, everyone in the group has
better than a 7 HI, so, there is some excellent goilf being played, as
well. I simply licked out finding a great group of people to play golf
with.
>I still love the game of golf, although now I just prefer to think about
>golf now rather than play. At the age of 47 I honestly feel my best rounds
>are behind me and I've not much room to improve as a golfer. Latest index
>1.9, but that was 2002. No scores posted since then. Once a month I hit
>the range (or indoor dome) to hit balls but the fact is I'm no longer a
>golfer.
I tend to not think of golf in terms of rounds, but rather in terms
of moments. I have enjoyed some velous rounds of golf where
everything clicked. More times than not, however, what I remember the
most are the special moments. The times that I pulled off shots that
people thought were impossible. As well, I remember the great times I
had with the people who make golf really enjoyable for me.
David
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 15:54:34
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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"David" <dgold1958@yahoo.de > wrote in message
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> Were the Wed/fri/sat games with friends, or just a group of golfers
> competing? While I love the competition, what really makes golf fun
> is the group of friends that I have. When we play together--usually
> for pizza and beer--we have a kick-ass time on the golf course.
Yes mostly friends, and the men's competitions at the club on the weekends.
Always a fun time with beers and such.
> While we do take the beer and pizza seriously, we play a round where
> everyone encourages each other. We are usually laughing so hard that
> our sides ache after the round. FWIW, everyone in the group has
> better than a 7 HI, so, there is some excellent goilf being played, as
> well. I simply licked out finding a great group of people to play golf
> with.
Much the same with me, well, except for the encouragement! There's mostly
needling but it's all done with the goal of a smile or chuckle rather than
trying to hurt someone's game. At the end of each round we were equally
likely to complement the best needles and the best shots.
>
>
> I tend to not think of golf in terms of rounds, but rather in terms
> of moments. I have enjoyed some velous rounds of golf where
> everything clicked. More times than not, however, what I remember the
> most are the special moments. The times that I pulled off shots that
> people thought were impossible. As well, I remember the great times I
> had with the people who make golf really enjoyable for me.
My thoughts and experiences exactly. We had one fellow in the group, good
golfer and nice man but he always complained about the greens or the rough
or the hotdogs or something, and the rest of us would just shrug and
exchange the glance knowing that he just didn't "get it", that is, he did
not get what this game is all about.
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Date: 05 Dec 2006 12:57:46
From: David
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:54:34 GMT, "Herbert"
<humphrey_herbert@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>"David" <dgold1958@yahoo.de> wrote in message
>news:2us2n29h3rhnqdiu8u42956e5kei3t8l2o@4ax.com...
>> Were the Wed/fri/sat games with friends, or just a group of golfers
>> competing? While I love the competition, what really makes golf fun
>> is the group of friends that I have. When we play together--usually
>> for pizza and beer--we have a kick-ass time on the golf course.
>
>Yes mostly friends, and the men's competitions at the club on the weekends.
>Always a fun time with beers and such.
The friendships I am referring to developed in to true, meaningful
ones. Our activities together extended beyond the golf
course--billiard nights, bar-hopping, huge barbecues, etc.... It was
an amazing stroke of luck to meet these guys, since my past experience
has been the fun foursomes on the weekends which remained just that.
>> While we do take the beer and pizza seriously, we play a round where
>> everyone encourages each other. We are usually laughing so hard that
>> our sides ache after the round. FWIW, everyone in the group has
>> better than a 7 HI, so, there is some excellent goilf being played, as
>> well. I simply licked out finding a great group of people to play golf
>> with.
>
>Much the same with me, well, except for the encouragement! There's mostly
>needling but it's all done with the goal of a smile or chuckle rather than
>trying to hurt someone's game. At the end of each round we were equally
>likely to complement the best needles and the best shots.
Trust me, there was a lot of needling going on, as well :-) It was
all in good fun, though, and it never ended with someone feeling that
he had been personally attacked. You could not get away with missing a
two foot putt, or badly missing a tee shot and not expect an
appropriate response ;-) You mostly had to worry about that coming
from your teammate. In the end, though, we all wanted to see the best
golf played that was possible from everyone in the group. Someone on
his way to shooting a personal best could expect encouragement from
all--even if it means that the beer and pizza are being lost :-)
>> I tend to not think of golf in terms of rounds, but rather in terms
>> of moments. I have enjoyed some velous rounds of golf where
>> everything clicked. More times than not, however, what I remember the
>> most are the special moments. The times that I pulled off shots that
>> people thought were impossible. As well, I remember the great times I
>> had with the people who make golf really enjoyable for me.
>
>My thoughts and experiences exactly. We had one fellow in the group, good
>golfer and nice man but he always complained about the greens or the rough
>or the hotdogs or something, and the rest of us would just shrug and
>exchange the glance knowing that he just didn't "get it", that is, he did
>not get what this game is all about.
Well, then you are hereby prohibited from giving up on golf. If you
feel that you are golfed out, then take a one year break from the
game. When you come back to it, you will appreciate it even more. I
have taken breaks from the game that were longer than a year, when I
felt the same burn-out. One time, my game went so far south that I
absolutely did not touch a club for the better part of two years.
The last time that my swing went way south, I decided to try and
work through it, because the guys that I had met were making the golf
just as enjoyable for me as when I was stroking the ball and knocking
down flagsticks. That, to me, says more for the group that I palyed
with than anything. If they had not made it so much fun to play, I
would have definitely gone in to exile again.
David
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 14:02:07
From: David
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:52:51 +0100, David <dgold1958@yahoo.de > wrote:
<snipped >
I just wanted to add that I started enjoying the game more when I
stopped worrying about how slow the players in front of me are--I am
generally a fast player. I enjoy the surroundings when I am playing a
fine golf course. Teeing up the ball on the first tee, soaking up the
sunshine, breathing in the smells of freshly cut grass--I find all of
it to be an incredible experience.
>David
>
>
>
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 06:40:33
From: S McFarlane
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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"David" <dgold1958@yahoo.de > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:52:51 +0100, David <dgold1958@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
> <snipped>
>
> I just wanted to add that I started enjoying the game more when I
> stopped worrying about how slow the players in front of me are--I am
> generally a fast player. I enjoy the surroundings when I am playing a
> fine golf course. Teeing up the ball on the first tee, soaking up the
> sunshine, breathing in the smells of freshly cut grass--I find all of
> it to be an incredible experience.
>
>
>>David
Amen to that. Are you in Germany? Wie steht es bei _den_ Spiel drueben?
Scott
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Date: 03 Dec 2006 10:18:36
From: David
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 06:40:33 GMT, "S McFarlane" <spam@nothanks.com >
wrote:
>
>"David" <dgold1958@yahoo.de> wrote in message
>news:8ut2n2tsu6sjst9vdh7gfig6fr4pdl73ra@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:52:51 +0100, David <dgold1958@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>
>> <snipped>
>>
>> I just wanted to add that I started enjoying the game more when I
>> stopped worrying about how slow the players in front of me are--I am
>> generally a fast player. I enjoy the surroundings when I am playing a
>> fine golf course. Teeing up the ball on the first tee, soaking up the
>> sunshine, breathing in the smells of freshly cut grass--I find all of
>> it to be an incredible experience.
>>
>>
>>>David
>
>Amen to that. Are you in Germany? Wie steht es bei _den_ Spiel drueben?
Yes. I am american, but I have been living in Germany for around 16
years total. The golf in Germany has improved tremendously in the
last 20 years. There are now more than 650 golf courses and some of
them are very fine. My favorite golf course in europe, though, is in
Plombsheim--just south of Strassbourg, France. An incredible golf
course that no one should miss out on when visiting europe.
>Scott
David
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:50:00
From:
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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Herbert wrote:
> I've not played but 6 times a year for the past few years. Previously I've
> played well over 100 times a year. But the thing is I don't miss it, and I
> don't know why. Sure the kids are growing up and take up much more of my
> time these days, and I'm loving all the time I spend with them before they
> grow up and ignore me. But the regular Wed/Fri/Sat games used to be BIG to
> me. Really BIG.
>
> I still love the game of golf, although now I just prefer to think about
> golf now rather than play. At the age of 47 I honestly feel my best rounds
> are behind me and I've not much room to improve as a golfer. Latest index
> 1.9, but that was 2002. No scores posted since then. Once a month I hit
> the range (or indoor dome) to hit balls but the fact is I'm no longer a
> golfer.
Really golf is just a game. If you get fed up with the cleaning of the
spikes and the slow foursomes, then you can always apply for a
Moderator here!
Seriously if you want to spur your interest a little, you might try to
organize your range sessions into trying to find a few more keys to fly
that ball a tad better even though you are extremely proficient.
Writing a little blurb on your session can spur thoughts before the
next session, or you can write a few 'what ifs' for something to try
into the next session. Think of all the players over 47 that are just
golf appereciators, not hemen, that have reduced that index of yours by
1.9.
Then again, golf is just a game...you might have things going on that
are more interesting?
CJ
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 15:43:59
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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<curtjester1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1164927000.101936.83920@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
>
> Then again, golf is just a game...you might have things going on that
> are more interesting?
I think you are correct. My kids are older now and into their own sports
which takes up alot of my time.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 22:33:37
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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To be healthy, we need to stay active physically, mentally, and
socially. Golf is a good tool for this (especially for those
enjoying ourselves playing)
If you have hobbies which will keep you active this way after you
retire - great. If you have replaced your golf with TV watching,
then I suggest you find more active interests.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 15:42:17
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:g2num2lkiimv898r82m0v4au7vv6ufoeum@4ax.com...
> To be healthy, we need to stay active physically, mentally, and
> socially. Golf is a good tool for this (especially for those
> enjoying ourselves playing)
>
> If you have hobbies which will keep you active this way after you
> retire - great. If you have replaced your golf with TV watching,
> then I suggest you find more active interests.
I still run, and I've played hockey every winter since I was about 4. I
spend alot of time coaching my kids in football and hockey. I would be an
absentee father if I still golfed 100+ times a year, now that I think about
it.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 22:47:07
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:42:17 GMT, "Herbert"
<humphrey_herbert@yahoo.com > wrote:
>> If you have hobbies which will keep you active this way after you
>> retire - great. If you have replaced your golf with TV watching,
>> then I suggest you find more active interests.
>
>I still run, and I've played hockey every winter since I was about 4. I
>spend alot of time coaching my kids in football and hockey. I would be an
>absentee father if I still golfed 100+ times a year, now that I think about
>it.
I didn't start playing until after I acquired a golfing son-in-law.
Before then my family's priorities were very different.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 18:40:54
From: Rob Davis
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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Herbert wrote:
> I still love the game of golf, although now I just prefer to think about
> golf now rather than play. At the age of 47 I honestly feel my best rounds
> are behind me and I've not much room to improve as a golfer. Latest index
> 1.9, but that was 2002. No scores posted since then. Once a month I hit
> the range (or indoor dome) to hit balls but the fact is I'm no longer a
> golfer.
This sounds to me like your main goal in playing golf was (is?) to get
better. I've only been playing about 6 years (age 53 now), and still
have lots of room for improvement ... but I've thought about this at
times and it seems that if your only goal is to improve (scores or
handicap), then eventually that's going to be not possible any more.
Either you'll max out your skill level (or available time to
practice/play) or age will catch up to you. That doesn't necessarily
mean you stop learning about the game or don't enjoy playing.
So maybe you could re-evaluate why you play and what you enjoy about the
game. The book Extraordinary Golf talks a lot about this ... might be
worth checking out. Also seems to me that some "burn out" periods or
breaks are a fairly common cycle for a lot of folks ... everyone's
different, but I've heard of it quite a few times.
Rob
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 15:34:48
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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"Rob Davis" <davis.rob@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:WAFbh.25301$oP6.21863@trnddc03...
> Herbert wrote:
> > I still love the game of golf, although now I just prefer to think about
> > golf now rather than play. At the age of 47 I honestly feel my best
rounds
> > are behind me and I've not much room to improve as a golfer. Latest
index
> > 1.9, but that was 2002. No scores posted since then. Once a month I
hit
> > the range (or indoor dome) to hit balls but the fact is I'm no longer a
> > golfer.
>
> This sounds to me like your main goal in playing golf was (is?) to get
> better. I've only been playing about 6 years (age 53 now), and still
> have lots of room for improvement ... but I've thought about this at
> times and it seems that if your only goal is to improve (scores or
> handicap), then eventually that's going to be not possible any more.
> Either you'll max out your skill level (or available time to
> practice/play) or age will catch up to you. That doesn't necessarily
> mean you stop learning about the game or don't enjoy playing.
My goal was always to have fun and win the match , rather than shoot a
personal best score or get my index down to "x". You are correct about one
thought, I do feel my abilities have peaked. I would have to practice alot
to improve.
>
> So maybe you could re-evaluate why you play and what you enjoy about the
> game. The book Extraordinary Golf talks a lot about this ... might be
> worth checking out. Also seems to me that some "burn out" periods or
> breaks are a fairly common cycle for a lot of folks ... everyone's
> different, but I've heard of it quite a few times.
I can't say I felt burned out but it's possible. My regular games dried up
and I did not bother finding new ones. Maybe I'll wake up one day and
realize there's more golf to be played. Maybe one of my kids will show some
interest.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:47:05
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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Herbert wrote:
> I've not played but 6 times a year for the past few years. Previously I've
> played well over 100 times a year. But the thing is I don't miss it, and I
> don't know why. Sure the kids are growing up and take up much more of my
> time these days, and I'm loving all the time I spend with them before they
> grow up and ignore me. But the regular Wed/Fri/Sat games used to be BIG to
> me. Really BIG.
>
> I still love the game of golf, although now I just prefer to think about
> golf now rather than play. At the age of 47 I honestly feel my best rounds
> are behind me and I've not much room to improve as a golfer. Latest index
> 1.9, but that was 2002. No scores posted since then. Once a month I hit
> the range (or indoor dome) to hit balls but the fact is I'm no longer a
> golfer.
Grrr....Oh to have your problem. I'm 48 with a 14 hdcp, though I
briefly was single digit 3 years ago.
But like you, my perspective and practice have changed, for the better.
I use to be obsessed, thinking about my swing, buying books and
videos, practicing every day, playing 3-4 times a week in all kinds of
weather. Now I play when the sun shines, with little practice.
Ironically, I have more fun when I play, only because I've lowered my
expectations.
There are worse problems.
Where do you live?
-Greg
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 15:22:05
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote in message
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> But like you, my perspective and practice have changed, for the better.
> I use to be obsessed, thinking about my swing, buying books and
> videos, practicing every day, playing 3-4 times a week in all kinds of
> weather. Now I play when the sun shines, with little practice.
> Ironically, I have more fun when I play, only because I've lowered my
> expectations.
I was never obsessed with the game, I played 100+ times a year because I
had regular games each week with some fun people. That group has dried up
now going in various other directions. I've never even considered reading
a book about swing mechanics, I prefer not to think much about the golf
swing. My expectations each day were simple - hit some nice shots and try
to make the ball fly where I wanted it to.
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> Where do you live?
In Canada.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 09:38:10
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:22:05 GMT, "Herbert"
<humphrey_herbert@yahoo.com > wrote:
>"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1164905225.178541.278000@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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>> But like you, my perspective and practice have changed, for the better.
>> I use to be obsessed, thinking about my swing, buying books and
>> videos, practicing every day, playing 3-4 times a week in all kinds of
>> weather. Now I play when the sun shines, with little practice.
>> Ironically, I have more fun when I play, only because I've lowered my
>> expectations.
>
>I was never obsessed with the game, I played 100+ times a year because I
>had regular games each week with some fun people. That group has dried up
>now going in various other directions. I've never even considered reading
>a book about swing mechanics, I prefer not to think much about the golf
>swing. My expectations each day were simple - hit some nice shots and try
>to make the ball fly where I wanted it to.
>
That's just about my situation. I've threatened to stop playing
several times, but still enjoy my regular group...and that's why I
play. If ( I should say when, we're getting long in the tooth) the
group breaks up I probably will lose interest. It still interests me
to go to RSG weekends if at all possible too, just for the
caaderie.
The last thing on my mind is swing mechanics. Even when I was a
decent, single-digit, player it never was something that interested
me.
___,
\o
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 16:16:28
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
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> The last thing on my mind is swing mechanics. Even when I was a
> decent, single-digit, player it never was something that interested
> me.
What do you suppose degraded your game as you aged? Sight? Flexibility? I
figure as long as I can see well enough to read the terrain while chipping
and putting I can stay single digit.
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 10:33:40
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:16:28 GMT, "Herbert"
<humphrey_herbert@yahoo.com > wrote:
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>"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
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>> The last thing on my mind is swing mechanics. Even when I was a
>> decent, single-digit, player it never was something that interested
>> me.
>
>What do you suppose degraded your game as you aged? Sight? Flexibility? I
>figure as long as I can see well enough to read the terrain while chipping
>and putting I can stay single digit.
>
Back and knee problems are more dibilitating at this point. The only
thing that age has degraded is flexibility. I never had a really
good chipping game either, just depended on GIR to score. With the
loss of distance, that stat has certainly diminished.
___,
\o
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Date: 04 Dec 2006 15:58:38
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
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> The last thing on my mind is swing mechanics. Even when I was a
> decent, single-digit, player it never was something that interested
> me.
Yes, some people eat it up but it doesn't do much for me. I've always had
natural eye/hand abilities with stick and ball sports so making good contact
is rarely a consideration. I honestly think imagination and "seeing" where
you want the ball to go means more than where you pronate something.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:41:33
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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Miss Anne Thrope wrote:
> I became "golfed out" on hole #3 on my first day as a caddy, back in
> 1972.
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> I'm surprised it took 3 holes for me to realize what asswipes golfers
> are. I dropped the guy's bag at the 4th tee, and flipped him the finger
> as I walked off the course.
>
> He threatened me, but even at age 11, I knew a golfer was really no
> physical threat to ANYONE.
>
> I vaguely remember taking a giant piss on the door handle of his Coupe
> Deville too.
>
> Ahh, there's nothing better than childhood memories!
So all the Missy Theatrics stem from that incident?
Face it MAT. You hate golf because it's a hard sport. If you could do
it well, you'd whupped him in his own game a few years later.
-Greg
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:11:54
From: Watson deMeneux
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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Herbert wrote:
> I've not played but 6 times a year for the past few years. Previously I've
> played well over 100 times a year. But the thing is I don't miss it, and I
> don't know why.
I had 4-5 years of 100+ rounds, and enjoyed it a lot. Then, our schedule
changed and we cut way back.
For a couple of years, we'd play only 1ce or 2ce a week. We'd leave
around noon, driving for an hour or so. have a sandwich in the car, find
some small town course, play, and then eat supper at the local
restaurant, and drive back home. It was like a vacation every week, and
I didn't care if I shot 75, 85 or 95. I must say I enjoyed that kind of
golf much more.
When you're at a club, in a league, with a lesson and practice schedule,
golf becomes like work. When it's more casual, it's more fun, even if
your scores don't improve.
--
Watson deMeneux
-Say it out loud next time you're in a restaurant.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:08:14
From: warren montgomery
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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"Herbert" <humphrey_herbert@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> I've not played but 6 times a year for the past few years. Previously
> I've
> played well over 100 times a year. But the thing is I don't miss it, and
> I
> don't know why. Sure the kids are growing up and take up much more of my
> time these days, and I'm loving all the time I spend with them before they
> grow up and ignore me. But the regular Wed/Fri/Sat games used to be BIG
> to
> me. Really BIG.
>
> I still love the game of golf, although now I just prefer to think about
> golf now rather than play. At the age of 47 I honestly feel my best
> rounds
> are behind me and I've not much room to improve as a golfer. Latest
> index
> 1.9, but that was 2002. No scores posted since then. Once a month I hit
> the range (or indoor dome) to hit balls but the fact is I'm no longer a
> golfer.
>
Interests come and go. I was a daily golfer as a kid, played a bit in my
Freshman year in college, and then only once or twice a year (at best) for
the next 15-20 years. I did other things. Didn't really even think about
playing golf. Then my wife took the game up and we both play any time we
can. I am better now than I was as a kid (best index this year was 7.3),
but it's possible that as virtually a scratch golfer you just got bored.
Still, for me it's often more an excuse to be outside in a peaceful and
beautiful place than posting a score that gets me onto the course. That's
why you won't find me on the range or in a dome, swinging with a mouse --
it's just not the same.
--
Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 09:26:07
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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I became "golfed out" on hole #3 on my first day as a caddy, back in
1972.
I'm surprised it took 3 holes for me to realize what asswipes golfers
are. I dropped the guy's bag at the 4th tee, and flipped him the finger
as I walked off the course.
He threatened me, but even at age 11, I knew a golfer was really no
physical threat to ANYONE.
I vaguely remember taking a giant piss on the door handle of his Coupe
Deville too.
Ahh, there's nothing better than childhood memories!
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:55:52
From: WilsonJack
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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>Ahh, there's nothing better than childhood memories!
I'm sure you getting cornholed by your dad rates right up there.
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Date: 30 Nov 2006 06:10:43
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Have you ever been golfed out?
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Herbert wrote:
> I've not played but 6 times a year for the past few years. Previously I've
> played well over 100 times a year. But the thing is I don't miss it, and I
> don't know why.
My experience has been that every 10 years, everything changes.
What I mean by that is if one looks back 10 years from today,
there is precious little that is the same as 10 years ago. Interests,
relationships, and attitudes can and do change alot in 10 years.
Go look at your wedding album and see how many folks you
invited to your wedding that you virtually never see anymore. I
don't play the same courses today that I did 10 years ago. I
don't play the same equipment. I guess it just isn't all that
surprising to me that for alot of folks golf will be one of those
things that follows this rule. Alternately though, it may be
something you "come back to" at some point. I played golf
when I was a teenager with my father. Then I dropped it for the
better part of 15 years before slowly taking it back up.
> Sure the kids are growing up and take up much more of my
> time these days, and I'm loving all the time I spend with them before they
> grow up and ignore me. But the regular Wed/Fri/Sat games used to be BIG to
> me. Really BIG.
>
> I still love the game of golf, although now I just prefer to think about
> golf now rather than play. At the age of 47 I honestly feel my best rounds
> are behind me and I've not much room to improve as a golfer. Latest index
> 1.9, but that was 2002. No scores posted since then. Once a month I hit
> the range (or indoor dome) to hit balls but the fact is I'm no longer a
> golfer.
None of us are. We're people who play golf. You may no longer
play, or play irregularly, but is that really what has defined this
change? Or is this a symptom of a larger change?
My philosopy can be kind of discouraging. I've managed to convert
it
into a positive. I cherish what is good in my life because I don't
really
expect it to last. The really important things in my life get alot of
attention
because I know they will change, and I make sure to make an effort to
ensure that they change for the better. I don't take things for
granted.
In my experience, assuming something won't change is a sure fire
way to lose it completely.
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