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Date: 29 Mar 2007 02:07:44
From: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
Subject: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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I've had one for years and can't hit it worth a damn even though i hit a
2 iron quite well. I can't recall an announcer ever saying a pro is
hitting one.
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 10:11:26
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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> Now I am even more skeptical. Your story simply doesn't add up.
> I know a few people (Sparky and Young Joseph, for example) who are
> legitimate long knockers and could carry a 1-iron 235 (235 is more
> like a 3-iron for Young Joseph). But they don't hit their 6-irons
> only 170-175. That's closer to an 8-iron for them.
Back when I could hit the ball, and hit a 1-iron, I hit my 1-iron 230
and my 6-iron 180 (2-220,3-210,4-200, etc). It isn't that
unbelievable. (Oh, and those are "fly" distances, not roll)
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 19:57:45
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 30, 4:59 pm, "S.D." <s...@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
>
> For the skeptical - I am in my mid 50's; 35" waist, 44.5" chest, 5'10 -
> 205lbs (on scale at Dr's 2months ago). I played Titleist 670MB's with
> S300s' then moved to 735cm's with standard rifle 6.2's from
> introduction; switched to Callaway X-forged PX Flighted 6.0 Rifles a
> week ago. My 6i=170-175 carry with really pureed shots out 180yds:) My
> driver is 905-S with a Grafalloy Blue (S) shaft and my TE Exotic 15* 3wd
> has a Blue in it as well.
Now I am even more skeptical. Your story simply doesn't add up.
I know a few people (Sparky and Young Joseph, for example) who are
legitimate long knockers and could carry a 1-iron 235 (235 is more
like a 3-iron for Young Joseph). But they don't hit their 6-irons
only 170-175. That's closer to an 8-iron for them.
Also, if you are as strong as you say (I don't doubt that part of the
story since I have no way of knowing), Rifle 6.0 shafts are way too
weak for you. Maybe that's why you only hit your 6-iron 170?
I happen to play Rifle 6.0 shafts myself and I'm a slow swinger who
hits a 6-iron about 152-153. Every fuckin time.
Like I said before, I'll bet there aren't 5 people here who
consistently carry a Driver 235, let alone a 1-iron. Sparky can do it
easily, of course, and David Sneddon can as well. Big Tex probably
can if he gets ahold of one. Ken Pitts and Bellomy MIGHT be able to
do it on a good day, but I'll bet their carry distance averages less
than that.
235 in the air is a long way. If you don't believe it try hitting one
235 over water.
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 09:12:36
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 6 Apr 2007 19:57:45 -0700, annika1980 wrote:
> Now I am even more skeptical.
You need to get out more ...
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Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 23:59:18
From: gary hayenga
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 2007-04-06 22:57:45 -0400, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > said:
> On 30, 4:59 pm, "S.D." <s...@twomuchspam.com> wrote:
>>
>> For the skeptical - I am in my mid 50's; 35" waist, 44.5" chest, 5'10 -
>> 205lbs (on scale at Dr's 2months ago). I played Titleist 670MB's with
>> S300s' then moved to 735cm's with standard rifle 6.2's from
>> introduction; switched to Callaway X-forged PX Flighted 6.0 Rifles a
>> week ago. My 6i=170-175 carry with really pureed shots out 180yds:) My
>> driver is 905-S with a Grafalloy Blue (S) shaft and my TE Exotic 15* 3wd
>> has a Blue in it as well.
>
> Now I am even more skeptical. Your story simply doesn't add up.
> I know a few people (Sparky and Young Joseph, for example) who are
> legitimate long knockers and could carry a 1-iron 235 (235 is more
> like a 3-iron for Young Joseph). But they don't hit their 6-irons
> only 170-175. That's closer to an 8-iron for them.
As a matter of fact the last time I played with Sparky he and I were
both about 175 out and I hit the green with a nice solid 5-iron shot,
and Sparky stuck it to 10 feet with an 8-iron.
Of course, Sparky was hitting his second shot and I was hitting my
third on the 495 yard par 5.
gary hayenga
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 03:22:35
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 6 Apr 2007 19:57:45 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
>On 30, 4:59 pm, "S.D." <s...@twomuchspam.com> wrote:
>>
>> For the skeptical - I am in my mid 50's; 35" waist, 44.5" chest, 5'10 -
>> 205lbs (on scale at Dr's 2months ago). I played Titleist 670MB's with
>> S300s' then moved to 735cm's with standard rifle 6.2's from
>> introduction; switched to Callaway X-forged PX Flighted 6.0 Rifles a
>> week ago. My 6i=170-175 carry with really pureed shots out 180yds:) My
>> driver is 905-S with a Grafalloy Blue (S) shaft and my TE Exotic 15* 3wd
>> has a Blue in it as well.
>
>Now I am even more skeptical. Your story simply doesn't add up.
>I know a few people (Sparky and Young Joseph, for example) who are
>legitimate long knockers and could carry a 1-iron 235 (235 is more
>like a 3-iron for Young Joseph). But they don't hit their 6-irons
>only 170-175. That's closer to an 8-iron for them.
>Also, if you are as strong as you say (I don't doubt that part of the
>story since I have no way of knowing), Rifle 6.0 shafts are way too
>weak for you. Maybe that's why you only hit your 6-iron 170?
>
>I happen to play Rifle 6.0 shafts myself and I'm a slow swinger who
>hits a 6-iron about 152-153. Every fuckin time.
>
>Like I said before, I'll bet there aren't 5 people here who
>consistently carry a Driver 235, let alone a 1-iron. Sparky can do it
>easily, of course, and David Sneddon can as well. Big Tex probably
>can if he gets ahold of one. Ken Pitts and Bellomy MIGHT be able to
>do it on a good day, but I'll bet their carry distance averages less
>than that.
>
>235 in the air is a long way. If you don't believe it try hitting one
>235 over water.
>
I'll bet that aren't but two who give a shit.
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\o
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 16:36:42
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Thu, 29 2007 02:07:44 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
wrote:
> I've had one for years and can't hit it worth a damn even though i hit a
> 2 iron quite well.
Let me say I apologize to you for mis-reading your post ... Thanks to a
rude poster, I was informed that you only wanted to know what "pros"
carry 1 irons. I thought since you included yourself it was ok for me
to respond with a few pro names as a partial answer and my experiences.
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Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 01 Apr 2007 23:43:54
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Apr 2, 1:08 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2007 21:12:45 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >On 30, 8:52 pm, "Sparky" <b...@funco.com> wrote:
> >> Heck, I believe him. I've been playing for less time than he has and I hit
> >> the ball longer and score better than he does and I'm only 5 to ten years
> >> younger than him. I will say though that unless he learns to become a
>
> >I believe him too. It is not unusual to become a very good striker of
> >the ball if you have good ahtletic ability and above average eye/hand
> >talent. Good swing speed and consistent contact is not magic. What
> >is unusual is coupling that physical ability with a strong mind and
> >unending desire to conquer the mental rigors of the game. The former
> >are a dime a dozen, the latter rare and indicate competitive amateurs
> >and professionals.
>
> >I also believe the majority of rereational golfers would not believe
> >this particular 1-iron story because they suffer in mediocrity. It's
> >easier to doubt the abilities of others than to admit that you suck.
>
> Who said anything about a majority? I'm pretty sure that Sparky can
> reach those distances, but there are too many RSG braggarts that have
> an uncanny way of not knowing their ass about distance. Your naivete
> is showing.
>
> We have a good number of very long hitters at my club, but a 235 yard
> carry with a 1-iron is rare, and none of them are 50 years old. I
> doubt this story, and I admit that my game sucks. You probably
> believed LLLLLarrry's 1-iron story too.
Poster S.D. has no history of bravado here. You're telling him he's
full of shit because Larry is? Why the negativity?
As for the very long hitters at your club, how many carry a 1-iron?
How many have you seen hit the 1-iron? Have you ever played with them
when they hit the 1-iron? If your game sucks I kinda doubt you ever
rolled with guys that wield a good 1-iron. What exactly makes you
such an expert on the 1-iron?
Old Ping-Eye 1-irons are not too hard to hit, by the way. Off a tee,
anyway.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 13:39:11
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 1 Apr 2007 23:43:54 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herbert@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>Poster S.D. has no history of bravado here. You're telling him he's
>full of shit because Larry is? Why the negativity?
Surely you jest. Having been on this news group for over ten years,
and playing golf for forty years, I've come to the conclusion that
very few golfers have a clue about distances, and most tend to
exaggerate.
>
>As for the very long hitters at your club, how many carry a 1-iron?
Seven
>How many have you seen hit the 1-iron?
Seven
> Have you ever played with them when they hit the 1-iron?
Isn't this the same question as the one above?
> If your game sucks I kinda doubt you everrolled with guys that wield a good 1-iron.
My game sucks because of age and physical problems. At one time my
handicap was a low single digit...and I hit my one iron very well.
Why the negativity? There hasn't been any bravado from me.
> What exactly makes you such an expert on the 1-iron?
I would guess what exactly makes you such an expert. It's just my
opinion. What would make your opinion more valid?
>
>Old Ping-Eye 1-irons are not too hard to hit, by the way. Off a tee,
>anyway.
That tells me about your game. Do you carry tees to place in the
fairway? The 1-iron is useful there, too.
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___,
\o
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Date: 01 Apr 2007 21:12:45
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 30, 8:52 pm, "Sparky" <b...@funco.com > wrote:
> Heck, I believe him. I've been playing for less time than he has and I hit
> the ball longer and score better than he does and I'm only 5 to ten years
> younger than him. I will say though that unless he learns to become a
I believe him too. It is not unusual to become a very good striker of
the ball if you have good ahtletic ability and above average eye/hand
talent. Good swing speed and consistent contact is not magic. What
is unusual is coupling that physical ability with a strong mind and
unending desire to conquer the mental rigors of the game. The former
are a dime a dozen, the latter rare and indicate competitive amateurs
and professionals.
I also believe the majority of rereational golfers would not believe
this particular 1-iron story because they suffer in mediocrity. It's
easier to doubt the abilities of others than to admit that you suck.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 13:13:07
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Apr 2, 2:55 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 2 Apr 2007 12:42:55 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It also lessens the chance you're mistaken for
> >a loud-mouth schnook.
>
> Well, there's no mistaking that you're one.
Ah, the old "I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I", good one, you knocked me
down there, I submit.
Who do you like at the Masters...and for a dark horse? I like Phil
and Krista co, and any number of the under-rated Australians as a
dark-horse...for second anyway. Tiger wins easily.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 20:23:39
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 2 Apr 2007 13:13:07 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herbert@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>On Apr 2, 2:55 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> On 2 Apr 2007 12:42:55 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > It also lessens the chance you're mistaken for
>> >a loud-mouth schnook.
>>
>> Well, there's no mistaking that you're one.
>
>Ah, the old "I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I", good one, you knocked me
>down there, I submit.
>
Don't ever give up.
>Who do you like at the Masters...and for a dark horse? I like Phil
>and Krista co, and any number of the under-rated Australians as a
>dark-horse...for second anyway. Tiger wins easily.
>
We're finally in accord...at least for first place. I have a buddy
that bets $100 on the field against TW on every tournament he plays.
Then someone comes up and bets him $100 that Phil will beat him.
Damned good insurance.
___,
\o
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 06:08:46
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 1 Apr 2007 21:12:45 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herbert@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>
>
>On 30, 8:52 pm, "Sparky" <b...@funco.com> wrote:
>> Heck, I believe him. I've been playing for less time than he has and I hit
>> the ball longer and score better than he does and I'm only 5 to ten years
>> younger than him. I will say though that unless he learns to become a
>
>I believe him too. It is not unusual to become a very good striker of
>the ball if you have good ahtletic ability and above average eye/hand
>talent. Good swing speed and consistent contact is not magic. What
>is unusual is coupling that physical ability with a strong mind and
>unending desire to conquer the mental rigors of the game. The former
>are a dime a dozen, the latter rare and indicate competitive amateurs
>and professionals.
>
>I also believe the majority of rereational golfers would not believe
>this particular 1-iron story because they suffer in mediocrity. It's
>easier to doubt the abilities of others than to admit that you suck.
>
Who said anything about a majority? I'm pretty sure that Sparky can
reach those distances, but there are too many RSG braggarts that have
an uncanny way of not knowing their ass about distance. Your naivete
is showing.
We have a good number of very long hitters at my club, but a 235 yard
carry with a 1-iron is rare, and none of them are 50 years old. I
doubt this story, and I admit that my game sucks. You probably
believed LLLLLarrry's 1-iron story too.
--
___,
\o
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 11:22:53
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 06:08:46 GMT, Bobby Knight wrote:
> We have a good number of very long hitters at my club, but a 235 yard
> carry with a 1-iron is rare, and none of them are 50 years old.
Yesterday my wife and I went to a favorite track of ours in SDCty named
Mt Woodson, 6004yd target track sloped at 134 and difficult, especially
when the breeze is up; lots of forced carry's, narrow fairways and
greens that don't hold well so shot placement is key.
http://www.mtwoodson.com/ click "Golf Course - select course tour -
page over to #17 348yds, from elevated tee - using new ProV - 1 iron
(16*) off the back tee, perfect trajectory shot clearing left bunker in
the middle, down to second level, roll out finishing short of triangle
shaped bunker, leaving 67yds slightly down hill to tight red right pin
on crown; to much spin right leaving me 12' uphill putt - 2putt for par.
#18 408yd slight down hill - 1 iron 230yds off the tee; finishing in
right rough 2' leaving 178yds to pin, hit a 6i to 10' of pin. Didn't
pull my driver but once yesterday, used 1-3 or 5i on par 4's and 5'.
I have absolutly nothing to gain by telling a bunch of strangers this -
other then some of us don't have the same abilities - regardless of age.
By the way, I am not all that long with the driver -250 carry and I
can't afford to exaggerate since I play for more then .25 skins.
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Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 18:46:04
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:22:53 -0700, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 06:08:46 GMT, Bobby Knight wrote:
>
>> We have a good number of very long hitters at my club, but a 235 yard
>> carry with a 1-iron is rare, and none of them are 50 years old.
>
>Yesterday my wife and I went to a favorite track of ours in SDCty named
>Mt Woodson, 6004yd target track sloped at 134 and difficult, especially
>when the breeze is up; lots of forced carry's, narrow fairways and
>greens that don't hold well so shot placement is key.
>
>http://www.mtwoodson.com/ click "Golf Course - select course tour -
>page over to #17 348yds, from elevated tee - using new ProV - 1 iron
>(16*) off the back tee, perfect trajectory shot clearing left bunker in
>the middle, down to second level, roll out finishing short of triangle
>shaped bunker, leaving 67yds slightly down hill to tight red right pin
>on crown; to much spin right leaving me 12' uphill putt - 2putt for par.
>#18 408yd slight down hill - 1 iron 230yds off the tee; finishing in
>right rough 2' leaving 178yds to pin, hit a 6i to 10' of pin. Didn't
>pull my driver but once yesterday, used 1-3 or 5i on par 4's and 5'.
>
>I have absolutly nothing to gain by telling a bunch of strangers this -
>other then some of us don't have the same abilities - regardless of age.
>By the way, I am not all that long with the driver -250 carry and I
>can't afford to exaggerate since I play for more then .25 skins.
There's nothing personal about this. You very well may be able to do
what you claim. Given the general overstatements that are seen here
though, it's prudent, IMHO, to believe only what you see.
There are a lot of us who play for much more than quarter skins, so
that doesn't matter at all.
Yesterday, one of our group walked away with about $380...and last
week one won $1040. Neither hits a 1-iron.
___,
\o
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 13:45:01
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:46:04 GMT, Bobby Knight wrote:
> There's nothing personal about this. You very well may be able to do
> what you claim. Given the general overstatements that are seen here
> though, it's prudent, IMHO, to believe only what you see.
Personal... you're calling me a liar, that's personal... You've been
hanging out in NG's to long.
As for my 1 iron, the question was asked, I responded in truth, and
never implied anything remotely derogatory about those that carry
hybrids because they can't hit long irons. Then again, to each his own
skill and I don't call anybody a liar unless I am face to face with them
and know for a fact, they are lying.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 17:52:59
From: David Geesaman
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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S.D. wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:46:04 GMT, Bobby Knight wrote:
>
>> There's nothing personal about this. You very well may be able to do
>> what you claim. Given the general overstatements that are seen here
>> though, it's prudent, IMHO, to believe only what you see.
>
> Personal... you're calling me a liar, that's personal... You've been
> hanging out in NG's to long.
>
> As for my 1 iron, the question was asked, I responded in truth, and
> never implied anything remotely derogatory about those that carry
> hybrids because they can't hit long irons. Then again, to each his own
> skill and I don't call anybody a liar unless I am face to face with them
> and know for a fact, they are lying.
Don't worry about the crotchety old creaking sounds in here: your
contribution to the original poster's question stands as ample authority.
But I do empathize with BK's tiring of exaggeration - most of us do only
measure our great shots, and in many cases those are the shots to base
our course strategy on. (the courses I play are such that long shots
are horribly penal and short shots are just a chip-putt par - so my
'distances' are biased long than the mean by intention.) If I were
asked to quote my distances for each club, I would probably mention that
though. Not to mention that many golfers are playing very strong lofted
irons with distance balls. Most golfers will never admit or even
conceive of such things, and so what you will read w.r.t. this subject
on this ng is historically quite crappy.
I'm not justifying his personal attack on you, which he seems to be
unable to recognize, but in most cases he wouldn't have been so far left
of center.
Dave
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 15:59:02
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 17:52:59 -0400, David Geesaman wrote:
> most of us do only
> measure our great shots, and in many cases those are the shots to base
> our course strategy on.
I play 6600yd - 7000yd tracks (usually sloped 128-142 - greens 10.5-11.5
and some cases 12) which requires all 14 clubs to score. ProV or ProV1X
and X-Forged standard lofts (which are strong compared to my old
blades). If I am in a money game or team play and face a go for it in
two Par5, it's driver, 3wd...no 1 iron off the deck; otherwise any one
of my long irons might be chosen for lay up, depends on how long the
hole is.
Unlike average "Joe" hicapers, knowing my "average" carry yardages of
each club is imperative for me; and, its just as important to know my
ball roll out yardages on different conditioned fairways and greens.
Reason is - I play with and against +4 to 16's in both inter-club team
play, club tournaments and now and again in really charged Calcutta's
where 2-man team fly in from all over the US, teams auction off on
Friday night run upwards of 8k and Sunday pots can be over 60k, paying
the top 3-7 teams; major kick:)
Thanks for your kind and civil words:)
--
Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 22:09:15
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 17:52:59 -0400, David Geesaman
<dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com > wrote:
>But I do empathize with BK's tiring of exaggeration - most of us do only
>measure our great shots, and in many cases those are the shots to base
>our course strategy on. (the courses I play are such that long shots
>are horribly penal and short shots are just a chip-putt par - so my
>'distances' are biased long than the mean by intention.) If I were
>asked to quote my distances for each club, I would probably mention that
>though. Not to mention that many golfers are playing very strong lofted
>irons with distance balls. Most golfers will never admit or even
>conceive of such things, and so what you will read w.r.t. this subject
>on this ng is historically quite crappy.
>
>I'm not justifying his personal attack on you, which he seems to be
>unable to recognize, but in most cases he wouldn't have been so far left
>of center.
>
>Dave
I agree with all that you've said...except for there being anything
personal, other than criticizing his reading comprehension. Now
yours may come into question too. :-)
I don't know the guy, and have no idea if he can do what he
says....and up until the time that Herbert came into the discussion
all I said was "Oh, well". I just responded to him that I would have
to see it to believe it.
Jump Annika's ass if you want to blame someone who absolutely
laughed at his statement.
___,
\o
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 21:07:57
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:45:01 -0700, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:46:04 GMT, Bobby Knight wrote:
>
>> There's nothing personal about this. You very well may be able to do
>> what you claim. Given the general overstatements that are seen here
>> though, it's prudent, IMHO, to believe only what you see.
>
>Personal... you're calling me a liar, that's personal... You've been
>hanging out in NG's to long.
There was never a comment about you lying. I first just said "Oh,
well", and later said that you might be able to do what you claim, but
I don't know you, and haven't seen it. I have been in NGs a long
time, and have seen more than a few claim to be able to do things that
were out of the norm.
>
Maybe you're thinking about Annika1980 who DID call you to task,
saying;
>> "A 50-something that carries a 1-iron 235 on a rope?
>>And with a Rifle 6.0 to boot, which is what I hit.
>>Is your name really Larry?
>>I'll bet Hale friggin Irwin can't even do that!
>>I'll bet there aren't 5 people here who consistently carry a Driver
>>235, let alone a 1-iron. On a rope ... LOL!".
>>Annika1980
>As for my 1 iron, the question was asked, I responded in truth, and
>never implied anything remotely derogatory about those that carry
>hybrids because they can't hit long irons. Then again, to each his own
>skill and I don't call anybody a liar unless I am face to face with them
>and know for a fact, they are lying.
You were never asked to begin with. The thread is plainly "Are there
any pros who carry a driving iron"?
I never called you a liar, but you are sorta dense, since you had
someone else actually question you, and have a problem with me. Try
to go back and read what I wrote, or maybe get a high schooler to
explain it to you.
Oh. Just what would you do if someone called you a liar to your face?
Hit them? If so, you do need a teenager to explain things to you,
since you think alike.
___,
\o
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 01:55:39
From: Ishaam
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 29, 4:07 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I've had one for years and can't hit it worth a damn even though i hit a
> 2 iron quite well. I can't recall an announcer ever saying a pro is
> hitting one.
You're in luck as I recently discovered a resource from Jeff Taylor
that shows
you how to master the irons. There are old time pros that have done it
and
have laid the path for us struggling golfers to follow there methods.
If you are interested, then you can cehck out the resource here:
http://www.howtomasterthegolfirons.com
Ishaam
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 16:47:47
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 29, 2:29 pm, "S.D." <s...@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
> At my age (50's) I still have enough strength to hit a line drive long iron.
>
> My 1 iron (Standard Rifle 6.0 tapertip) is worth about 215-235 carry,
> when poorly stuck still over 200yds; 2i = 205-220 carry.
A 50-something that carries a 1-iron 235 on a rope?
And with a Rifle 6.0 to boot, which is what I hit.
Is your name really Larry?
I'll bet Hale friggin Irwin can't even do that!
I'll bet there aren't 5 people here who consistently carry a Driver
235, let alone a 1-iron. On a rope ... LOL!
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 09:46:17
From: dgeesaman@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Apr 2, 6:09 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 17:52:59 -0400, David Geesaman
>
>
>
>
>
> <dgeesamanIHateS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >But I do empathize with BK's tiring of exaggeration - most of us do only
> >measure our great shots, and in many cases those are the shots to base
> >our course strategy on. (the courses I play are such that long shots
> >are horribly penal and short shots are just a chip-putt par - so my
> >'distances' are biased long than the mean by intention.) If I were
> >asked to quote my distances for each club, I would probably mention that
> >though. Not to mention that many golfers are playing very strong lofted
> >irons with distance balls. Most golfers will never admit or even
> >conceive of such things, and so what you will read w.r.t. this subject
> >on this ng is historically quite crappy.
>
> >I'm not justifying his personal attack on you, which he seems to be
> >unable to recognize, but in most cases he wouldn't have been so far left
> >of center.
>
> >Dave
>
> I agree with all that you've said...except for there being anything
> personal, other than criticizing his reading comprehension. Now
> yours may come into question too. :-)
>
> I don't know the guy, and have no idea if he can do what he
> says....and up until the time that Herbert came into the discussion
> all I said was "Oh, well". I just responded to him that I would have
> to see it to believe it.
Since I was little bored just now and there is not much real golf
discussion, I re-read everything again carefully.
I must apologize for getting mixed in that you and "Herbert" were
having ad hominem discussions, and you weren't directly attacking S.D.
However, it's still not polite to come one step short of calling the
guy a liar, no matter what the past history of forum discussions is.
> Jump Annika's ass if you want to blame someone who absolutely
> laughed at his statement.
I wouldn't be surprised if he had. But I enjoy the killfiled silence
of his inane postings anymore, so if I cared I'd take your word for
it.
Dave
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 16:14:59
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 29 2007 16:47:47 -0700, annika1980 wrote:
> A 50-something that carries a 1-iron 235 on a rope?
> And with a Rifle 6.0 to boot, which is what I hit.
> Is your name really Larry?
No... my name isn't Larry.. who is he and have you met him?
It's true - I carry it between 225-235 depending on my joints and how
much Advil I took before teeing off:) Unlike many out of shape golfers
with pot beer bellies, I work out multiple times per week, and look
10-15yrs younger then my age:)
I hope you don't assume since you're younger that your physical strength
is greater, because that would be tactical mistake for a number of
reasons.
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 23:37:06
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 2-Apr-2007, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
> It's true - I carry it between 225-235 depending on my joints and how
> much Advil I took before teeing off:) Unlike many out of shape golfers
> with pot beer bellies, I work out multiple times per week, and look
> 10-15yrs younger then my age:)
>
> I hope you don't assume since you're younger that your physical strength
> is greater, because that would be tactical mistake for a number of
> reasons.
Except physical strength isn't the main thing needed for hittin the long
ball. Proper technique and flexability will do you a lot more good than raw
strength. I myself probably can only bench half what you do but I
guarantee you I'll fly you in the air with any club...
me
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 17:31:25
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 23:37:06 GMT, Sparky wrote:
> I myself probably can only bench half what you do but I
> guarantee you I'll fly you in the air with any club...
That's an interesting challenge; can I assume you bet real money as
well? - where you located and tell me why you think so? <G >
--
Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 03:31:06
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 3-Apr-2007, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
> > I myself probably can only bench half what you do but I
> > guarantee you I'll fly you in the air with any club...
>
> That's an interesting challenge; can I assume you bet real money as
> well? - where you located and tell me why you think so? <G>
!. Yes I'll bet real money.
2. I'm in Atlanta
3. Because I can.
me
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 07:23:42
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 03:31:06 GMT, Sparky wrote:
> !. Yes I'll bet real money.
What's real in your world?
> 2. I'm in Atlanta
I am in CA
> 3. Because I can.
Big ego hay <g >
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 12:22:26
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Apr 2, 1:57 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 2 Apr 2007 11:47:03 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 2, 8:39 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >> On 1 Apr 2007 23:43:54 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >Old Ping-Eye 1-irons are not too hard to hit, by the way. Off a tee,
> >> >anyway.
>
> >> That tells me about your game. Do you carry tees to place in the
> >> fairway? The 1-iron is useful there, too
>
> >No, sunshine...a tee like #17 at Pebble Beach. Why all the hatin'
> >anyway?
>
> Questioning isn't hating...and don't call me sunshine.
Questioning the integrity of people not based on fact is a poor
reflection of character.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 19:26:27
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 2 Apr 2007 12:22:26 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herbert@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>On Apr 2, 1:57 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> On 2 Apr 2007 11:47:03 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Apr 2, 8:39 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> >> On 1 Apr 2007 23:43:54 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Old Ping-Eye 1-irons are not too hard to hit, by the way. Off a tee,
>> >> >anyway.
>>
>> >> That tells me about your game. Do you carry tees to place in the
>> >> fairway? The 1-iron is useful there, too
>>
>> >No, sunshine...a tee like #17 at Pebble Beach. Why all the hatin'
>> >anyway?
>>
>> Questioning isn't hating...and don't call me sunshine.
>
>Questioning the integrity of people not based on fact is a poor
>reflection of character.
>
That's inane.. first, because accepting statements not based on fact
is just plain stupid. Secondly, I was questioning you, and your
character to begin with.
___,
\o
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 00:48:00
From: Silvio Bierman
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1175212067.651530.262640@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 29, 2:29 pm, "S.D." <s...@twomuchspam.com> wrote:
>
>> At my age (50's) I still have enough strength to hit a line drive long
>> iron.
>>
>> My 1 iron (Standard Rifle 6.0 tapertip) is worth about 215-235 carry,
>> when poorly stuck still over 200yds; 2i = 205-220 carry.
>
> A 50-something that carries a 1-iron 235 on a rope?
> And with a Rifle 6.0 to boot, which is what I hit.
> Is your name really Larry?
> I'll bet Hale friggin Irwin can't even do that!
>
> I'll bet there aren't 5 people here who consistently carry a Driver
> 235, let alone a 1-iron. On a rope ... LOL!
>
>
I don'ty think it is that strange a story. I am 41 and my MP33's are shafted
with 6.5 Rifles. I too prefer my 1 and 2 iron over woods. The shorter and
stiffer shafts allow for more control. Also, working long irons is quite
easy, I could not work a 3-wood if my life depended on it. I hit my 1i even
a bit longer but I doubt I will be able to do that at 50.
I do carry a driver for real distance, off course.
Regards,
Silvio Bierman
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Date: 31 Mar 2007 01:41:51
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 29 2007 16:47:47 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
wrote:
>I'll bet there aren't 5 people here who consistently carry a Driver
>235, let alone a 1-iron. On a rope ... LOL!
I'm bad - but I play at altitude.
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 13:59:40
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 29 2007 16:47:47 -0700, annika1980 wrote:
> A 50-something that carries a 1-iron 235 on a rope?
> And with a Rifle 6.0 to boot, which is what I hit.
> Is your name really Larry?
> I'll bet Hale friggin Irwin can't even do that!
Hale just might not because he has a swinger tempo and gets his SS help
from graphite. I am self-taught, a hitter with a faster then normal
tempo, load the shaft at 8oclock using my strength and fast hands
through the ball, and built nothing like HL:) thank God.
For the skeptical - I am in my mid 50's; 35" waist, 44.5" chest, 5'10 -
205lbs (on scale at Dr's 2months ago). I played Titleist 670MB's with
S300s' then moved to 735cm's with standard rifle 6.2's from
introduction; switched to Callaway X-forged PX Flighted 6.0 Rifles a
week ago. My 6i=170-175 carry with really pureed shots out 180yds:) My
driver is 905-S with a Grafalloy Blue (S) shaft and my TE Exotic 15* 3wd
has a Blue in it as well.
At the gym 3 times per wk; 120 sit ups with 80lbs of weight on my chest,
overheads 120lbs, leg lifts 100-120lbs, deep knee bends 200lbs; and
still road train periodically 40 miles on a road bike I use to race in
the senior category. By the way, I took up golf at 40 years old, single
digit 5yrs later, and my first round was 94 counting everything from the
white 6210yds tees.
If you don't believe that, oh well..
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 21:03:39
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Fri, 30 2007 13:59:40 -0700, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
>On 29 2007 16:47:47 -0700, annika1980 wrote:
>
>> A 50-something that carries a 1-iron 235 on a rope?
>> And with a Rifle 6.0 to boot, which is what I hit.
>> Is your name really Larry?
>> I'll bet Hale friggin Irwin can't even do that!
>
>Hale just might not because he has a swinger tempo and gets his SS help
>from graphite. I am self-taught, a hitter with a faster then normal
>tempo, load the shaft at 8oclock using my strength and fast hands
>through the ball, and built nothing like HL:) thank God.
>
>For the skeptical - I am in my mid 50's; 35" waist, 44.5" chest, 5'10 -
>205lbs (on scale at Dr's 2months ago). I played Titleist 670MB's with
>S300s' then moved to 735cm's with standard rifle 6.2's from
>introduction; switched to Callaway X-forged PX Flighted 6.0 Rifles a
>week ago. My 6i=170-175 carry with really pureed shots out 180yds:) My
>driver is 905-S with a Grafalloy Blue (S) shaft and my TE Exotic 15* 3wd
>has a Blue in it as well.
>
>At the gym 3 times per wk; 120 sit ups with 80lbs of weight on my chest,
>overheads 120lbs, leg lifts 100-120lbs, deep knee bends 200lbs; and
>still road train periodically 40 miles on a road bike I use to race in
>the senior category. By the way, I took up golf at 40 years old, single
>digit 5yrs later, and my first round was 94 counting everything from the
>white 6210yds tees.
>
>If you don't believe that, oh well..
Oh well.
___,
\o
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 12:42:55
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Apr 2, 2:26 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 2 Apr 2007 12:22:26 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Apr 2, 1:57 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >> On 2 Apr 2007 11:47:03 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Apr 2, 8:39 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >> >> On 1 Apr 2007 23:43:54 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >Old Ping-Eye 1-irons are not too hard to hit, by the way. Off a tee,
> >> >> >anyway.
>
> >> >> That tells me about your game. Do you carry tees to place in the
> >> >> fairway? The 1-iron is useful there, too
>
> >> >No, sunshine...a tee like #17 at Pebble Beach. Why all the hatin'
> >> >anyway?
>
> >> Questioning isn't hating...and don't call me sunshine.
>
> >Questioning the integrity of people not based on fact is a poor
> >reflection of character.
>
> That's inane.. first, because accepting statements not based on fact
> is just plain stupid.
Questioning a statement without attacking someone's integrity makes
for better discourse. It also lessens the chance you're mistaken for
a loud-mouth schnook.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 19:55:13
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 2 Apr 2007 12:42:55 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herbert@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>On Apr 2, 2:26 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> On 2 Apr 2007 12:22:26 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Apr 2, 1:57 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> >> On 2 Apr 2007 11:47:03 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Apr 2, 8:39 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> >> >> On 1 Apr 2007 23:43:54 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >Old Ping-Eye 1-irons are not too hard to hit, by the way. Off a tee,
>> >> >> >anyway.
>>
>> >> >> That tells me about your game. Do you carry tees to place in the
>> >> >> fairway? The 1-iron is useful there, too
>>
>> >> >No, sunshine...a tee like #17 at Pebble Beach. Why all the hatin'
>> >> >anyway?
>>
>> >> Questioning isn't hating...and don't call me sunshine.
>>
>> >Questioning the integrity of people not based on fact is a poor
>> >reflection of character.
>>
>> That's inane.. first, because accepting statements not based on fact
>> is just plain stupid.
>
>Questioning a statement without attacking someone's integrity makes
>for better discourse. \
That's exactly what I did with the OP. You're the one that first came
up with the subject of questioning integrity. Then your statement
about using tees for a 1-iron brought to my mind integrity and
character. I thought you were doing this from the fairway.
> It also lessens the chance you're mistaken for
>a loud-mouth schnook.
>
Well, there's no mistaking that you're one.
___,
\o
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Date: 31 Mar 2007 08:53:49
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Fri, 30 2007 21:03:39 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:
>On Fri, 30 2007 13:59:40 -0700, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com> wrote:
>
>>On 29 2007 16:47:47 -0700, annika1980 wrote:
>>
>>> A 50-something that carries a 1-iron 235 on a rope?
>>> And with a Rifle 6.0 to boot, which is what I hit.
>>> Is your name really Larry?
>>> I'll bet Hale friggin Irwin can't even do that!
>>
>>Hale just might not because he has a swinger tempo and gets his SS help
>>from graphite. I am self-taught, a hitter with a faster then normal
>>tempo, load the shaft at 8oclock using my strength and fast hands
>>through the ball, and built nothing like HL:) thank God.
>>
>>For the skeptical - I am in my mid 50's; 35" waist, 44.5" chest, 5'10 -
>>205lbs (on scale at Dr's 2months ago). I played Titleist 670MB's with
>>S300s' then moved to 735cm's with standard rifle 6.2's from
>>introduction; switched to Callaway X-forged PX Flighted 6.0 Rifles a
>>week ago. My 6i=170-175 carry with really pureed shots out 180yds:) My
>>driver is 905-S with a Grafalloy Blue (S) shaft and my TE Exotic 15* 3wd
>>has a Blue in it as well.
>>
>>At the gym 3 times per wk; 120 sit ups with 80lbs of weight on my chest,
>>overheads 120lbs, leg lifts 100-120lbs, deep knee bends 200lbs; and
>>still road train periodically 40 miles on a road bike I use to race in
>>the senior category. By the way, I took up golf at 40 years old, single
>>digit 5yrs later, and my first round was 94 counting everything from the
>>white 6210yds tees.
>>
>>If you don't believe that, oh well..
>
>Oh well.
> ___,
> \o
>
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Date: 31 Mar 2007 01:52:04
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 30--2007, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote:
> >On 29 2007 16:47:47 -0700, annika1980 wrote:
> >
> >> A 50-something that carries a 1-iron 235 on a rope?
> >> And with a Rifle 6.0 to boot, which is what I hit.
> >> Is your name really Larry?
> >> I'll bet Hale friggin Irwin can't even do that!
> >
> >Hale just might not because he has a swinger tempo and gets his SS help
> >from graphite. I am self-taught, a hitter with a faster then normal
> >tempo, load the shaft at 8oclock using my strength and fast hands
> >through the ball, and built nothing like HL:) thank God.
> >
> >For the skeptical - I am in my mid 50's; 35" waist, 44.5" chest, 5'10 -
> >205lbs (on scale at Dr's 2months ago). I played Titleist 670MB's with
> >S300s' then moved to 735cm's with standard rifle 6.2's from
> >introduction; switched to Callaway X-forged PX Flighted 6.0 Rifles a
> >week ago. My 6i=170-175 carry with really pureed shots out 180yds:) My
> >driver is 905-S with a Grafalloy Blue (S) shaft and my TE Exotic 15* 3wd
> >has a Blue in it as well.
> >
> >At the gym 3 times per wk; 120 sit ups with 80lbs of weight on my chest,
> >overheads 120lbs, leg lifts 100-120lbs, deep knee bends 200lbs; and
> >still road train periodically 40 miles on a road bike I use to race in
> >the senior category. By the way, I took up golf at 40 years old, single
> >digit 5yrs later, and my first round was 94 counting everything from the
> >white 6210yds tees.
> >
> >If you don't believe that, oh well..
>
> Oh well.
> ___,
Heck, I believe him. I've been playing for less time than he has and I hit
the ball longer and score better than he does and I'm only 5 to ten years
younger than him. I will say though that unless he learns to become a
swinger instead of a hitter he's going to drastically lose distance through
his 60's.....
me
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Date: 01 Apr 2007 06:31:59
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Sat, 31 2007 01:52:04 GMT, Sparky wrote:
> I will say though that unless he learns to become a
> swinger instead of a hitter he's going to drastically lose distance through
> his 60's.....
Spoken like a true man that knows all - about all - and probably is
"all"
--
Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 03:44:10
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 1-Apr-2007, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 31 2007 01:52:04 GMT, Sparky wrote:
>
> > I will say though that unless he learns to become a
> > swinger instead of a hitter he's going to drastically lose distance
> > through
> > his 60's.....
>
> Spoken like a true man that knows all - about all - and probably is
> "all"
Here's a hint:
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/68559375
me
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 07:22:18
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 03:44:10 GMT, Sparky wrote:
> Here's a hint:
LOL ... wow... you're name on your bag with Bridgestone and you look
unhappy; my name is on my bag as well, except mine has Titleist and I am
happy - now what? <g >
--
Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 01:04:21
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 4-Apr-2007, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
> > Here's a hint:
>
> LOL ... wow... you're name on your bag with Bridgestone and you look
> unhappy; my name is on my bag as well, except mine has Titleist and I am
> happy - now what? <g>
Yes, but unlike you and Titleist, Bridgestone gives me my stuff free in
exchange for putting my name on their bag and using thier equipment.
me
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 07:40:46
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 01:04:21 GMT, Sparky wrote:
> Yes, but unlike you and Titleist, Bridgestone gives me my stuff free in
> exchange for putting my name on their bag and using thier equipment.
Gosh, you's picture on the net -- does dat means yous somebody ofs
impotents? <g > S-plane whats could be the mottaves behind dem dar
Bridgestone folks? Couldn't find yous name on their site, just a high
foluten RSG tournament. And dit seems some boys had questions about
yous "sometimes" 4i? hummm and yous ability to hits da ball lefts when
it falls off does ignant tes.
betz you's a might fine striker - in dat RSG 2003 posting dat L.G. "83"
Maysbe dem boys at Bridgestone thinks winin da RSG pot an al and dat
closest to da pin thingy... means u's a big dog ... soz dis ole boy will
thows you some respect and pays clos attendion hopin to sees yous name
in lights.
--
Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 02:22:56
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 5-Apr-2007, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
> betz you's a might fine striker - in dat RSG 2003 posting dat L.G. "83"
> Maysbe dem boys at Bridgestone thinks winin da RSG pot an al and dat
> closest to da pin thingy... means u's a big dog ... soz dis ole boy will
> thows you some respect and pays clos attendion hopin to sees yous name
> in lights.
Yeah, and about 7 yrs ago I didn't even play golf , so what's yer point?
That I learn fast? Do you doubt my assertion that arm swingers or
"hitters" drastically lose distance as they age or do you not believe that
I can fly any shot you hit with the same club?
me
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 09:10:12
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 02:22:56 GMT, Sparky wrote:
> Yeah, and about 7 yrs ago I didn't even play golf , so what's yer point?
> That I learn fast? Do you doubt my assertion that arm swingers or
> "hitters" drastically lose distance as they age or do you not believe that
> I can fly any shot you hit with the same club?
The point, your ego is showing, and it's not your best side. There's
always someone that's accomplished more; plus I know many that hit the
ball farther then me - and, yes, I doubt your ass - ertion - Mo Norman
was a natural hitter... LOL -
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 09:15:45
From: glfnaz
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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"S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com > wrote in message
news:1pqy9toamweaz.w47xmudwdivd.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 02:22:56 GMT, Sparky wrote:
>
>> Yeah, and about 7 yrs ago I didn't even play golf , so what's yer point?
>> That I learn fast? Do you doubt my assertion that arm swingers or
>> "hitters" drastically lose distance as they age or do you not believe
>> that
>> I can fly any shot you hit with the same club?
>
> The point, your ego is showing, and it's not your best side. There's
> always someone that's accomplished more; plus I know many that hit the
> ball farther then me - and, yes, I doubt your ass - ertion - Mo Norman
> was a natural hitter... LOL -
>
Mo was a very short hitter.
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 14:02:51
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 7-Apr-2007, "glfnaz" <glfnaz@qwesttrash.com > wrote:
> "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:1pqy9toamweaz.w47xmudwdivd.dlg@40tude.net...
> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 02:22:56 GMT, Sparky wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, and about 7 yrs ago I didn't even play golf , so what's yer
> >> point?
> >> That I learn fast? Do you doubt my assertion that arm swingers or
> >> "hitters" drastically lose distance as they age or do you not believe
> >>
> >> that
> >> I can fly any shot you hit with the same club?
> >
> > The point, your ego is showing, and it's not your best side. There's
> > always someone that's accomplished more; plus I know many that hit the
> > ball farther then me - and, yes, I doubt your ass - ertion - Mo Norman
> > was a natural hitter... LOL -
> >
>
> Mo was a very short hitter.
...and he didn't hit the ball far either! "ba-dump bump!"
:-)
me
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 10:07:15
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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"Sparky" <biff@funco.com > wrote in message
news:l-6dnRuqo9Oego7bnZ2dnUVZ_tSunZ2d@giganews.com...
> Here's a hint:
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/68559375
>
>
> me
What are your total tour winnings?
Otto
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 20:13:15
From: BAR
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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Otto wrote:
> "Sparky" <biff@funco.com> wrote in message
> news:l-6dnRuqo9Oego7bnZ2dnUVZ_tSunZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>> Here's a hint:
>>
>> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/68559375
>>
>>
>> me
>
>
>
> What are your total tour winnings?
So, you measure of success at a profession is the money you earn instead
of the lives that you affect, for the better?
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Date: 04 Apr 2007 15:09:18
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 4-Apr-2007, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote:
> > Here's a hint:
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/68559375
> >
> >
> > me
>
>
>
> What are your total tour winnings?
Well, in spite of not having his a game, he beat me monday. Unlike the
Tiger-Smoltz relationship, no money changed hands.
--
bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 19:25:06
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
: I'll bet there aren't 5 people here who consistently carry a Driver
: 235, let alone a 1-iron.
I can, as long as you don't care which way it goes.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 11:33:49
From: Mister Hand
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 29, 12:20 pm, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspa...@bite.org >
wrote:
> On Thu, 29 2007 09:10:14 -0700, "S.D." <s...@twomuchspam.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, 29 2007 02:07:44 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> >wrote:
>
> >> I've had one for years and can't hit it worth a damn even though i hit a
> >> 2 iron quite well. I can't recall an announcer ever saying a pro is
> >> hitting one.
>
> >If you're refering to a 1 iron, I carry one and hit it about 230-235yds.
> >Joey Sindalar (TA 845) still pops his into the bag when no ones looking,
> >and so does DLIII. There are others, just not many. I also pop my 2i
> >into the bag depending on the track.
>
> What do you get out of your 1i/2i that you don't get out of a similar
> distance wood/hybrid? What makes you put it in the bag versus
> something else?
Cart girls swoon when they see you swing one.
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 09:10:14
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Thu, 29 2007 02:07:44 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
wrote:
> I've had one for years and can't hit it worth a damn even though i hit a
> 2 iron quite well. I can't recall an announcer ever saying a pro is
> hitting one.
If you're refering to a 1 iron, I carry one and hit it about 230-235yds.
Joey Sindalar (TA 845) still pops his into the bag when no ones looking,
and so does DLIII. There are others, just not many. I also pop my 2i
into the bag depending on the track.
--
Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 23:15:33
From: TriJan
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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S.D. wrote:
> On Thu, 29 2007 02:07:44 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> wrote:
>
>> I've had one for years and can't hit it worth a damn even though i hit a
>> 2 iron quite well. I can't recall an announcer ever saying a pro is
>> hitting one.
>
> If you're refering to a 1 iron, I carry one and hit it about 230-235yds.
That sucks - how old are you and what's your handicap? I hit a five wood
that far (off the fairway, not a tee).
Tri J
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 16:21:01
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Thu, 29 2007 23:15:33 +0100, TriJan wrote:
> That sucks - how old are you and what's your handicap? I hit a five wood
> that far (off the fairway, not a tee).
Sorry --- LOL - in my 50's and been carrying a single digit index for
many years; est on 128-140 sloped tracks. Aside from me, I have only
two buddy's that carry 1 irons - both similar in age and one (a college
stick) carry's his 230-240 depending on his joints and Advil:)
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Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 12:20:00
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Thu, 29 2007 09:10:14 -0700, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
>On Thu, 29 2007 02:07:44 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>wrote:
>
>> I've had one for years and can't hit it worth a damn even though i hit a
>> 2 iron quite well. I can't recall an announcer ever saying a pro is
>> hitting one.
>
>If you're refering to a 1 iron, I carry one and hit it about 230-235yds.
>Joey Sindalar (TA 845) still pops his into the bag when no ones looking,
>and so does DLIII. There are others, just not many. I also pop my 2i
>into the bag depending on the track.
What do you get out of your 1i/2i that you don't get out of a similar
distance wood/hybrid? What makes you put it in the bag versus
something else?
--
jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 11:47:03
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Apr 2, 8:39 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2007 23:43:54 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Old Ping-Eye 1-irons are not too hard to hit, by the way. Off a tee,
> >anyway.
>
> That tells me about your game. Do you carry tees to place in the
> fairway? The 1-iron is useful there, too
No, sunshine...a tee like #17 at Pebble Beach. Why all the hatin'
anyway?
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 18:57:27
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 2 Apr 2007 11:47:03 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herbert@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>On Apr 2, 8:39 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> On 1 Apr 2007 23:43:54 -0700, "Herbert" <humphrey_Herb...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Old Ping-Eye 1-irons are not too hard to hit, by the way. Off a tee,
>> >anyway.
>>
>> That tells me about your game. Do you carry tees to place in the
>> fairway? The 1-iron is useful there, too
>
>No, sunshine...a tee like #17 at Pebble Beach. Why all the hatin'
>anyway?
Questioning isn't hating...and don't call me sunshine.
___,
\o
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 05:57:55
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On 2-Apr-2007, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote:
> >No, sunshine...a tee like #17 at Pebble Beach. Why all the hatin'
> >anyway?
>
> Questioning isn't hating...and don't call me sunshine.
Shirley, you jest!
--
bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 12:54:35
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 05:57:55 GMT, "bill-o" <assimilate@borg.org > wrote:
>
>On 2-Apr-2007, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net> wrote:
>
>> >No, sunshine...a tee like #17 at Pebble Beach. Why all the hatin'
>> >anyway?
>>
>> Questioning isn't hating...and don't call me sunshine.
>
>Shirley, you jest!
That's more like it! :-)
--
___,
\o
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Date: 01 Apr 2007 15:34:19
From: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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John van der Pflum wrote:
>
> What do you get out of your 1i/2i that you don't get out of a similar
> distance wood/hybrid? What makes you put it in the bag versus
> something else?
Some people just have a tough time hitting woods. I'm that way. The
extra length seems to efup my swing.
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 15:18:17
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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"John van der Pflum" <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > wrote in message
news:vnpn03tmaq19mrbvgvq9f9kg67c7umi6li@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 2007 09:10:14 -0700, "S.D." <sd@twomuchspam.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 29 2007 02:07:44 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>>wrote:
>>
>>> I've had one for years and can't hit it worth a damn even though i hit a
>>> 2 iron quite well. I can't recall an announcer ever saying a pro is
>>> hitting one.
>>
>>If you're refering to a 1 iron, I carry one and hit it about 230-235yds.
>>Joey Sindalar (TA 845) still pops his into the bag when no ones looking,
>>and so does DLIII. There are others, just not many. I also pop my 2i
>>into the bag depending on the track.
>
> What do you get out of your 1i/2i that you don't get out of a similar
> distance wood/hybrid? What makes you put it in the bag versus
> something else?
> --
>
> jvdp
> RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
> http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
I like my long iron (3, etc.) for greater accuracy than my fwy woods. I can
put the ball pretty much exactly where I want vs. with the woods. Only when
I need a much higher trajectory will I use the 7/9wd (which I prefer to
hybrids).
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 11:29:12
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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On Thu, 29 2007 12:20:00 -0400, John van der Pflum wrote:
> What makes you put it in the bag versus
> something else?
Due to physical strength, arm length, faster then normal tempo and SS,
where I load the shaft and compact swing, I get more yardage and control
out 39.5 - 40" stiff irons then comparable stiff graphite shafted
fairway woods or hybrids. Besides being I am not on tour - they make
the game more fun for me.
I tried hybrids to see what the brewha was about. Even with NV 75 gr
(S) shaft I got more dispersion both left and right, and a higher
trajectory which isn't to my liking, especially in windy or rainy
conditions. Graphite and I don't get along really well. At my age
(50's) I still have enough strength to hit a line drive long iron.
My 1 iron (Standard Rifle 6.0 tapertip) is worth about 215-235 carry,
when poorly stuck still over 200yds; 2i = 205-220 carry. I play Rifle
Flighted 6.0 shafts in 2-PW.
Most important though, which ever I carry, it's always down the middle.
--
Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 28 Mar 2007 21:34:40
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Are there any pros who carry a driving iron??
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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote in
message news:QbFOh.19014$Jl.7110@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> I've had one for years and can't hit it worth a damn even though i hit a
> 2 iron quite well. I can't recall an announcer ever saying a pro is
> hitting one.
Were you alive for the last Open Championship or were you too busy driving
drunk?
Otto
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