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Date: 20 Jan 2007 08:18:46
From: No cameras and shut up while I am putting
Subject: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big
Now ...I dont recognize more than half of the players !! Very few of
the Big Names are even in the tourney ..How times
have changed....





 
Date: 26 Jan 2007 10:16:09
From: warren montgomery
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big
> Now ...I dont recognize more than half of the players !! Very few of
> the Big Names are even in the tourney ..How times
> have changed....
>
Same reason they don't go a lot of other places -- too much money available
without playing there. Time was when all the pros played every week because
that's how you made a living at it. Now the top players get more money off
endorsements than playing so they only have to play often enough to maintain
their endorsement value. (Speaking of which does anyone else find it
hillarious to see Phil Michelson talking about some driver (a big bertha I
think) that can change your game -- I suppose hitting it into a trash bag is
a change :-)
--
Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery




 
Date: 23 Jan 2007 09:00:02
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win ..
Oh please.

Stop romanticising golf like it's anything more than a support group for
the impotent.



 
Date: 23 Jan 2007 05:14:18
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big

No cameras and shut up while I am putting wrote:
> "R&B" wrote:
> > "No cameras and shut up while I am putting" <fastpitstops@aol.com> wrote ...
> > > Now ...I dont recognize more than half of the players !! Very few of
> > > the Big Names are even in the tourney ..How times
> > > have changed....
> >
> >
> > Please enlighten us.
> >
> > When, pray tell, was the Bob Hope Desert Classic ever "THEE tourney to win."
> >
[snip]
> Gee golly Randy ..didnt know you were so concerned. Perhaps my post
> was
> not clear. Oh never mind .....Why do i care what the hell you think ?
[snip]

Oh, this is classic. A guy posts, to a discussion group, an opinion
based upon an unsupported assertion, on a topic no one asked about
and when he gets a response says "Why do i care what the hell you think
?"

And they say irony is dead.



  
Date: 24 Jan 2007 13:00:57
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big
<oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote in message
news:1169558058.385407.187100@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>
> No cameras and shut up while I am putting wrote:
>> "R&B" wrote:
>> > "No cameras and shut up while I am putting" <fastpitstops@aol.com>
>> > wrote ...
>> > > Now ...I dont recognize more than half of the players !! Very few
>> > > of
>> > > the Big Names are even in the tourney ..How times
>> > > have changed....
>> >
>> >
>> > Please enlighten us.
>> >
>> > When, pray tell, was the Bob Hope Desert Classic ever "THEE tourney to
>> > win."
>> >
> [snip]
>> Gee golly Randy ..didnt know you were so concerned. Perhaps my post
>> was
>> not clear. Oh never mind .....Why do i care what the hell you think ?
> [snip]
>
> Oh, this is classic. A guy posts, to a discussion group, an opinion
> based upon an unsupported assertion, on a topic no one asked about
> and when he gets a response says "Why do i care what the hell you think
> ?"
>
> And they say irony is dead.

Exactly.

Randy




 
Date: 22 Jan 2007 18:38:00
From: No cameras and shut up while I am putting
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big

"R&B" wrote:
> "No cameras and shut up while I am putting" <fastpitstops@aol.com> wrote ...
> > Now ...I dont recognize more than half of the players !! Very few of
> > the Big Names are even in the tourney ..How times
> > have changed....
>
>
> Please enlighten us.
>
> When, pray tell, was the Bob Hope Desert Classic ever "THEE tourney to win."
>
> Maybe for amateurs it was (although I would argue that the Pebble Beach
> National Pro-Am has always been a more prestigious tournament for amateurs
> to win). But certainly for the pros, the Hope has never been "THEE tourney
> to win." That's just lunacy.
>
> Randy

Gee golly Randy ..didnt know you were so concerned. Perhaps my post
was
not clear. Oh never mind .....Why do i care what the hell you think ?
..NOW ***THAT ***
WOULD BE LUNACY ...



  
Date: 24 Jan 2007 13:03:27
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big
"No cameras and shut up while I am putting" <fastpitstops@aol.com > wrote in
message news:1169519880.543277.278430@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
>
> "R&B" wrote:
>> "No cameras and shut up while I am putting" <fastpitstops@aol.com> wrote
>> ...
>> > Now ...I dont recognize more than half of the players !! Very few of
>> > the Big Names are even in the tourney ..How times
>> > have changed....
>>
>>
>> Please enlighten us.
>>
>> When, pray tell, was the Bob Hope Desert Classic ever "THEE tourney to
>> win."
>>
>> Maybe for amateurs it was (although I would argue that the Pebble Beach
>> National Pro-Am has always been a more prestigious tournament for
>> amateurs
>> to win). But certainly for the pros, the Hope has never been "THEE
>> tourney
>> to win." That's just lunacy.
>>
>> Randy
>
> Gee golly Randy ..didnt know you were so concerned. Perhaps my post
> was
> not clear. Oh never mind .....Why do i care what the hell you think ?
> ..NOW ***THAT ***
> WOULD BE LUNACY ...


You're the one who made the assertion that the "Bob Hope was THEEE tourney
to win" (it was in your header).

Now, I'm just wondering. When was it that the Bob Hope tournament was
"THEEE tournament to win?"

You failed to answer the question.

Randy




 
Date: 21 Jan 2007 23:28:01
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big
"No cameras and shut up while I am putting" <fastpitstops@aol.com > wrote ...
> Now ...I dont recognize more than half of the players !! Very few of
> the Big Names are even in the tourney ..How times
> have changed....


Please enlighten us.

When, pray tell, was the Bob Hope Desert Classic ever "THEE tourney to win."

Maybe for amateurs it was (although I would argue that the Pebble Beach
National Pro-Am has always been a more prestigious tournament for amateurs
to win). But certainly for the pros, the Hope has never been "THEE tourney
to win." That's just lunacy.

Randy




 
Date: 20 Jan 2007 09:22:09
From: Howard
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big
Robert Hamilton wrote:

> The "celebrities" aren't what they were. Somehow Lopez and Romano don't
> have the punch of Hope and Crosby.

Can anyone "explain" George Lopez to me? I've never seen the show, in
fact until 1 month ago I had never heard of him at all. Now since they
started promoting the Hope I've seen him 5 or 6 times in very short
doses. In each instance I have had the same impression: "Who is this
guy and how did he get on TV?"



  
Date: 26 Jan 2007 10:13:29
From: warren montgomery
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big
>
> Can anyone "explain" George Lopez to me? I've never seen the show, in
> fact until 1 month ago I had never heard of him at all. Now since they
> started promoting the Hope I've seen him 5 or 6 times in very short
> doses. In each instance I have had the same impression: "Who is this
> guy and how did he get on TV?"
>
What I can't figure out is that whenever the Golf Channel refers to the
tournament they always add the tag line "Hosted by George Lopez". Did he
(or someone sponsoring him) buy that? Is this an attempt to somehow
substitute his name for Hope's on the tournament? I can see that the time
will come when those who watched Bob Hope are no longer watching golf and
his name will be no more draw than, say, W.C. Fields. Maybe Lopez is well
known in some circles and they feel he is a suitable replacement? I've
never seen him in anything other than celebrity golf, but I don't watch
sitcoms and don't go to comedy clubs so he could be famous and I'd never
have seen him.
--
Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery




  
Date: 21 Jan 2007 16:36:45
From: John Reddy
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big
In article <1169313729.793522.153660@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"Howard" <hjkoop@shaw.ca > wrote:

> Can anyone "explain" George Lopez to me?

A has-been / never-was with an excellent agent.


 
Date: 20 Jan 2007 17:09:17
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be


No cameras and shut up while I am putting wrote:

> Now ...I dont recognize more than half of the players !! Very few of
> the Big Names are even in the tourney ..How times
> have changed....

The "celebrities" aren't what they were. Somehow Lopez and Romano don't
have the punch of Hope and Crosby. Go figure! IMHO, the celebrities
greatly detract for watching the event. Somehow, I just don't get anything
out of watching Kenny G play golf. He may shoot better scores than Jack
Lemon, but his is nowhere near the golfer Lemon was. Although I've
probably been too traumatized by riding in too many elevators to evaluate
anything Kenny G does in an unbiased manner.




  
Date: 20 Jan 2007 23:50:38
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:09:17 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net >
wrote:

>The "celebrities" aren't what they were. Somehow Lopez and Romano don't
>have the punch of Hope and Crosby.

Who does? The star system is very different than it once was.

The biggest stars these days may well be athletes.


   
Date: 21 Jan 2007 01:09:16
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be


Howard Brazee wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:09:17 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >The "celebrities" aren't what they were. Somehow Lopez and Romano don't
> >have the punch of Hope and Crosby.
>
> Who does? The star system is very different than it once was.
>
> The biggest stars these days may well be athletes.

Really. Pitt, Depp, Cage, Ford...a little more substantive as stars than
Romano and Lopez. Lopez and Romano would be like getting Bob Crane and Telly
Savalas back in the day..no wait, Crane and Savalas would have more punch
than Romano and Lopez. I would have to think of stars from some lame TV
shows that lasted a couple of years and then died.




    
Date: 21 Jan 2007 03:26:05
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:09:16 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net >
wrote:

>Really. Pitt, Depp, Cage, Ford...a little more substantive as stars than
>Romano and Lopez. Lopez and Romano would be like getting Bob Crane and Telly
>Savalas back in the day..no wait, Crane and Savalas would have more punch
>than Romano and Lopez. I would have to think of stars from some lame TV
>shows that lasted a couple of years and then died.

Sure, but these days we don't follow everything even big name stars do
for recreation.

I basically stopped watching regular TV shows several decades ago. I
don't know why I'm not interested anymore - certainly the quality of
the top 10% (not Sturgeon's crud) is better than what I watched in my
youth.

This is a TV era. More people watch TV than movies. This dilutes
the star system. Who would be more likely to watch a golf
tournament - on TV - if Harrison Ford was the celebrity instead of a
TV star?


  
Date: 20 Jan 2007 10:15:40
From: Bob L
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just be there to play ...Big Big

"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote in message
news:45B24A88.B5776DFB@att.net...
>
>
> No cameras and shut up while I am putting wrote:
>
>> Now ...I dont recognize more than half of the players !! Very few of
>> the Big Names are even in the tourney ..How times
>> have changed....
>
> The "celebrities" aren't what they were. Somehow Lopez and Romano don't
> have the punch of Hope and Crosby. Go figure! IMHO, the celebrities
> greatly detract for watching the event. Somehow, I just don't get anything
> out of watching Kenny G play golf. He may shoot better scores than Jack
> Lemon, but his is nowhere near the golfer Lemon was. Although I've
> probably been too traumatized by riding in too many elevators to evaluate
> anything Kenny G does in an unbiased manner.
>
>

The broadcast isn't what it used to be either. I can't stand Faldo's
continuous st-ass reks and Tiligman's incompetence. The TGC Hope
broadcast is near unwatchable. I'll bet that CBS will rue the day they
fired Lanny Wadkins and hired Faldo.




   
Date: 20 Jan 2007 18:29:45
From: i.smithee
Subject: Re: Back in the Day : The Bob Hope was THEEE tourney to win .. just
Bob L wrote:

>
> The broadcast isn't what it used to be either. I can't stand Faldo's
> continuous st-ass reks and Tiligman's incompetence. The TGC Hope
> broadcast is near unwatchable. I'll bet that CBS will rue the day they
> fired Lanny Wadkins and hired Faldo.

Don't think that will happen. Can't ever remember Lanny saying anything
that wasn't MyGoshInYourFaceFreakinObvious!!

However, that isn't my beef. My question is who is George Lopez? I know
now that he has or had a TV show, but until I started seeing promos for
the Hope I had never heard of him. Even now, when I do catch him on TV
for a second or 2 my thought is always the same; how did this guy get on
television?