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Date: 02 Sep 2006 19:44:04
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Subject: Adams Golf Irons
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Any one have an opinion on Adams irons???
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 07:15:12
From: sjh
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Otto wrote:
> Screw the irons.
>
> Just fill up your bag with a bunch of hybrids and play some easy golf.
>
Hanes is running a special on fall hoisery. Remember to think pink-
it's the new black this season.
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 10:18:37
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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And if you buy a whole sackful of hybrids, they throw in a free, pink tutu.
Otto
"sjh" <strat68@eudoramail.com > wrote in message
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> Otto wrote:
>> Screw the irons.
>>
>> Just fill up your bag with a bunch of hybrids and play some easy golf.
>>
>
> Hanes is running a special on fall hoisery. Remember to think pink-
> it's the new black this season.
>
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 07:13:11
From: sjh
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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Carbon wrote:
> I've basically decided to getting a set of KZG's built at some point. I'm
> leaning towards the Forged Cavity Backs, because they're identical to the
> MacGregor JNP's I've been playing since the late 80's. The JNP's have no
> offset, a thin top line, and the cavity is shallow enough that you can't
> see it at address. So they look like blades at address, which is what I
> started with and what looks most natural to me.
>
> But the Evolutions look very nice as well, and I have no doubt they're
> easier to hit. I'm sure I'd eventually get used to the offset and larger
> head size.
I've had the original forged cb's for about 3 years, very well made
heads... I don't have the specs, but by eyeball they seem to have less
offset than the original kzg blades. Not much but surprising, you'd
think it would be the other way? One thing noticable with the first
cavity back is the heel-toe length of the middle and longer irons. I
loved the shape of the 8-PW at address but the rest of the set were
wierd in that regard. Never saw a full set of the II or II-M cavities.
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 09:14:18
From: Tom K
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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I bought 2 of their fairway woods a few years ago. Thumbs DOWN. They felt
really good at the store, hitting into a net, but once out on the course,
not good. Turned me off on Adams.
And it wasn't the shafts. I ended up taking the shafts (EI70's) out of them
and using them in my KZG fairway woods.
If price is the issue, go for a demo set or used set of Titleists, Pings,
Callaways, Mizunos, KZGs, etc.
--Tom
<wmmcgrath3@verizon.net > wrote in message
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> Any one have an opinion on Adams irons???
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 09:24:47
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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"Tom K" <tkanitra@optonline.net > wrote in message
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>I bought 2 of their fairway woods a few years ago. Thumbs DOWN. They felt
>really good at the store, hitting into a net, but once out on the course,
>not good. Turned me off on Adams.
>
> And it wasn't the shafts. I ended up taking the shafts (EI70's) out of
> them and using them in my KZG fairway woods.
>
> If price is the issue, go for a demo set or used set of Titleists, Pings,
> Callaways, Mizunos, KZGs, etc.
>
> --Tom
>
Although none of the pros who play Adams (Tom Watson and others) use the
GT3's, it is not like Adams are generally crappy clubs as you suggest.
Second, we are not talking about fairway woods, we are talking about irons.
Please let me know where you can get a set of 10 irons that are demo or used
Titleists, Pings, Callaways, Mizunos, KZGs, etc for near $180? They would
have to be in extremely poor condition.
Even then, I don't think you know the handicap of the OP before you make a
valid recommendation.
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Date: 03 Sep 2006 18:56:59
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Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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k A wrote:
> <wmmcgrath3@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:1157252443.277857.255120@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > I was looking for a general response but i am looking at the Gt3's not
> > too concerned about the shaft
> >
>
> There are a lot of pros on the Senior Tour that play Adams (including Tom
> Watson). In general they are very good clubs.
>
> I hit the GT2 irons in a store a few years ago and thought they were pretty
> good, especially for the money. I see that the GT3 sells for about $180 in
> steel ($270 in graphite) at The Golf Warehouse, so I would say it is an
> excellent bargain, and that includes 10 irons (3-9, PW, SW, LW).
>
> If you are shopping for clubs anywhere in that price range, I don't think
> you can do better. Keep in mind that there is only one shaft stiffness, so I
> assume it probably a regular (or slightly less stiff than regular). If you
> need a stiff shaft, then look for different clubs (but if need a stiff
> shaft, you probably don't want these clubs anyway since they are designed
> for the high-handicap golfer). On these clubs, I would recommend the steel
> shaft for any male under 60, because steel generally plays a lot better than
> the cheaper graphite shafts that come with clubs in this price range.
>
> http://www.tgw.com/customer/category/product.jsp?SUBCATEGORY_ID=7024
Thank you for youe input
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 02:02:02
From: 3putt
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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The pros are playing the Adams A2's not the GT's. Big difference. And
difference in cost as well.
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 07:57:48
From: Henry
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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3putt wrote:
> The pros are playing the Adams A2's not the GT's. Big difference. And
> difference in cost as well.
>
>
So how well could Tiger play with a set of Walts and his Scotty
Cameron putter? Could he still win? Still keep his card? I have a
feeling he could adapt ...
Henry
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 14:58:41
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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"Henry" <HenryNot@home.com > wrote in message
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> So how well could Tiger play with a set of Walts and his Scotty Cameron
> putter? Could he still win? Still keep his card? I have a feeling he
> could adapt ...
>
> Henry
I would not classify the Adams clubs as a "Wal-t set" but if Tiger played
with a Wal-t set then he would have problems with very flexible shafts.
If he could reshaft, then he would do 'OK'.
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Date: 03 Sep 2006 18:09:39
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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wmmcgrath3@verizon.net wrote:
> Any one have an opinion on Adams irons???
>
well, based on my round today Adams irons make one forgetful. I picked
up an Adams head cover on the 2nd tee, a SW on the 4th green, and a PW
and 7 iron on the 12th green. While on the fairway waiting to hit our
second shots on 14 here comes a cart back from in front of us wanting to
know if we found any clubs. He still didn't know that he'd forgotten the
head cover. How do you play 14 holes with only half your clubs and not
know it??
Dave
ps: you want Mizuno irons, or better yet KZG. I'm hitting the KZG Forged
Evolutions and really like them.
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 03:01:03
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:09:39 -0700, long&left wrote:
> ps: you want Mizuno irons, or better yet KZG. I'm hitting the KZG Forged
> Evolutions and really like them.
I've basically decided to getting a set of KZG's built at some point. I'm
leaning towards the Forged Cavity Backs, because they're identical to the
MacGregor JNP's I've been playing since the late 80's. The JNP's have no
offset, a thin top line, and the cavity is shallow enough that you can't
see it at address. So they look like blades at address, which is what I
started with and what looks most natural to me.
But the Evolutions look very nice as well, and I have no doubt they're
easier to hit. I'm sure I'd eventually get used to the offset and larger
head size.
Maybe I should flip a coin or something.
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Date: 03 Sep 2006 20:02:54
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
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> ps: you want Mizuno irons, or better yet KZG. I'm hitting the KZG Forged
> Evolutions and really like them.
Does it matter whether the golfer is a 5 handicapper or a 25 handicapper?
Do they cost $180 in steel for 10 clubs (3-9, PW, SW and LW)?
What a friggin idiot.
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Date: 03 Sep 2006 21:09:47
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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k A wrote:
> "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> news:n1LKg.2140$uv4.9@newsfe02.lga...
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>>ps: you want Mizuno irons, or better yet KZG. I'm hitting the KZG Forged
>>Evolutions and really like them.
>
>
> Does it matter whether the golfer is a 5 handicapper or a 25 handicapper?
>
> Do they cost $180 in steel for 10 clubs (3-9, PW, SW and LW)?
>
> What a friggin idiot.
>
>
not to much more than that IIRC. But then I don't care to much what
clubs cost as they are a miniscule fraction of my yearly golf costs. If
you're serious about playing good golf why would you worry about a
dollar or two one way or the other. Get fitted, and get the right set of
clubs built for you. Cost doesn't matter, score does, whether you're a 5
handicapper or a 25 handicapper. If that's being a "friggin idiot" then
so be it.
Dave
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Date: 05 Sep 2006 18:16:06
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:09:47 -0700, long&left wrote:
> not to much more than that IIRC. But then I don't care to much what
> clubs cost as they are a miniscule fraction of my yearly golf costs. If
> you're serious about playing good golf why would you worry about a
> dollar or two one way or the other. Get fitted, and get the right set of
> clubs built for you. Cost doesn't matter, score does, whether you're a 5
> handicapper or a 25 handicapper. If that's being a "friggin idiot" then
> so be it.
My thoughts exactly. Fitting matters, especially if your build is not
average. There's no point making the game even harder than it is already.
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 12:49:25
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:09:47 -0700, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com >
wrote:
>Cost doesn't matter, score does, whether you're a 5
>handicapper or a 25 handicapper.
Cost does matter for most people. I can allocate my golf money (and
time) between playing, lessons, equipment, and practice. If I spend
more one place, I have to spend less elsewhere.
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Date: 03 Sep 2006 23:25:50
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
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> not to much more than that IIRC. But then I don't care to much what clubs
> cost as they are a miniscule fraction of my yearly golf costs. If you're
> serious about playing good golf why would you worry about a dollar or two
> one way or the other. Get fitted, and get the right set of clubs built for
> you. Cost doesn't matter, score does, whether you're a 5 handicapper or a
> 25 handicapper. If that's being a "friggin idiot" then so be it.
> Dave
Who says the OP is serious about golf? Remember that he first brought up the
Adams GT3, so I assume that the price is one the things that attracted him
to the clubs.
When someone asks me for advice, I don't give him (or her) advice on what I
would do, because my interest in golf, my budget, and my handicap may be
significantly different than the person asking for advice.
A set of KZG's start at about $600 for the iron set. Then add $100 for 2
more wedges, $50 for a putter, $400 for a driver and 3-5 wood, $100 for a
bag (total $1250) . Not every person wants to spend that kind of money.
Obviously you and I do, but maybe not the OP.
$180 is a fantastic deal for 10 irons, and way better quality than you get
with those "complete sets" sold at sporting good stores (obviously you still
need to get a putter and woods if you get the Adams GT3's)..
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 07:41:44
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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k A wrote:
> "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> news:eGNKg.241$ZH.92@newsfe05.lga...
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>>not to much more than that IIRC. But then I don't care to much what clubs
>>cost as they are a miniscule fraction of my yearly golf costs. If you're
>>serious about playing good golf why would you worry about a dollar or two
>>one way or the other. Get fitted, and get the right set of clubs built for
>>you. Cost doesn't matter, score does, whether you're a 5 handicapper or a
>>25 handicapper. If that's being a "friggin idiot" then so be it.
>>Dave
>
>
> Who says the OP is serious about golf? Remember that he first brought up the
> Adams GT3, so I assume that the price is one the things that attracted him
> to the clubs.
>
> When someone asks me for advice, I don't give him (or her) advice on what I
> would do, because my interest in golf, my budget, and my handicap may be
> significantly different than the person asking for advice.
>
> A set of KZG's start at about $600 for the iron set. Then add $100 for 2
> more wedges, $50 for a putter, $400 for a driver and 3-5 wood, $100 for a
> bag (total $1250) . Not every person wants to spend that kind of money.
> Obviously you and I do, but maybe not the OP.
>
> $180 is a fantastic deal for 10 irons, and way better quality than you get
> with those "complete sets" sold at sporting good stores (obviously you still
> need to get a putter and woods if you get the Adams GT3's)..
>
>
I don't like Adams irons. I do like Mizuno and KZG irons. I gave the OP
my opinion, which he can take or leave. WTF does it have to do with you?
When someone asks you for advice you don't give them your OPINION? Now
you're being the friggin idiot...
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 09:15:57
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
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> I don't like Adams irons. I do like Mizuno and KZG irons. I gave the OP my
> opinion, which he can take or leave. WTF does it have to do with you? When
> someone asks you for advice you don't give them your OPINION? Now you're
> being the friggin idiot...
When someone asks for my opinion, I ask them how much money are they willing
to spend, and what is their handicap. If someone wants to give 2 answers
(one without reference to cost/handicap and one with reference to
cost/handicap) then that is fine, but I don't see how anyone can recommend
clubs without reference at least a reference to handicap.
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 08:56:22
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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k A wrote:
> "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> news:HWWKg.211$2J4.55@newsfe05.lga...
>
>>I don't like Adams irons. I do like Mizuno and KZG irons. I gave the OP my
>>opinion, which he can take or leave. WTF does it have to do with you? When
>>someone asks you for advice you don't give them your OPINION? Now you're
>>being the friggin idiot...
>
>
> When someone asks for my opinion, I ask them how much money are they willing
> to spend, and what is their handicap. If someone wants to give 2 answers
> (one without reference to cost/handicap and one with reference to
> cost/handicap) then that is fine, but I don't see how anyone can recommend
> clubs without reference at least a reference to handicap.
>
>
here's your original reply to the OP. Show me where you have asked how
much they want to spend and what their handicap is? You simply offered
your opinion, the same as I did. I think that you've made a lot of
assumptions about the OP, who btw, asked for general advise, which we
both gave them. So wtf is your problem?
"There are a lot of pros on the Senior Tour that play Adams (including
Tom Watson). In general they are very good clubs.
I hit the GT2 irons in a store a few years ago and thought they were
pretty good, especially for the money. I see that the GT3 sells for
about $180 in steel ($270 in graphite) at The Golf Warehouse, so I would
say it is an excellent bargain, and that includes 10 irons (3-9, PW, SW,
LW).
If you are shopping for clubs anywhere in that price range, I don't
think you can do better. Keep in mind that there is only one shaft
stiffness, so I assume it probably a regular (or slightly less stiff
than regular). If you need a stiff shaft, then look for different clubs
(but if need a stiff shaft, you probably don't want these clubs anyway
since they are designed for the high-handicap golfer). On these clubs, I
would recommend the steel shaft for any male under 60, because steel
generally plays a lot better than the cheaper graphite shafts that come
with clubs in this price range."
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 10:29:42
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
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> here's your original reply to the OP. Show me where you have asked how
> much they want to spend and what their handicap is? You simply offered
> your opinion, the same as I did. I think that you've made a lot of
> assumptions about the OP, who btw, asked for general advise, which we both
> gave them. So wtf is your problem?
>
As I stated previously, the mere fact that the OP was interested in clubs
that cost $180 (on-sale from $400) made me believe that he was very
interested in them because of low cost (without having to ask).
Also, the extreme cavity back nature of the clubs (compared to many of the
other clubs recommended) made me strongly believe that he was a high
handicapper.
In any case, the OP poster asked for opinions about the Adams GT3 clubs, and
not about other clubs that cost 4 times as much and are for mid to low
handicap golfers.
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 10:13:29
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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k A wrote:
> "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> news:E0YKg.398$2J4.205@newsfe05.lga...
>> here's your original reply to the OP. Show me where you have asked how
>> much they want to spend and what their handicap is? You simply offered
>> your opinion, the same as I did. I think that you've made a lot of
>> assumptions about the OP, who btw, asked for general advise, which we both
>> gave them. So wtf is your problem?
>>
>
> As I stated previously, the mere fact that the OP was interested in clubs
> that cost $180 (on-sale from $400) made me believe that he was very
> interested in them because of low cost (without having to ask).
>
> Also, the extreme cavity back nature of the clubs (compared to many of the
> other clubs recommended) made me strongly believe that he was a high
> handicapper.
>
> In any case, the OP poster asked for opinions about the Adams GT3 clubs, and
> not about other clubs that cost 4 times as much and are for mid to low
> handicap golfers.
>
>
assumptions one and all. I don't have any problem with your assumptions
or your opinions. I just want to know why you think that you're the only
one that can have them...
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 12:17:01
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
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> assumptions one and all. I don't have any problem with your assumptions or
> your opinions. I just want to know why you think that you're the only one
> that can have them..
I never claimed to be the only one with valid opinions. Certainly, many on
this forum have played a lot more different clubs than me (although I did
hit the GT2's in a store one time).
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 11:31:40
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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k A wrote:
> "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> news:X8ZKg.19$d_2.18@newsfe03.lga...
>> assumptions one and all. I don't have any problem with your assumptions or
>> your opinions. I just want to know why you think that you're the only one
>> that can have them..
>
> I never claimed to be the only one with valid opinions. Certainly, many on
> this forum have played a lot more different clubs than me (although I did
> hit the GT2's in a store one time).
>
>
and yet, I'm a "friggin idiot" because I have an opinion...I would bet
that at least 75% of those that post here, regardless of income level,
would prefer Mizuno or KZG irons to Adams irons. That is my opinion and
is why I suggested them to the OP
bye
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 12:45:19
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
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> and yet, I'm a "friggin idiot" because I have an opinion...I would bet
> that at least 75% of those that post here, regardless of income level,
> would prefer Mizuno or KZG irons to Adams irons. That is my opinion and is
> why I suggested them to the OP
> bye
Income level? I am talking about how much one wants to spend on clubs
(regardless of income level).
A lot of poor people drive Cadillacs and maybe they play Mizuno or KZG clubs
. But if someone asks me what I think about the Toyota Corolla, I am going
to assume that he is not in the ket for a car that costs as much as a
Cadillac, although obviously that would be "preferable" by at least 75% of
the people over the Corolla.
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Date: 04 Sep 2006 13:30:52
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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k A wrote:
> "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> news:fi_Kg.51$ID3.43@newsfe07.lga...
>> and yet, I'm a "friggin idiot" because I have an opinion...I would bet
>> that at least 75% of those that post here, regardless of income level,
>> would prefer Mizuno or KZG irons to Adams irons. That is my opinion and is
>> why I suggested them to the OP
>> bye
>
> Income level? I am talking about how much one wants to spend on clubs
> (regardless of income level).
>
why would I care anymore what you're talking about. You keep going
around in circles trying to make calling someone a friggin idiot for
having an opinion OK. It's not OK
PLONK
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Date: 02 Sep 2006 20:00:43
From:
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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sfb wrote:
> Momma always said if you can't say something nice, don't say anything.
>
> Seriously, you might get a response if you were more specific about
> models,shafts, etc.
>
> <wmmcgrath3@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:1157251444.543355.109790@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> > Any one have an opinion on Adams irons???
> >
I was looking for a general response but i am looking at the Gt3's not
too concerned about the shaft
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Date: 03 Sep 2006 03:08:47
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: New putter tomorrow!
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:02:22 +0000, jeffc wrote:
> "Otto" <ottondebREMove#$@^%!@*&@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:v%6Kg.41515$j8.810@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>> Your focus will sharpen for a brief period and you will swear that the
>> putter is the answer.
>>
>> After a short time, your putting performance will return to normal.
>
> Gee, I'll bet you're a load of laughs at cocktail parties.
He's right though.
I shot 83 today off a 9 hdcp, so an ok but not great round. But most of
the scoring was mostly keeping it in play and getting a lot of GIRs. I
made one fairly long putt, about 15', and didn't 3-putt. I lagged a lot of
putts pretty close. The greens were really slow today, as is usual around
here in the summer.
The putter looks a lot like my Anser but is bigger and heavier. It's still
controllable because of the insert, and it makes this muted thunk when you
putt with it. It really feels solid. But I've used the Ping for 20 years
and the new one is going to take some getting used to.
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Date: 02 Sep 2006 21:37:18
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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"k A" <nobody@nowhere.com > wrote in message
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> There are a lot of pros on the Senior Tour that play Adams (including Tom
> Watson). In general they are very good clubs.
>
> I hit the GT2 irons in a store a few years ago and thought they were
> pretty good, especially for the money. I see that the GT3 sells for about
> $180 in steel ($270 in graphite) at The Golf Warehouse, so I would say it
> is an excellent bargain, and that includes 10 irons (3-9, PW, SW, LW).
>
> If you are shopping for clubs anywhere in that price range, I don't think
> you can do better. Keep in mind that there is only one shaft stiffness, so
> I assume it probably a regular (or slightly less stiff than regular). If
> you need a stiff shaft, then look for different clubs (but if need a stiff
> shaft, you probably don't want these clubs anyway since they are designed
> for the high-handicap golfer). On these clubs, I would recommend the steel
> shaft for any male under 60, because steel generally plays a lot better
> than the cheaper graphite shafts that come with clubs in this price range.
>
> http://www.tgw.com/customer/category/product.jsp?SUBCATEGORY_ID=7024
>
I just noticed that The Golf Warehouse has customer reviews for their
products, so you should check that out.
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Date: 02 Sep 2006 23:47:29
From: SJ
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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Have a friend that plays an Adams iron, not sure of the model, and is happy.
I would consider most or all of the Adams line a "game improvement" type
club, with low centers of gravity to get the ball up quick.
"k A" <nobody@nowhere.com > wrote in message
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"k A" <nobody@nowhere.com > wrote in message
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> There are a lot of pros on the Senior Tour that play Adams (including Tom
> Watson). In general they are very good clubs.
>
> I hit the GT2 irons in a store a few years ago and thought they were
> pretty good, especially for the money. I see that the GT3 sells for about
> $180 in steel ($270 in graphite) at The Golf Warehouse, so I would say it
> is an excellent bargain, and that includes 10 irons (3-9, PW, SW, LW).
>
> If you are shopping for clubs anywhere in that price range, I don't think
> you can do better. Keep in mind that there is only one shaft stiffness, so
> I assume it probably a regular (or slightly less stiff than regular). If
> you need a stiff shaft, then look for different clubs (but if need a stiff
> shaft, you probably don't want these clubs anyway since they are designed
> for the high-handicap golfer). On these clubs, I would recommend the steel
> shaft for any male under 60, because steel generally plays a lot better
> than the cheaper graphite shafts that come with clubs in this price range.
>
> http://www.tgw.com/customer/category/product.jsp?SUBCATEGORY_ID=7024
>
I just noticed that The Golf Warehouse has customer reviews for their
products, so you should check that out.
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Date: 03 Sep 2006 13:18:42
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:47:29 -0400, in rec.sport.golf "SJ"
<skjoy@adelphia.net > wrote:
>Have a friend that plays an Adams iron, not sure of the model, and is happy.
>I would consider most or all of the Adams line a "game improvement" type
>club, with low centers of gravity to get the ball up quick.
This implies that such a design is useful for someone who wants to
improve his game, but not useful for someone who doesn't want his game
to improve.
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Date: 03 Sep 2006 14:42:14
From: SJ
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
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On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:47:29 -0400, in rec.sport.golf "SJ"
<skjoy@adelphia.net > wrote:
>Have a friend that plays an Adams iron, not sure of the model, and is
happy.
>I would consider most or all of the Adams line a "game improvement" type
>club, with low centers of gravity to get the ball up quick.
This implies that such a design is useful for someone who wants to
improve his game, but not useful for someone who doesn't want his game
to improve.
Howard, it implies nothing of the sort. And since when does any golfer not
want to improve his game. In general the Adams GT3, the clubs original
poster is referring to, is the kind of club a mid to high handicapper would
buy to "improve" his game. See the following specs.
Wide, friendly sole design is easy to hit from any lie or playing condition
and the oversize heads allow for a large, confidence-inspiring sweet spot.
Adams GT3
a.. Wide-sole design helps club glide through turf reducing "fat shots."
b.. Undercut cavity moves weight low and back providing more forgiveness.
c.. Oversized head provide confidence for more consistency
If he's considering non-higher end Adams irons, I doubt he's a single-digit
handicapper or he'd be looking at forged Mizuno's. Doe this make any sense
to you at all?
Scott
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Date: 03 Sep 2006 22:37:35
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:42:14 -0400, "SJ" <skjoy@adelphia.net > wrote:
>This implies that such a design is useful for someone who wants to
>improve his game, but not useful for someone who doesn't want his game
>to improve.
>
>Howard, it implies nothing of the sort. And since when does any golfer not
>want to improve his game.
I guess a "game improvement" club is like the descriptions of balls,
which all sound like features that we all want. I haven't seen any
club advertised as not improving one's game, so either all clubs are
"game improvement", or some clubs aren't.
>In general the Adams GT3, the clubs original
>poster is referring to, is the kind of club a mid to high handicapper would
>buy to "improve" his game. See the following specs.
That makes sense - but as you say, even Tiger wants to improve his
game.
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Date: 03 Sep 2006 18:01:21
From:
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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an advertisement of a club stating game improvement is a club that has
features that have not heretofore become an actual reality.
so the firstest with the mostest is the new kid on the block, and others
are in the wings with their wares - just waiting to debut them, then,
that innovation soon becomes - old hat.
The Adam's clubs I have seen - look good in the hybrid line. There are
quite a few of them in the used club department of large golf outlets.
for an iron to be considered qualified as an enhancement club, it most
probably takes on the complexion of an over-sized club.
>m h o
>=A0v =83e
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0u s o - until everyone comes home
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Date: 02 Sep 2006 22:50:08
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Adams Golf Irons
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Momma always said if you can't say something nice, don't say anything.
Seriously, you might get a response if you were more specific about
models,shafts, etc.
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> Any one have an opinion on Adams irons???
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