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Date: 03 Oct 2006 23:15:42
From: retiredusarmy
Subject: Advice on push carts
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I goggled RSG about the subject. The last discussion seems to have been in
05. Now that the season is winding down for the year, does anyone have
anything to add about the different carts.
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Date: 05 Oct 2006 17:42:50
From:
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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Peter Strauss wrote:
> On 4 Oct 2006 17:19:49 -0700, bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote:
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> >
> > pete z wrote:
> > > bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > I've got 2 Ajay Roll Kings, about 20 yrs old and work great. Still can
> > > > get them on e-bay for around $15. I can usually get 2 or 3 a week at
> > > > yard sales for about $5 each.
> > >
> > > Push carts? The subject of this thread.
> >
> > I don't understand your reply.
>
> The Ajay is a pullcart, not a pushcart.
> Difference? Two wheels vs. three.
> Someone looking for a pushcart is probably not interested in a
> pullcart. They're ergonomically very different, too -- the pullcart
> can have very adverse impact on one's shoulder. When I had a
> pullcart, that was certainly the case. No damage of any sort to me
> from the pushcart.
I see your point, but, about one third of the folks around the courses
I play are pushing their "pull" carts. Sometimes I even push mine.
Sorry about getting off topic though, hope I didn't upset anyone too
much.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 17:19:49
From:
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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pete z wrote:
> bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I've got 2 Ajay Roll Kings, about 20 yrs old and work great. Still can
> > get them on e-bay for around $15. I can usually get 2 or 3 a week at
> > yard sales for about $5 each.
>
> Push carts? The subject of this thread.
I don't understand your reply.
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Date: 05 Oct 2006 23:11:41
From: Peter Strauss
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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On 4 Oct 2006 17:19:49 -0700, bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote:
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> pete z wrote:
> > bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > I've got 2 Ajay Roll Kings, about 20 yrs old and work great. Still can
> > > get them on e-bay for around $15. I can usually get 2 or 3 a week at
> > > yard sales for about $5 each.
> >
> > Push carts? The subject of this thread.
>
> I don't understand your reply.
The Ajay is a pullcart, not a pushcart.
Difference? Two wheels vs. three.
Someone looking for a pushcart is probably not interested in a
pullcart. They're ergonomically very different, too -- the pullcart
can have very adverse impact on one's shoulder. When I had a
pullcart, that was certainly the case. No damage of any sort to me
from the pushcart.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 15:30:29
From: pete z
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote:
> I've got 2 Ajay Roll Kings, about 20 yrs old and work great. Still can
> get them on e-bay for around $15. I can usually get 2 or 3 a week at
> yard sales for about $5 each.
Push carts? The subject of this thread.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 15:27:45
From: pete z
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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wpdesign@yahoo.com wrote:
> retiredusarmy wrote:
> > I goggled RSG about the subject. The last discussion seems to have been in
> > 05. Now that the season is winding down for the year, does anyone have
> > anything to add about the different carts.
>
> I have used my BagBoy Express (around $100 at Golfsmith last December)
> for nearly a year, and it has worked well. Only complaint is the
> umbrella holder won't work with my umbrella grip. I guess my clubs can
> also get in the way of the drink holder. Otherwise, glad the bride
> didn't spend the extra money on the Sun Mountain.
>
> Steve
I second her choice. I think the Bag Boy Express is a better built
cart, much better customer service, at half the price. I had a problem
with one of the brakes, called them,
and they shipped a part overnight express. Got it the next moning. My
brother had a similar
problem, and it took him 3 weeks to get any help. Customer service for
Sun Mountain generally sucks. Tell her to get you the seat. Takes about
five minutes to install,
and is great when you have to wait to hit a shot, especially if you
have a bad back, like me.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:22:23
From: Jim Garnett
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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In article <1160000864.980797.96900@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"pete z" <pz0326@aol.com > wrote:
>wpdesign@yahoo.com wrote:
>> retiredusarmy wrote:
>> > I goggled RSG about the subject. The last discussion seems to have
>> > been in
>> > 05. Now that the season is winding down for the year, does anyone
>> > have
>> > anything to add about the different carts.
>>
>> I have used my BagBoy Express (around $100 at Golfsmith last December)
>> for nearly a year, and it has worked well. Only complaint is the
>> umbrella holder won't work with my umbrella grip. I guess my clubs can
>> also get in the way of the drink holder. Otherwise, glad the bride
>> didn't spend the extra money on the Sun Mountain.
>>
>> Steve
>
>I second her choice. I think the Bag Boy Express is a better built
>cart, much better customer service, at half the price. I had a problem
>with one of the brakes, called them,
>and they shipped a part overnight express. Got it the next moning. My
>brother had a similar
>problem, and it took him 3 weeks to get any help. Customer service for
>Sun Mountain generally sucks. Tell her to get you the seat. Takes about
>five minutes to install,
>and is great when you have to wait to hit a shot, especially if you
>have a bad back, like me.
I'd like to have a little foot platform - to ride on downhill, or push
like a scooter. =: )
~j.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:53:35
From:
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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I've got 2 Ajay Roll Kings, about 20 yrs old and work great. Still can
get them on e-bay for around $15. I can usually get 2 or 3 a week at
yard sales for about $5 each.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 21:25:01
From: Peter Strauss
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 23:15:42 -0500, "retiredusarmy"
<tenniscoach1998nospam@hotmail.com > wrote:
> I goggled RSG about the subject. The last discussion seems to have been in
> 05. Now that the season is winding down for the year, does anyone have
> anything to add about the different carts.
>
Sun Mtn SpeedCart hands down.
I love mine. It tames even very hilly courses, and the moderately
hilly ones are a piece o' cake with it. Flat ones? You hardly know
you're toting anything at all.
Folds up quickly and easily.
As for the compartment lid: it only pops open, sometimes, when I fold
up the cart, and then it doesn't really matter. While in use, it's
fine on my cart. No problems with it at all.
Peter
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:31:29
From:
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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retiredusarmy wrote:
> I goggled RSG about the subject. The last discussion seems to have been in
> 05. Now that the season is winding down for the year, does anyone have
> anything to add about the different carts.
I have used my BagBoy Express (around $100 at Golfsmith last December)
for nearly a year, and it has worked well. Only complaint is the
umbrella holder won't work with my umbrella grip. I guess my clubs can
also get in the way of the drink holder. Otherwise, glad the bride
didn't spend the extra money on the Sun Mountain.
Steve
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Date: 05 Oct 2006 11:27:08
From: DK
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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I just bought a Bag Boy Express LS (with the umbrella holder) at www.tgw.com
, where they are currently selling for $100 with free shipping. I've been
shopping around and watching prices for a long time and that's the best
price I've seen by far.
I haven't used it yet, but when assembling, noticed that it only has a brake
on wheel, even through their instructions say it should have two. I called
Bagboy, and they said the instructions are out of date, and that they now
only come with one brake and that it should be sufficient even on steep
hills. They said to call them if it doesn't, and implied they'd send me a
second brake if needed.
As long as the brake works OK, I think I got a good deal and can't wait to
try it this weekend.
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Date: 05 Oct 2006 11:30:09
From: DK
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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My message below should have said it came with a brake on only one wheel,
even though the instructions said it should have two.
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DK
"DK" <none@NoSpam.com > wrote in message news:CpaVg.12$MG.8@newsfe02.lga...
>I just bought a Bag Boy Express LS (with the umbrella holder) at
>www.tgw.com , where they are currently selling for $100 with free shipping.
>I've been shopping around and watching prices for a long time and that's
>the best price I've seen by far.
>
> I haven't used it yet, but when assembling, noticed that it only has a
> brake on wheel, even through their instructions say it should have two. I
> called Bagboy, and they said the instructions are out of date, and that
> they now only come with one brake and that it should be sufficient even on
> steep hills. They said to call them if it doesn't, and implied they'd send
> me a second brake if needed.
>
> As long as the brake works OK, I think I got a good deal and can't wait to
> try it this weekend.
>
> --
> DK
>
>
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 11:59:17
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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retiredusarmy wrote:
> I goggled RSG about the subject. The last discussion seems to have been in
> 05. Now that the season is winding down for the year, does anyone have
> anything to add about the different carts.
I have the Sun Mountain speed cart. I love it. There were several
things that distinguished it at the time from the Bag Boy. One is the
hand-brake rather than foot brake. I can just flip that lever with my
thumb when I want to go and there's no footsie involved. I think it's
far more convenient.
A second issue is whether you can position the push handle where you
want it. On some editions of the Bag Boy, it had only one position, as
far as I could tell--and I like it lower than I saw it on those.
Third, it folds up without taking anything off of it.
The newest version has the umbrella holder on the handle, which is quite
cool (mine doesn't have it). Best use of that holder? Using your rain
umbrella to keep the sun off! Pretty clever.
If I bought another, I doubt I'd even look at anything other than the
speed cart.
Mike
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 09:36:54
From: Kenny Stultz
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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In article <LzGUg.17759$GY5.15673@bignews6.bellsouth.net >,
tenniscoach1998nospam@hotmail.com says...
>
>I goggled RSG about the subject. The last discussion seems to have been in
>05. Now that the season is winding down for the year, does anyone have
>anything to add about the different carts.
>
>
>
>
I still use a Sun Mountain and still like it.
Kenny
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"Golf is the only sport where a precise knowledge of the Rules can
earn one a reputation for bad sportsmanship"
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 07:31:59
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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Kenny Stultz wrote:
> In article <LzGUg.17759$GY5.15673@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
> tenniscoach1998nospam@hotmail.com says...
>> I goggled RSG about the subject. The last discussion seems to have been in
>> 05. Now that the season is winding down for the year, does anyone have
>> anything to add about the different carts.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I still use a Sun Mountain and still like it.
I second the Sun Mountain Speed Cart.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:00:47
From: A Brick in the Wall
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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"Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com > wrote in message
news:y4SdnSjqu5IyBr7YnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Kenny Stultz wrote:
>> In article <LzGUg.17759$GY5.15673@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
>> tenniscoach1998nospam@hotmail.com says...
>>> I goggled RSG about the subject. The last discussion seems to have been
>>> in 05. Now that the season is winding down for the year, does anyone
>>> have anything to add about the different carts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I still use a Sun Mountain and still like it.
>
> I second the Sun Mountain Speed Cart.
The only thing I do not like about my Sun Mountain cart is the tray
compartment's lid catch is lousy -- it does not hold it closed very well ---
so I don't use it -- but since I use the cart I have cart bag that holds
more than I need --- if you use a smaller walking bag you may want to use
that compartment.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:44:50
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:00:47 -0400, "A Brick in the Wall"
<NoSpam@NoThanks.com > wrote:
>The only thing I do not like about my Sun Mountain cart is the tray
>compartment's lid catch is lousy -- it does not hold it closed very well ---
>so I don't use it -- but since I use the cart I have cart bag that holds
>more than I need --- if you use a smaller walking bag you may want to use
>that compartment.
Not only doesn't it close, the clamp for cards doesn't work well. I
need to get a clothes pin.
My other grip is a gripe with all carts I have tried - there is no
standard design to clamp a bag so that it doesn't twist.
The other day I noticed my tires were flat. The course's air machine
was broken, so I didn't fill them. It really didn't make much
difference.
One thing to check with any cart - get permission to actually put it
in your car with your bag and see how difficult it is to secure it so
it doesn't move around.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 20:49:07
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:00:47 -0400, "A Brick in the Wall"
> <NoSpam@NoThanks.com> wrote:
>
>> The only thing I do not like about my Sun Mountain cart is the tray
>> compartment's lid catch is lousy -- it does not hold it closed very well ---
>> so I don't use it -- but since I use the cart I have cart bag that holds
>> more than I need --- if you use a smaller walking bag you may want to use
>> that compartment.
>
> Not only doesn't it close, the clamp for cards doesn't work well. I
> need to get a clothes pin.
I have found that I need to put some muscle into closing the tray cover
to get it to hold. You might need to back off the screws and move the
tray a bit and turn the screws again.
> My other grip is a gripe with all carts I have tried - there is no
> standard design to clamp a bag so that it doesn't twist.
I am going to try and solve that with the Sun Mountain SCB Deluxe bag I
just bought for a great price.
> The other day I noticed my tires were flat. The course's air machine
> was broken, so I didn't fill them. It really didn't make much
> difference.
I went to my local bicycle shop and bought one of the CO2 tire refill
kits. And, I had the tire protectors put into the each of the three
tires. The last thing I want to do is to drag my cart and carry my bag
or drag the cart and bag. Flat tires would usually happen at the
furtherest distance from the parking lot.
> One thing to check with any cart - get permission to actually put it
> in your car with your bag and see how difficult it is to secure it so
> it doesn't move around.
I have a big truck with lots of room with a hard tonneau cover on the
bed. I can fit several bags and carts without effort.
Bert
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:55:53
From: Jim Garnett
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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Have a speed cart also, and fell in love with the very first push.
Absolutely effortless!
In article <d0p7i2dg7dm88obgu7nc3a5kghvble81oj@4ax.com >, Howard Brazee
<howard@brazee.net > wrote:
>On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:00:47 -0400, "A Brick in the Wall"
><NoSpam@NoThanks.com> wrote:
>
>>The only thing I do not like about my Sun Mountain cart is the tray
>>compartment's lid catch is lousy -- it does not hold it closed very well
>>---
>>so I don't use it -- but since I use the cart I have cart bag that holds
>>more than I need --- if you use a smaller walking bag you may want to use
>>that compartment.
Me too. My compartment closes but not tight. The lid rattles a bit on
bumpy surfaces. Needs a catch. Never used it. My bag's pockets work best.
>Not only doesn't it close, the clamp for cards doesn't work well. I
>need to get a clothes pin.
>
>My other grip is a gripe with all carts I have tried - there is no
>standard design to clamp a bag so that it doesn't twist.
I think I picked up this tip here on RSG: cut two 2-3" wide x 12" long
strips of foam padding and nestle it in between the cart and your bag,
top and bottom. Soft & cushy, and enough gentle friction to hold
everything in place.
>The other day I noticed my tires were flat. The course's air machine
>was broken, so I didn't fill them. It really didn't make much
>difference.
Took me a few hours to figure out the supplied pump & hose doodad. My
cycle pump's head is too big to fit between those tiny spokes, but my
12V air inflator just squeezes in for easy refills. Being a road
cyclist, I am used to 110psi tires for best rolling resistance. I pumped
the speed cart to 40psi and found it too hard. Very harsh on the hands,
as all motion & vibration is felt through the handle. Can't remember
what it's at now, but I make sure I can depress my thumb easily into the
tire.
>One thing to check with any cart - get permission to actually put it
>in your car with your bag and see how difficult it is to secure it so
>it doesn't move around
I sometimes feel like I have a caddy since the cart can be propelled
with a single finger push, and much of the time you can just let it go.
But, be wary of stass playing partners who might nonchalantly walk
past and release the brake lever, then mention: "Hey! Your cart's
rolling away!"
$250 Canadian, about $100 more than some Bag Boys I saw. But one looks
like a Hummer, and one looks like a Hyundai.
~j.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 22:46:56
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Advice on push carts
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 14:55:53 -0700, Jim Garnett
<jjgarnett@benwell.com > wrote:
>>The other day I noticed my tires were flat. The course's air machine
>>was broken, so I didn't fill them. It really didn't make much
>>difference.
>
>Took me a few hours to figure out the supplied pump & hose doodad.
That's newer than mine - as is the newer bungie cords.
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