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Date: 09 Feb 2007 07:47:49
From: Not me
Subject: Ball position: the truth this time.

Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.

<http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg >

Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.

"From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin height;
a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
arms.

<http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg >

Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
describes him.

<http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg >

Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick have
to say about that?

"Left: This ball position is better suited for a knockdown shot. I
prefer it a bit farther forward."

<http://golfdigest.com/login/login.ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/index.
ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/gd200312price.html >

(You'll have to do the free sign up for that last link, Sorry.

So there you go. Three of the best swings in golf and not one of them is
playing the ball from the centre of his stance except as a specialty
shot...

Date: 11 Feb 2007 11:18:41
From: Zuke
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

What's so hard about this? You hit down on the irons, hit up on
the woods. Even more so now with those big frigging heads. The
USGA didn't put a rule in limiting the height of tees because
people were trying to hit down on the driver. If you have a
video of Tiger hitting down on a driver the ball probably
ended up on a roof somewhere. Also his swingspeed is about
the equivalent of a NASCAR racecar, probably double at what
we are swinging at.

On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Not me wrote:

> Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.
>
> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg>
>
> Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.
>
> "From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
> target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin height;
> a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
> arms.
>
> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg>
>
> Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
> describes him.
>
> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg>
>
> Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick have
> to say about that?
>
> "Left: This ball position is better suited for a knockdown shot. I
> prefer it a bit farther forward."
>
> <http://golfdigest.com/login/login.ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/index.
> ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/gd200312price.html>
>
> (You'll have to do the free sign up for that last link, Sorry.
>
> So there you go. Three of the best swings in golf and not one of them is
> playing the ball from the centre of his stance except as a specialty
> shot...
>

Date: 09 Feb 2007 14:26:58
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

On Feb 9, 3:31 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:38:32 GMT, Not me <u...@foobar.com> wrote:
>
> <clip>
>
> >Daring to mention that Hogan disagrees with him on ball position will
> >assure you of being called a "wino", or some such.
>
> >:-)
>
> According to Netscan, 2/14 will k LLLLLarrrry's 5th year on rsg. If
> the last year's number of posts was average, he will have posted over
> 6,000 times.
>
> What would the over/under be on posts that disagreed with him?
> ___,
> \o
>

Date: 09 Feb 2007 22:34:29
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

On 9 Feb 2007 14:26:58 -0800, "The_Professor" <dbid@att.net > wrote:

>On Feb 9, 3:31 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:38:32 GMT, Not me <u...@foobar.com> wrote:
>>
>> <clip>
>>
>> >Daring to mention that Hogan disagrees with him on ball position will
>> >assure you of being called a "wino", or some such.
>>
>> >:-)
>>
>> According to Netscan, 2/14 will k LLLLLarrrry's 5th year on rsg. If
>> the last year's number of posts was average, he will have posted over
>> 6,000 times.
>>
>> What would the over/under be on posts that disagreed with him?
>> ___,
>> \o
>>

Date: 09 Feb 2007 12:32:12
From: SKIPPER
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

On Feb 9, 12:44 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com > wrote:
> On 9 Feb 2007 09:06:45 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Feb 9, 2:47 am, Not me <u...@foobar.com> wrote:
> >> Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.
>
> >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg>
>
> >> Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.
>
> >> "From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
> >> target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin height;
> >> a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
> >> arms.
>
> >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg>
>
> >> Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
> >> describes him.
>
> >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg>
>
> >> Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick have
> >> to say about that?
>
> That clip is exactly how every young pro including Tiger looked
> hitting irons and fairway woods at the Buick. We observed from
> directly beside them with the golfer facing us and also with his back
> to us. We could see the ball between his feet. We were surprised
> because we too believed that the ball should be played forward. It
> wasn't. The best players don't.
>
> Tom Watson a few years ago had an article in Golf Digest strongly
> suggesting that amateurs should play the ball further back in their
> stance---even behind the middle of their stance, in order to achieve
> better contact and straighter ball flights. Try it, it works.
>
> Of course most in RSG would prefer to just argue.......

Ben Hogan in TMFOG states his preferred position is 1.5 inches
inside his left heel, and this is constant from wedge to driver. Which
really looks about 1 inch further forward than Els (who has a "one
plane" Hogan-style swing only without as aggressive a hip turn
to initiate the downswing).

Hogan also says it doesn't really matter exactly where the
ball is played, as long as it is consistent (he mighta said
someplace between middle of stance and off left heel
but I'd have to check again).

-PA

Date: 09 Feb 2007 21:20:37
From: Alan Murphy
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

"SKIPPER" <blakestah@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1171053132.329108.154180@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 9, 12:44 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
>> On 9 Feb 2007 09:06:45 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 9, 2:47 am, Not me <u...@foobar.com> wrote:
>> >> Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.
>>
>> >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg>
>>
>> >> Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.
>>
>> >> "From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
>> >> target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin
>> >> height;
>> >> a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
>> >> arms.
>>
>> >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg>
>>
>> >> Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
>> >> describes him.
>>
>> >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg>
>>
>> >> Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick
>> >> have
>> >> to say about that?
>>
>> That clip is exactly how every young pro including Tiger looked
>> hitting irons and fairway woods at the Buick. We observed from
>> directly beside them with the golfer facing us and also with his back
>> to us. We could see the ball between his feet. We were surprised
>> because we too believed that the ball should be played forward. It
>> wasn't. The best players don't.
>>
>> Tom Watson a few years ago had an article in Golf Digest strongly
>> suggesting that amateurs should play the ball further back in their
>> stance---even behind the middle of their stance, in order to achieve
>> better contact and straighter ball flights. Try it, it works.
>>
>> Of course most in RSG would prefer to just argue.......
>
> Ben Hogan in TMFOG states his preferred position is 1.5 inches
> inside his left heel, and this is constant from wedge to driver. Which
> really looks about 1 inch further forward than Els (who has a "one
> plane" Hogan-style swing only without as aggressive a hip turn
> to initiate the downswing).
>
> Hogan also says it doesn't really matter exactly where the
> ball is played, as long as it is consistent (he mighta said
> someplace between middle of stance and off left heel
> but I'd have to check again).
>
> -PA
>
This is the direct quote from Hogan's TMFOG.
"On all standard shots the ball should be spotted in
the same position relative to the left heel. (I spot it
a half inch to an inch inside the left heel toward the
right foot.) You can, to be sure, play the ball a shade
farther forward or back - it varies from individual to
individual, depending on the spot that is the lowest
point in his swing"
Hi Lllllarry - Hogan sends his regards.

Alan

Date: 09 Feb 2007 20:38:32
From: Not me
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

In article <1171053132.329108.154180@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"SKIPPER" <blakestah@gmail.com > wrote:

> On Feb 9, 12:44 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
> > On 9 Feb 2007 09:06:45 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >On Feb 9, 2:47 am, Not me <u...@foobar.com> wrote:
> > >> Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.
> >
> > >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg>
> >
> > >> Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.
> >
> > >> "From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
> > >> target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin height;
> > >> a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
> > >> arms.
> >
> > >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg>
> >
> > >> Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
> > >> describes him.
> >
> > >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg>
> >
> > >> Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick have
> > >> to say about that?
> >
> > That clip is exactly how every young pro including Tiger looked
> > hitting irons and fairway woods at the Buick. We observed from
> > directly beside them with the golfer facing us and also with his back
> > to us. We could see the ball between his feet. We were surprised
> > because we too believed that the ball should be played forward. It
> > wasn't. The best players don't.
> >
> > Tom Watson a few years ago had an article in Golf Digest strongly
> > suggesting that amateurs should play the ball further back in their
> > stance---even behind the middle of their stance, in order to achieve
> > better contact and straighter ball flights. Try it, it works.
> >
> > Of course most in RSG would prefer to just argue.......
>
> Ben Hogan in TMFOG states his preferred position is 1.5 inches
> inside his left heel, and this is constant from wedge to driver. Which
> really looks about 1 inch further forward than Els (who has a "one
> plane" Hogan-style swing only without as aggressive a hip turn
> to initiate the downswing).
>
> Hogan also says it doesn't really matter exactly where the
> ball is played, as long as it is consistent (he mighta said
> someplace between middle of stance and off left heel
> but I'd have to check again).
>
> -PA

No, no, PA.

Hogan is only important insomuch as Larry likes to compare his journery
as a hacker to Hogan's and therefore justify telling us about each of
his guesses about what makes a good swing (as opposed to Hogan, who only
described what he thought was a good swing after he'd become
acknowledged as one of the game's best).

Daring to mention that Hogan disagrees with him on ball position will
assure you of being called a "wino", or some such.

:-)

Date: 09 Feb 2007 21:31:44
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:38:32 GMT, Not me <user@foobar.com > wrote:

<clip >
>Daring to mention that Hogan disagrees with him on ball position will
>assure you of being called a "wino", or some such.
>
>:-)

According to Netscan, 2/14 will k LLLLLarrrry's 5th year on rsg. If
the last year's number of posts was average, he will have posted over
6,000 times.

What would the over/under be on posts that disagreed with him?
___,
\o

Date: 09 Feb 2007 16:19:35
From: frank ross
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

Bobby Knight wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:38:32 GMT, Not me <user@foobar.com> wrote:
>
> <clip>
>> Daring to mention that Hogan disagrees with him on ball position will
>> assure you of being called a "wino", or some such.
>>
>> :-)
>
> According to Netscan, 2/14 will k LLLLLarrrry's 5th year on rsg. If
> the last year's number of posts was average, he will have posted over
> 6,000 times.
>
> What would the over/under be on posts that disagreed with him?
> ___,
> \o
>

Date: 09 Feb 2007 12:11:21
From: Martin Levac
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

"Not me" <user@foobar.com > wrote in message
news:user-8E7160.23474908022007@news.telus.net...
> Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.
>
> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg>
>
> Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.
>
> "From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
> target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin height;
> a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
> arms.
>
> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg>
>
> Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
> describes him.
>
> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg>
>
> Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick have
> to say about that?
>
> "Left: This ball position is better suited for a knockdown shot. I
> prefer it a bit farther forward."
>
> <http://golfdigest.com/login/login.ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/index.
> ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/gd200312price.html>
>
> (You'll have to do the free sign up for that last link, Sorry.
>
> So there you go. Three of the best swings in golf and not one of them is
> playing the ball from the centre of his stance except as a specialty
> shot...

Do you have a picture of Moe Norman? He was not one of the best ball
strikers in the world, he was the best ball striker in the world.

Date: 09 Feb 2007 18:49:11
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

In article <iW1zh.20897$fb2.260197@weber.videotron.net >,
"tin Levac" <vac3@REMOVEvideotron.ca > wrote:

> "Not me" <user@foobar.com> wrote in message
> news:user-8E7160.23474908022007@news.telus.net...
> > Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.
> >
> > <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg>
> >
> > Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.
> >
> > "From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
> > target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin height;
> > a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
> > arms.
> >
> > <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg>
> >
> > Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
> > describes him.
> >
> > <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg>
> >
> > Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick have
> > to say about that?
> >
> > "Left: This ball position is better suited for a knockdown shot. I
> > prefer it a bit farther forward."
> >
> > <http://golfdigest.com/login/login.ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/index.
> > ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/gd200312price.html>
> >
> > (You'll have to do the free sign up for that last link, Sorry.
> >
> > So there you go. Three of the best swings in golf and not one of them is
> > playing the ball from the centre of his stance except as a specialty
> > shot...
>
> Do you have a picture of Moe Norman? He was not one of the best ball
> strikers in the world, he was the best ball striker in the world.

Golf Digest does, but he's swing a driver and for this discussion I
wanted irons.

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.

Date: 09 Feb 2007 09:06:45
From: KnighT
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

On Feb 9, 2:47 am, Not me <u...@foobar.com > wrote:
> Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.
>
> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg>
>
> Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.
>
> "From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
> target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin height;
> a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
> arms.
>
> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg>
>
> Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
> describes him.
>
> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg>
>
> Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick have
> to say about that?
>
> "Left: This ball position is better suited for a knockdown shot. I
> prefer it a bit farther forward."
>
> <http://golfdigest.com/login/login.ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/index.
> ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/gd200312price.html>
>
> (You'll have to do the free sign up for that last link, Sorry.
>
> So there you go. Three of the best swings in golf and not one of them is
> playing the ball from the centre of his stance except as a specialty
> shot...

Jack Nicklaus and Johnny Miller had some success with a single ball
position, just inside the left shoulder.

Date: 09 Feb 2007 09:44:10
From: larry
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

On 9 Feb 2007 09:06:45 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk777@yahoo.com > wrote:

>On Feb 9, 2:47 am, Not me <u...@foobar.com> wrote:
>> Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.
>>
>> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg>
>>
>> Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.
>>
>> "From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
>> target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin height;
>> a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
>> arms.
>>
>> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg>
>>
>> Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
>> describes him.
>>
>> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg>
>>
>> Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick have
>> to say about that?

That clip is exactly how every young pro including Tiger looked
hitting irons and fairway woods at the Buick. We observed from
directly beside them with the golfer facing us and also with his back
to us. We could see the ball between his feet. We were surprised
because we too believed that the ball should be played forward. It
wasn't. The best players don't.

Tom Watson a few years ago had an article in Golf Digest strongly
suggesting that amateurs should play the ball further back in their
stance---even behind the middle of their stance, in order to achieve
better contact and straighter ball flights. Try it, it works.

Of course most in RSG would prefer to just argue.......

Larry

Date: 09 Feb 2007 18:50:24
From: Not me
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

Date: 09 Feb 2007 18:43:24
From: Not me
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

In article <m7cps2tutqo2n8tb3vm5nnop3gb8fiqojo@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:

> On 9 Feb 2007 09:06:45 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk777@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Feb 9, 2:47 am, Not me <u...@foobar.com> wrote:
> >> Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.
> >>
> >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg>
> >>
> >> Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.
> >>
> >> "From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
> >> target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin height;
> >> a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
> >> arms.
> >>
> >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg>
> >>
> >> Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
> >> describes him.
> >>
> >> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg>
> >>
> >> Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick have
> >> to say about that?
>
> That clip is exactly how every young pro including Tiger looked
> hitting irons and fairway woods at the Buick. We observed from
> directly beside them with the golfer facing us and also with his back
> to us. We could see the ball between his feet. We were surprised
> because we too believed that the ball should be played forward. It
> wasn't. The best players don't.

The best players play the ball from forward of the middle of their
stance. That's what those pictures show. Ernie Els most, Sergio less,
and Nick Price..

...well, let's look at what you clipped...

<restoring what was clipped by Larry, so he could make his previous
paragraph without obviously looking like a complete idiot >

> > > "Left: This ball position is better suited for a knockdown shot. I
> > > prefer it a bit farther forward."
> > >
> > > <http://golfdigest.com/login/login.ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/index.
> > > ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/gd200312price.html>
> > >
> > > (You'll have to do the free sign up for that last link, Sorry.
> > >
> > > So there you go. Three of the best swings in golf and not one of them is
> > > playing the ball from the centre of his stance except as a specialty
> > > shot...

So Nick Price plays the ball further forward for a regular shot. He says
that a ball in the middle of his stance is only for a knockdown shot.

>
> Tom Watson a few years ago had an article in Golf Digest strongly
> suggesting that amateurs should play the ball further back in their
> stance---even behind the middle of their stance, in order to achieve
> better contact and straighter ball flights. Try it, it works.

You told us to do that before...

Then you told us it was wrong...

Now, you're telling us again...

How long before you change your mind...

...again?

>
> Of course most in RSG would prefer to just argue.......
>
> Larry

Date: 09 Feb 2007 12:28:12
From: Martin Levac
Subject: Re: Ball position: the truth this time.

"KnighT" <bryanjunk777@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1171040805.558483.86510@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 9, 2:47 am, Not me <u...@foobar.com> wrote:
>> Ernie Els: considered to have one of the very best swings in golf.
>>
>> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200501/elsswing.jpg>
>>
>> Sergio Garcia: considered a great ball striker.
>>
>> "From left: Ball position just ahead of center. Shaft leans toward
>> target. Middle: Left arm and shaft form 90-degree angle at chin height;
>> a late set. Right: Shaft resting on shoulders indicates super-relaxed
>> arms.
>>
>> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200206/sergioswing.jpg>
>>
>> Nick Price: "one of the best ball-strikers ever" is how Golf Digest
>> describes him.
>>
>> <http://content-golf.live.advance.net/images/gd200312/priceswing.jpg>
>>
>> Now this ball *is* in the middle of his stance, but what does Nick have
>> to say about that?
>>
>> "Left: This ball position is better suited for a knockdown shot. I
>> prefer it a bit farther forward."
>>
>> <http://golfdigest.com/login/login.ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/index.
>> ssf?/instruction/swingsequences/gd200312price.html>
>>
>> (You'll have to do the free sign up for that last link, Sorry.
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>> So there you go. Three of the best swings in golf and not one of them is
>> playing the ball from the centre of his stance except as a specialty
>> shot...
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> Jack Nicklaus and Johnny Miller had some success with a single ball
> position, just inside the left shoulder.
>

Single ball position? Hm, that reminds of one Moe Norman. He had quite a bit
of success with a single ball position. In fact, he could strike the ball so
well from a single position that he could hit ball after ball from the same
tee without disturbing it one bit. He'd just place another ball on it and
strike it again.