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Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:06:32
From: annika1980
Subject: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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WASHINGTON, Nov. 15 - The top American military commander in the
Middle East warned today against setting a timetable for withdrawing
United States troops from Iraq and raised the possibility that more
might be needed, if only temporarily, to help that country's security
forces and prevent the nation from tearing itself apart.
"We have every option on the table, and we will present them to the
chain of command," Gen. John Abizaid, the head of the United States
Central Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee. But, in
reks that went against recommendations by some Democrats, he opposed
setting any schedules for pulling troops out in the next several
months.
The general emphasized that any increases would be temporary and for
the purpose of hastening the transition to Iraqi control of internal
security, and at several moments in his testimony, he said the emphasis
should be on increasing the number of Iraqi troops, and sharpening
their effectiveness.
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Gee, I'll bet nobody saw that coming! Except me of course.
This is what I wrote on 10/15/06:
"Here is what will likely happen. After the elections Bush will send a
shitload of troops over to Iraq. He'll make some bullshit speech about
how new developments now demand that we have more boots on the ground.
He might even say that his Generals requested more troops. He'll
forget that they wanted them 4 years ago but Rummy knew better.
If this happens all of America should ask why the troops weren't sent
earlier and how many Americans died over there because Bush waited
until it was politically expedient to send what was needed."
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 12:24:36
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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tiggerspalewife wrote:
> What's the revelation that Abizaid wants doesn't want to withdraw/redeploy
> He's a sitting general. Do you really expect him to say, "let's pull
> out/redeploy? Of course not..he's an active general!
If you heard or read Abizaid's testimony before Congress it was obvious
how uncomfortable he was, especially when getting grilled by John
McCain. Abizaid was all over the place ... first he wanted 20,000 new
troops, but only for a short time. Then he admitted that 20,000 new
troops wouldn't make much of a dent. He didn't want to withdraw and he
didn't want to ask for lots more troops. And he didn't believe in the
status quo.
So what the Hell did he say, anyway?
Why do we need wishy-washy Generals when we have The Decider?
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 15:17:55
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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In article <1163881476.100479.222250@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com >
"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
>
>
> tiggerspalewife wrote:
> > What's the revelation that Abizaid wants doesn't want to withdraw/redeploy
> > He's a sitting general. Do you really expect him to say, "let's pull
> > out/redeploy? Of course not..he's an active general!
>
> If you heard or read Abizaid's testimony before Congress it was obvious
> how uncomfortable he was, especially when getting grilled by John
> McCain. Abizaid was all over the place ... first he wanted 20,000 new
> troops, but only for a short time. Then he admitted that 20,000 new
> troops wouldn't make much of a dent. He didn't want to withdraw and he
> didn't want to ask for lots more troops. And he didn't believe in the
> status quo.
> So what the Hell did he say, anyway?
>
> Why do we need wishy-washy Generals when we have The Decider?
I don't even know why we would question the
administration/military/pentagon axis, the Mission has been Accomplished
for years.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 07:42:31
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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In article <1163639192.754400.13910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >
"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
>
> WASHINGTON, Nov. 15 - The top American military commander in the
> Middle East warned today against setting a timetable for withdrawing
> United States troops from Iraq and raised the possibility that more
> might be needed, if only temporarily, to help that country's security
> forces and prevent the nation from tearing itself apart.
>
> "We have every option on the table, and we will present them to the
> chain of command," Gen. John Abizaid, the head of the United States
> Central Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee. But, in
> reks that went against recommendations by some Democrats, he opposed
> setting any schedules for pulling troops out in the next several
> months.
>
> The general emphasized that any increases would be temporary and for
> the purpose of hastening the transition to Iraqi control of internal
> security, and at several moments in his testimony, he said the emphasis
> should be on increasing the number of Iraqi troops, and sharpening
> their effectiveness.
>
> =====================================
>
> Gee, I'll bet nobody saw that coming! Except me of course.
> This is what I wrote on 10/15/06:
>
> "Here is what will likely happen. After the elections Bush will send a
>
> shitload of troops over to Iraq. He'll make some bullshit speech about
>
> how new developments now demand that we have more boots on the ground.
> He might even say that his Generals requested more troops. He'll
> forget that they wanted them 4 years ago but Rummy knew better.
>
> If this happens all of America should ask why the troops weren't sent
> earlier and how many Americans died over there because Bush waited
> until it was politically expedient to send what was needed."
Vocab lesson for the day:
Repubs-benchks Dems-timelines
Repubs-withdraw Dems-redeploy
What's the revelation that Abizaid wants doesn't want to withdraw/redeploy
He's a sitting general. Do you really expect him to say, "let's pull
out/redeploy? Of course not..he's an active general! Stormin'Norman
didn't think the strategy to get within 50 miles of baghdad and not go
further to finish off saddam was any good either but couldn't say so
until he retired and wrote his book. In fact, his first day saw him
saying that we really don't need more troops but we are not going to pull
any out either. That means, "let's stay the course and see what happens,"
which is totally opposite than the message the repubs should have heard
loud and clear last week. Two weeks before the election, bush even
mentioned looking into benchks for pulling out troops. That settled
out and was not heard from again.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 15:58:07
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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the Moderator wrote:
> > > You predicted it? Was that prediction before or after they said that?
>
> It was before. I also predicted they would raise taxes. Of course they
> might say they didn't raise taxes if they fail to extend the President's tax
> cuts. But, that would also mean the tax cuts never existed.
>
> Spin, spin, spin
If cutting out tax incentives and giveaways for the big oil companies
is called "raising taxes" then they should raise taxes immediately. If
removing the tax cuts for millionaires is "raising taxes" then so be it.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 10:49:52
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1163639192.754400.13910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Gee, I'll bet nobody saw that coming! Except me of course.
> This is what I wrote on 10/15/06:
>
> "Here is what will likely happen. After the elections Bush will send a
>
> shitload of troops over to Iraq. He'll make some bullshit speech about
>
> how new developments now demand that we have more boots on the ground.
> He might even say that his Generals requested more troops. He'll
> forget that they wanted them 4 years ago but Rummy knew better.
>
> If this happens all of America should ask why the troops weren't sent
> earlier and how many Americans died over there because Bush waited
> until it was politically expedient to send what was needed."
I predicted the Democrats would want to remove troops. I was right too.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 07:40:14
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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In article <oYSdnfwUDp6ABcHYnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@centurytel.net >
"the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:
>
>
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1163639192.754400.13910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Gee, I'll bet nobody saw that coming! Except me of course.
> > This is what I wrote on 10/15/06:
> >
> > "Here is what will likely happen. After the elections Bush will send a
> >
> > shitload of troops over to Iraq. He'll make some bullshit speech about
> >
> > how new developments now demand that we have more boots on the ground.
> > He might even say that his Generals requested more troops. He'll
> > forget that they wanted them 4 years ago but Rummy knew better.
> >
> > If this happens all of America should ask why the troops weren't sent
> > earlier and how many Americans died over there because Bush waited
> > until it was politically expedient to send what was needed."
>
> I predicted the Democrats would want to remove troops. I was right too.
Wow. Did you predict that all by yourself or did you need help? Since
you'd be in favor of staying, will you be signing up to go over and how
many of your family and friends will you be taking with you. I'm sure
that's your plan right?
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 23:49:09
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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In article <oYSdnfwUDp6ABcHYnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@centurytel.net >
"the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:
>
>
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1163639192.754400.13910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Gee, I'll bet nobody saw that coming! Except me of course.
> > This is what I wrote on 10/15/06:
> >
> > "Here is what will likely happen. After the elections Bush will send a
> >
> > shitload of troops over to Iraq. He'll make some bullshit speech about
> >
> > how new developments now demand that we have more boots on the ground.
> > He might even say that his Generals requested more troops. He'll
> > forget that they wanted them 4 years ago but Rummy knew better.
> >
> > If this happens all of America should ask why the troops weren't sent
> > earlier and how many Americans died over there because Bush waited
> > until it was politically expedient to send what was needed."
>
> I predicted the Democrats would want to remove troops. I was right too.
Could a man of your insight into the future be able to predict what day
it will be tomorrow?
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 11:09:43
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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In article <oYSdnfwUDp6ABcHYnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@centurytel.net >,
"the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1163639192.754400.13910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Gee, I'll bet nobody saw that coming! Except me of course.
> > This is what I wrote on 10/15/06:
> >
> > "Here is what will likely happen. After the elections Bush will send a
> >
> > shitload of troops over to Iraq. He'll make some bullshit speech about
> >
> > how new developments now demand that we have more boots on the ground.
> > He might even say that his Generals requested more troops. He'll
> > forget that they wanted them 4 years ago but Rummy knew better.
> >
> > If this happens all of America should ask why the troops weren't sent
> > earlier and how many Americans died over there because Bush waited
> > until it was politically expedient to send what was needed."
>
> I predicted the Democrats would want to remove troops. I was right too.
Wow, really?
You predicted it? Was that prediction before or after they said that?
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 16:09:29
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-20CACF.11094316112006@individual.net...
> In article <oYSdnfwUDp6ABcHYnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@centurytel.net>,
> "the Moderator" <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
> >
> > I predicted the Democrats would want to remove troops. I was right too.
>
> Wow, really?
>
> You predicted it? Was that prediction before or after they said that?
It was before. I also predicted they would raise taxes. Of course they
might say they didn't raise taxes if they fail to extend the President's tax
cuts. But, that would also mean the tax cuts never existed.
Spin, spin, spin
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 00:42:23
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:09:29 -0600, "the Moderator"
<sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:
>> > I predicted the Democrats would want to remove troops. I was right too.
>>
>> Wow, really?
>>
>> You predicted it? Was that prediction before or after they said that?
>
>It was before. I also predicted they would raise taxes. Of course they
>might say they didn't raise taxes if they fail to extend the President's tax
>cuts. But, that would also mean the tax cuts never existed.
There are Republicans who want to remove troops too. The deficit
budget is a *huge* tax.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 07:54:35
From:
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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annika1980 wrote:
> Brian Foster wrote:
> > Since you're so good with predictions, who do you like for president in 08?
>
> I think Al Gore will be re-elected.
Yeah, maybe this time he can win in his home state. BTW have you seen
him lately. The boy is as big as a locomotive.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 07:10:25
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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Brian Foster wrote:
> Since you're so good with predictions, who do you like for president in 08?
I think Al Gore will be re-elected.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 03:49:25
From: Brian Foster
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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Since you're so good with predictions, who do you like for president in 08?
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 07:22:33
From: FredK
Subject: Re: Abizaid wants more troops .... big surprise!
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"Brian Foster" <brianfoster@houston.rr.com > wrote in message
news:9dR6h.10606$mR4.3078@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Since you're so good with predictions, who do you like for president in
> 08?
>
Colon Powell
Or are you asking who will win? The generally accepted prospective choices
are all mediocre to bad, so probably not the American people.
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