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Date: 30 Aug 2006 12:21:04
From: Ersatz
Subject: Chipping with a PW

Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
pin.
All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
and gauge distance.
Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
centre, rock shoulders.
Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
with it?
Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
Roger

Date: 02 Sep 2006 11:12:46
From:
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

EdSmithers wrote:
> Ersatz wrote:
>
> > Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
> > with it?
> > Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
> > Roger
>
>
> I must confess I'm a regular 9i chipper. Like you, I focused on
> learning one club really well, and for me, the 9 works best. The PW
> pops up more than I want, for example, but that's just me. So I started
> chipping everything with the 9 from about 80 yards in, and just got
> used to laying it off, closing it, different backswings, etc., to get
> the different shots I wanted. I don't play a great deal, and of course
> I should probably "TAKE A LESSON," but for me, it was an elegant and
> simple solution to a spotty short game.
>
> Now, when I have the 9 in my hand, I feel quite confident. While I
> don't have the flexibility of someone who has 4 wedges, I do have more
> confidence than I once did.
>
> My scores went from the high 90s to the low 80s over the past year, and
> I attributed about half of that improvement to chipping and its
> benefits.
>
> Ed

After many years of chipping with an 8 iron (fly 1/3 will roll 2/3) in
the last season or 2 I have gone to 9 iron. To me its kind od like
hearing the Aussie saying its "smooth like a gravy sandwich", (boy
could I slug a few of those down now)! Depending on the circumstance I
take my old "ping eye" 58% SW, or another oldish club . Its my Mizuno
pro tour model 52% wedge. It is forged and while not a big rollerit
will roll more then the cast ping.Sometimes due to the lie and equation
abouve I will chip with the 8 iron.
IMHO you should get comfortable with a club/shot that works for you.
while on the topic I will tell you one on my personal favorites is when
I am sitting with a good lie 40-70 yards from a green and have to hit
eithor the sw or pw with an open face to fly it in without much roll.
when executed this is a very rewarding shot.

Date: 02 Sep 2006 03:10:00
From:
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

>GOD didn't get it right when he made young flexible in shape men, who
cannot
play much golf because they have families and jobs and
responsibilities,
but then lets us, (men) have more time, disposable income, and golf
course residency when we're older, larger, less flexible, and find it
much harder to improve

Look at it this way, it evens things out doesn't it? The youngsters
don't have as much time to practice so they need the extra physical
attributes to go out there more part time and do well. While the older
fellows get to rely on the experience and more leisure time to play.

Wow, I'd love to live on a golf course, that would rock. Do people who
live on golf courses get any special perks, like discounts or free play
or anything?

Date: 02 Sep 2006 07:29:57
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

iarwain_8@hotmail.com wrote:
> >GOD didn't get it right when he made young flexible in shape men, who
> cannot
> play much golf because they have families and jobs and
> responsibilities,
> but then lets us, (men) have more time, disposable income, and golf
> course residency when we're older, larger, less flexible, and find it
> much harder to improve
>
> Look at it this way, it evens things out doesn't it? The youngsters
> don't have as much time to practice so they need the extra physical
> attributes to go out there more part time and do well. While the older
> fellows get to rely on the experience and more leisure time to play.
>
> Wow, I'd love to live on a golf course, that would rock. Do people who
> live on golf courses get any special perks, like discounts or free play
> or anything?
>

have you ever heard the saying "there is no such thing as a free lunch".
Well, it applies to golf course residency also. I actually live across
the street from the golf course in Par Ridge on Birdie Lane :) I'm
looking out my office window at the 12th tee as we "speak"...This golf
course has a very reasonable annual fee for unlimited golf plus I pay a
trail fee for my golf cart but they don't give anything away free to
anyone...The greatest thing about being here is I get to practice every
day and it doesn't take any commute time :)

btw, I think that GOD got life backwards. You should be born retired
with lots of disposable income. You then should live life backwards,
working for a living late into life until you start slobbering and
drooling, then it's over...
Dave

Date: 01 Sep 2006 00:05:14
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

I'll chip with anything, depending on what the shot calls for.

Randy

"Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com > wrote in message
news:1156965663.936805.58720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
> will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
> Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
> pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
> pin.
> All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
> and gauge distance.
> Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
> centre, rock shoulders.
> Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
> with it?
> Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
> Roger
>

Date: 31 Aug 2006 22:47:39
From: Tom K
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

A few scratch golfers at work (one who shot 66 in a tourney last year) use 9
irons instead for chipping. I've started it myself. Seems more forgiving
than a W. Easier to control/judge distance than with an 8I (what I used to
use frequently).

Give the 9I a shot.

--Tom

"Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com > wrote in message
news:1156965663.936805.58720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
> will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
> Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
> pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
> pin.
> All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
> and gauge distance.
> Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
> centre, rock shoulders.
> Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
> with it?
> Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
> Roger
>

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Date: 31 Aug 2006 09:45:07
From: Ersatz
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Zuke wrote:
> What the hell are you thinking about rocking your shoulders
> when you are pitching? That sounds like a recipe for disaster.
> Practice until all you think about is where you want the ball
> to land. Yes, practicing your pitching is going to keep you
> under 100, even under 80 if you keep at it.
>

Rocking of the shoulders refers to the chipping stroke, mimicing a
putting stroke.
With pitching I use a conventional swing with an open stance.
Roger

Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:40:08
From: uncle k
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

"Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com > wrote in message
news:1156965663.936805.58720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
> will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
> Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
> pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
> pin.
> All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
> and gauge distance.
> Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
> centre, rock shoulders.
> Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
> with it?
> Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
> Roger
>

Me cave man..... me always chip with PW.

Unc

Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:11:15
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:40:08 GMT, "uncle k" <no_spam@all.com > wrote:

>
>Me cave man..... me always chip with PW.

I do most of my practice with a PW, but sometimes adjust to my AW to
change the trajectory a bit with the same swing.

Lately, I have been expanding the number of clubs I use chipping
though.

Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:35:34
From: David
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

On 30 Aug 2006 12:21:04 -0700, "Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com > wrote:

>Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
>will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
>Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
>pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
>pin.
>All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
>and gauge distance.
>Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
>centre, rock shoulders.
>Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
>with it?
>Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)

Practicing your short game is a sure way to getting your score down.
I would not consider shots from 80 yards out to be chops, though.
Normally, I would consider chipping to be around the green.

From the fringe and a clear line to the hole, I always use a putter.
I would not rely on a single club for the short game. If I am 80
yards out with the hole cut in the back of a long green, I will tend
to pull out an 8 iron and let the ball run up to the pin. Trying to
stick a SW close is more difficult.

If I have to pitch the ball over a bunker, then I use a sand wedge
and hit flop shot, if the pin is cut close. The point is, there are
situations that need to be worked out before the club is selected.
Relying on one club for everything is not the answer.

If you really want to improve your scores, practice your putting
everyday for an hour. After a while, you will develop the attitude
that you can make putts from anywhere on the green and this will
reduce the stress that you may put on yourself with the short game and
the result will be improvements in both areas of your game.

>Roger

David

Date: 31 Aug 2006 01:57:03
From: Zuke
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

What the hell are you thinking about rocking your shoulders
when you are pitching? That sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Practice until all you think about is where you want the ball
to land. Yes, practicing your pitching is going to keep you
under 100, even under 80 if you keep at it.

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Ersatz wrote:

> Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
> will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
> Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
> pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
> pin.
> All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
> and gauge distance.
> Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
> centre, rock shoulders.
> Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
> with it?
> Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
> Roger
>
>

Date: 31 Aug 2006 05:05:24
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

In article <1156965663.936805.58720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
"Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com > wrote:

> Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
> will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
> Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
> pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
> pin.
> All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
> and gauge distance.
> Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
> centre, rock shoulders.
> Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
> with it?
> Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
> Roger

I chip with my 52 degree Cleveland and I am accounted a pretty good
chipper.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

Date: 31 Aug 2006 01:00:47
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Date: 30 Aug 2006 18:25:28
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Dave Lee wrote:
> "Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com> wrote in message
> news:1156965663.936805.58720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
>>will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
>>Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
>>pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
>>pin.
>>All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
>>and gauge distance.
>>Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
>>centre, rock shoulders.
>>Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
>>with it?
>>Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
>>Roger
>>
>
>
> I chip exclusively with PW/SW/LW. However I play on courses with closely
> mowed fringes, so end up using a putter on many shots where others would use
> a lower lofted iron.
>
> dave
>
>

have you tried a hybrid club for those long "putts" yet? Takes a little
practice to get used to the distance control but once you do it's a
great little short game shot...
Dave

Date: 31 Aug 2006 01:44:06
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
news:5UqJg.820$nN4.568@newsfe07.lga...
> Dave Lee wrote:
> > "Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com> wrote in message
> > news:1156965663.936805.58720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >>Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
> >>will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
> >>Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
> >>pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
> >>pin.
> >>All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
> >>and gauge distance.
> >>Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
> >>centre, rock shoulders.
> >>Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
> >>with it?
> >>Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
> >>Roger
> >>
> >
> >
> > I chip exclusively with PW/SW/LW. However I play on courses with closely
> > mowed fringes, so end up using a putter on many shots where others would
use
> > a lower lofted iron.
> >
> > dave
> >
> >
>
> have you tried a hybrid club for those long "putts" yet? Takes a little
> practice to get used to the distance control but once you do it's a
> great little short game shot...
> Dave

Worked on it a little bit and decided that I just preferred my putter for
those shots. Maybe if I'd worked on it a little more....

dave

Date: 31 Aug 2006 07:05:07
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Dave Lee wrote:
> "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> news:5UqJg.820$nN4.568@newsfe07.lga...
>
>>Dave Lee wrote:
>>
>>>"Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1156965663.936805.58720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
>>>>will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
>>>>Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
>>>>pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
>>>>pin.
>>>>All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
>>>>and gauge distance.
>>>>Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
>>>>centre, rock shoulders.
>>>>Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
>>>>with it?
>>>>Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
>>>>Roger
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I chip exclusively with PW/SW/LW. However I play on courses with closely
>>>mowed fringes, so end up using a putter on many shots where others would
>
> use
>
>>>a lower lofted iron.
>>>
>>>dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>>have you tried a hybrid club for those long "putts" yet? Takes a little
>>practice to get used to the distance control but once you do it's a
>>great little short game shot...
>>Dave
>
>
> Worked on it a little bit and decided that I just preferred my putter for
> those shots. Maybe if I'd worked on it a little more....
>
> dave
>
>

it took my almost a year of playing with it during practice to finally
have the balls to try it on the golf course. It's just like a putt but
on steroids :)
Dave

--
Dave
You are meant to play the ball as it lies, a fact that may help to touch
on your own objective approach to life. ~Grantland Rice

Date: 31 Aug 2006 20:55:15
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
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> Dave Lee wrote:
> > "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> > news:5UqJg.820$nN4.568@newsfe07.lga...
> >
> >>Dave Lee wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:1156965663.936805.58720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >>>
> >>>
snip
> >>have you tried a hybrid club for those long "putts" yet? Takes a little
> >>practice to get used to the distance control but once you do it's a
> >>great little short game shot...
> >>Dave
> >
> >
> > Worked on it a little bit and decided that I just preferred my putter
for
> > those shots. Maybe if I'd worked on it a little more....
> >
> > dave
> >
> >
>
> it took my almost a year of playing with it during practice to finally
> have the balls to try it on the golf course. It's just like a putt but
> on steroids :)
> Dave
>
snip

Man, I thought that I was something of a practice hound. Not long ago I
spent (what I thought was) a fair amount of time with a long putter. That
was 4-5 weeks on the practice green - a far cry from a year.

A year is a really long time. But if it takes Tiger a year or more to
develop a new swing, maybe I'm just impatient.

dave

Date: 31 Aug 2006 19:05:23
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Dave Lee wrote:
> snip
>
>>>>have you tried a hybrid club for those long "putts" yet? Takes a little
>>>>practice to get used to the distance control but once you do it's a
>>>>great little short game shot...
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>Worked on it a little bit and decided that I just preferred my putter
>
> for
>
>>>those shots. Maybe if I'd worked on it a little more....
>>>
>>>dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>>it took my almost a year of playing with it during practice to finally
>>have the balls to try it on the golf course. It's just like a putt but
>>on steroids :)
>>Dave
>>
>
> snip
>
> Man, I thought that I was something of a practice hound. Not long ago I
> spent (what I thought was) a fair amount of time with a long putter. That
> was 4-5 weeks on the practice green - a far cry from a year.
>
> A year is a really long time. But if it takes Tiger a year or more to
> develop a new swing, maybe I'm just impatient.
>
> dave
>
>

heh! I live at the golf course and practice every day, even before or
most often after I play golf. So that makes the "year" even longer. GOD
didn't get it right when he made young flexible in shape men, who cannot
play much golf because they have families and jobs and responsibilities,
but then lets us, (men) have more time, disposable income, and golf
course residency when we're older, larger, less flexible, and find it
much harder to improve. I'm pissed...I really am...but, I keep
practicing anyway :)
Dave

Date: 30 Aug 2006 16:34:17
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Ersatz wrote:
> Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
> will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
> Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
> pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
> pin.
> All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
> and gauge distance.

The fact that you're having trouble making good contact will make it
nearly impossible to gauge distance.

Date: 30 Aug 2006 17:01:19
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Larry Bud wrote:
> Ersatz wrote:
>
>>Decided to try to use the PW only from 80yds in and hoping to that it
>>will grow on me, and simplify the short game.
>>Did an hours practice around one of our greens last night, standard
>>pitch for most shots, open the blade for over bunkers and tight to the
>>pin.
>>All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
>>and gauge distance.
>
>
> The fact that you're having trouble making good contact will make it
> nearly impossible to gauge distance.
>

agreed! I use a PW for almost all shots from 110yds to about 70 yds
unless I have to hit something high over a bunker or some such. But I
practice these shots almost every day. I find it difficult to maintain a
constant trajectory with a sand or lob wedge from outside 70 yds. But
with my PW I can stick em close most all of the time
Dave

Date: 30 Aug 2006 14:32:55
From: EdSmithers
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Ersatz wrote:

> Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
> with it?
> Will it be a key to keeping under 100 :0)
> Roger

I must confess I'm a regular 9i chipper. Like you, I focused on
learning one club really well, and for me, the 9 works best. The PW
pops up more than I want, for example, but that's just me. So I started
chipping everything with the 9 from about 80 yards in, and just got
used to laying it off, closing it, different backswings, etc., to get
the different shots I wanted. I don't play a great deal, and of course
I should probably "TAKE A LESSON," but for me, it was an elegant and
simple solution to a spotty short game.

Now, when I have the 9 in my hand, I feel quite confident. While I
don't have the flexibility of someone who has 4 wedges, I do have more
confidence than I once did.

My scores went from the high 90s to the low 80s over the past year, and
I attributed about half of that improvement to chipping and its
benefits.

Ed

Date: 02 Sep 2006 11:42:09
From: Tranny
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Date: 02 Sep 2006 13:02:04
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

On 2 Sep 2006 11:42:09 +0200, Tranny <tranny@notrolll.com > wrote:

>
>Ed, you are confusing chipping with pitching - you can't chip from 80 yds.

I'm curious - If a bump and run is made with a chipping motion, would
that be a chip?

Date: 02 Sep 2006 11:40:34
From: Dave Clary
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 13:02:04 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:

>On 2 Sep 2006 11:42:09 +0200, Tranny <tranny@notrolll.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Ed, you are confusing chipping with pitching - you can't chip from 80 yds.
>
>
>I'm curious - If a bump and run is made with a chipping motion, would
>that be a chip?

No, that would be a bump and run.

Date: 02 Sep 2006 10:55:03
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Dave Clary wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 13:02:04 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>On 2 Sep 2006 11:42:09 +0200, Tranny <tranny@notrolll.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ed, you are confusing chipping with pitching - you can't chip from 80 yds.
>>
>>
>>I'm curious - If a bump and run is made with a chipping motion, would
>>that be a chip?
>
>
> No, that would be a bump and run.

LOL! I tried to come up with some mundane answer to that stupid question
but gave up...nice one Dave!
:)

Date: 02 Sep 2006 09:08:02
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

I've always considered a chip to be from the fringe surrounding the green.

Otto

"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:kvvif2pnhusg68rpdce0vl70o7j6bvv8be@4ax.com...

> I'm curious - If a bump and run is made with a chipping motion, would
> that be a chip?

Date: 30 Aug 2006 14:29:10
From: Ersatz
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Otto wrote:
> Dave Pelz recommends lowest loft possible for chipping.
>
> Lowest loft possible is defined by how much green you have to work with.
>
> Idea behind lowest loft possible is by getting the ball on the ground and
> rolling as early as possible, your clusters will be tigher to the pin.
>
> He has all sorts of research to support it.
>
> 7 is fine off the fringe but you might experiment with even a 6, 5 or 4
> iron. Of course, you need the room to run the ball and it won't work if you
> short side yourself.
>
> In the end, find what works for you, figure out your roll percentage(ie 1
> part air, 3 parts roll) for a normal flat green, then adjust accordingly.
>
> Pick a spot and hit to it.
>
> Consistent strike, crispness, and trajectory are the key.
>
> You might even pick a 7 as your base club and then go to a 6 if you have an
> uphill lie or an 8 on a downhill lie to achieve a consistent trajectory.
>
> Or adjust your landing spot.
>
> This type of personalizing your short game and finding what works for you
> will easily get you below 100. If you are shooting over 100, you have a lot
> of up and down situations from the fringe on every round that you are
> missing and you will see the strokes melt away with just a little organized
> practice.
>
> As you practice your chipping, consider putting 4 tees around the hole at
> 8'. You want inside that ring.
>
> Hth.
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> Otto
>
Thanks Otto, my best round was 92 but hovers around 103. Even when the
driver etc is going well the last 100yds are the score killer.
Will put the '4 tees' drill into effect next time out.
Roger

Date: 30 Aug 2006 17:55:44
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

If you are putting the ball in play off the tee then you are losing most of
your strokes around the green.

You might consider one of Dave Pelz's short game books. In addition to
chipping, he has some great instruction for wedge play and putting.

You can probably get one through your local public library.

Either that or stop by Borders or Barnes and Nobles and have a latte.

A few hours with the book and you will have all the notes you need.

Then all you have to do is organize a little practice time and you'll see
the strokes fall off.

2/3 + of the score is inside 100 yards. That's less than 1800 yards of the
course. The other 5000 plus yards count for less than a third.

Otto

"Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com > wrote in message
news:1156973350.664974.150570@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks Otto, my best round was 92 but hovers around 103. Even when the
> driver etc is going well the last 100yds are the score killer.
> Will put the '4 tees' drill into effect next time out.
> Roger
>

Date: 30 Aug 2006 16:41:56
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW

Dave Pelz recommends lowest loft possible for chipping.

Lowest loft possible is defined by how much green you have to work with.

Idea behind lowest loft possible is by getting the ball on the ground and
rolling as early as possible, your clusters will be tigher to the pin.

He has all sorts of research to support it.

7 is fine off the fringe but you might experiment with even a 6, 5 or 4
iron. Of course, you need the room to run the ball and it won't work if you
short side yourself.

In the end, find what works for you, figure out your roll percentage(ie 1
part air, 3 parts roll) for a normal flat green, then adjust accordingly.

Pick a spot and hit to it.

Consistent strike, crispness, and trajectory are the key.

You might even pick a 7 as your base club and then go to a 6 if you have an
uphill lie or an 8 on a downhill lie to achieve a consistent trajectory.

Or adjust your landing spot.

This type of personalizing your short game and finding what works for you
will easily get you below 100. If you are shooting over 100, you have a lot
of up and down situations from the fringe on every round that you are
missing and you will see the strokes melt away with just a little organized
practice.

As you practice your chipping, consider putting 4 tees around the hole at
8'. You want inside that ring.

Hth.

Otto

"Ersatz" <rog@repairman.com > wrote in message
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> All well and good apart from chipping, difficult to get good contact
> and gauge distance.
> Usual chipping tool is a 7 iron, open stance, weight forward, ball
> centre, rock shoulders.
> Anyone use a pw for chipping, is it worth the effort to get proficient
> with it?

Date: 30 Aug 2006 19:53:44
From: Hi Ho Silver
Subject: Re: Chipping with a PW