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Date: 17 Jan 2007 01:17:36
From: aj
Subject: Advice on laser rangefinder?
Hi all,

I've been looking at laser rangefinders, and am interested in the
Bushnell PinSeeker 1500 without the slope function and the Nikon
LaserCaddy 500g. The Nikon is less expensive, and more compact, but
apparently is limited to 160 yards to the pin while the Bushnell claims
to read pins at 400 yards.

Has anyone tried them both, or had good or bad experiences with either
one that they'd like to relate?

Thanks for any information.

-aj




 
Date: 25 Jan 2007 11:43:54
From: JJVP
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?

That's what I have. Works great. Had it for about 2 years.

JJVP


On Jan 24, 4:01 pm, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net >
wrote:
> Looks out of stock at TGw.
>
> Here is one on Ebay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Bushnell-Yardage-Pro-Tour-XL-laser-Rangefinder_W0...
> 320074817486QQihZ011QQcategoryZ31712QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Bushnell yardage Pro Tour XL
>
> Otto
>
> "JJVP" <jjv...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1169587309.027140.146190@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I get the following from the TGW site using your link:
>
> > "This product is not available at this time"
>
> > What is the brand/model?
>
> > JJVP
>
> > Otto wrote:
> > > This is the one you want:
>
> > >http://www.tgw.com/customer/category/product.jsp?SUBCATEGORY_ID=781
>
> > > You can buy it new for 250 or pick one up on ebay for 180.
>
> > > If your course is mapped by skygolf, I would recommend the skycaddy.
> > > Personal mapping is an option but is not as powerful. If you have to
> rely on
> > > personal mapping, go with the rangefinder above.
>
> > > The rangefinder above has the Bushnell pinseeker technology and will
> grab a
> > > pin up to 350 yards. I have personally grabbed a pin at 325 yards but
> was
> > > unable to grab one at 385 yards so I am guessing that the 350 yard spec
> is
> > > legitimate.
>
> > > I have no problem grabbing pins, even in low light conditions.
>
> > > It is a wonderful rangefinder and has the pinseeker technology that
> costs
> > > twice as much in the 1500 series Bushnells.
>
> > > It will grab a pin as far out as you can hit a ball.
>
> > > It is a wonderful addition to any arsenal and will allow you to add data
> > > points to your game.
>
> > > Highly recommend.
>
> > > When you strike the ball, you have two variables to account for:
> distance
> > > and line.
>
> > > This rangefinder will eliminate the distance variable.
>
> > > Otto
>
> > > "aj" <a...@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com> wrote in message
> > >news:160120071717330109%aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com...
> > > > Hi all,
>
> > > > I've been looking at laser rangefinders, and am interested in the
> > > > Bushnell PinSeeker 1500 without the slope function and the Nikon
> > > > LaserCaddy 500g. The Nikon is less expensive, and more compact, but
> > > > apparently is limited to 160 yards to the pin while the Bushnell
> claims
> > > > to read pins at 400 yards.
>
> > > > Has anyone tried them both, or had good or bad experiences with either
> > > > one that they'd like to relate?
>
> > > > Thanks for any information.
>
> > > > -aj



 
Date: 23 Jan 2007 13:21:49
From: JJVP
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
I get the following from the TGW site using your link:

"This product is not available at this time"

What is the brand/model?

JJVP


Otto wrote:
> This is the one you want:
>
> http://www.tgw.com/customer/category/product.jsp?SUBCATEGORY_ID=781
>
> You can buy it new for 250 or pick one up on ebay for 180.
>
> If your course is mapped by skygolf, I would recommend the skycaddy.
> Personal mapping is an option but is not as powerful. If you have to rely on
> personal mapping, go with the rangefinder above.
>
> The rangefinder above has the Bushnell pinseeker technology and will grab a
> pin up to 350 yards. I have personally grabbed a pin at 325 yards but was
> unable to grab one at 385 yards so I am guessing that the 350 yard spec is
> legitimate.
>
> I have no problem grabbing pins, even in low light conditions.
>
> It is a wonderful rangefinder and has the pinseeker technology that costs
> twice as much in the 1500 series Bushnells.
>
> It will grab a pin as far out as you can hit a ball.
>
> It is a wonderful addition to any arsenal and will allow you to add data
> points to your game.
>
> Highly recommend.
>
> When you strike the ball, you have two variables to account for: distance
> and line.
>
> This rangefinder will eliminate the distance variable.
>
> Otto
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "aj" <aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com> wrote in message
> news:160120071717330109%aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been looking at laser rangefinders, and am interested in the
> > Bushnell PinSeeker 1500 without the slope function and the Nikon
> > LaserCaddy 500g. The Nikon is less expensive, and more compact, but
> > apparently is limited to 160 yards to the pin while the Bushnell claims
> > to read pins at 400 yards.
> >
> > Has anyone tried them both, or had good or bad experiences with either
> > one that they'd like to relate?
> >
> > Thanks for any information.
> >
> > -aj



  
Date: 24 Jan 2007 17:01:08
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
Looks out of stock at TGw.

Here is one on Ebay:


http://cgi.ebay.com/Bushnell-Yardage-Pro-Tour-XL-laser-Rangefinder_W0QQitemZ
320074817486QQihZ011QQcategoryZ31712QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bushnell yardage Pro Tour XL

Otto




"JJVP" <jjvp10@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1169587309.027140.146190@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> I get the following from the TGW site using your link:
>
> "This product is not available at this time"
>
> What is the brand/model?
>
> JJVP
>
>
> Otto wrote:
> > This is the one you want:
> >
> > http://www.tgw.com/customer/category/product.jsp?SUBCATEGORY_ID=781
> >
> > You can buy it new for 250 or pick one up on ebay for 180.
> >
> > If your course is mapped by skygolf, I would recommend the skycaddy.
> > Personal mapping is an option but is not as powerful. If you have to
rely on
> > personal mapping, go with the rangefinder above.
> >
> > The rangefinder above has the Bushnell pinseeker technology and will
grab a
> > pin up to 350 yards. I have personally grabbed a pin at 325 yards but
was
> > unable to grab one at 385 yards so I am guessing that the 350 yard spec
is
> > legitimate.
> >
> > I have no problem grabbing pins, even in low light conditions.
> >
> > It is a wonderful rangefinder and has the pinseeker technology that
costs
> > twice as much in the 1500 series Bushnells.
> >
> > It will grab a pin as far out as you can hit a ball.
> >
> > It is a wonderful addition to any arsenal and will allow you to add data
> > points to your game.
> >
> > Highly recommend.
> >
> > When you strike the ball, you have two variables to account for:
distance
> > and line.
> >
> > This rangefinder will eliminate the distance variable.
> >
> > Otto
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "aj" <aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com> wrote in message
> > news:160120071717330109%aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've been looking at laser rangefinders, and am interested in the
> > > Bushnell PinSeeker 1500 without the slope function and the Nikon
> > > LaserCaddy 500g. The Nikon is less expensive, and more compact, but
> > > apparently is limited to 160 yards to the pin while the Bushnell
claims
> > > to read pins at 400 yards.
> > >
> > > Has anyone tried them both, or had good or bad experiences with either
> > > one that they'd like to relate?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any information.
> > >
> > > -aj
>




   
Date: 25 Jan 2007 12:33:20
From: Fuse
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
Get the Scout. Watch for rebates and search for price on places like
Shopping.com. Got mine last May for $165 shipped - brand new.

"Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote in message
news:rGQth.14687$uW.156@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Looks out of stock at TGw.
>
> Here is one on Ebay:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Bushnell-Yardage-Pro-Tour-XL-laser-Rangefinder_W0QQitemZ
> 320074817486QQihZ011QQcategoryZ31712QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Bushnell yardage Pro Tour XL
>
> Otto
>
>
>
>
> "JJVP" <jjvp10@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1169587309.027140.146190@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> I get the following from the TGW site using your link:
>>
>> "This product is not available at this time"
>>
>> What is the brand/model?
>>
>> JJVP
>>
>>
>> Otto wrote:
>> > This is the one you want:
>> >
>> > http://www.tgw.com/customer/category/product.jsp?SUBCATEGORY_ID=781
>> >
>> > You can buy it new for 250 or pick one up on ebay for 180.
>> >
>> > If your course is mapped by skygolf, I would recommend the skycaddy.
>> > Personal mapping is an option but is not as powerful. If you have to
> rely on
>> > personal mapping, go with the rangefinder above.
>> >
>> > The rangefinder above has the Bushnell pinseeker technology and will
> grab a
>> > pin up to 350 yards. I have personally grabbed a pin at 325 yards but
> was
>> > unable to grab one at 385 yards so I am guessing that the 350 yard spec
> is
>> > legitimate.
>> >
>> > I have no problem grabbing pins, even in low light conditions.
>> >
>> > It is a wonderful rangefinder and has the pinseeker technology that
> costs
>> > twice as much in the 1500 series Bushnells.
>> >
>> > It will grab a pin as far out as you can hit a ball.
>> >
>> > It is a wonderful addition to any arsenal and will allow you to add
>> > data
>> > points to your game.
>> >
>> > Highly recommend.
>> >
>> > When you strike the ball, you have two variables to account for:
> distance
>> > and line.
>> >
>> > This rangefinder will eliminate the distance variable.
>> >
>> > Otto
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "aj" <aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com> wrote in message
>> > news:160120071717330109%aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com...
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > I've been looking at laser rangefinders, and am interested in the
>> > > Bushnell PinSeeker 1500 without the slope function and the Nikon
>> > > LaserCaddy 500g. The Nikon is less expensive, and more compact, but
>> > > apparently is limited to 160 yards to the pin while the Bushnell
> claims
>> > > to read pins at 400 yards.
>> > >
>> > > Has anyone tried them both, or had good or bad experiences with
>> > > either
>> > > one that they'd like to relate?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for any information.
>> > >
>> > > -aj
>>
>
>




 
Date: 23 Jan 2007 19:46:59
From: Hunt
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
In article <160120071717330109%aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com >,
aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com says...
>
>Hi all,
>
>I've been looking at laser rangefinders, and am interested in the
>Bushnell PinSeeker 1500 without the slope function and the Nikon
>LaserCaddy 500g. The Nikon is less expensive, and more compact, but
>apparently is limited to 160 yards to the pin while the Bushnell claims
>to read pins at 400 yards.
>
>Has anyone tried them both, or had good or bad experiences with either
>one that they'd like to relate?
>
>Thanks for any information.
>
>-aj

Tried the Bushnell PS w/ slope and it's worked very well so far. I read it
against a newer GPS at Aviara, CA, and it was spot on for the unit in my
buggie. However, the other cart's GPS seemed to be off by ~10 yds. Based on
the straight distances from tee to green center, I'd say that my GPS was
closer, and the Bushnell read almost exactly the same (depending on pin
position). Still too early to tell, but it's been great for letting me know
how far to clear the "gunch," etc., so I love it. I do wish that it was a tad
smaller, but one cannot have everything. The "slope" function seems to be
good, as well, when tested on home course with 100's of ft. of elevation diff.
Now, if it would only tell me if I was going to slice, fade, draw, hook, or
hit the "dreaded" straight ball! Oh, and take the wind, into account...

Hunt



  
Date: 23 Jan 2007 13:23:20
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
On 23 Jan 2007 19:46:59 GMT, noone@hunt.com (Hunt) wrote:

>The "slope" function seems to be
>good, as well, when tested on home course with 100's of ft. of elevation diff.

Does the slope function give enough advantage to be worth the money
when you can't use it in tournaments?


   
Date: 26 Jan 2007 03:16:03
From: Hunt
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
In article <rjrcr2troend2u8erm0rd3hdrelc8ji185@4ax.com >, howard@brazee.net
says...
>
>On 23 Jan 2007 19:46:59 GMT, noone@hunt.com (Hunt) wrote:
>
>>The "slope" function seems to be
>>good, as well, when tested on home course with 100's of ft. of elevation
diff.
>
>Does the slope function give enough advantage to be worth the money
>when you can't use it in tournaments?

I cannot comment, as this was a gift from my loving wife - ,maybe she's
encouraging me to play more golf?

I do not even know the price diff., and yes, you are correct, in that it is
not approved. OTOH, since I got it, I have found that my rough guesses for the
pin were pretty danged close. Now, over the gunch, that is where I was amazed
at how far off I was in my feelings. Live n' learn.

Hunt



    
Date: 26 Jan 2007 08:19:49
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
On 26 Jan 2007 03:16:03 GMT, noone@hunt.com (Hunt) wrote:

>I do not even know the price diff., and yes, you are correct, in that it is
>not approved. OTOH, since I got it, I have found that my rough guesses for the
>pin were pretty danged close. Now, over the gunch, that is where I was amazed
>at how far off I was in my feelings. Live n' learn.

This seems to me to be the biggest advantage of range finders. People
should use them to increase their estimating skills (estimate first,
then verify with the finder). When playing with your buddies,
side-bets could even be enjoyable using the range-finder.

And they are useful for hackers who are trying to determine how far we
actually do hit a ball - if we keep notes at how often we hit it as
far as we think we should and how often we miss.


 
Date: 18 Jan 2007 01:13:32
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
This is the one you want:

http://www.tgw.com/customer/category/product.jsp?SUBCATEGORY_ID=781

You can buy it new for 250 or pick one up on ebay for 180.

If your course is mapped by skygolf, I would recommend the skycaddy.
Personal mapping is an option but is not as powerful. If you have to rely on
personal mapping, go with the rangefinder above.

The rangefinder above has the Bushnell pinseeker technology and will grab a
pin up to 350 yards. I have personally grabbed a pin at 325 yards but was
unable to grab one at 385 yards so I am guessing that the 350 yard spec is
legitimate.

I have no problem grabbing pins, even in low light conditions.

It is a wonderful rangefinder and has the pinseeker technology that costs
twice as much in the 1500 series Bushnells.

It will grab a pin as far out as you can hit a ball.

It is a wonderful addition to any arsenal and will allow you to add data
points to your game.

Highly recommend.

When you strike the ball, you have two variables to account for: distance
and line.

This rangefinder will eliminate the distance variable.

Otto








"aj" <aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com > wrote in message
news:160120071717330109%aj@thisisaninvalidemailaddress.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I've been looking at laser rangefinders, and am interested in the
> Bushnell PinSeeker 1500 without the slope function and the Nikon
> LaserCaddy 500g. The Nikon is less expensive, and more compact, but
> apparently is limited to 160 yards to the pin while the Bushnell claims
> to read pins at 400 yards.
>
> Has anyone tried them both, or had good or bad experiences with either
> one that they'd like to relate?
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
> -aj




 
Date: 17 Jan 2007 20:28:01
From: David Geesaman
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
aj wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been looking at laser rangefinders, and am interested in the
> Bushnell PinSeeker 1500 without the slope function and the Nikon
> LaserCaddy 500g. The Nikon is less expensive, and more compact, but
> apparently is limited to 160 yards to the pin while the Bushnell claims
> to read pins at 400 yards.

pins at 400y?

Trying to get a spot on any pin over 200y is damned near impossible,
even if you practice offhand rifle ksmanship for hours a day.

While reading off a person or cart isn't too bad at 200y, don't get your
hopes up about reading off the pin. I found myself using the big face
of a bunker, tree, or person instead.

Although a lot of courses are putting those reflectors on the pins just
for this reason. That should help a lot. That might be how bushnell is
half-lying their way through that.

Dave


 
Date: 17 Jan 2007 07:35:32
From: EdSmithers
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?

aj wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been looking at laser rangefinders, and am interested in the
> Bushnell PinSeeker 1500 without the slope function and the Nikon
> LaserCaddy 500g. The Nikon is less expensive, and more compact, but
> apparently is limited to 160 yards to the pin while the Bushnell claims
> to read pins at 400 yards.
>
> Has anyone tried them both, or had good or bad experiences with either
> one that they'd like to relate?
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
> -aj



 
Date: 16 Jan 2007 18:47:21
From: gpsman
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
aj wrote: <brevity snip >
> Hi all,
>
> I've been looking at laser rangefinders,

Seems a lot of guys are. I think of estimating distances by eye and
pacing them off as part of the game, and it keeps my head in the game.
The average guy, I think, is not precise enough in his distance control
to make them actually useful.

But, that's just me. They seem popular.
-----

- gpsman



  
Date: 17 Jan 2007 09:24:19
From: Eric Gurney
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?
"gpsman" <gpsman@driversmail.com > wrote in message
news:1169002041.188461.202090@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> aj wrote: <brevity snip>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been looking at laser rangefinders,
>
> Seems a lot of guys are. I think of estimating distances by eye and
> pacing them off as part of the game, and it keeps my head in the game.
> The average guy, I think, is not precise enough in his distance control
> to make them actually useful.
>
> But, that's just me. They seem popular.
> -----
>
> - gpsman
>

Last summer I played with a guy that had one. It seemed that it was most
useful in determining how far ahead the group in front was to determine
whether or not we should tee off.




  
Date: 17 Jan 2007 02:50:33
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Advice on laser rangefinder?

"gpsman" <gpsman@driversmail.com > wrote in message
news:1169002041.188461.202090@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> aj wrote: <brevity snip>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been looking at laser rangefinders,
>
> Seems a lot of guys are. I think of estimating distances by eye and
> pacing them off as part of the game, and it keeps my head in the game.
> The average guy, I think, is not precise enough in his distance control
> to make them actually useful.
>
> But, that's just me. They seem popular.
> -----
>
> - gpsman
>

From my perspective it depends on how you practice. For the most part I
practice to a specific distance and when I don't have this information on
the course then that is something of a problem.

Many years ago when my practice (for the most part) didn't include a
knowledge of distance, this was less important.

dave