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Date: 13 Oct 2006 10:03:56
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Fall & fairway lost balls...
Living in the midwest, one of the things we get is the problem of losing
balls in the fairway during the fall. ( Well, in the spring too)

Our course has plenty of trees and of course, this time of year, the
leaves are falling faster than the grounds crew can even hope to keep up
with them. Coupled with the way the sun lays in the sky, it isn't
uncommon at all to hit a ball right down the middle and still not be
able to find it.

I've tried colored balls, with no luck. The white balls are as easy or
difficult to see as any of the colored balls.

One technique that we use often is to walk past where we think the ball
should be and look back for it. This seems to work most often.

Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post scores
for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that, and it does
help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional when the
possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good option
because you would almost have to do that on each drive on every hole
except the par 3's.

If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?




 
Date: 13 Oct 2006 20:44:50
From: Noons
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

>
> With my weekday group, the only thing on the line is who buys the
> 'senior cups' at mickey D's!


As it SHOULD be! Well done!



 
Date: 13 Oct 2006 20:33:08
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: George W. Bush
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:30:08 -0700, Tex wrote:

> Much like the Dems had the Foley emails back in July...but sat on it for
> maximum "hit" value right before the elections.

Hastert's office knew about Foley for at least a year and did nothing
about it. Do you think it was right to allow a pedophile access to
underage boys because of political expediency? Because most folks are
going to disagree with you.

And obviously, if Hastert had done the right thing when he first heard
about Foley it wouldn't be an election issue now.


 
Date: 13 Oct 2006 17:00:23
From: Phoxie
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...
Bring a leaf blower with you.




 
Date: 13 Oct 2006 09:50:51
From: Noons
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
> one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post scores
> for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that, and it does
> help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional when the
> possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good option
> because you would almost have to do that on each drive on every hole
> except the par 3's.


Careful! If Peter Strauss reads this, you'll
be immediately accused of cheating!...


> If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?


Exactly what you do, when and if under the same conditions.
It's supposed to be a game of gentleman disposition,
after all. Not an avenue for husslers to peddle their
wares.



  
Date: 13 Oct 2006 12:06:29
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...
In article <1160758251.664550.73170@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >,
"Noons" <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au > wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
> > Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
> > one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post scores
> > for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that, and it does
> > help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional when the
> > possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good option
> > because you would almost have to do that on each drive on every hole
> > except the par 3's.
>
>
> Careful! If Peter Strauss reads this, you'll
> be immediately accused of cheating!...
>
>
> > If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?
>
>
> Exactly what you do, when and if under the same conditions.
> It's supposed to be a game of gentleman disposition,
> after all. Not an avenue for husslers to peddle their
> wares.

With my weekday group, the only thing on the line is who buys the
'senior cups' at mickey D's!


 
Date: 13 Oct 2006 09:37:10
From:
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...

Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> Living in the midwest, one of the things we get is the problem of losing
> balls in the fairway during the fall. ( Well, in the spring too)
>
> Our course has plenty of trees and of course, this time of year, the
> leaves are falling faster than the grounds crew can even hope to keep up
> with them. Coupled with the way the sun lays in the sky, it isn't
> uncommon at all to hit a ball right down the middle and still not be
> able to find it.
>
> I've tried colored balls, with no luck. The white balls are as easy or
> difficult to see as any of the colored balls.
>
> One technique that we use often is to walk past where we think the ball
> should be and look back for it. This seems to work most often.
>
> Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
> one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post scores
> for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that, and it does
> help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional when the
> possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good option
> because you would almost have to do that on each drive on every hole
> except the par 3's.
>
> If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?

Declare it MIA...Local Rules Rule 5...see below.


LOCAL RULES

IF A BALL IS SWUNG AT AND MISSED

1. A player who assumes his stance, formally addresses the ball and
then fairly strikes at it, but in so doing fails completely to make
contact with any part of the ball, is deemed to have performed a
full-address rehearsal of his swing (practice swing) and therefore need
not count a stroke.
However, he must not show by either facial or verbal expression any
disgust, frustration or provide any excuse.
Above all, he should not bag the course.

BALL RENOUNCED IN FLIGHT

2. A player who hits a long, high drive that immediately travels in a
clearly undesirable direction may disown the ball while it is istill in
flight and instantly tee up and hit another without assessing a stroke
for the wayward shot.

BALL PLAYABLE IN WATER HAZARD, BUT JUST NOT WORTH IT

3. If a player's ball comes to rest within the gins of a water
hazard in a highly playable lie from which he is certain he could, if
he so desired, hit a successful recovery shot with no difficulty
whatsoever, but the shy, muddy, swampy, or boggy state of the
surrounding terrain makes it inevitable that in the execution of such a
stroke, he himself, his clothing or his equipment would be extensively
soiled and/or soaked or that he would be obliged to assume a stance
requiring the time-consuming removal of his footgear or other elaborate
preparations, he may move his ball, without penalty, to the nearest
equally favourable lie inside the hazard where conditions are
sufficiently dry to permit prudent, sensible and reasonable play.

BALL NOT PUT FULLY INTO PLAY

4. A player may replay any tee shot once, without assessing a stroke,
if his ball fails to pass beyond the forward edge of the raised mound
or grassy area comprisin the ladies' tees.

BALL MISSING IN FAIRWAY BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT LOST

5. When a player cannot find a ball that he has clearly and
unmistakably hit into the fairway, he may declare his ball to be
'missing but not lost' and drop another ball in the approximate place
where his original ball must have come to rest and play that second
ball, without penalty or stroke.

BALL HIT SLIGHTLY OUT-OF-BOUNDS

6. If the ball lies just beyond the line of the out-of-bounds stakes
and can be tapped, pulled, dragged or spooned back into bounds with any
conforming golf club by a player standing within bounds and if the ball
landed out-of-bounds but was clearly attempting to return within bounds
when its progress was improperly blocked by mysterious forces beyond
comprehension, then the ball may be dropped and played without penalty.

BALL HIDING FROM PLAYER

7. If a player cannot find a ball that has been hit in plain sight
into a reasonably playable area of the course where there is an
accumulation of dead leaves, seasonal debris, grass clippings or other
forms of incidental camouflage in which furtive ball could improperly
conceal itself, the ball shall be deemed to be hiding..

AUDIBLE INTERFERENCE WITH SWING

8. A player may replay his shot without assessing a stroke if at any
time during his backswing or downswing and prior to the moment when he
strikes the ball, he shall hear a distracting sound or noise of any
type, even though this sound may not have been heard by any of his
playing partners and the source of it is unclear.

AGREEMENT TO RE-TEE

9. If all the members of a playing group hit truly horrendous drives
from the tee from the tee of the same hole, they may unanimously agree
to replay their shots without assessing any strokes or incurring any
penalties.

ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENT OF SCORES

10. In order to allow for occasional imprecise recollections of
strokes taken on a hole and to obviate the need for tedious
recapitulations of play, any player who knows that he hit more than six
shots on a hole but cannot say with certainty whether hit a total of
seven, eight, nine, or ten shall return a score of seven on that hole.

ADJUSTMENT OF LIE PRIOR TO BOLD PLAY

11. If a player declares his intention to hit his ball between,
through, around or over any obstructing objects, he is entitled, by
reason of his dauntless and venturesome play, to improve his lie,
without penalty, by rolling or tapping hs ball to a perfect lie.



  
Date: 14 Oct 2006 15:23:24
From: Limulus Oxnard
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...
12. Five Second rule

A tee shot which is able to be retrieved within five seconds may be
re-tee'd and re-played without penalty.


curtjester@webtv.net wrote in
news:1160757429.976579.199290@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

>
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> Living in the midwest, one of the things we get is the problem of
>> losing balls in the fairway during the fall. ( Well, in the spring
>> too)
>>
>> Our course has plenty of trees and of course, this time of year, the
>> leaves are falling faster than the grounds crew can even hope to keep
>> up with them. Coupled with the way the sun lays in the sky, it isn't
>> uncommon at all to hit a ball right down the middle and still not be
>> able to find it.
>>
>> I've tried colored balls, with no luck. The white balls are as easy
>> or difficult to see as any of the colored balls.
>>
>> One technique that we use often is to walk past where we think the
>> ball should be and look back for it. This seems to work most often.
>>
>> Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
>> one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post
>> scores for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that,
>> and it does help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional
>> when the possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good
>> option because you would almost have to do that on each drive on
>> every hole except the par 3's.
>>
>> If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?
>
> Declare it MIA...Local Rules Rule 5...see below.
>
>
> LOCAL RULES
>
> IF A BALL IS SWUNG AT AND MISSED
>
> 1. A player who assumes his stance, formally addresses the ball and
> then fairly strikes at it, but in so doing fails completely to make
> contact with any part of the ball, is deemed to have performed a
> full-address rehearsal of his swing (practice swing) and therefore
> need not count a stroke.
> However, he must not show by either facial or verbal expression any
> disgust, frustration or provide any excuse.
> Above all, he should not bag the course.
>
> BALL RENOUNCED IN FLIGHT
>
> 2. A player who hits a long, high drive that immediately travels in a
> clearly undesirable direction may disown the ball while it is istill
> in flight and instantly tee up and hit another without assessing a
> stroke for the wayward shot.
>
> BALL PLAYABLE IN WATER HAZARD, BUT JUST NOT WORTH IT
>
> 3. If a player's ball comes to rest within the gins of a water
> hazard in a highly playable lie from which he is certain he could, if
> he so desired, hit a successful recovery shot with no difficulty
> whatsoever, but the shy, muddy, swampy, or boggy state of the
> surrounding terrain makes it inevitable that in the execution of such
> a stroke, he himself, his clothing or his equipment would be
> extensively soiled and/or soaked or that he would be obliged to assume
> a stance requiring the time-consuming removal of his footgear or other
> elaborate preparations, he may move his ball, without penalty, to the
> nearest equally favourable lie inside the hazard where conditions are
> sufficiently dry to permit prudent, sensible and reasonable play.
>
> BALL NOT PUT FULLY INTO PLAY
>
> 4. A player may replay any tee shot once, without assessing a stroke,
> if his ball fails to pass beyond the forward edge of the raised mound
> or grassy area comprisin the ladies' tees.
>
> BALL MISSING IN FAIRWAY BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT LOST
>
> 5. When a player cannot find a ball that he has clearly and
> unmistakably hit into the fairway, he may declare his ball to be
> 'missing but not lost' and drop another ball in the approximate place
> where his original ball must have come to rest and play that second
> ball, without penalty or stroke.
>
> BALL HIT SLIGHTLY OUT-OF-BOUNDS
>
> 6. If the ball lies just beyond the line of the out-of-bounds stakes
> and can be tapped, pulled, dragged or spooned back into bounds with
> any conforming golf club by a player standing within bounds and if the
> ball landed out-of-bounds but was clearly attempting to return within
> bounds when its progress was improperly blocked by mysterious forces
> beyond comprehension, then the ball may be dropped and played without
> penalty.
>
> BALL HIDING FROM PLAYER
>
> 7. If a player cannot find a ball that has been hit in plain sight
> into a reasonably playable area of the course where there is an
> accumulation of dead leaves, seasonal debris, grass clippings or other
> forms of incidental camouflage in which furtive ball could improperly
> conceal itself, the ball shall be deemed to be hiding..
>
> AUDIBLE INTERFERENCE WITH SWING
>
> 8. A player may replay his shot without assessing a stroke if at any
> time during his backswing or downswing and prior to the moment when he
> strikes the ball, he shall hear a distracting sound or noise of any
> type, even though this sound may not have been heard by any of his
> playing partners and the source of it is unclear.
>
> AGREEMENT TO RE-TEE
>
> 9. If all the members of a playing group hit truly horrendous drives
> from the tee from the tee of the same hole, they may unanimously agree
> to replay their shots without assessing any strokes or incurring any
> penalties.
>
> ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENT OF SCORES
>
> 10. In order to allow for occasional imprecise recollections of
> strokes taken on a hole and to obviate the need for tedious
> recapitulations of play, any player who knows that he hit more than
> six shots on a hole but cannot say with certainty whether hit a total
> of seven, eight, nine, or ten shall return a score of seven on that
> hole.
>
> ADJUSTMENT OF LIE PRIOR TO BOLD PLAY
>
> 11. If a player declares his intention to hit his ball between,
> through, around or over any obstructing objects, he is entitled, by
> reason of his dauntless and venturesome play, to improve his lie,
> without penalty, by rolling or tapping hs ball to a perfect lie.
>



  
Date: 13 Oct 2006 11:48:27
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...
In article <1160757429.976579.199290@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
curtjester@webtv.net wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
> > Living in the midwest, one of the things we get is the problem of losing
> > balls in the fairway during the fall. ( Well, in the spring too)
> >
> > Our course has plenty of trees and of course, this time of year, the
> > leaves are falling faster than the grounds crew can even hope to keep up
> > with them. Coupled with the way the sun lays in the sky, it isn't
> > uncommon at all to hit a ball right down the middle and still not be
> > able to find it.
> >
> > I've tried colored balls, with no luck. The white balls are as easy or
> > difficult to see as any of the colored balls.
> >
> > One technique that we use often is to walk past where we think the ball
> > should be and look back for it. This seems to work most often.
> >
> > Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
> > one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post scores
> > for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that, and it does
> > help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional when the
> > possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good option
> > because you would almost have to do that on each drive on every hole
> > except the par 3's.
> >
> > If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?
>
> Declare it MIA...Local Rules Rule 5...see below.
>
>
> LOCAL RULES
>
> IF A BALL IS SWUNG AT AND MISSED
>
> 1. A player who assumes his stance, formally addresses the ball and
> then fairly strikes at it, but in so doing fails completely to make
> contact with any part of the ball, is deemed to have performed a
> full-address rehearsal of his swing (practice swing) and therefore need
> not count a stroke.
> However, he must not show by either facial or verbal expression any
> disgust, frustration or provide any excuse.
> Above all, he should not bag the course.
>
> BALL RENOUNCED IN FLIGHT
>
> 2. A player who hits a long, high drive that immediately travels in a
> clearly undesirable direction may disown the ball while it is istill in
> flight and instantly tee up and hit another without assessing a stroke
> for the wayward shot.
>
> BALL PLAYABLE IN WATER HAZARD, BUT JUST NOT WORTH IT
>
> 3. If a player's ball comes to rest within the gins of a water
> hazard in a highly playable lie from which he is certain he could, if
> he so desired, hit a successful recovery shot with no difficulty
> whatsoever, but the shy, muddy, swampy, or boggy state of the
> surrounding terrain makes it inevitable that in the execution of such a
> stroke, he himself, his clothing or his equipment would be extensively
> soiled and/or soaked or that he would be obliged to assume a stance
> requiring the time-consuming removal of his footgear or other elaborate
> preparations, he may move his ball, without penalty, to the nearest
> equally favourable lie inside the hazard where conditions are
> sufficiently dry to permit prudent, sensible and reasonable play.
>
> BALL NOT PUT FULLY INTO PLAY
>
> 4. A player may replay any tee shot once, without assessing a stroke,
> if his ball fails to pass beyond the forward edge of the raised mound
> or grassy area comprisin the ladies' tees.
>
> BALL MISSING IN FAIRWAY BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT LOST
>
> 5. When a player cannot find a ball that he has clearly and
> unmistakably hit into the fairway, he may declare his ball to be
> 'missing but not lost' and drop another ball in the approximate place
> where his original ball must have come to rest and play that second
> ball, without penalty or stroke.
>
> BALL HIT SLIGHTLY OUT-OF-BOUNDS
>
> 6. If the ball lies just beyond the line of the out-of-bounds stakes
> and can be tapped, pulled, dragged or spooned back into bounds with any
> conforming golf club by a player standing within bounds and if the ball
> landed out-of-bounds but was clearly attempting to return within bounds
> when its progress was improperly blocked by mysterious forces beyond
> comprehension, then the ball may be dropped and played without penalty.
>
> BALL HIDING FROM PLAYER
>
> 7. If a player cannot find a ball that has been hit in plain sight
> into a reasonably playable area of the course where there is an
> accumulation of dead leaves, seasonal debris, grass clippings or other
> forms of incidental camouflage in which furtive ball could improperly
> conceal itself, the ball shall be deemed to be hiding..
>
> AUDIBLE INTERFERENCE WITH SWING
>
> 8. A player may replay his shot without assessing a stroke if at any
> time during his backswing or downswing and prior to the moment when he
> strikes the ball, he shall hear a distracting sound or noise of any
> type, even though this sound may not have been heard by any of his
> playing partners and the source of it is unclear.
>
> AGREEMENT TO RE-TEE
>
> 9. If all the members of a playing group hit truly horrendous drives
> from the tee from the tee of the same hole, they may unanimously agree
> to replay their shots without assessing any strokes or incurring any
> penalties.
>
> ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENT OF SCORES
>
> 10. In order to allow for occasional imprecise recollections of
> strokes taken on a hole and to obviate the need for tedious
> recapitulations of play, any player who knows that he hit more than six
> shots on a hole but cannot say with certainty whether hit a total of
> seven, eight, nine, or ten shall return a score of seven on that hole.
>
> ADJUSTMENT OF LIE PRIOR TO BOLD PLAY
>
> 11. If a player declares his intention to hit his ball between,
> through, around or over any obstructing objects, he is entitled, by
> reason of his dauntless and venturesome play, to improve his lie,
> without penalty, by rolling or tapping hs ball to a perfect lie.

LOL! I love it.


 
Date: 13 Oct 2006 08:40:54
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...
> If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?

We just have a gentleman's agreement to toss a ball down where you
think it should be and play on, if it's reasonble that the ball would
have still be in play otherwise.

Now, if I could just find some gentlemen to play with.



 
Date: 13 Oct 2006 08:15:49
From: Draco
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...

Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> Living in the midwest, one of the things we get is the problem of losing
> balls in the fairway during the fall. ( Well, in the spring too)
>
> Our course has plenty of trees and of course, this time of year, the
> leaves are falling faster than the grounds crew can even hope to keep up
> with them. Coupled with the way the sun lays in the sky, it isn't
> uncommon at all to hit a ball right down the middle and still not be
> able to find it.
>
> I've tried colored balls, with no luck. The white balls are as easy or
> difficult to see as any of the colored balls.
>
> One technique that we use often is to walk past where we think the ball
> should be and look back for it. This seems to work most often.
>
> Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
> one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post scores
> for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that, and it does
> help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional when the
> possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good option
> because you would almost have to do that on each drive on every hole
> except the par 3's.
>
> If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?

Look for the dang thing. If not found then drop and play on.
No loss of distance or stroke.
Last year I played and on our 8th hole sliced
it into some rough. Didn't find mine. But, I found
about six others. So I came out ahead.


Draco

Getting even isn't good enough.



  
Date: 13 Oct 2006 10:22:00
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...
In article <1160752549.311297.298260@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >,
"Draco" <JPDFDA@HOTMAIL.COM > wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> > Living in the midwest, one of the things we get is the problem of losing
> > balls in the fairway during the fall. ( Well, in the spring too)
> >
> > Our course has plenty of trees and of course, this time of year, the
> > leaves are falling faster than the grounds crew can even hope to keep up
> > with them. Coupled with the way the sun lays in the sky, it isn't
> > uncommon at all to hit a ball right down the middle and still not be
> > able to find it.
> >
> > I've tried colored balls, with no luck. The white balls are as easy or
> > difficult to see as any of the colored balls.
> >
> > One technique that we use often is to walk past where we think the ball
> > should be and look back for it. This seems to work most often.
> >
> > Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
> > one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post scores
> > for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that, and it does
> > help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional when the
> > possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good option
> > because you would almost have to do that on each drive on every hole
> > except the par 3's.
> >
> > If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?
>
> Look for the dang thing. If not found then drop and play on.
> No loss of distance or stroke.
> Last year I played and on our 8th hole sliced
> it into some rough. Didn't find mine. But, I found
> about six others. So I came out ahead.
>
>
> Draco
>
Finding lost balls is fun. A couple of weekends ago, they had outings
both days. I played after each of those outings and found lots of
balls, most right on the cart paths!


   
Date: 16 Oct 2006 00:52:31
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:22:00 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:

>Finding lost balls is fun. A couple of weekends ago, they had outings
>both days. I played after each of those outings and found lots of
>balls, most right on the cart paths!

I really spend too much time finding lost balls - I need to spend more
time on the fairway.


 
Date: 13 Oct 2006 15:08:57
From: Kenny Stultz
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...
In article <lloydparsons-76C666.10035613102006@individual.net >,
lloydparsons@mac.com says...
>
>Living in the midwest, one of the things we get is the problem of losing
>balls in the fairway during the fall. ( Well, in the spring too)
>
>Our course has plenty of trees and of course, this time of year, the
>leaves are falling faster than the grounds crew can even hope to keep up
>with them. Coupled with the way the sun lays in the sky, it isn't
>uncommon at all to hit a ball right down the middle and still not be
>able to find it.
>
>I've tried colored balls, with no luck. The white balls are as easy or
>difficult to see as any of the colored balls.
>
>One technique that we use often is to walk past where we think the ball
>should be and look back for it. This seems to work most often.
>
>Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
>one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post scores
>for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that, and it does
>help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional when the
>possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good option
>because you would almost have to do that on each drive on every hole
>except the par 3's.
>
>If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?

Drop a ball and keep on playing. Like you say, the score's not getting posted
so most of time I don't even keep a scorecard.

Kenny

--
Kenny Stultz - Troll and SPAM intolerant
RSG Rollcall: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=stultzk
"Golf is the only sport where a precise knowledge of the Rules can
earn one a reputation for poor sportsmanship"



  
Date: 14 Oct 2006 11:00:38
From: A Brick In The Wall
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...

"Kenny Stultz" <stultz@wai.com > wrote in message
news:4p9og9Fhi8c3U1@individual.net...
> In article <lloydparsons-76C666.10035613102006@individual.net>,
> lloydparsons@mac.com says...
>>
>>Living in the midwest, one of the things we get is the problem of losing
>>balls in the fairway during the fall. ( Well, in the spring too)
>>
>>Our course has plenty of trees and of course, this time of year, the
>>leaves are falling faster than the grounds crew can even hope to keep up
>>with them. Coupled with the way the sun lays in the sky, it isn't
>>uncommon at all to hit a ball right down the middle and still not be
>>able to find it.
>>
>>I've tried colored balls, with no luck. The white balls are as easy or
>>difficult to see as any of the colored balls.
>>
>>One technique that we use often is to walk past where we think the ball
>>should be and look back for it. This seems to work most often.
>>
>>Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
>>one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post scores
>>for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that, and it does
>>help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional when the
>>possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good option
>>because you would almost have to do that on each drive on every hole
>>except the par 3's.
>>
>>If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?
>
> Drop a ball and keep on playing. Like you say, the score's not getting
> posted
> so most of time I don't even keep a scorecard.
>
> Kenny
>

We are still posting scores here in Northern Indiana --- and leaves are all
over the place....

Right or wrong --- we take no penalty if we know the ball is findable
without the leaves.

> --
> Kenny Stultz - Troll and SPAM intolerant
> RSG Rollcall: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=stultzk
> "Golf is the only sport where a precise knowledge of the Rules can
> earn one a reputation for poor sportsmanship"
>




  
Date: 14 Oct 2006 11:00:38
From: A Brick In The Wall
Subject: Re: Fall & fairway lost balls...

"Kenny Stultz" <stultz@wai.com > wrote in message
news:4p9og9Fhi8c3U1@individual.net...
> In article <lloydparsons-76C666.10035613102006@individual.net>,
> lloydparsons@mac.com says...
>>
>>Living in the midwest, one of the things we get is the problem of losing
>>balls in the fairway during the fall. ( Well, in the spring too)
>>
>>Our course has plenty of trees and of course, this time of year, the
>>leaves are falling faster than the grounds crew can even hope to keep up
>>with them. Coupled with the way the sun lays in the sky, it isn't
>>uncommon at all to hit a ball right down the middle and still not be
>>able to find it.
>>
>>I've tried colored balls, with no luck. The white balls are as easy or
>>difficult to see as any of the colored balls.
>>
>>One technique that we use often is to walk past where we think the ball
>>should be and look back for it. This seems to work most often.
>>
>>Consequently, for many groups, a winter rule is to take a drop with
>>one-stroke penalty, but no loss of distance. Since we don't post scores
>>for handicapping this time of year, it doesn't change that, and it does
>>help keep the pace of play good. Taking a provisional when the
>>possibility of losing the ball in the fairway isn't a good option
>>because you would almost have to do that on each drive on every hole
>>except the par 3's.
>>
>>If you have this problem on your course, what do you do about it?
>
> Drop a ball and keep on playing. Like you say, the score's not getting
> posted
> so most of time I don't even keep a scorecard.
>
> Kenny
>

We are still posting scores here in Northern Indiana --- and leaves are all
over the place....

Right or wrong --- we take no penalty if we know the ball is findable
without the leaves.

> --
> Kenny Stultz - Troll and SPAM intolerant
> RSG Rollcall: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=stultzk
> "Golf is the only sport where a precise knowledge of the Rules can
> earn one a reputation for poor sportsmanship"
>