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Date: 16 Oct 2006 19:57:01
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Follow up to my car accident
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I wrote back in July that my car was rear-ended by a drunk driver (Police
said more than drunk) I was having back pains and neck pains soon afterward.
I went to the Dr and got X-Rays and they said sprains and a slipped disk and
he prescribed physical therapy. I only revealed to a couple of RSG'ers
during a recent outing that within a month my heart started having
palpitations, arithmias and sometimes a quick rythym of 160bpm (ER visit
with that one) along with this came headaches and dizziness. After an EKG,
MRI and a 24hr carry around monitor all the Dr's could come up with was
something electrical was causing the issue (nothing mechanical) the next
week I mentioned it to a classmate that happens to be an insurance
underwritter he said that if my heart keeps doing that they often kill a
nerve in the neck/upper-back in order to get the heart to beat at one pace
from then on out. A nerve eh.....that got me thinking.....
I asked my Dr. if a pinched nerve or slipped disk could cause my heart to do
strange things....."Doubt it" was the answer. But - My heart issue has
stablelized and only happens when I over exert myself so today I finally
went to a chiropractor. On his list of things going on along with back pain,
neck pain, dizziness was......wait for it.....Heart Palpitations. I spoke
to him about this and he is very interested in looking into this a little
more, seems both he and his coworker went to a weeklong seminar on what
spinal issues can do to a persons nervous system, effecting lungs, brain and
heart. after a series of tests it shows I favor my left side when sitting
or standing, and am 40 pounds weaker with my right side (squeeeze test), and
I cannot handle point presure on my right side at all. He's going to review
the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 10:52:14
From:
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Carbon wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:34:39 +0000, Plat wrote:
<snip >
> Very good post.
Seconded.
Excellent, sober advice universally appreciated: can this really be RSG?
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 02:00:50
From:
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
> I wrote back in July that my car was rear-ended by a drunk driver (Police
> said more than drunk) I was having back pains and neck pains soon afterward.
> I went to the Dr and got X-Rays and they said sprains and a slipped disk and
> he prescribed physical therapy. I only revealed to a couple of RSG'ers
> during a recent outing that within a month my heart started having
> palpitations, arithmias and sometimes a quick rythym of 160bpm (ER visit
> with that one) along with this came headaches and dizziness. After an EKG,
> MRI and a 24hr carry around monitor all the Dr's could come up with was
> something electrical was causing the issue (nothing mechanical) the next
> week I mentioned it to a classmate that happens to be an insurance
> underwritter he said that if my heart keeps doing that they often kill a
> nerve in the neck/upper-back in order to get the heart to beat at one pace
> from then on out. A nerve eh.....that got me thinking.....
>
> I asked my Dr. if a pinched nerve or slipped disk could cause my heart to do
> strange things....."Doubt it" was the answer. But - My heart issue has
> stablelized and only happens when I over exert myself so today I finally
> went to a chiropractor. On his list of things going on along with back pain,
> neck pain, dizziness was......wait for it.....Heart Palpitations. I spoke
> to him about this and he is very interested in looking into this a little
> more, seems both he and his coworker went to a weeklong seminar on what
> spinal issues can do to a persons nervous system, effecting lungs, brain and
> heart. after a series of tests it shows I favor my left side when sitting
> or standing, and am 40 pounds weaker with my right side (squeeeze test), and
> I cannot handle point presure on my right side at all. He's going to review
> the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
Chiropractor will make you feel treated, with plausible diagnosis and
manipulations; neurologist, OTOH, will cure you.
http://skepdic.com/chiro.html
Good luck in your recovery..
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 20:19:15
From: Tighthead
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
> I wrote back in July that my car was rear-ended by a drunk driver (Police
> said more than drunk) I was having back pains and neck pains soon afterward.
> I went to the Dr and got X-Rays and they said sprains and a slipped disk and
> he prescribed physical therapy. I only revealed to a couple of RSG'ers
> during a recent outing that within a month my heart started having
> palpitations, arithmias and sometimes a quick rythym of 160bpm (ER visit
> with that one) along with this came headaches and dizziness. After an EKG,
> MRI and a 24hr carry around monitor all the Dr's could come up with was
> something electrical was causing the issue (nothing mechanical) the next
> week I mentioned it to a classmate that happens to be an insurance
> underwritter he said that if my heart keeps doing that they often kill a
> nerve in the neck/upper-back in order to get the heart to beat at one pace
> from then on out. A nerve eh.....that got me thinking.....
>
> I asked my Dr. if a pinched nerve or slipped disk could cause my heart to do
> strange things....."Doubt it" was the answer. But - My heart issue has
> stablelized and only happens when I over exert myself so today I finally
> went to a chiropractor. On his list of things going on along with back pain,
> neck pain, dizziness was......wait for it.....Heart Palpitations. I spoke
> to him about this and he is very interested in looking into this a little
> more, seems both he and his coworker went to a weeklong seminar on what
> spinal issues can do to a persons nervous system, effecting lungs, brain and
> heart. after a series of tests it shows I favor my left side when sitting
> or standing, and am 40 pounds weaker with my right side (squeeeze test), and
> I cannot handle point presure on my right side at all. He's going to review
> the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
At the risk of promoting litigation, you may want to talk to a lawyer
to consider compensation as well. A good lawyer can put together the
right evidence to help make the argument that your injury is more
serious.
I would also be a bit dubious about some chiropractic advice - some of
them seem to think they can treat every thing under the sun with
manipulation. I hate to rely on chiropractic evidence.
Disclaimer - I am not looking to represent anyone on RSG.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 22:19:28
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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"Tighthead" <tighthead@lawyer.com > wrote in message
news:1161141555.178465.178280@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> At the risk of promoting litigation, you may want to talk to a lawyer
> to consider compensation as well. A good lawyer can put together the
> right evidence to help make the argument that your injury is more
> serious.
>
> I would also be a bit dubious about some chiropractic advice - some of
> them seem to think they can treat every thing under the sun with
> manipulation. I hate to rely on chiropractic evidence.
>
> Disclaimer - I am not looking to represent anyone on RSG.
It's strange to me that 3-4 weeks after the accident my heart started
palpitations. In the ER the nurse and I started talking and she mentioned
that she has a question for God when she dies regarding the nerve in your
lower back that when strained will slow and reset the heart beat (coughing
will to an extent as well) Then my classmate that works as an underwriter
mentions the killing of the nerve from the brain to the heart in order to
get the heart to control it's own rthym. Then filling out the questionair
in the Chiro's place and under symptoms; next to headaches is listed Heart
Palpitations. I've now done more research on the net and come up with many
Nerve Pinch / Heart issues. Interesting readings
http://studenthealth.oregonstate.edu/answerspot/message.php?message=2132
http://www.jvsr.com/abstracts/index.asp?id=210
and a bunch of other sites.
My regular Dr has also said that my back got screwed up in the accident. I
usually shy away from suing, hey other people screw up but still have lives
that I'd like to not ruin. That said - my wife is still having issues with
her back and neck because of an accident and she settled for $800; hardly
enough to cover any further medical costs when the issues flare up again.
This has me thinking that if all this (back, neck, numbness and heart) is
caused by an accident then I need to make sure that I'm covered
PS - I don't prescribe to Chiro's treating cancer and ear infections...etc
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 07:19:14
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
> "Tighthead" <tighthead@lawyer.com> wrote in message
> news:1161141555.178465.178280@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> At the risk of promoting litigation, you may want to talk to a lawyer
>> to consider compensation as well. A good lawyer can put together the
>> right evidence to help make the argument that your injury is more
>> serious.
>>
>> I would also be a bit dubious about some chiropractic advice - some of
>> them seem to think they can treat every thing under the sun with
>> manipulation. I hate to rely on chiropractic evidence.
>>
>> Disclaimer - I am not looking to represent anyone on RSG.
>
> It's strange to me that 3-4 weeks after the accident my heart started
> palpitations. In the ER the nurse and I started talking and she mentioned
> that she has a question for God when she dies regarding the nerve in your
> lower back that when strained will slow and reset the heart beat (coughing
> will to an extent as well) Then my classmate that works as an underwriter
> mentions the killing of the nerve from the brain to the heart in order to
> get the heart to control it's own rthym. Then filling out the questionair
> in the Chiro's place and under symptoms; next to headaches is listed Heart
> Palpitations. I've now done more research on the net and come up with many
> Nerve Pinch / Heart issues. Interesting readings
>
> http://studenthealth.oregonstate.edu/answerspot/message.php?message=2132
> http://www.jvsr.com/abstracts/index.asp?id=210
> and a bunch of other sites.
>
> My regular Dr has also said that my back got screwed up in the accident. I
> usually shy away from suing, hey other people screw up but still have lives
> that I'd like to not ruin. That said - my wife is still having issues with
> her back and neck because of an accident and she settled for $800; hardly
> enough to cover any further medical costs when the issues flare up again.
> This has me thinking that if all this (back, neck, numbness and heart) is
> caused by an accident then I need to make sure that I'm covered
>
>
>
> PS - I don't prescribe to Chiro's treating cancer and ear infections...etc
Good luck.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 12:50:06
From: Draco
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
<snip >
>. After an EKG, MRI and a 24hr carry around monitor all the Dr's could come up with was
> something electrical was causing the issue (nothing mechanical) the next
> week I mentioned it to a classmate that happens to be an insurance
> underwritter he said that if my heart keeps doing that they often kill a
> nerve in the neck/upper-back in order to get the heart to beat at one pace
> from then on out. A nerve eh.....that got me thinking.....
>
> I asked my Dr. if a pinched nerve or slipped disk could cause my heart to do
> strange things....."Doubt it" was the answer.
<snip >
Isn't it the way with doctors? If not in their field
they dismiss any other possibility. Get a second
opinion or even a third. Getting to a neurosurgeon
and having them do a new MRI may be
the best thing. They can see what others may
not reconize.
But - My heart issue has
> stablelized and only happens when I over exert myself so today I finally
> went to a chiropractor. On his list of things going on along with back pain,
> neck pain, dizziness was......wait for it.....Heart Palpitations. I spoke
> to him about this and he is very interested in looking into this a little
> more, seems both he and his coworker went to a weeklong seminar on what
> spinal issues can do to a persons nervous system, effecting lungs, brain and
> heart. after a series of tests it shows I favor my left side when sitting
> or standing, and am 40 pounds weaker with my right side (squeeeze test), and
> I cannot handle point presure on my right side at all. He's going to review
> the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
This is well and good. Yet if the chiropractor "Adjusts" you
in the wrong direction. They could cause more damage.
Best of luck to you. May everything be realigned and
next year you become a terror on the course.
Draco
Getting even isn't good enough.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 23:22:26
From: muk
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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On 17 Oct 2006 12:50:06 -0700, "Draco" <JPDFDA@HOTMAIL.COM > wrote:
>
>Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
><snip>
>>. After an EKG, MRI and a 24hr carry around monitor all the Dr's could come up with was
>> something electrical was causing the issue (nothing mechanical) the next
>> week I mentioned it to a classmate that happens to be an insurance
>> underwritter he said that if my heart keeps doing that they often kill a
>> nerve in the neck/upper-back in order to get the heart to beat at one pace
>> from then on out. A nerve eh.....that got me thinking.....
>>
>> I asked my Dr. if a pinched nerve or slipped disk could cause my heart to do
>> strange things....."Doubt it" was the answer.
><snip>
>Isn't it the way with doctors? If not in their field
>they dismiss any other possibility. Get a second
>opinion or even a third. Getting to a neurosurgeon
>and having them do a new MRI may be
>the best thing. They can see what others may
>not reconize.
"Isn't that the way with doctors?" is a bit of a broad, baseless
comment :0
But then again, this is rec.sport.golf, invaluable source of factual
information other than golf.
Good luck Matt, hope you get things sorted out.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 18:53:51
From: tt
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
....
> I cannot handle point presure on my right side at all. He's going to review
> the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
Leave no stone unturned. Wishes for a speedy recovery.
Nick
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 13:11:57
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:57:01 -0700, "Matt 'Ocho' Aamold"
<maamold@gmail.com > wrote:
>I wrote back in July that my car was rear-ended by a drunk driver (Police
>said more than drunk) I was having back pains and neck pains soon afterward.
>I went to the Dr and got X-Rays and they said sprains and a slipped disk and
>he prescribed physical therapy. <clip> He's going to review
>the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
>
Man, what a bummer. Do whatever it takes, but take care of it soon
and get well. We'll be thinking about you...
bobby
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 08:32:33
From: Bob Cotter
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:57:01 -0700, "Matt 'Ocho' Aamold"
<maamold@gmail.com > wrote:
>I wrote back in July that my car was rear-ended by a drunk driver
(Police
>said more than drunk) I was having back pains and neck pains soon
afterward.
>I went to the Dr and got X-Rays and they said sprains and a slipped
disk and
>he prescribed physical therapy. <clip> He's going to review
>the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
>
Matt... I'm sorry to hear of your problems. I always enjoy playing with
you or just chatting at RSGNW. I hope you are able to get fully
recovered for another session down there in May.
Cheers... Bob
--
If replying by email, please remove the removes.
Visit my home course at <http://www.sunshinecoastgolf.com >
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 11:07:43
From:
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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dugjustdug wrote:
> On Oct 17, 8:01 am, "oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com"
> <oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote:
> > > You need to go see a top notch neurologist and fast. I couldn't agree more. If you've had nerve issues, you need
> > to get them addressed. You don't need an X-ray, you need an
> > MRI.
>
> Agreed. And I've never stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
>
> I had a friend who passed away from cancer several years ago. One of
> the cancers that got treated well was a brain leision which, once
> removed, cleared up her breathing, swallowing and a host of other
> "minor" issues. We didn't find the issue without an MRI.
>
> Also, you may want to monitor your Potassium intake (make sure you have
> enough) as it will greatly effect your electric impulses to the heart.
> Easy to do with a banana or a glass of V-8 every day. One of those "it
> can't hurt" things.
>
> I hope your progress is quick and complete, Matt.
>
> -dug
Geez Ocho. I don't have any good IANAD advice, but sure hope that the
experts figure it out. Remember to never feel bashful about wanting to
get a second or third opinion. That's what your insurance (or theirs,
as may be) is all about.
GWS!
Rancho Bob
Huntington Beach, CA
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 00:51:16
From: Peter Strauss
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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On 17 Oct 2006 11:07:43 -0700, double_entendre@hotmail.com wrote:
> Geez Ocho. I don't have any good IANAD advice, but sure hope that the
> experts figure it out. Remember to never feel bashful about wanting to
> get a second or third opinion. That's what your insurance (or theirs,
> as may be) is all about.
>
> GWS!
>
Likewise, Dillhole. GWS indeed.
Peter
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 09:54:37
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
> I wrote back in July that my car was rear-ended by a drunk driver (Police
> said more than drunk) I was having back pains and neck pains soon afterward.
> I went to the Dr and got X-Rays and they said sprains and a slipped disk and
> he prescribed physical therapy. I only revealed to a couple of RSG'ers
> during a recent outing that within a month my heart started having
> palpitations, arithmias and sometimes a quick rythym of 160bpm (ER visit
> with that one) along with this came headaches and dizziness. After an EKG,
> MRI and a 24hr carry around monitor all the Dr's could come up with was
> something electrical was causing the issue (nothing mechanical) the next
> week I mentioned it to a classmate that happens to be an insurance
> underwritter he said that if my heart keeps doing that they often kill a
> nerve in the neck/upper-back in order to get the heart to beat at one pace
> from then on out. A nerve eh.....that got me thinking.....
>
> I asked my Dr. if a pinched nerve or slipped disk could cause my heart to do
> strange things....."Doubt it" was the answer. But - My heart issue has
> stablelized and only happens when I over exert myself so today I finally
> went to a chiropractor. On his list of things going on along with back pain,
> neck pain, dizziness was......wait for it.....Heart Palpitations. I spoke
> to him about this and he is very interested in looking into this a little
> more, seems both he and his coworker went to a weeklong seminar on what
> spinal issues can do to a persons nervous system, effecting lungs, brain and
> heart. after a series of tests it shows I favor my left side when sitting
> or standing, and am 40 pounds weaker with my right side (squeeeze test), and
> I cannot handle point presure on my right side at all. He's going to review
> the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
>
>
here's hoping for a speedy recovery dude! As one who has had an atrial
flutter causing a constant 160bpm, that was fixed with a cardio version
(sp?) I know it's a scary deal.
good luck, and if you're going to die, could you ship me the big shirt
first :-P
Dave
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 18:02:46
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
news:7V7Zg.139$KJ3.92@newsfe06.lga...
> good luck, and if you're going to die, could you ship me the big shirt
> first :-P
Somehow I knew the shirt would come up :-).
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 19:21:15
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
> "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> news:7V7Zg.139$KJ3.92@newsfe06.lga...
>> good luck, and if you're going to die, could you ship me the big shirt
>> first :-P
>
> Somehow I knew the shirt would come up :-).
>
>
my sense of humor sometimes embarrasses me...I hope you know that I was
kidding and that I hope the best for you...
and, no excuses at RSG-NW next year :)
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 19:50:15
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
news:vcgZg.383$Vq4.180@newsfe05.lga...
> my sense of humor sometimes embarrasses me...I hope you know that I was
> kidding and that I hope the best for you...
>
> and, no excuses at RSG-NW next year :)
6 irons at dawn in May. :-)
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 07:43:30
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
> "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> news:vcgZg.383$Vq4.180@newsfe05.lga...
>> my sense of humor sometimes embarrasses me...I hope you know that I was
>> kidding and that I hope the best for you...
>>
>> and, no excuses at RSG-NW next year :)
>
> 6 irons at dawn in May. :-)
>
>
I'll be there on the first tee my friend!
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 13:59:41
From: David Sneddon
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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long&left wrote:
> Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
>
>> I wrote back in July that my car was rear-ended by a drunk driver
>> (Police said more than drunk) I was having back pains and neck pains
>> soon afterward. I went to the Dr and got X-Rays and they said sprains
>> and a slipped disk and he prescribed physical therapy. I only
>> revealed to a couple of RSG'ers during a recent outing that within a
>> month my heart started having palpitations, arithmias and sometimes a
>> quick rythym of 160bpm (ER visit with that one) along with this came
>> headaches and dizziness. After an EKG, MRI and a 24hr carry around
>> monitor all the Dr's could come up with was something electrical was
>> causing the issue (nothing mechanical) the next week I mentioned it to
>> a classmate that happens to be an insurance underwritter he said that
>> if my heart keeps doing that they often kill a nerve in the
>> neck/upper-back in order to get the heart to beat at one pace from
>> then on out. A nerve eh.....that got me thinking.....
>>
>> I asked my Dr. if a pinched nerve or slipped disk could cause my heart
>> to do strange things....."Doubt it" was the answer. But - My heart
>> issue has stablelized and only happens when I over exert myself so
>> today I finally went to a chiropractor. On his list of things going on
>> along with back pain, neck pain, dizziness was......wait for
>> it.....Heart Palpitations. I spoke to him about this and he is very
>> interested in looking into this a little more, seems both he and his
>> coworker went to a weeklong seminar on what spinal issues can do to a
>> persons nervous system, effecting lungs, brain and heart. after a
>> series of tests it shows I favor my left side when sitting or
>> standing, and am 40 pounds weaker with my right side (squeeeze test),
>> and I cannot handle point presure on my right side at all. He's going
>> to review the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
I think the suggestion of seeing a neurosurgeon ASAP is good advice
Matt. You don't want to fool with the ticker for any longer than necessary.
Wish you all the best.
David
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 08:20:25
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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On Oct 17, 8:01 am, "oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com"
<oconn...@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote:
> > You need to go see a top notch neurologist and fast. I couldn't agree more. If you've had nerve issues, you need
> to get them addressed. You don't need an X-ray, you need an
> MRI.
Agreed. And I've never stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
I had a friend who passed away from cancer several years ago. One of
the cancers that got treated well was a brain leision which, once
removed, cleared up her breathing, swallowing and a host of other
"minor" issues. We didn't find the issue without an MRI.
Also, you may want to monitor your Potassium intake (make sure you have
enough) as it will greatly effect your electric impulses to the heart.
Easy to do with a banana or a glass of V-8 every day. One of those "it
can't hurt" things.
I hope your progress is quick and complete, Matt.
-dug
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 08:01:28
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Bert Robbins wrote:
> Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
[snip]
> > After an EKG,
> > MRI and a 24hr carry around monitor all the Dr's could come up with was
> > something electrical was causing the issue (nothing mechanical) the next
> > week I mentioned it to a classmate that happens to be an insurance
> > underwritter he said that if my heart keeps doing that they often kill a
> > nerve in the neck/upper-back in order to get the heart to beat at one pace
> > from then on out. A nerve eh.....that got me thinking.....
[snip]
>
> You need to go see a top notch neurologist and fast.
I couldn't agree more. If you've had nerve issues, you need
to get them addressed. You don't need an X-ray, you need an
MRI.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 18:01:13
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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<oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote in message
news:1161097288.605708.281780@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> I couldn't agree more. If you've had nerve issues, you need
> to get them addressed. You don't need an X-ray, you need an
> MRI.
The chiropractor mentioned the possibility of recomending an MRI to see
what's going on. I did take a look at my X-Rays today and holy cow my neck
is WAY off, he said that with my neck and backout of whack he doesn't doubt
that some nerves and such are being pinched. The guy did the first the
segal on my neck today.....I feel better already.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 21:45:04
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
> <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message
> news:1161097288.605708.281780@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> I couldn't agree more. If you've had nerve issues, you need
>> to get them addressed. You don't need an X-ray, you need an
>> MRI.
>
> The chiropractor mentioned the possibility of recomending an MRI to see
> what's going on. I did take a look at my X-Rays today and holy cow my neck
> is WAY off, he said that with my neck and backout of whack he doesn't doubt
> that some nerves and such are being pinched. The guy did the first the
> segal on my neck today.....I feel better already.
Go see a neurologist. I had a massive rupture of a disk that compressed
all of the nerves in my spine with lingering nerve problems in both feet
and legs. They can't be treated by manipulation. An MRI should be done
and it should be read by by the radiologist and your neurologist.
And, do not ever get epidural injections of any kind for any reason.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 19:53:59
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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"Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com > wrote in message
news:raydnXpDUuu8GqjYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Go see a neurologist. I had a massive rupture of a disk that compressed
> all of the nerves in my spine with lingering nerve problems in both feet
> and legs. They can't be treated by manipulation. An MRI should be done and
> it should be read by by the radiologist and your neurologist.
That's three for a neurologist....guess I'll make a call to my priy
tomorrow to get that setup.
> And, do not ever get epidural injections of any kind for any reason.
Ugh, never! I've had spinal fluid taken once (I think I was 20) and I was
very uncomfortable. The lady tried for about 5 min before they rolled me
down to a live X-ray machine (I guess) so a specialist could see what he was
doing.
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 11:34:39
From: Plat
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
> "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
> news:raydnXpDUuu8GqjYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>Go see a neurologist. I had a massive rupture of a disk that compressed
>>all of the nerves in my spine with lingering nerve problems in both feet
>>and legs. They can't be treated by manipulation. An MRI should be done and
>>it should be read by by the radiologist and your neurologist.
>
>
> That's three for a neurologist....guess I'll make a call to my priy
> tomorrow to get that setup.
>
>
>>And, do not ever get epidural injections of any kind for any reason.
>
>
> Ugh, never! I've had spinal fluid taken once (I think I was 20) and I was
> very uncomfortable. The lady tried for about 5 min before they rolled me
> down to a live X-ray machine (I guess) so a specialist could see what he was
> doing.
>
>
Matt- chiming in a little late here. It always concerns me when
chiropractors seem to step out of their boundries. They are pretty
well-trained to deal with most spinal musculoskeletal issues. I have a
problem with chiropractors who claim that their adjustments cure
diseases, such as heart disease, asthma, etc etc. In your case- if you
continue to have arrhythmias, you need a full cardiac workup. With a
cardiologist. And a good one with a specialty in electrophysiology. I
too would doubt that a "pinched nerve in your spine", as such, would
cause an arrhythmia. Stress (how about dealing with that post-accident
insurance??), trauma, caffeine, and underlying heart disease, etc etc-
now those could cause a transient arrhythmia. But I'm not a cardiologist.
A chiropractor is looking for what they call "subluxations" on xray. The
existance of subluxations is up for debate in the medical community, but
the fact is that you really want to know what you're are dealing with if
you are manipulating the cervical spine. An xray will not show a disk
problem. Responsible chiropractic care can be very helpful in
alleviating neck pain, even with certain types of disk problems.
However, considering your history of a nasty car accident, if you are
having radiating pain, weakness in your extremities, or persistent neck
pain, an MRI and a trip to the neurosurgeon is in order.
I'd say play it safe. Get the MRI. If you do have a disk problem with
any kind of spinal cord impingement, you do *not* want a chiropractor
messing with your neck.
JMHO. Regards,
Plat, MS PT
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 19:03:16
From: Peter Strauss
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:34:39 GMT, Plat <platysma@earthlink.net > wrote:
> Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
>
> > "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
> > news:raydnXpDUuu8GqjYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >
> >>Go see a neurologist. I had a massive rupture of a disk that compressed
> >>all of the nerves in my spine with lingering nerve problems in both feet
> >>and legs. They can't be treated by manipulation. An MRI should be done and
> >>it should be read by by the radiologist and your neurologist.
> >
> >
> > That's three for a neurologist....guess I'll make a call to my priy
> > tomorrow to get that setup.
> >
> >
> >>And, do not ever get epidural injections of any kind for any reason.
> >
> >
> > Ugh, never! I've had spinal fluid taken once (I think I was 20) and I was
> > very uncomfortable. The lady tried for about 5 min before they rolled me
> > down to a live X-ray machine (I guess) so a specialist could see what he was
> > doing.
> >
> >
>
> Matt- chiming in a little late here. It always concerns me when
> chiropractors seem to step out of their boundries. They are pretty
> well-trained to deal with most spinal musculoskeletal issues. I have a
> problem with chiropractors who claim that their adjustments cure
> diseases, such as heart disease, asthma, etc etc. In your case- if you
> continue to have arrhythmias, you need a full cardiac workup. With a
> cardiologist. And a good one with a specialty in electrophysiology. I
> too would doubt that a "pinched nerve in your spine", as such, would
> cause an arrhythmia. Stress (how about dealing with that post-accident
> insurance??), trauma, caffeine, and underlying heart disease, etc etc-
> now those could cause a transient arrhythmia. But I'm not a cardiologist.
>
> A chiropractor is looking for what they call "subluxations" on xray. The
> existance of subluxations is up for debate in the medical community, but
> the fact is that you really want to know what you're are dealing with if
> you are manipulating the cervical spine. An xray will not show a disk
> problem. Responsible chiropractic care can be very helpful in
> alleviating neck pain, even with certain types of disk problems.
> However, considering your history of a nasty car accident, if you are
> having radiating pain, weakness in your extremities, or persistent neck
> pain, an MRI and a trip to the neurosurgeon is in order.
>
> I'd say play it safe. Get the MRI. If you do have a disk problem with
> any kind of spinal cord impingement, you do *not* want a chiropractor
> messing with your neck.
>
Could not agree more, Matt and Plat.
I have a history of a car accident, provoked by my having fainted dead
away while driving to a followup appt. with a cardiologist!
Turned out that I have what's called an AV block: an
atrial-ventricular interruption in the conductive cells in the heart
from its own pacemaker node down to the ventricles. The accident was
the result of that broken circuit. I now have a pacemaker, and more
staying power in exercise and far less arrhythmias than I had
experienced more or less daily prior to the accident.
I also have had both very positive and very suspect treatments from
chiropractors. The best one, who alas is no longer taking insurance
payments due to the hassles involved, has always been both right on in
his work with me, and totally appropriate in referring me when needed
for afflictions beyond his scope of practice, and he's a
neurology-certified chiro, in the bargain. The others: 1 of them
peddled magnetic shoe inserts, and other magnetic nostrums,
shamelessly, which turned me right the hell off; and 1 who talked a
great game but produced relative zilch in the area of amelioration of
symptoms.
Chiropractic, in my book, is fine for lower back stuff; keep the hell
away from my neck, Jack!
Matt, get thee to a neurologist pronto!
Disks do not show up on x-ray. They're soft tissue. I've been told
that by a sports doc to whom I went for leg- and back-stuff (he, by
the way, referred me for acupuncture, which may or may not have
helped. I've never been able to determine if it was the acu- or just
TOT (tincture of time) that did the job), as well as by my priy
care doc, the good chiro, and others.
And because of my pacemaker, I can't get MRI's -- the machine would
pull the gadget and its leads right out of my chest and heart. Not a
pretty picture, even if I lived long enough afterwards to see it.
Peter
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 20:12:31
From: muk
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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>And because of my pacemaker, I can't get MRI's -- the machine would
>pull the gadget and its leads right out of my chest and heart. Not a
>pretty picture, even if I lived long enough afterwards to see it.
>
>Peter
There is hope on the horizon for you; an article crossed my desk
recently stating that with new technology they can now do MRI's on
people who have chest hardware. (pacemakers and ICD's). Must confess I
did not read the whole thing.
Some of it can be read here: http://tinyurl.com/y2x9lv
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Date: 19 Oct 2006 01:43:27
From: Peter Strauss
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:12:31 GMT, muk <mukhp@NOSPAMhotmail.com > wrote:
>
> >And because of my pacemaker, I can't get MRI's -- the machine would
> >pull the gadget and its leads right out of my chest and heart. Not a
> >pretty picture, even if I lived long enough afterwards to see it.
> >
> >Peter
>
>
> There is hope on the horizon for you; an article crossed my desk
> recently stating that with new technology they can now do MRI's on
> people who have chest hardware. (pacemakers and ICD's). Must confess I
> did not read the whole thing.
>
> Some of it can be read here: http://tinyurl.com/y2x9lv
Thanks very much! Appreciate knowing of this.
Peter
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 16:36:59
From: carl llewellyn
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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I suggest that you hide your clubs. Looking at them while you are not
playing will drive you nuts.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 08:11:31
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
> I wrote back in July that my car was rear-ended by a drunk driver (Police
> said more than drunk) I was having back pains and neck pains soon afterward.
> I went to the Dr and got X-Rays and they said sprains and a slipped disk and
> he prescribed physical therapy. I only revealed to a couple of RSG'ers
> during a recent outing that within a month my heart started having
> palpitations, arithmias and sometimes a quick rythym of 160bpm (ER visit
> with that one) along with this came headaches and dizziness. After an EKG,
> MRI and a 24hr carry around monitor all the Dr's could come up with was
> something electrical was causing the issue (nothing mechanical) the next
> week I mentioned it to a classmate that happens to be an insurance
> underwritter he said that if my heart keeps doing that they often kill a
> nerve in the neck/upper-back in order to get the heart to beat at one pace
> from then on out. A nerve eh.....that got me thinking.....
>
> I asked my Dr. if a pinched nerve or slipped disk could cause my heart to do
> strange things....."Doubt it" was the answer. But - My heart issue has
> stablelized and only happens when I over exert myself so today I finally
> went to a chiropractor. On his list of things going on along with back pain,
> neck pain, dizziness was......wait for it.....Heart Palpitations. I spoke
> to him about this and he is very interested in looking into this a little
> more, seems both he and his coworker went to a weeklong seminar on what
> spinal issues can do to a persons nervous system, effecting lungs, brain and
> heart. after a series of tests it shows I favor my left side when sitting
> or standing, and am 40 pounds weaker with my right side (squeeeze test), and
> I cannot handle point presure on my right side at all. He's going to review
> the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
>
>
You need to go see a top notch neurologist and fast.
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 14:19:08
From: muk
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:11:31 -0400, Bert Robbins <screw@you.com > :
>Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
>> I wrote back in July that my car was rear-ended by a drunk driver (Police
>> said more than drunk) I was having back pains and neck pains soon afterward.
>> I went to the Dr and got X-Rays and they said sprains and a slipped disk and
>> he prescribed physical therapy. I only revealed to a couple of RSG'ers
>> during a recent outing that within a month my heart started having
>> palpitations, arithmias and sometimes a quick rythym of 160bpm (ER visit
>> with that one) along with this came headaches and dizziness. After an EKG,
>> MRI and a 24hr carry around monitor all the Dr's could come up with was
>> something electrical was causing the issue (nothing mechanical) the next
>> week I mentioned it to a classmate that happens to be an insurance
>> underwritter he said that if my heart keeps doing that they often kill a
>> nerve in the neck/upper-back in order to get the heart to beat at one pace
>> from then on out. A nerve eh.....that got me thinking.....
>>
>> I asked my Dr. if a pinched nerve or slipped disk could cause my heart to do
>> strange things....."Doubt it" was the answer. But - My heart issue has
>> stablelized and only happens when I over exert myself so today I finally
>> went to a chiropractor. On his list of things going on along with back pain,
>> neck pain, dizziness was......wait for it.....Heart Palpitations. I spoke
>> to him about this and he is very interested in looking into this a little
>> more, seems both he and his coworker went to a weeklong seminar on what
>> spinal issues can do to a persons nervous system, effecting lungs, brain and
>> heart. after a series of tests it shows I favor my left side when sitting
>> or standing, and am 40 pounds weaker with my right side (squeeeze test), and
>> I cannot handle point presure on my right side at all. He's going to review
>> the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
>>
>>
>
>You need to go see a top notch neurologist and fast.
Before or after he's seen the chiropractor three times a week for 5
years? :O
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Date: 16 Oct 2006 23:30:24
From: Mike Bowen
Subject: Re: Follow up to my car accident
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"Matt 'Ocho' Aamold" <maamold@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:2MydnW6m8NXg26nYnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I wrote back in July that my car was rear-ended by a drunk driver
He's going to review
> the X-rays tomorrow with my next appointment.
Interesting discoveries.
I hope they can get you fixed. We need more weather statements for next
year.
Mike Bowen
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