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Date: 28 Jan 2007 02:38:17
From: bill-o
Subject: Approach shots
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Right after xmas Sparky and myself were playing a little exec course in the
area, Legacy Golf Links, and I noticed Sparky was hitting a lot of stiff
irons. Since this has not historically been his tradek I asked him what
was up. He explained he was taking more club and hitting with less effort.
Raymond Floyd advocates hitting the ball @ 80%, whatever the F that means.
Well after doing a drill my instructor uses to get my hips working, I'm
getting more of an idea of partial shots. He has me take what is basically a
chip stance: feet together slightly open then using the turning of my hips
as the power source I take a full swing and can either finish fully for a
higher shot or partially for a knock down. I seem to get about a club less
distance but much more control doing this on the course. I have used this
swing with all my clubs except the driver (I have practiced this shot on the
range) and 3W. So far I can see a clear improvement in hitting greens: over
the past 3-4 years I avg about 4-5 GIR per round and since I've been
experimenting with this method I'm hitting 6-7 a round and have hit 9 twice,
including today. I got hot on the front (our back) and hit 7 greens and made
3 birdies with my only bogey coming on a short downhill slider that I
babied. I should have missed the chip on the other side of the pin! 42-35 =
hockey sticks. Looks like tomorrow I get to practice the knockdown version
of this shot as winds are supposed to be 15-20mph.
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bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 28 Jan 2007 14:30:09
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Approach shots
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On Jan 28, 8:22 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net > wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:51:40 -0500, "Otto"
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> <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >40 mph winds here tomorrow.
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> >The hybrid hitters should have fun with those winds.For the amount of money some people pay for clubs, we should emulate
> the pros and have 16-18 clubs from which to choose which clubs to use
> today.
>
> Also - on a real windy day, grab the pro who probably had a lesson
> cancelled on him - and take a "wind lesson". Then when it is "too
> windy to practice" - go to the range and work on all clubs.
>
> Putting in strong winds can be difficult as well.
I wish 41/39 was my score on the back/front, but it was the temp when
I went out and when I finished. The wind was nasty. Birdied 17and had
a 6 footer for birdie on 18, but slapped it and it leaked right and
missed. Would have been nice to have finished birdie/birdie but birdie
par works for me.
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Date: 28 Jan 2007 12:00:20
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Approach shots
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On Jan 28, 1:23 pm, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net > wrote:
> On 28 Jan 2007 10:37:19 -0800, "Ben." <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >> Putting in strong winds can be difficult as well.
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> >Five Iron?I wasn't meaning to be funny.
I know - Fivey was anything but funny! ;)
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Date: 28 Jan 2007 10:37:19
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Approach shots
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On Jan 28, 8:22 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net > wrote:
> >The hybrid hitters should have fun with those winds.For the amount of money some people pay for clubs, we should emulate
> the pros and have 16-18 clubs from which to choose which clubs to use
> today.
>
> Also - on a real windy day, grab the pro who probably had a lesson
> cancelled on him - and take a "wind lesson". Then when it is "too
> windy to practice" - go to the range and work on all clubs.
>
> Putting in strong winds can be difficult as well.
Five Iron?
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Date: 29 Jan 2007 14:40:49
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Approach shots
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On 28-Jan-2007, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:
> > Putting in strong winds can be difficult as well.
Had a putt from the back fringe yesterday where the pin was on the bottom
shelf about 35-40ft from the ball with the slope of the shelf starting about
8-10 ft before the hole. The wind was blowing straight up the fairway from
tee to green. I was trying to coax the ball to the edge of the slope and let
Newton's law do the rest. Well, I hit what I thought was a perfectly paced
putt but the wind gusted and it slowed the ball to a halt about 3ft before
the start of the slope leaving me an awefull tricky 11-13ft putt that I
promtly blew 15 ft past the hole!
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bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 28 Jan 2007 19:23:44
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Approach shots
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On 28 Jan 2007 10:37:19 -0800, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:
>> Putting in strong winds can be difficult as well.
>
>Five Iron?
I wasn't meaning to be funny. I am not good at putting in strong
winds. I probably need to practice them, but we don't get strong
winds that often here, and when I do, I figure the opportunity to
figure them out for my long shots is too valuable.
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Date: 28 Jan 2007 04:45:31
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: Approach shots
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bill-o wrote:
> Right after xmas Sparky and myself were playing a little exec course in the
> area, Legacy Golf Links, and I noticed Sparky was hitting a lot of stiff
> irons. Since this has not historically been his tradek I asked him what
> was up. He explained he was taking more club and hitting with less effort.
> Raymond Floyd advocates hitting the ball @ 80%, whatever the F that means.
> Well after doing a drill my instructor uses to get my hips working, I'm
> getting more of an idea of partial shots. He has me take what is basically a
> chip stance: feet together slightly open then using the turning of my hips
> as the power source I take a full swing and can either finish fully for a
> higher shot or partially for a knock down. I seem to get about a club less
> distance but much more control doing this on the course. I have used this
> swing with all my clubs except the driver (I have practiced this shot on the
> range) and 3W. So far I can see a clear improvement in hitting greens: over
> the past 3-4 years I avg about 4-5 GIR per round and since I've been
> experimenting with this method I'm hitting 6-7 a round and have hit 9 twice,
> including today. I got hot on the front (our back) and hit 7 greens and made
> 3 birdies with my only bogey coming on a short downhill slider that I
> babied. I should have missed the chip on the other side of the pin! 42-35 =
> hockey sticks. Looks like tomorrow I get to practice the knockdown version
> of this shot as winds are supposed to be 15-20mph.
Should be a good day for golf here tomorrow too! They call for 44 degrees (F),
clear and sunny and wind chills in the 30's. The weather man says to "be
careful"! Should make for a nice open course for a sunday afternoon!
It rained all day today. You should be getting it about now.
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Date: 27 Jan 2007 23:51:40
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Approach shots
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"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote in message
news:45BC2830.94E240CA@att.net...
> Should be a good day for golf here tomorrow too! They call for 44 degrees
(F),
> clear and sunny and wind chills in the 30's. The weather man says to "be
> careful"! Should make for a nice open course for a sunday afternoon!
40 mph winds here tomorrow.
The hybrid hitters should have fun with those winds.
Otto
cargpb11
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Date: 28 Jan 2007 14:22:43
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Approach shots
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:51:40 -0500, "Otto"
<ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote:
>40 mph winds here tomorrow.
>
>The hybrid hitters should have fun with those winds.
For the amount of money some people pay for clubs, we should emulate
the pros and have 16-18 clubs from which to choose which clubs to use
today.
Also - on a real windy day, grab the pro who probably had a lesson
cancelled on him - and take a "wind lesson". Then when it is "too
windy to practice" - go to the range and work on all clubs.
Putting in strong winds can be difficult as well.
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Date: 28 Jan 2007 12:00:22
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Approach shots
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:nccpr2hnn2kbnfuk8ui5ojaribggncgd09@4ax.com...
> For the amount of money some people pay for clubs, we should emulate
> the pros and have 16-18 clubs from which to choose which clubs to use
> today.
That is an idea but it requires a swing developed to at least an advanced
intermediate level.
Hybrids stunt that swing development process.
Otto
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