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Date: 07 Sep 2006 09:43:16
From: harley
Subject: Equipment question
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Would like to start playing, but don't want to spend a fortune on a new
set of clubs. Thinking about going to a golf store and listening to
their ideas, then looking for a used set. So I need advice on what to
look for in a good starter set and where to buy it.
I sure you guys have some opinions...
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 11:16:23
From: pete z
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:08:30 -0400, David Geesaman
> <dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Spend a few hundred dollars for a complete used set.
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> Talk to anyone who is trying to make it to the pro tours and find out
> how many clubs he takes to tournaments. 14 clubs isn't a "complete
> set" for them - they pay good money for closer to 20 clubs which they
> learn to use.
Your point is? Pros pay good money? :-) Even the Nationwide pros
probably
get all their clubs, gloves, and balls free. And some get paid good
money to play them.
This is a beginner, not a pro. Six or seven clubs would be good enough
to
see if he enjoys the game.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 10:00:49
From:
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:08:30 -0400, David Geesaman
> <dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Spend a few hundred dollars for a complete used set.
>
> Talk to anyone who is trying to make it to the pro tours and find out
> how many clubs he takes to tournaments. 14 clubs isn't a "complete
> set" for them - they pay good money for closer to 20 clubs which they
> learn to use.
1) Howard, this person is a rank beginner. You won't buy tires based
on what compound Schumacher uses at Interlagos, so why should the club
collection of a semi-pro be anywhere near relevant? Everyone knows
that more clubs is rarely an signficant advantage. Ask Tin Cup.
2) Those pros' clubs are made from titanium, steel, and graphite just
like everyone else's. If you sold those clubs used just without the
'feature' of being a used pro's club, it would fetch the kind of prices
I'm talking about.
So add a few hundred more for the extra 6 clubs and my point stands.
Dave
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 17:01:49
From: pete z
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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John B. wrote:
> harley wrote:
> > Would like to start playing, but don't want to spend a fortune on a new
> > set of clubs. Thinking about going to a golf store and listening to
> > their ideas, then looking for a used set. So I need advice on what to
> > look for in a good starter set and where to buy it.
> > I sure you guys have some opinions...
>
>
> This strikes me as an excellent deal on a very good starter set. I have
> no affiliation with Rock Bottom Golf, but I have bought clubs from them
> and will again, I'm sure.
> http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/04ramgfcboxmrh.html
I had never used this site, but that is a good price for a complete
starter set-the Tommy Armour set looks great for a beginner, at 139.95.
That's less than it cost me to make my set of 8 irons. The quality of
my irons is probably better though. :-)
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 18:08:30
From: David Geesaman
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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harley wrote:
> Would like to start playing, but don't want to spend a fortune on a new
> set of clubs. Thinking about going to a golf store and listening to
> their ideas, then looking for a used set. So I need advice on what to
> look for in a good starter set and where to buy it.
> I sure you guys have some opinions...
Spend a few hundred dollars for a complete used set. It may be useful
to get an idea if your fledgling swing 'fits' the industry standards,
but when your swing is so new you can alter your swing to fit the clubs
a little bit. After you get a bit of a swing together thru your
lessons, spend a lesson on a clubfitting and buy another set. If you
have disposable money, or a penchant for toys, buy a new set to your
fitted specs. Otherwise, buy another used set that matches your fitting
specs.
In any case, 2-5 year old clubs in good condition and a brand new set
of grips (regrip any used clubs you buy), will play as well as any
full-priced clubs in the retail store. Once you get among good
experienced golfers, you may find that they judge brand new gear to
indicate a wannabe golfer who spends more time picking gear than
practicing. In very many cases, they are right - very good players
seldom change their clubs much.
Dave
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 00:25:33
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:08:30 -0400, David Geesaman
<dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Spend a few hundred dollars for a complete used set.
Talk to anyone who is trying to make it to the pro tours and find out
how many clubs he takes to tournaments. 14 clubs isn't a "complete
set" for them - they pay good money for closer to 20 clubs which they
learn to use.
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 18:28:32
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:uvd1g25katojv5v749ei5gmid4iukj123i@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:08:30 -0400, David Geesaman
> <dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Spend a few hundred dollars for a complete used set.
>
> Talk to anyone who is trying to make it to the pro tours and find out
> how many clubs he takes to tournaments. 14 clubs isn't a "complete
> set" for them - they pay good money for closer to 20 clubs which they
> learn to use.
Howard, almost all golfers on the pro tours get clubs and balls for free.
Even the ones at the bottom of the money list.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 02:01:30
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:28:32 -0600, "k A" <nobody@nowhere.com >
wrote:
>> Talk to anyone who is trying to make it to the pro tours and find out
>> how many clubs he takes to tournaments. 14 clubs isn't a "complete
>> set" for them - they pay good money for closer to 20 clubs which they
>> learn to use.
>
>Howard, almost all golfers on the pro tours get clubs and balls for free.
>Even the ones at the bottom of the money list.
That's why I mentioned the person who is trying to make it to those
tours. It's their own buck, and they want enough clubs.
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 15:36:29
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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Forget retail.
Craigslist for the city nearest you and buy a used set. Search the for sale
section for "golf clubs" or any other iteration.
You should be able to get the whole works, everything you need including
shoes, gloves, balls and tees for under a 100 bucks. Whether or not the
shoes or gloves fit you will depend on the size of the person you are buying
from.
Garage sales are also good and you might be able to pick up a set for under
$50.
If you are a lefty, the pickings are thinner but patience there is also
rewarded.
Hth.
Otto
"harley" <bcodom@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1157647396.307064.241210@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Would like to start playing, but don't want to spend a fortune on a new
> set of clubs. Thinking about going to a golf store and listening to
> their ideas, then looking for a used set. So I need advice on what to
> look for in a good starter set and where to buy it.
> I sure you guys have some opinions...
>
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 12:18:05
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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harley wrote:
> Would like to start playing, but don't want to spend a fortune on a new
> set of clubs. Thinking about going to a golf store and listening to
> their ideas, then looking for a used set. So I need advice on what to
> look for in a good starter set and where to buy it.
> I sure you guys have some opinions...
This strikes me as an excellent deal on a very good starter set. I have
no affiliation with Rock Bottom Golf, but I have bought clubs from them
and will again, I'm sure.
http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/04ramgfcboxmrh.html
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 12:06:13
From: pete z
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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harley wrote:
> Would like to start playing, but don't want to spend a fortune on a new
> set of clubs. Thinking about going to a golf store and listening to
> their ideas, then looking for a used set. So I need advice on what to
> look for in a good starter set and where to buy it.
> I sure you guys have some opinions...
If I were in your position, I would try www.gigagolf.com. They have
fitting software,
and a decent set, with putter, and two woods should not run more than
300 bucks.
Also, Dick's has a decent starter set, bag included, for under 200. To
start, though,
you really don't need much more than a 3-wood, 5,7,9, w, putter, and a
small carry
bag. I still practice with this makeup, and have shot some of my best
rounds this
year with just these clubs. To find something like this, use Ebay.
Better yet, email me at pz0326@aol.com. I have a couple of sets of
irons, one almost
new, one used about 5 years, and other clubs I could give you a good
price on, since they are just gathering dust.
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 12:22:44
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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"harley" <bcodom@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1157647396.307064.241210@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Would like to start playing, but don't want to spend a fortune on a new
> set of clubs. Thinking about going to a golf store and listening to
> their ideas, then looking for a used set. So I need advice on what to
> look for in a good starter set and where to buy it.
> I sure you guys have some opinions...
>
These are much, much better clubs than you can find in an all-in-one set
and on-sale for only $180 (add to cart to see the price). You will need to
add a putter and a driver and 3-metal (or rescue cub). It will take you
awhile to learn how to hit a driver and fairway metal, so I would get
something used on eBay or a garage sale for these.
http://www.tgw.com/customer/category/product.jsp?SUBCATEGORY_ID=7024
Unfortunately, I see they are out of stock on these and back-ordered,
probably because I posted this link about a week ago. You might call them to
see if when will get some more stock.
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 10:44:40
From: cja
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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harley wrote:
> Would like to start playing, but don't want to spend a fortune on a new
> set of clubs. Thinking about going to a golf store and listening to
> their ideas, then looking for a used set. So I need advice on what to
> look for in a good starter set and where to buy it.
> I sure you guys have some opinions...
>
You can go off the shelf and onto the course for $139.99:
http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/04ramgfcboxmrh.html
Includes putter and bag. I think this is decent equipment for a
beginner. The risk you take with off-the-shelf clubs is that they might
not be right for you. You can get fitted for clubs, but it sounds like
you might not be ready for that. Unless you are very short or very
tall, your arms are an unusual length, or you are extraordinarily
strong or weak, starting with a set like I pointed to above should work
ok.
(Other than being a satisfied customer, I have no affiliation with Rock
Bottom Golf.)
- cja
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 00:30:52
From: Michael Pearson
Subject: Re: Equipment question
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"cja" <cja@excite.com > wrote in message
news:1157651080.650399.45810@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> harley wrote:
>
>> Would like to start playing, but don't want to spend a fortune on a new
>> set of clubs. Thinking about going to a golf store and listening to
>> their ideas, then looking for a used set. So I need advice on what to
>> look for in a good starter set and where to buy it.
>> I sure you guys have some opinions...
>>
> You can go off the shelf and onto the course for $139.99:
>
> http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/04ramgfcboxmrh.html
>
I bought a set of these about a year ago. The woods had a serious slice
when new, which is only going away with more frequent use. The putter is
inaccurate and tends to leave putts embarrassingly short, but those issues
are similarly beginning to improve with wear.
Seriously, though, I almost brained my father in law with the head of my 6
iron (He waits for me to hit now). I don't know if the inadequate epoxy is
a problem with the manufacture, or just the one club, but there it is.
In a similar vein, would anybody care to share their opinion on wedges to
augment such a set? Testimonials for certain manufacturers and products or
generic info would be great. I'm thinking something with lots of loft (56),
then filling back towards the PW. Or if anyone wants to share a strong
opinion about other clubs that should be a priority, I'm listening.
Thanks
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