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Date: 25 Apr 2007 17:27:43
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html bk
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Date: 28 Apr 2007 09:41:24
From: Tighthead
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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On Apr 28, 8:54 am, Bow Tie <ken_pitt...@yahoo.com > wrote: > I really don't have a problem with this. It plays the same for > everyone. The big hitters like Tiger, Phil and VJ will try to make the > green. Those with good short games will try a different way. One thing > is for sure. Par will be a good score and birdies will be rare as > hen's teeth. > > YMMV > > Ken > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > On Apr 25, 2:25 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com> wrote: > > > > > "Bobby Knight" <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote ... > > > >http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html > > > Okay, I take back everything I've ever said about George Bush being wrong. > > The terrorists HAVE followed us home and have taken over the USGA. > > > Randy- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - It sounds extreme, but it also depends on the design of the green and hole. If the green is a decent size, with a bailout area, and room to land it short, it is probably okay. From what I gather, this has always been a long par three, so it should be reasonable. Of course, the USGA has let me down before, and it hasn't really bothered them.
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Date: 28 Apr 2007 08:54:59
From: Bow Tie
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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I really don't have a problem with this. It plays the same for everyone. The big hitters like Tiger, Phil and VJ will try to make the green. Those with good short games will try a different way. One thing is for sure. Par will be a good score and birdies will be rare as hen's teeth. YMMV Ken ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On Apr 25, 2:25 pm, "\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusin...@all.com > wrote: > "Bobby Knight" <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote ... > > > > >http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html > > Okay, I take back everything I've ever said about George Bush being wrong. > The terrorists HAVE followed us home and have taken over the USGA. > > Randy
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Date: 27 Apr 2007 03:43:40
From: johnty
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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On 27 Apr, 05:21, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote: > > Perhaps not but I bet they didn't want the winner to finish at 18 under. > I'd bet they would have been delighted.
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Date: 27 Apr 2007 08:06:13
From: Otto
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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"johnty" <johnty1@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1177670620.785648.190240@u32g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On 27 Apr, 05:21, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > Perhaps not but I bet they didn't want the winner to finish at 18 under. > > > > I'd bet they would have been delighted. Perhaps but I can't imagine delight. The organization that is Augusta National was worried that their course had been marginalized and outdated. I think they were closer to worried or concerned than they were to delighted. Otto
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Date: 27 Apr 2007 09:07:22
From: Ezran
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:27:43 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote: >http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html > >bk Aha they've taken it to the next level, instead of a driveable par 4, its a driveable par 3!!!
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Date: 26 Apr 2007 21:22:35
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote: > http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html Cool. I love holes that are Par n.5. I know a lot of people will get rubbed the wrong way about all the bogeys it will force, but as par is not a contestant, I don't have a problem with that as long as the setup is fair. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/
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Date: 26 Apr 2007 18:07:26
From: Otto
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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"Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message news:1T41tq2dI9k7N34@redshark.goodshow.net... > Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net> wrote: > > http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html > > Cool. I love holes that are Par n.5. I know a lot of people will > get rubbed the wrong way about all the bogeys it will force, but > as par is not a contestant, I don't have a problem with that as > long as the setup is fair. That's interesting. Was Augusta fair? I thought it was. If ever there was a course management test--that was it. I love watching the Big Dogs squirm. Otto
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Date: 27 Apr 2007 02:12:45
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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Otto <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote: > > "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message > news:1T41tq2dI9k7N34@redshark.goodshow.net... >> Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net> wrote: >> > http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html >> >> Cool. I love holes that are Par n.5. I know a lot of people will >> get rubbed the wrong way about all the bogeys it will force, but >> as par is not a contestant, I don't have a problem with that as >> long as the setup is fair. > > That's interesting. > > Was Augusta fair? Maybe. But it didn't play anything like Mackenzie and Jones intended. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/
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Date: 29 Apr 2007 13:59:19
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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"Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message news:0T41ub3aIe8sN34@redshark.goodshow.net... >> >> Was Augusta fair? > > Maybe. But it didn't play anything like Mackenzie and Jones intended. That's no longer possible, unfortunately.
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Date: 30 Apr 2007 02:54:49
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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jeffc <none@none.com > wrote: > > "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message > news:0T41ub3aIe8sN34@redshark.goodshow.net... >>> >>> Was Augusta fair? >> >> Maybe. But it didn't play anything like Mackenzie and Jones intended. > > That's no longer possible, unfortunately. I don't see why. Mow the grass and take out a bunch of trees and it can be pretty damn close at the new length. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/
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Date: 27 Apr 2007 00:21:44
From: Otto
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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"Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message news:0T41ub3aIe8sN34@redshark.goodshow.net... > Maybe. But it didn't play anything like Mackenzie and Jones intended. Perhaps not but I bet they didn't want the winner to finish at 18 under. Otto
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Date: 27 Apr 2007 05:06:19
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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Otto <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote: > > "Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote in message > news:0T41ub3aIe8sN34@redshark.goodshow.net... > >> Maybe. But it didn't play anything like Mackenzie and Jones intended. > > Perhaps not but I bet they didn't want the winner to finish at 18 under. Probably not, but I don't think they had a problem with 8 under, which was pretty close to the average winning score for years. Nobody has finished at 18 under in ten years and obviously the course has changed a lot since then. The Masters is, or was, a different animal than the U.S. Open. The Masters was all about risk/reward and shot values. The Open has always been about patience and perseverance. Making the former just like the latter merely takes the variety out of major championship golf. -- Chris Bellomy C-List Charter Member http://clist.org/
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Date: 26 Apr 2007 12:55:53
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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As I'm sure the article says (but I'm not going to read it), Tiger hit 3-wood in his practice round the other day. He refused to hit driver on a par 3! "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message news:cp3v23t7bghg41iljr6i9paaejb3l4amb7@4ax.com... > http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html > > bk
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Date: 27 Apr 2007 12:23:17
From: Blagovist
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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BigPurdueFan wrote: > As I'm sure the article says (but I'm not going to read it), Tiger hit > 3-wood in his practice round the other day. He refused to hit driver on a > par 3! > > "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message > news:cp3v23t7bghg41iljr6i9paaejb3l4amb7@4ax.com... >> http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html >> >> bk I don't blame him - I'd take a 3 wood for just 288 yards. My driver would shoot the ball clean over the green before bouncing. Blago
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Date: 29 Apr 2007 13:59:58
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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"Blagovist" <blag@ovist.com > wrote in message news:4631dd2d$1_2@x-privat.org... > BigPurdueFan wrote: >> As I'm sure the article says (but I'm not going to read it), Tiger hit >> 3-wood in his practice round the other day. He refused to hit driver on >> a par 3! >> >> "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message >> news:cp3v23t7bghg41iljr6i9paaejb3l4amb7@4ax.com... >>> http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html >>> >>> bk > > I don't blame him - I'd take a 3 wood for just 288 yards. My driver would > shoot the ball clean over the green before bouncing. Yes, but the rest of the PGA are not as strong as RSGers.
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Date: 25 Apr 2007 15:25:24
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: 288 yard par three for U.S. Open.
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"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote ... > > http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_503927.html Okay, I take back everything I've ever said about George Bush being wrong. The terrorists HAVE followed us home and have taken over the USGA. Randy
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