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Date: 17 Dec 2006 18:27:37
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Golf and the iliotibial band
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I've just encountered some serious iliotibial band pain (left hip area) on
my downswing - enough to keep me from practicing/playing (chipping and short
pitches are OK). I've recently been doing pump drills that have led me to a
more aggressive turn into the ball. I also used to do iliotibial stretches
as part of my warmpup and have been careless lately about doing those. I
have no idea if either of these are related to my problem.
I had this once before (as a runner) and the solution was to follow the
doctor's advice and stay off it for four weeks, the damn thing would not be
one bit better after that period of time, so he would relent and give me a
cortisone shot. 3 days after that it is fine (for 10 years, anyway). I'm
guessing I'll be going through the same scenario.
Anybody else out there experience hip are iliotibial band pain as a golf
swing driven overuse injury?
Thanks.
dave
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 09:12:25
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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I've experienced iliotibial band injury before.
I just didn't whine about it.
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 23:14:19
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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Dave Lee wrote:
> >
> > I get this quite a bit. It's one of the reasons I quit practicing full
> shots. It
> > doesn't help at all to play with the pain because it makes you stand on
> your
> > right leg and not swing through the ball...at least for a right handed
> swinger
> > like me. Walking rather than riding has also really helped me with this.
> Keeps
> > the relevant parts loose I guess.
> >
> >
>
> I'm a practice hog. I suppose i'll get really good at my short game if this
> is how it turns out.
>
> dave
I haven't experienced your injury but I recall exchanging e-mails over
another shared injury a few years ago.....elbow I think? Anyway, I've
been golfing pain free ever since I quit practicing so much, especially
forgoing hitting off mats.
FWIW.
-Greg
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 22:34:40
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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On Dec 17, 12:27 pm, "Dave Lee" <DaveLe...@ix.netcom.RemovE.com >
wrote:
> I've just encountered some serious iliotibial band pain (left hip area) on
> my downswing - enough to keep me from practicing/playing (chipping and short
> pitches are OK). I've recently been doing pump drills that have led me to a
> more aggressive turn into the ball. I also used to do iliotibial stretches
> as part of my warmpup and have been careless lately about doing those. I
> have no idea if either of these are related to my problem.
>
Sorry to hear about the injury, Dave. I'm about as qualified to give
medical advice as I am to give golf advice. Backing off until the pain
goes away is always a good idea, though.
I typically have a lot of aches and pains to the back, hips, legs,
knees, ankles, and whatever after playing or practicing hard,
so I can empathize.
Lately, I've been working on increasing my hip slide so that my left
hip
socket actually slides out a little beyond my left foot before turning
my hips
hard (while keeping my head behind the ball). This has improved
several things, including lag and impact position, but one thing I
really
noticed was that I felt better supported and balanced on my left foot,
and it was easier to turn my hips. I also noticed that I didn't have
pain after playing or practicing doing this.
Not that this has anything to do with your swing or injury situationj.
Just rambling on about my own experiences.
Hope you feel better soon.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 22:27:54
From: David Geesaman
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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Birdie Bill wrote:
>
> Lately, I've been working on increasing my hip slide so that my left
> hip
> socket actually slides out a little beyond my left foot before turning
> my hips
> hard (while keeping my head behind the ball). This has improved
> several things, including lag and impact position, but one thing I
> really
> noticed was that I felt better supported and balanced on my left foot,
> and it was easier to turn my hips. I also noticed that I didn't have
> pain after playing or practicing doing this.
But this does bring me to an idea that seems relevant to both
situations. I've resurrected an old warmup exercise that was taught to
me in high school track, and it's helped this particular range of motion
immensely. You stand facing a wall and put your hands on it for
balance. Then swing one leg back and forth across your body, slowly
working towards more relaxed and larger range of motion. It helps if
you're using a combination of shoe/floor that has good grip.
This may be too stressful for someone with ITP tendonitis, but it might
be a good preventive exercise.
Dave
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 12:19:48
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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"David Geesaman" <dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:em7m7o01tm0@news2.newsguy.com...
> Birdie Bill wrote:
> >
> > Lately, I've been working on increasing my hip slide so that my left
> > hip
> > socket actually slides out a little beyond my left foot before turning
> > my hips
> > hard (while keeping my head behind the ball). This has improved
> > several things, including lag and impact position, but one thing I
> > really
> > noticed was that I felt better supported and balanced on my left foot,
> > and it was easier to turn my hips. I also noticed that I didn't have
> > pain after playing or practicing doing this.
>
> But this does bring me to an idea that seems relevant to both
> situations. I've resurrected an old warmup exercise that was taught to
> me in high school track, and it's helped this particular range of motion
> immensely. You stand facing a wall and put your hands on it for
> balance. Then swing one leg back and forth across your body, slowly
> working towards more relaxed and larger range of motion. It helps if
> you're using a combination of shoe/floor that has good grip.
>
> This may be too stressful for someone with ITP tendonitis, but it might
> be a good preventive exercise.
>
> Dave
This is pretty similar to the itb stretch that I had mostly stopped using.
Stand with a wall directly to your right about 3'. Put your left foot on the
floor to the right and in front of your right foot, put your right hand onto
the wall for balance, and basically try to touch the wall with your right
hip without moving your feet.. Reverse to stretch the other side.
I'm encouraged about my current injury in that I can already do this stretch
mostly without pain. Maybe this round will go better than the last time I
encountered this injury.
dave
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 17:49:47
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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Dave Lee wrote:
> "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1166380997.652806.5780@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Dave Lee wrote:
> > >snip
> >
> > I used to get that as a runner when training for athons, which I
> > don't do anymore. My ITB felt like a piece of hard plastic. I don't
> > think there's any magic cure for it. You just have to rest it. I run
> > much shorter distances now and my ITB doesn't bother me at all. But if
> > I were to get back into the high mileage, I'm sure I'd have the same
> > problem. I know this isn't very helpful. but it's all I know.
> >
>
> Was your pain in the knee or hip area?
>
> Also, how long a rest did it take to make a difference in your case?
>
> Thanks.
>
> dave
It was above the knee on the outside of my thigh. It's hard to say how
long a rest it took. I trained for and ran a athon, then pretty much
stopped running for a while afterward. I would think that if you rest
if for two weeks and do the stretching exercises you've been doing, it
will feel a lot better.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 02:03:09
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166406587.230926.94530@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Dave Lee wrote:
> > "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1166380997.652806.5780@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Dave Lee wrote:
> > > >snip
> > >
> > > I used to get that as a runner when training for athons, which I
> > > don't do anymore. My ITB felt like a piece of hard plastic. I don't
> > > think there's any magic cure for it. You just have to rest it. I run
> > > much shorter distances now and my ITB doesn't bother me at all. But if
> > > I were to get back into the high mileage, I'm sure I'd have the same
> > > problem. I know this isn't very helpful. but it's all I know.
> > >
> >
> > Was your pain in the knee or hip area?
> >
> > Also, how long a rest did it take to make a difference in your case?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > dave
>
> It was above the knee on the outside of my thigh. It's hard to say how
> long a rest it took. I trained for and ran a athon, then pretty much
> stopped running for a while afterward. I would think that if you rest
> if for two weeks and do the stretching exercises you've been doing, it
> will feel a lot better.
>
Thanks, John. FWIW, the last time I had this (running driven problem) it was
in the upper end of the ITB (hip - same this time). I took four weeks off
and it was basically unchanged after that period of rest. But we'll see what
happens this time.
dave
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 22:55:56
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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Dave Lee wrote:
> I've just encountered some serious iliotibial band pain (left hip area) on
> my downswing - enough to keep me from practicing/playing (chipping and short
> pitches are OK). I've recently been doing pump drills that have led me to a
> more aggressive turn into the ball. I also used to do iliotibial stretches
> as part of my warmpup and have been careless lately about doing those. I
> have no idea if either of these are related to my problem.
>
> I had this once before (as a runner) and the solution was to follow the
> doctor's advice and stay off it for four weeks, the damn thing would not be
> one bit better after that period of time, so he would relent and give me a
> cortisone shot. 3 days after that it is fine (for 10 years, anyway). I'm
> guessing I'll be going through the same scenario.
>
> Anybody else out there experience hip are iliotibial band pain as a golf
> swing driven overuse injury?
>
>
I get this quite a bit. It's one of the reasons I quit practicing full shots. It
doesn't help at all to play with the pain because it makes you stand on your
right leg and not swing through the ball...at least for a right handed swinger
like me. Walking rather than riding has also really helped me with this. Keeps
the relevant parts loose I guess.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 02:04:51
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote in message
news:4585C8BE.80D01D0F@att.net...
>
>
> Dave Lee wrote:
>
> > I've just encountered some serious iliotibial band pain (left hip area)
on
> > my downswing - enough to keep me from practicing/playing (chipping and
short
> > pitches are OK). I've recently been doing pump drills that have led me
to a
> > more aggressive turn into the ball. I also used to do iliotibial
stretches
> > as part of my warmpup and have been careless lately about doing those. I
> > have no idea if either of these are related to my problem.
> >
> > I had this once before (as a runner) and the solution was to follow the
> > doctor's advice and stay off it for four weeks, the damn thing would not
be
> > one bit better after that period of time, so he would relent and give me
a
> > cortisone shot. 3 days after that it is fine (for 10 years, anyway). I'm
> > guessing I'll be going through the same scenario.
> >
> > Anybody else out there experience hip are iliotibial band pain as a golf
> > swing driven overuse injury?
> >
> >
>
> I get this quite a bit. It's one of the reasons I quit practicing full
shots. It
> doesn't help at all to play with the pain because it makes you stand on
your
> right leg and not swing through the ball...at least for a right handed
swinger
> like me. Walking rather than riding has also really helped me with this.
Keeps
> the relevant parts loose I guess.
>
>
I'm a practice hog. I suppose i'll get really good at my short game if this
is how it turns out.
dave
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 10:43:17
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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Dave Lee wrote:
> I've just encountered some serious iliotibial band pain (left hip area) on
> my downswing - enough to keep me from practicing/playing (chipping and short
> pitches are OK). I've recently been doing pump drills that have led me to a
> more aggressive turn into the ball. I also used to do iliotibial stretches
> as part of my warmpup and have been careless lately about doing those. I
> have no idea if either of these are related to my problem.
>
> I had this once before (as a runner) and the solution was to follow the
> doctor's advice and stay off it for four weeks, the damn thing would not be
> one bit better after that period of time, so he would relent and give me a
> cortisone shot. 3 days after that it is fine (for 10 years, anyway). I'm
> guessing I'll be going through the same scenario.
>
> Anybody else out there experience hip are iliotibial band pain as a golf
> swing driven overuse injury?
>
> Thanks.
>
> dave
I used to get that as a runner when training for athons, which I
don't do anymore. My ITB felt like a piece of hard plastic. I don't
think there's any magic cure for it. You just have to rest it. I run
much shorter distances now and my ITB doesn't bother me at all. But if
I were to get back into the high mileage, I'm sure I'd have the same
problem. I know this isn't very helpful. but it's all I know.
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 18:51:30
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Golf and the iliotibial band
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"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166380997.652806.5780@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
> Dave Lee wrote:
> >snip
>
> I used to get that as a runner when training for athons, which I
> don't do anymore. My ITB felt like a piece of hard plastic. I don't
> think there's any magic cure for it. You just have to rest it. I run
> much shorter distances now and my ITB doesn't bother me at all. But if
> I were to get back into the high mileage, I'm sure I'd have the same
> problem. I know this isn't very helpful. but it's all I know.
>
Was your pain in the knee or hip area?
Also, how long a rest did it take to make a difference in your case?
Thanks.
dave
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