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Date: 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
"resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
About the only thing I watch on it now is some of the Euro Tour stuff.
Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 20:01:12
From: multi
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net >
wrote:
>Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
>too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
>though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
At least with TGC, the golf coverage won't start late because the last
five minutes of a B-ball game takes half an hour, and it won't be
pre-empted for "breaking news" about a runaway bride or the like.
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 23:44:31
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"multi" <multi@asm.org > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net>
> wrote:
>>Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
>>too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
>>though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
>
> At least with TGC, the golf coverage won't start late because the last
> five minutes of a B-ball game takes half an hour, and it won't be
> pre-empted for "breaking news" about a runaway bride or the like.
You've got a point there.
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 05:23:50
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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multi wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net>
> wrote:
> >Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
> >too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
> >though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
>
> At least with TGC, the golf coverage won't start late because the last
> five minutes of a B-ball game takes half an hour, and it won't be
> pre-empted for "breaking news" about a runaway bride or the like.
Ain't that the truth! I still remember them cutting away to watch the ocean
where JFK Jr.s plane crashed into. Gripping TV!
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 08:28:41
From: multi
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:23:50 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net >
wrote:
>
>
>multi wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net>
>> wrote:
>> >Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
>> >too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
>> >though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
>>
>> At least with TGC, the golf coverage won't start late because the last
>> five minutes of a B-ball game takes half an hour, and it won't be
>> pre-empted for "breaking news" about a runaway bride or the like.
>
>Ain't that the truth! I still remember them cutting away to watch the ocean
>where JFK Jr.s plane crashed into. Gripping TV!
Yup, my favorite. 3 days of, "Still haven't found him."
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 09:36:33
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Obviously, I've never played with you.
I never said I drink while playing, BTW, although I have had
a beer from time to time. But drinking and golf go back to
the very roots. Those Scotch shepards always had a flask
along with them. For you to say that golf is somehow "better" than
other sports when it comes to alcohol is simply ludicrous.
So go enjoy, yourself.
On Dec 15, 1:10 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com >
wrote:
> We're in a different foursome. Enjoy.
>
> "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1166165652.679124.227090@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 14, 10:52 am, "AKA gray asphalt"
> > <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get away
> >> with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least the
> >> first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most sports
> >> in
> >> our goals to promote family life and support kids.
>
> > Huh? Is that in the rules of golf? I don't know where you are getting
> > that.
> > I've seen a lot more drinking on the golf course than just about any
> > other
> > sport, with the possible exceptions of bowling and slow pitch.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 17:49:26
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Enjoy too.
"Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166290592.998364.28730@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
> Obviously, I've never played with you.
>
> I never said I drink while playing, BTW, although I have had
> a beer from time to time. But drinking and golf go back to
> the very roots. Those Scotch shepards always had a flask
> along with them. For you to say that golf is somehow "better" than
> other sports when it comes to alcohol is simply ludicrous.
>
> So go enjoy, yourself.
>
> On Dec 15, 1:10 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com>
> wrote:
>> We're in a different foursome. Enjoy.
>>
>> "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1166165652.679124.227090@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 14, 10:52 am, "AKA gray asphalt"
>> > <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get
>> >> away
>> >> with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least
>> >> the
>> >> first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most
>> >> sports
>> >> in
>> >> our goals to promote family life and support kids.
>>
>> > Huh? Is that in the rules of golf? I don't know where you are getting
>> > that.
>> > I've seen a lot more drinking on the golf course than just about any
>> > other
>> > sport, with the possible exceptions of bowling and slow pitch.- Hide
>> > quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 05:27:35
From: Gordo
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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David Laville wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:27:09 -0500, "George Hibbard"
> <gh@perfectimpact.com> wrote:
>
> >It's hard to listen to someone say "that's a nice shot" all the time... or
> >to stomach the hype often attached. SOME of the commentary is GREAT. I
> >have to mute a ton....
>
> In my opinion the hype is worst today.
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
Waaay worse today. Most of the commentators (esp. Clampett) can tell
you what kind of corn had for lunch since he's got his head so far up
Tiger's backside that it's in his colon!
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 22:54:12
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Dec 14, 10:52 am, "AKA gray asphalt"
<goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:
> Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get away
> with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least the
> first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most sports in
> our goals to promote family life and support kids.
Huh? Is that in the rules of golf? I don't know where you are getting
that.
I've seen a lot more drinking on the golf course than just about any
other
sport, with the possible exceptions of bowling and slow pitch.
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 11:10:28
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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We're in a different foursome. Enjoy.
"Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166165652.679124.227090@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> On Dec 14, 10:52 am, "AKA gray asphalt"
> <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get away
>> with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least the
>> first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most sports
>> in
>> our goals to promote family life and support kids.
>
> Huh? Is that in the rules of golf? I don't know where you are getting
> that.
> I've seen a lot more drinking on the golf course than just about any
> other
> sport, with the possible exceptions of bowling and slow pitch.
>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 22:48:40
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Dec 14, 6:08 pm, "Steve S" <n...@fughettaboutit.com > wrote:
> "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1166084577.796161.197520@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I miss Peter Kessler, but there's a valuable life lesson on how
> > NOT to manage your boss. Along the same lines as Jimmy Johnson
> > and Jerry Jones.Looks like Jimmie made out just fine.
He did OK, but he could have done much better.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 08:57:40
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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AKA gray asphalt wrote:
> Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get away
> with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least the
> first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most sports in
> our goals to promote family life and support kids.
>
I guess they are just too effective The thought that if you drink Grey
Goose, you can be just like Deumig is just too appealing to consumers!
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 00:22:57
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Dec 9, 9:37 pm, Robert Hamilton <D...@att.net > wrote:
> I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
I miss Peter Kessler, but there's a valuable life lesson on how
NOT to manage your boss. Along the same lines as Jimmy Johnson
and Jerry Jones.
The BB shows I find pathetic. Mediocre golf at best. Double-bogey
wins the hole? And these people think they can play pro golf?
Still, I do find myself watching TGC every once in a while. But
not nearly as much as before.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 19:08:54
From: Steve S
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166084577.796161.197520@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
> I miss Peter Kessler, but there's a valuable life lesson on how
> NOT to manage your boss. Along the same lines as Jimmy Johnson
> and Jerry Jones.
>
Looks like Jimmie made out just fine.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 08:53:58
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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I like BB because you get to know the players a little bit.
"Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166084577.796161.197520@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> On Dec 9, 9:37 pm, Robert Hamilton <D...@att.net> wrote:
>> I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
>> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
>
> I miss Peter Kessler, but there's a valuable life lesson on how
> NOT to manage your boss. Along the same lines as Jimmy Johnson
> and Jerry Jones.
>
> The BB shows I find pathetic. Mediocre golf at best. Double-bogey
> wins the hole? And these people think they can play pro golf?
>
> Still, I do find myself watching TGC every once in a while. But
> not nearly as much as before.
>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 00:45:12
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote ...
>I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
> These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
> show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
> What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
> worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
> OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
> "resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
>
> About the only thing I watch on it now is some of the Euro Tour stuff.
> Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
> too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
> though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
I hardly ever watch it anymore.
Randy
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 11:59:00
From:
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Kind of difficult to pick any sports coverage that doesn't have some
sort of adult beverage advertisements.
AKA gray asphalt wrote:
> You reminded me of another 'great' thing about TGC ... there choice to
> present the golfing kids with alcohol advertisements. A real contribution to
> society.
>
> <cmsturg@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165940924.899432.252190@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> >I really enjoy TGC. BB used to be my favorite show; however the last
> > few incarnations have not really excited me too much. (In fact I missed
> > most of this last season). I wish they would show more of the Bobby
> > Jones Golf Instruction "movies". Those are very interesting and still
> > applicable today. Other shows I don't turn off, Grey Goose 19th hole
> > and Golf Central. I am really looking forward to next year. Being able
> > to see 1 and 2 round coverage in the evenings is going to be great. I
> > always wondered why TGC didn't license the 1 & 2 round coverage's
> > for replay in the evenings...
> >
> >
> > On Dec 12, 3:03 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com>
> > wrote:
> >> First they had Tiger night, then they stopped it. Then they had "the
> >> troubleshooters" which they stopped or changed. They had "The Daly Word"
> >> or
> >> "The World according to John Daly" whatever, which I liked but it got
> >> canceled, I guess. You never what's going to be on the schedule the next
> >> month. The one sure thing is that the commercial blocks went from an hour
> >> and a half to two hours.
> >>
> >> I like Big Break, even with Donald Trump and his fake ego.
> >>
> >> The Golf Channel theme song drives me crazy... can't they take the canned
> >> midi music and at least add an instrument or change one?
> >>
> >> My biggest gripe is that they are too _________ to let the players play a
> >> practice round on the BB course. A lot of the time they are guessing
> >> where
> >> the hazzards off the tee are. What kind of contest is that?
> >>
> >> Why play "Golf Central" four times in a row? Don't they think people
> >> watch
> >> for more than a half an hour at a time in the wee hours? It's nice to see
> >> LPGA events, though. And if they could promote some local tournaments for
> >> a
> >> big deal national tournament for us wannabee seniors ... for a spot in a
> >> Champions Tournament it would add a lot on interest.
> >>
> >> At least they don't mention "Ipod" every 5 minutes, like every other
> >> channel. I guess they can't get the product placement money.
> >
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 08:52:16
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get away
with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least the
first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most sports in
our goals to promote family life and support kids.
<cmsturg@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166039940.191625.79900@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Kind of difficult to pick any sports coverage that doesn't have some
> sort of adult beverage advertisements.
>
>
> AKA gray asphalt wrote:
>> You reminded me of another 'great' thing about TGC ... there choice to
>> present the golfing kids with alcohol advertisements. A real contribution
>> to
>> society.
>>
>> <cmsturg@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165940924.899432.252190@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>> >I really enjoy TGC. BB used to be my favorite show; however the last
>> > few incarnations have not really excited me too much. (In fact I missed
>> > most of this last season). I wish they would show more of the Bobby
>> > Jones Golf Instruction "movies". Those are very interesting and still
>> > applicable today. Other shows I don't turn off, Grey Goose 19th hole
>> > and Golf Central. I am really looking forward to next year. Being able
>> > to see 1 and 2 round coverage in the evenings is going to be great. I
>> > always wondered why TGC didn't license the 1 & 2 round coverage's
>> > for replay in the evenings...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Dec 12, 3:03 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> First they had Tiger night, then they stopped it. Then they had "the
>> >> troubleshooters" which they stopped or changed. They had "The Daly
>> >> Word"
>> >> or
>> >> "The World according to John Daly" whatever, which I liked but it got
>> >> canceled, I guess. You never what's going to be on the schedule the
>> >> next
>> >> month. The one sure thing is that the commercial blocks went from an
>> >> hour
>> >> and a half to two hours.
>> >>
>> >> I like Big Break, even with Donald Trump and his fake ego.
>> >>
>> >> The Golf Channel theme song drives me crazy... can't they take the
>> >> canned
>> >> midi music and at least add an instrument or change one?
>> >>
>> >> My biggest gripe is that they are too _________ to let the players
>> >> play a
>> >> practice round on the BB course. A lot of the time they are guessing
>> >> where
>> >> the hazzards off the tee are. What kind of contest is that?
>> >>
>> >> Why play "Golf Central" four times in a row? Don't they think people
>> >> watch
>> >> for more than a half an hour at a time in the wee hours? It's nice to
>> >> see
>> >> LPGA events, though. And if they could promote some local tournaments
>> >> for
>> >> a
>> >> big deal national tournament for us wannabee seniors ... for a spot in
>> >> a
>> >> Champions Tournament it would add a lot on interest.
>> >>
>> >> At least they don't mention "Ipod" every 5 minutes, like every other
>> >> channel. I guess they can't get the product placement money.
>> >
>
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 16:09:55
From: sfb
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Advertisements are one thing, but TGC winds the booze into the content.
There's no journalistic need to have a bottle of Vodka on the table when
they do the Grey Goose show.
<cmsturg@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166039940.191625.79900@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Kind of difficult to pick any sports coverage that doesn't have some
> sort of adult beverage advertisements.
>
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 19:18:08
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Do journalists work for free?
sfb wrote:
> Advertisements are one thing, but TGC winds the booze into the content.
> There's no journalistic need to have a bottle of Vodka on the table when
> they do the Grey Goose show.
>
> <cmsturg@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1166039940.191625.79900@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>> Kind of difficult to pick any sports coverage that doesn't have some
>> sort of adult beverage advertisements.
>>
>
>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 08:54:54
From: sfb
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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When was the last time you saw an NFL game announcer doing the game sitting
in a sponsor's automobile?
"Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com > wrote in message
news:hfednROlI_HfBR3YnZ2dnUVZ_o7inZ2d@comcast.com...
> Do journalists work for free?
>
> sfb wrote:
>> Advertisements are one thing, but TGC winds the booze into the content.
>> There's no journalistic need to have a bottle of Vodka on the table when
>> they do the Grey Goose show.
>>
>> <cmsturg@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166039940.191625.79900@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>>> Kind of difficult to pick any sports coverage that doesn't have some
>>> sort of adult beverage advertisements.
>>>
>>
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 13:20:08
From: greers
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Ranks right there with home shopping network for useful or entertaining
content. I'll watch the Mon pm instructional shows, but that's it.
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 19:25:31
From: Michael Anselmo
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"greers" <greers@scfworld.com > wrote in message
news:1165958408.196970.28000@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Ranks right there with home shopping network for useful or entertaining
> content. I'll watch the Mon pm instructional shows, but that's it.
>
Hey! Don't knock the Home Shopping Network. I like it because it has no
commercials. ;-)
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 08:28:44
From:
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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I really enjoy TGC. BB used to be my favorite show; however the last
few incarnations have not really excited me too much. (In fact I missed
most of this last season). I wish they would show more of the Bobby
Jones Golf Instruction "movies". Those are very interesting and still
applicable today. Other shows I don't turn off, Grey Goose 19th hole
and Golf Central. I am really looking forward to next year. Being able
to see 1 and 2 round coverage in the evenings is going to be great. I
always wondered why TGC didn't license the 1 & 2 round coverage's
for replay in the evenings...
On Dec 12, 3:03 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com >
wrote:
> First they had Tiger night, then they stopped it. Then they had "the
> troubleshooters" which they stopped or changed. They had "The Daly Word" or
> "The World according to John Daly" whatever, which I liked but it got
> canceled, I guess. You never what's going to be on the schedule the next
> month. The one sure thing is that the commercial blocks went from an hour
> and a half to two hours.
>
> I like Big Break, even with Donald Trump and his fake ego.
>
> The Golf Channel theme song drives me crazy... can't they take the canned
> midi music and at least add an instrument or change one?
>
> My biggest gripe is that they are too _________ to let the players play a
> practice round on the BB course. A lot of the time they are guessing where
> the hazzards off the tee are. What kind of contest is that?
>
> Why play "Golf Central" four times in a row? Don't they think people watch
> for more than a half an hour at a time in the wee hours? It's nice to see
> LPGA events, though. And if they could promote some local tournaments for a
> big deal national tournament for us wannabee seniors ... for a spot in a
> Champions Tournament it would add a lot on interest.
>
> At least they don't mention "Ipod" every 5 minutes, like every other
> channel. I guess they can't get the product placement money.
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 13:30:46
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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You reminded me of another 'great' thing about TGC ... there choice to
present the golfing kids with alcohol advertisements. A real contribution to
society.
<cmsturg@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1165940924.899432.252190@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>I really enjoy TGC. BB used to be my favorite show; however the last
> few incarnations have not really excited me too much. (In fact I missed
> most of this last season). I wish they would show more of the Bobby
> Jones Golf Instruction "movies". Those are very interesting and still
> applicable today. Other shows I don't turn off, Grey Goose 19th hole
> and Golf Central. I am really looking forward to next year. Being able
> to see 1 and 2 round coverage in the evenings is going to be great. I
> always wondered why TGC didn't license the 1 & 2 round coverage's
> for replay in the evenings...
>
>
> On Dec 12, 3:03 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com>
> wrote:
>> First they had Tiger night, then they stopped it. Then they had "the
>> troubleshooters" which they stopped or changed. They had "The Daly Word"
>> or
>> "The World according to John Daly" whatever, which I liked but it got
>> canceled, I guess. You never what's going to be on the schedule the next
>> month. The one sure thing is that the commercial blocks went from an hour
>> and a half to two hours.
>>
>> I like Big Break, even with Donald Trump and his fake ego.
>>
>> The Golf Channel theme song drives me crazy... can't they take the canned
>> midi music and at least add an instrument or change one?
>>
>> My biggest gripe is that they are too _________ to let the players play a
>> practice round on the BB course. A lot of the time they are guessing
>> where
>> the hazzards off the tee are. What kind of contest is that?
>>
>> Why play "Golf Central" four times in a row? Don't they think people
>> watch
>> for more than a half an hour at a time in the wee hours? It's nice to see
>> LPGA events, though. And if they could promote some local tournaments for
>> a
>> big deal national tournament for us wannabee seniors ... for a spot in a
>> Champions Tournament it would add a lot on interest.
>>
>> At least they don't mention "Ipod" every 5 minutes, like every other
>> channel. I guess they can't get the product placement money.
>
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 11:57:18
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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George Hibbard wrote:
> "The_Professor" <dbid@att.net> wrote in message
> news:1165854785.648438.313100@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > George Hibbard wrote:
> >> "Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:457CF076.F3454865@att.net...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > David Laville wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I loved watching those old tournaments!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Do you mute them?
> >
> > No. Why would I? I don't watch the replays of recent events though. I
> > don't care about the 1997 Masters, for example... I care more about
> > watching the 1947 Masters.
>
>
> It's hard to listen to someone say "that's a nice shot" all the time... or
> to stomach the hype often attached. SOME of the commentary is GREAT. I
> have to mute a ton....
Watched the Saints game last night. Al Micheals, who knows enough about
football to say things like "he dropped that" or "he handed it off" or
something like that. You gotta give it to him though...he knows all the
players names...as they were written on the backs of their jerseys!
Had the mute on, played my guitar.
...PS that Pink intro to NBC football has gotta be the most brutally
bad thing I have ever seen!
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 08:33:05
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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George Hibbard wrote:
> "Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net> wrote in message
> news:457CF076.F3454865@att.net...
> >
> >
> > David Laville wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I loved watching those old tournaments!
> >
> >
>
> Do you mute them?
No. Why would I? I don't watch the replays of recent events though. I
don't care about the 1997 Masters, for example... I care more about
watching the 1947 Masters.
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 14:27:09
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"The_Professor" <dbid@att.net > wrote in message
news:1165854785.648438.313100@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
> George Hibbard wrote:
>> "Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:457CF076.F3454865@att.net...
>> >
>> >
>> > David Laville wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > I loved watching those old tournaments!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Do you mute them?
>
> No. Why would I? I don't watch the replays of recent events though. I
> don't care about the 1997 Masters, for example... I care more about
> watching the 1947 Masters.
It's hard to listen to someone say "that's a nice shot" all the time... or
to stomach the hype often attached. SOME of the commentary is GREAT. I
have to mute a ton....
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 02:58:51
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:27:09 -0500, "George Hibbard"
<gh@perfectimpact.com > wrote:
>It's hard to listen to someone say "that's a nice shot" all the time... or
>to stomach the hype often attached. SOME of the commentary is GREAT. I
>have to mute a ton....
In my opinion the hype is worst today.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 00:03:54
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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First they had Tiger night, then they stopped it. Then they had "the
troubleshooters" which they stopped or changed. They had "The Daly Word" or
"The World according to John Daly" whatever, which I liked but it got
canceled, I guess. You never what's going to be on the schedule the next
month. The one sure thing is that the commercial blocks went from an hour
and a half to two hours.
I like Big Break, even with Donald Trump and his fake ego.
The Golf Channel theme song drives me crazy... can't they take the canned
midi music and at least add an instrument or change one?
My biggest gripe is that they are too _________ to let the players play a
practice round on the BB course. A lot of the time they are guessing where
the hazzards off the tee are. What kind of contest is that?
Why play "Golf Central" four times in a row? Don't they think people watch
for more than a half an hour at a time in the wee hours? It's nice to see
LPGA events, though. And if they could promote some local tournaments for a
big deal national tournament for us wannabee seniors ... for a spot in a
Champions Tournament it would add a lot on interest.
At least they don't mention "Ipod" every 5 minutes, like every other
channel. I guess they can't get the product placement money.
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 02:44:19
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net >
wrote:
>I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
>old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
>These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
>show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
>What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
>worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
>OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
>"resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
>
>About the only thing I watch on it now is some of the Euro Tour stuff.
>Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
>too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
>though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 05:54:03
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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David Laville wrote:
>
> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
>
>
I loved watching those old tournaments!
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 08:25:53
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote in message
news:457CF076.F3454865@att.net...
>
>
> David Laville wrote:
>
>>
>> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
>>
>>
>
> I loved watching those old tournaments!
>
>
Do you mute them?
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 02:55:13
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 02:44:19 +0000, David Laville wrote:
> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
I really like Playing Lessons from the Pros. It's almost like you're
one-on-one and you can get a feel for how they play the game and what
they're like in real life. The one Daly did was excellent, probably my
favorite. Couples was very good. And John Cook, remember that? What did he
shoot, 29 or 30? Damn! These guys really are good!
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 03:24:56
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Bush still doesn't get it
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:17:39 -0500, Head Shot wrote:
> Carbon wrote:
>> WRT your obvious hard-on for Saddam, there are folks who represent a
>> much greater threat. There's this one guy, what's his name, Osama
>> something? Boy, what a dickhead that guy was. Wonder what ever happened
>> to him? Oh well, at least we have Saddam!
>
> The US Government let him go at Tora Bora when they realized that him
> being on the loose was way better for the USA economy. I bet Lockheed
> tin rietta, Northrop Grumman, United Technologies, Rockwell,
> Raytheon, and Loral have made many billions on OBL being alive and
> well. That's a huge amount of American jobs right there.
My my, what a cynic you are ;-).
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 03:54:17
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Why don't we wait (was: Hillary's too vane to be president)
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 03:26:35 +0000, S McFarlane wrote:
> Slope rating takes into account the things about a course that tend to
> make it more difficult for golfers normally in the low 90's ('bogey
> golfer'). That's an oversimplification, but it's the basic idea. The
> numbers are standardized to 113. So a 'normal' course according to the
> USGA would have a slope of 113. The higher the number, the more
> difficult for a mid to high-handicapper.
>
> You're dead on as far as course rating. If someone has an index of 0,
> the slope rating of a course they play will have no effect on their
> anticipated performance. They won't get any strokes at all based on the
> slope rating. Of course, high slope ratings tend to go with high course
> ratings.
My only concern with slope and course ratings is the lack of consistency
from course to course. I play a lot of my golf at a goat track muni which
has a 70.6 course rating and a 120 slope. That may have been true 40 years
ago when the city kept the place up. But now none of the greens crew gives
a shit and they speed up their work day by gradually narrowing the
fairways and not cutting the rough at all. Bermuda rough. Have you every
played uncut Bermuda in the South in the summer, where it rains every day?
It's a wide-open course that plays like the US Open. Only with pock-ked
greens that resemble the surface of the moon. Which don't drain properly
so the front of every one is a sodden sh into which balls just
disappear. I've only broken 80 there a maybe a dozen times.
There's a resort course 20 miles north that has a higher course rating and
slope but which plays at least five shots easier. It is a couple hundred
yards longer and there are some tricky multi-tiered greens, but it's
always in great shape. The greens are true and they lower the blades of
the mower so that it actually cuts the rough. That alone makes a huge
difference.
I know a few guys who play a lot of their golf at the goat track just for
handicap purposes. That, and the bar hasn't changed its prices in ten
years. Some of the best ten handicappers you'll ever see play there. Comes
in mighty handy when the county amateur rolls around...
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 13:20:24
From: Dene
Subject: Re: golf swing
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Bobby Knight wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:13:23 -0000, "Rog" <rog@repairman.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Rog" <rog@repairman.com> wrote in message news:elsmhs$dbs$1@aioe.org...
> >> Out of ten:
> >>
> >>
> >> Levac 10
> >> Hibbard 7 and climbing
> >> Laville 4 very disappointing
> >> Brazee 0 Usual drivel
> >>
> >> Rog
> >>
> >
> >Apologies to Mr Brazee, I meant that bitter and twisted poster Bobby Knight.
> >Rog
> >
> Thanks. I felt left out by the poster, Rob, who is obviously
> retarded.
Regardless, his analysis of you is dead on.
-Greg
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 02:58:51
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: golf swing
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:07:52 -0700, "glfnaz" <glfnaz@qwesttrash.com >
wrote:
>>> I saw your video too.
>>> It's rare to see a guy shank a driver off the hosel.
>>> Did you learn that by visual techniques?
>> If I ever meet you, please remind me to not trust your judgement. Thank
>> you.
>I know a hosel shot when someone is stupid enough to post one.
>Nice
>Did you practice that?
tin Levac is a troll. Did you notice how his trolling mimics
LLLarry;
LLLarry - lessons are a scam, the pro wants you coming back to make
more money.
Levac- clubs and shaft are a scam, the club companies want you to keep
buying clubs so they can make more money.
LLLarry - post video of his swing.
Levac - post video of his swing.
LLLarry - We can learn to swing the club by watching Bobby Jones.
Levac - We learn and can learn by watching.
Neither of this guys know enough about the golf swing to make any
valuable contributions to RSG so they make a mockery of it by
trolling.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 23:37:45
From: Martin Levac
Subject: Re: golf swing
|
"David Laville" <dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:ck6sn290b92pgu914p5fdthutiigjevhgq@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:07:52 -0700, "glfnaz" <glfnaz@qwesttrash.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>> I saw your video too.
>>>> It's rare to see a guy shank a driver off the hosel.
>>>> Did you learn that by visual techniques?
>
>>> If I ever meet you, please remind me to not trust your judgement. Thank
>>> you.
>
>>I know a hosel shot when someone is stupid enough to post one.
>>Nice
>>Did you practice that?
>
> tin Levac is a troll. Did you notice how his trolling mimics
> LLLarry;
>
> LLLarry - lessons are a scam, the pro wants you coming back to make
> more money.
>
> Levac- clubs and shaft are a scam, the club companies want you to keep
> buying clubs so they can make more money.
>
> LLLarry - post video of his swing.
>
> Levac - post video of his swing.
>
> LLLarry - We can learn to swing the club by watching Bobby Jones.
>
> Levac - We learn and can learn by watching.
>
> Neither of this guys know enough about the golf swing to make any
> valuable contributions to RSG so they make a mockery of it by
> trolling.
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
> TB-8982
Thank you, I didn't know that. You are very helpful, David Laville, we can
count on you. We can certainly count on you to stay on topic. You bring joy
to the world. I will praise your name to whomever will listen. You bring a
fresh perspective to this discussion. We are thankful that you deem us
worthy of your wisdom. Every time I read your posts, I feel like I'm looking
at something original, insightful and deeply meaningful. Thank you again,
David Laville, you are simply the best. You make it look so easy and that's
the truth.
tin Levac
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 02:46:15
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: golf swing
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:37:45 -0500, "tin Levac"
<vac3@REMOVEvideotron.ca > wrote:
>Thank you, I didn't know that. You are very helpful, David Laville, we can
>count on you. We can certainly count on you to stay on topic. You bring joy
>to the world. I will praise your name to whomever will listen. You bring a
>fresh perspective to this discussion. We are thankful that you deem us
>worthy of your wisdom. Every time I read your posts, I feel like I'm looking
>at something original, insightful and deeply meaningful. Thank you again,
>David Laville, you are simply the best. You make it look so easy and that's
>the truth.
Like I said folks, this guy's a troll.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 23:37:27
From: Martin Levac
Subject: Re: golf swing
|
"David Laville" <dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:5aqun2t9li6rj92m2iq1812c92v3cqbrl0@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:37:45 -0500, "tin Levac"
> <vac3@REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>Thank you, I didn't know that. You are very helpful, David Laville, we can
>>count on you. We can certainly count on you to stay on topic. You bring
>>joy
>>to the world. I will praise your name to whomever will listen. You bring a
>>fresh perspective to this discussion. We are thankful that you deem us
>>worthy of your wisdom. Every time I read your posts, I feel like I'm
>>looking
>>at something original, insightful and deeply meaningful. Thank you again,
>>David Laville, you are simply the best. You make it look so easy and
>>that's
>>the truth.
>
> Like I said folks, this guy's a troll.
>
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
> TB-8982
I don't deny it. But you, David Laville, can you not look past my failings
as a human being and focus on the message instead? Are you not intelligent
enough to distinguish between the message and the messenger? Are you not
evolved enough to overcome your disdain for me so that we can advance the
discussion for the good of all? Are you not wise enough?
Perhaps you feel that pointing out the flaws in others allows, in turn, to
feel better about yourself regardless of your own flaws? Perhaps the mote in
your eye is so large that it prevents you from seeing the wrong in your
doing? Perhaps you wish for more attention than is appropriate, more than
you deserve, more than you warrant regardless of the quality of this
attention? Perhaps you give no regard to your own self esteem? Perhaps you
have no self esteem?
No harm in asking.
tin Levac
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 01:27:47
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: golf swing
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:37:27 -0500, "tin Levac"
<vac3@REMOVEvideotron.ca > wrote:
>> Like I said folks, this guy's a troll.
>I don't deny it.
Case closed.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 20:38:41
From: Martin Levac
Subject: Re: golf swing
|
"David Laville" <dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:c4a1o25c645omcuffrlkino2rughnki6ev@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:37:27 -0500, "tin Levac"
> <vac3@REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>> Like I said folks, this guy's a troll.
>
>>I don't deny it.
>
> Case closed.
>
>
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
> TB-8982
By whom?
tin Levac
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 13:48:21
From: GaryC_47
Subject: Re: golf swing
|
"glfnaz" <glfnaz@qwesttrash.com > wrote in message
news:457cd9a2$0$91106$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
>
> "tin Levac" <vac3@REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:h94fh.22017$aJ6.248187@wagner.videotron.net...
>>
>> "glfnaz" <glfnaz@qwesttrash.com> wrote in message
>> news:457ccbf8$0$502$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
>>>
>>> "tin Levac" <vac3@REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:UN3fh.22011$aJ6.236952@wagner.videotron.net...
>>>> David Laville, no it's not my logic. It appears to be yours.
>>>> Try again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> tin Levac
>>>
>>> I saw your video too.
>>> It's rare to see a guy shank a driver off the hosel.
>>> Did you learn that by visual techniques?
>>>
>>
>> If I ever meet you, please remind me to not trust your judgement.
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> tin Levac
>
> I know a hosel shot when someone is stupid enough to post one.
> Nice
> Did you practice that?
>
If you're referring to this youtube swing video he posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62XKd0EIitg
It's NOT a shank. What you see going right is obviously the tee. You
both owe him an apology.
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 02:58:51
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: golf swing
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:48:21 -0500, "GaryC_47" <garyc_47@myrealbox.ca >
wrote:
>
>If you're referring to this youtube swing video he posted:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62XKd0EIitg
>
>It's NOT a shank. What you see going right is obviously the tee. You
>both owe him an apology.
I don't think so. Watch it again and you'll see the ball go right.
Granted the tee does go right but so does the ball. Would you like me
to prove it to you?
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 07:17:33
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: golf swing
|
David Laville wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:48:21 -0500, "GaryC_47" <garyc_47@myrealbox.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> If you're referring to this youtube swing video he posted:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62XKd0EIitg
>>
>> It's NOT a shank. What you see going right is obviously the tee. You
>> both owe him an apology.
>
> I don't think so. Watch it again and you'll see the ball go right.
> Granted the tee does go right but so does the ball. Would you like me
> to prove it to you?
How about a critique of this swing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTQYfjWyKWM
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 08:16:05
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: golf swing
|
"Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com > wrote in message
news:vJWdnVXc56hDAOPYnZ2dnUVZ_s_inZ2d@comcast.com...
> David Laville wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:48:21 -0500, "GaryC_47" <garyc_47@myrealbox.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you're referring to this youtube swing video he posted:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62XKd0EIitg
>>>
>>> It's NOT a shank. What you see going right is obviously the tee. You
>>> both owe him an apology.
>>
>> I don't think so. Watch it again and you'll see the ball go right.
>> Granted the tee does go right but so does the ball. Would you like me
>> to prove it to you?
That's not a HOSEL rocket; the ball flew off the edge of the toe!
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 02:46:01
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: golf swing
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:16:05 -0500, "George Hibbard"
<gh@perfectimpact.com > wrote:
>That's not a HOSEL rocket; the ball flew off the edge of the toe!
Irregardless it still went right and only a troll would post a link to
such a video clip of himself.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 23:14:29
From: Martin Levac
Subject: Re: golf swing
|
"David Laville" <dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:g9qun2t62mgafgh6u8e6p7k79v3phh2vo0@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:16:05 -0500, "George Hibbard"
> <gh@perfectimpact.com> wrote:
>
>>That's not a HOSEL rocket; the ball flew off the edge of the toe!
>
> Irregardless it still went right and only a troll would post a link to
> such a video clip of himself.
>
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
> TB-8982
Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th
century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of
usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated rek
about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It
is still used priily in speech, although it can be found from time to
time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is
still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
http://www.hfac.uh.edu/English/classes/GU4322/items/irregardless.html
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/irregardless.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless
A little bit of education never hurt anyone, David Laville. I do not wish
you harm, David Laville, but you appear to wish me embarassment if not
worse. Are you a mean person, David Laville? Can you distinguish between the
message and the messenger? I can. I do not know you, David Laville and you
do not know me either. You obviously appear to have a problem with me even
though you do not know me. The problem, as I wrote earlier, if it exists is
entirely yours to solve. I can help but I doubt you'll want my help.
Affectionately yours,
tin Levac
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