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Date: 24 Sep 2006 09:47:19
From: wdyw
Subject: Another Ryder Cup Walkover
I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir. Top three in the world
doesnt cut it when its a 12 man team.

Great to see both sides wild card picks score so many points and play
such excellent golf.

Tiger, somehow gets out of it with a winning record despite being the
worst player on show up to Saturday afternoon. Furyk shoulders sure did
have to be broad. THank goodness Woosie decided to use the out of form
Harrington in all 5 sessions!





 
Date: 25 Sep 2006 06:06:27
From: Simon
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover

Howard9 wrote:

> In article <j%zRg.22540$eW5.9656@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, s@spring.com
> says...
> >
> > "wdyw" <wdyw@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1159116439.103446.296050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > >I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
> > > the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir. Top three in the world
> > > doesnt cut it when its a 12 man team.
> > >
> > > Great to see both sides wild card picks score so many points and play
> > > such excellent golf.
> > >
> > > Tiger, somehow gets out of it with a winning record despite being the
> > > worst player on show up to Saturday afternoon. Furyk shoulders sure did
> > > have to be broad. THank goodness Woosie decided to use the out of form
> > > Harrington in all 5 sessions!
> > >
> >
> > Tiger and Furyk had the most US points up to Friday night...so he Tiger
> > wasnt the worst as you say..
> >
> He may not be the worst - but compared with what is expected of the No.1
> player - he disappointed the most for sure.
> I feel kind of sorry for him because until he performs better he won't
> really get the recognition.
>
I've made this point in another thread, but I'll give it another
airing. Tiger's obviously the best player there by miles & is always
going to pick up a few points even playing his B or C game, but his
downbeat attitude must have a negative effect on team morale. Take the
two least well known players on the US team, Taylor and Wetterich. They
see a positive, fist-pumping Tiger when he is beating them all on tour,
but when he's on their team, he looks like he can't be bothered. That's
not really going to make them feel special.



  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 14:24:51
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover
In article <1159189587.197746.258280@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
hancock_simon@hotmail.com says...
> I've made this point in another thread, but I'll give it another
> airing. Tiger's obviously the best player there by miles & is always
> going to pick up a few points even playing his B or C game, but his
> downbeat attitude must have a negative effect on team morale. Take the
> two least well known players on the US team, Taylor and Wetterich. They
> see a positive, fist-pumping Tiger when he is beating them all on tour,
> but when he's on their team, he looks like he can't be bothered. That's
> not really going to make them feel special.
>

Yes. I watched him here and he was like a zombie as he walked around the
course and stood on the tees. His face was blank, frozen, emotionless.
Weird.

--
Howard


 
Date: 25 Sep 2006 13:02:55
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover

"wdyw" <wdyw@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159116439.103446.296050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
> the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir. Top three in the world
> doesnt cut it when its a 12 man team.
>
> Great to see both sides wild card picks score so many points and play
> such excellent golf.
>
> Tiger, somehow gets out of it with a winning record despite being the
> worst player on show up to Saturday afternoon. Furyk shoulders sure did
> have to be broad. THank goodness Woosie decided to use the out of form
> Harrington in all 5 sessions!
>

Just wait until 2008 when Michelle Wie becomes a captain's pick :-)

dave




 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 23:13:57
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover
In article <1159116439.103446.296050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com >,
wdyw@aol.com says...
> I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
> the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir. Top three in the world
> doesnt cut it when its a 12 man team.
>
> Great to see both sides wild card picks score so many points and play
> such excellent golf.
>
> Tiger, somehow gets out of it with a winning record despite being the
> worst player on show up to Saturday afternoon. Furyk shoulders sure did
> have to be broad. THank goodness Woosie decided to use the out of form
> Harrington in all 5 sessions!
>
All excellent points. He did hide Padraig at the end of the list because
he was playing so shite. But I guess everyone can't be 100% on the
weekend. And he was almost the only European that didn't fire on all
cylinders.

--
Howard


 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 14:27:23
From: wdyw
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover

spring wrote:
> "wdyw" <wdyw@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1159116439.103446.296050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
> > the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir. Top three in the world
> > doesnt cut it when its a 12 man team.
> >
> > Great to see both sides wild card picks score so many points and play
> > such excellent golf.
> >
> > Tiger, somehow gets out of it with a winning record despite being the
> > worst player on show up to Saturday afternoon. Furyk shoulders sure did
> > have to be broad. THank goodness Woosie decided to use the out of form
> > Harrington in all 5 sessions!
> >
>
> Tiger and Furyk had the most US points up to Friday night...so he Tiger
> wasnt the worst as you say..

oh he was. 4 ball better ball and not a single birdie by Woods at all
on Saturday, and none until the 11th on the Friday. Furyk carried him
and on Friday Harrington (who was just as much a liability as
Mickelson) and Monty couldn'r hole a putt. numerosu times in the water,
2 three foot putts missed, Woods was awful!



  
Date: 24 Sep 2006 17:59:51
From: spring
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover

"wdyw" <wdyw@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159133243.497150.59870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> spring wrote:
>> "wdyw" <wdyw@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1159116439.103446.296050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> >I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
>> > the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir. Top three in the world
>> > doesnt cut it when its a 12 man team.
>> >
>> > Great to see both sides wild card picks score so many points and play
>> > such excellent golf.
>> >
>> > Tiger, somehow gets out of it with a winning record despite being the
>> > worst player on show up to Saturday afternoon. Furyk shoulders sure did
>> > have to be broad. THank goodness Woosie decided to use the out of form
>> > Harrington in all 5 sessions!
>> >
>>
>> Tiger and Furyk had the most US points up to Friday night...so he Tiger
>> wasnt the worst as you say..
>
> oh he was. 4 ball better ball and not a single birdie by Woods at all
> on Saturday, and none until the 11th on the Friday. Furyk carried him
> and on Friday Harrington (who was just as much a liability as
> Mickelson) and Monty couldn'r hole a putt. numerosu times in the water,
> 2 three foot putts missed, Woods was awful!

yes he was awful but still came away with the top points...all three days.
the problem is deeper than Woods....I will call it beer :-)
>




   
Date: 25 Sep 2006 14:46:09
From: Chris
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover

"spring" <s@spring.com > wrote in message
news:ddDRg.22582$eW5.5965@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>
> "wdyw" <wdyw@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1159133243.497150.59870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> spring wrote:
>>> "wdyw" <wdyw@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1159116439.103446.296050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>> >I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
>>> > the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir. Top three in the world
>>> > doesnt cut it when its a 12 man team.
>>> >
>>> > Great to see both sides wild card picks score so many points and play
>>> > such excellent golf.
>>> >
>>> > Tiger, somehow gets out of it with a winning record despite being the
>>> > worst player on show up to Saturday afternoon. Furyk shoulders sure
>>> > did
>>> > have to be broad. THank goodness Woosie decided to use the out of form
>>> > Harrington in all 5 sessions!
>>> >
>>>
>>> Tiger and Furyk had the most US points up to Friday night...so he Tiger
>>> wasnt the worst as you say..
>>
>> oh he was. 4 ball better ball and not a single birdie by Woods at all
>> on Saturday, and none until the 11th on the Friday. Furyk carried him
>> and on Friday Harrington (who was just as much a liability as
>> Mickelson) and Monty couldn'r hole a putt. numerosu times in the water,
>> 2 three foot putts missed, Woods was awful!
>
> yes he was awful but still came away with the top points...all three days.
> the problem is deeper than Woods....I will call it beer :-)
>>
>
>
and don't forget about Phil...any of us could have scored as many points as
he did and he's the #2 in the world?




    
Date: 26 Sep 2006 01:33:09
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:46:09 GMT, "Chris" <@verizon.net > wrote:

>and don't forget about Phil...any of us could have scored as many points as
>he did and he's the #2 in the world?

I couldn't, without relying 100% upon a partner.

I wish there was some way for Phil to back out without upsetting his
sponsors - but it's the Captain's responsibility to give him fewer
rounds if he's not playing well.

I will be interested in seeing if Phil is more ready in September
starting next year - with the longer season. He won't like that as
he enjoys the California swing early in the year, and he also wants to
take a significant time off to recharge.


 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 14:20:12
From: spring
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover

"wdyw" <wdyw@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159116439.103446.296050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
> the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir. Top three in the world
> doesnt cut it when its a 12 man team.
>
> Great to see both sides wild card picks score so many points and play
> such excellent golf.
>
> Tiger, somehow gets out of it with a winning record despite being the
> worst player on show up to Saturday afternoon. Furyk shoulders sure did
> have to be broad. THank goodness Woosie decided to use the out of form
> Harrington in all 5 sessions!
>

Tiger and Furyk had the most US points up to Friday night...so he Tiger
wasnt the worst as you say..




  
Date: 24 Sep 2006 23:16:17
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover
In article <j%zRg.22540$eW5.9656@bignews5.bellsouth.net >, s@spring.com
says...
>
> "wdyw" <wdyw@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1159116439.103446.296050@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
> > the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir. Top three in the world
> > doesnt cut it when its a 12 man team.
> >
> > Great to see both sides wild card picks score so many points and play
> > such excellent golf.
> >
> > Tiger, somehow gets out of it with a winning record despite being the
> > worst player on show up to Saturday afternoon. Furyk shoulders sure did
> > have to be broad. THank goodness Woosie decided to use the out of form
> > Harrington in all 5 sessions!
> >
>
> Tiger and Furyk had the most US points up to Friday night...so he Tiger
> wasnt the worst as you say..
>
He may not be the worst - but compared with what is expected of the No.1
player - he disappointed the most for sure.
I feel kind of sorry for him because until he performs better he won't
really get the recognition.


--
Howard


 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 13:10:20
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover
"wdyw" <wdyw@aol.com > wrote ...
>
>I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
> the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir.

Or just rename it "the Bush Cup."

After all, it's America vs. the world.

But seriously, I like it the way it is.

Randy




  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 12:55:28
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:10:20 -0400, "\"R&B\""
<noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote:

>Or just rename it "the Bush Cup."

We already have The Walker Cup.


 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 10:01:48
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Another Ryder Cup Walkover

wdyw wrote:
> I think its time for the USA team to beocme an Americas team to bolster
> the side with the likes of Cabrera and Weir. Top three in the world
> doesnt cut it when its a 12 man team.

Plans are already under way for Bush to attack Australia and New
Zealand.
"Now watch this drive..."