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Date: 20 Mar 2007 14:24:41
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Subject: Another rules question...
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Sunday we had a tournement. On the very first green I was about the
same distance out as another guy. Actually I thought I was out so I
prepared to putt. Not known to me, the other guy thought he was out
and got ready to putt.
His back was to me so he didnt see me standing over my ball and the
bill of my hat prevented me from seeing him standing over his ball.
You guessed it. We both putted at the same time.....there wasnt 1/10th
of a second between the sounds of the two putts. Oh crap! I realized
right away there was a problem and my heart sunk as I saw our two
balls heading for the hole on converging paths. The balls didnt miss
each other by more than six inches and both stopped about 1 foot from
the hole.
I immediately looked at the other two guys who were standing there
with their thumbs up their butts......"Why didnt somebody say
something!?" They just werent paying close attention.
Well, the balls didnt touch but I immediately asked what the ruling
would be if they had hit each other. Silence.
Well?
In 30 years of golf I have never been involved in a simultaneous putt
situation. Never even thought of it or heard of it.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 18:51:42
From: BAR
Subject: Re: Another rules question...
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lobshot694@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Sunday we had a tournement. On the very first green I was about the
> same distance out as another guy. Actually I thought I was out so I
> prepared to putt. Not known to me, the other guy thought he was out
> and got ready to putt.
> His back was to me so he didnt see me standing over my ball and the
> bill of my hat prevented me from seeing him standing over his ball.
> You guessed it. We both putted at the same time.....there wasnt 1/10th
> of a second between the sounds of the two putts. Oh crap! I realized
> right away there was a problem and my heart sunk as I saw our two
> balls heading for the hole on converging paths. The balls didnt miss
> each other by more than six inches and both stopped about 1 foot from
> the hole.
> I immediately looked at the other two guys who were standing there
> with their thumbs up their butts......"Why didnt somebody say
> something!?" They just werent paying close attention.
> Well, the balls didnt touch but I immediately asked what the ruling
> would be if they had hit each other. Silence.
> Well?
> In 30 years of golf I have never been involved in a simultaneous putt
> situation. Never even thought of it or heard of it.
>
They were both hoping you and the other idiot incurred a penalty of two
strokes each.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 23:18:09
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Another rules question...
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On Tue, 20 2007 18:51:42 -0400, BAR <screwed@you.com > wrote:
>lobshot694@bellsouth.net wrote:
>> Sunday we had a tournement. On the very first green I was about the
>> same distance out as another guy. Actually I thought I was out so I
>> prepared to putt. Not known to me, the other guy thought he was out
>> and got ready to putt.
>> His back was to me so he didnt see me standing over my ball and the
>> bill of my hat prevented me from seeing him standing over his ball.
>> You guessed it. We both putted at the same time.....there wasnt 1/10th
>> of a second between the sounds of the two putts. Oh crap! I realized
>> right away there was a problem and my heart sunk as I saw our two
>> balls heading for the hole on converging paths. The balls didnt miss
>> each other by more than six inches and both stopped about 1 foot from
>> the hole.
>> I immediately looked at the other two guys who were standing there
>> with their thumbs up their butts......"Why didnt somebody say
>> something!?" They just werent paying close attention.
>> Well, the balls didnt touch but I immediately asked what the ruling
>> would be if they had hit each other. Silence.
>> Well?
>> In 30 years of golf I have never been involved in a simultaneous putt
>> situation. Never even thought of it or heard of it.
>>
>
>They were both hoping you and the other idiot incurred a penalty of two
>strokes each.
Or....they were st enough to know the rule.
___,
\o
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 08:51:43
From: david s-a
Subject: Re: Another rules question...
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lobshot694@bellsouth.net wrote:
<snip >
> Well, the balls didnt touch but I immediately asked what the ruling
> would be if they had hit each other. Silence.
> Well?
> In 30 years of golf I have never been involved in a simultaneous putt
> situation. Never even thought of it or heard of it.
>
Under these circumstances, in stroke play, the golf balls are 'outside
agencies' to each other. See exception to Rule 19-5 which refers one to
Rule 19-1b.
Note: from 'Definitions'..."....An 'outside agency' is ANY (caps mine)
agency......in strokeplay...not part of the competitor's side...."
Rule 19-1b.....Both balls must be replaced, and the stroke(s) replayed.
This is an old chestnut, often discussed in 'Rules' circles!
cheers
david
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